Posted by Gringo on March 10, 1999, at 5:30:23
In reply to Re: Skeptic about antidepressants and therapy..., posted by pej on March 4, 1999, at 16:16:28
Pej in his message wrote:
>First of all, therapy is hard for anyone! That's why people resist it and why they give up so fast.
>They realize it is a painful journey and want no part of it. We all have behaviors that make our recovery difficult because we are all human beings.This seems to be your fundamental understanding of why the therapy is so difficult. No wonder, if you ask anybody, most of people would say the same. But there is an expression hidden
that causes unability to doubt it and think about different things. That frequent and yet *powerful* expression 'we are all human beings...' And it's said so and never will or can be different, we are those poor human beings and it's written in our genes
that we are like that and therefore it's usual that people *protect* themselves against facing the "painful journey". Never, no doubts? It's a generally spread belief but that doesn't necessarily mean it's right, plus when
it's supported by wisdom-patent having science unable to help people. Because depresson as well as many other diagnosis are far beyond the scope of the science and beyond of what science is able to take as 'scientifical'. We grew up in such conditions
but that doesn't mean we could not doubt it. You're obviously talking about those 'self-protection mind mechanisms' that won't let you in and won't let you face what's hidden inside.
And unordinary state of consciousness (denied by you when denied lsd as a drug for junkies on the streets) , induced either by psychedelics or by other methods is what *will* let you in, it will even
release the blocks resident within you and it *will not* give you(or your ego) too many chances to protect.Just a little thought about being undoubtful. It's shocking to see how all these people here discuss about switching from the fourth med to fifth and combining them together (and accepting all the side effects) without even a pinch of a thought 'what if..?'. Maybe that is different from what I say but your discussions are showing only this.
I do not want to convince you about my opinions here, I'd like to inform you a little bit and to tell you that it's probably a neverending circle you're rushing around and many people will in near future.An idea to think about:
Did you know that turnover of meds producing companies reach hundreds of millions of dollars every year? And did you ever hear of marketing practises and 'co-operation' between such companies and docs? No? These are the facts that common people are not to hear about, it's said in most of the internal 'Public relations' materials of such companies.
Okey, that's business, well, if a detergents producing company makes millions of profit every year... you could say. But this is about people and their mental health. Did you know that the usa are known as the country with the strongest influence of profit making in health care sector?Regards,
Gringo
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