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Posted by Kath on January 7, 2009, at 22:34:34
In reply to Re: Is it normal to almost faint after a bath? » Bobby, posted by Deneb on January 7, 2009, at 20:33:39
That's reassuring. Those phone-in nurses are usually VERY careful to the extreme, if they have any doubts at all as to a possible problem!
Good news Deneb.
PS - Can't remember if you already told your medical doctor. If not, I would, next timeyou're there.
hugs, Kath
Posted by Deneb on January 8, 2009, at 1:01:09
In reply to Re: Is it normal to almost faint after a bath? » Deneb, posted by Kath on January 7, 2009, at 22:34:34
I just realized that I have these same symptoms after exercising too vigorously. Well, I dunno if vigorous is the word, but after some forms of exercise I lose my vision, my hearing, throw up and stuff.
This has happened all my life, and is a huge reason why I don't like sports. I remember vomiting all the time during gym class, even as a little girl.
It still happens today. When I run for the bus I get dizzy. When I walk fast through the snow I get dizzy. I lose some vision, and hearing and feel nauseous and sometimes throw up.
Is this normal?
Posted by Deneb on January 8, 2009, at 1:20:38
In reply to Re: Is it normal to almost faint after exercise?, posted by Deneb on January 8, 2009, at 1:01:09
Hmmm...ok, this is what happens to me when I exercise hard in a big burst.
First I'm breathing really hard and fast, then I start feeling nauseous. When I stop exercising my heart beats really slowly and my breating slows way down. I lose my vision and hearing and get very nauseous. I am like this for a while. It takes a long time to recover.
This has happened several times after running for the bus. Once I even threw up on the bus.
Posted by Deneb on January 8, 2009, at 2:01:10
In reply to Re: Is it normal to almost faint after exercise?, posted by Deneb on January 8, 2009, at 1:01:09
I'm going to do an experiment on myself.
I'm going to run really fast on the treadmill tomorrow and see if I get faint. Then I can also record what happens if I start feeling faint.
Posted by Larry Hoover on January 8, 2009, at 12:46:35
In reply to Re: Is it normal to almost faint after exercise?, posted by Deneb on January 8, 2009, at 1:01:09
> Is this normal?
No. No it is not. In fact, it's a "red-flag" symptom, when associated with syncope (medical term for a faint), or pre-syncope, when all but total loss of consciousness occurs.
See: http://emedicine.medscape.com/article/811669-overview
I don't mean to frighten you, but you may have a heart problem. Please do not try to bring one on by over-exerting. What you need is a full medical work-up.
If it was just the bath thing, I'd tell you to take one in cooler water. The water you're using is too hot for you, or you stay immersed too long, or both. That could be just a quirk, but the exertional onset is not.
Take care of you, Deneb.
Lar
Posted by 10derHeart on January 8, 2009, at 14:29:52
In reply to Re: Is it normal to almost faint after exercise? » Deneb, posted by Larry Hoover on January 8, 2009, at 12:46:35
...and was just going to post the very same thing he did.
It's better to rule things out, or find out what's you're dealing with. Medicine has many fine and effective tools, you know.
Please don't try to trigger an episode. I don't mean to scare you either, but we all are forced to deal in the realities of life, and it is a real possibility this can be dangerous and life-threatening.
While you wait to see your doc, remember coping skills and all that, okay?
It could be nothing.
It could be something.
You don't know. We don't know. Medicine can find out, though.
Right now, it's like an investigation and you and the doctor (and I hope he refers you to a cardiologist) are the "team" trying to pin down the answer to a mystery.
Keep us posted. We care about you and there are some experts on worry and anxiety here, as well, should that be needed.
PLease do make that call.
Posted by Deneb on January 8, 2009, at 14:40:35
In reply to Re: Is it normal to almost faint after exercise? » Deneb, posted by Larry Hoover on January 8, 2009, at 12:46:35
I asked some people on chat about whether it is normal and they said it's no big deal. I'm just over exerting myself, probably because I'm out of shape.
They said it's possible for a child to be out of shape too. So my throwing up as a kid was normal too. I remember I absolutely hated P.E. I would get nauseous like every day and throw up like a couple of times a week. The P.E. teacher was not sympathetic.
For my searches online, I've found that lots of people throw up after exercise.
Anyways, I asked my pdoc about the throwing up after exercise and she wasn't concerned.
Walking is fine though. I can walk OK, without getting sick. Sometimes I feel lightheaded after I walk, but I don't get sick or anything.
Anyways, I've gotten tests before, the time my doctor was concerned because my blood pressure shot up and was different on either arm. I think I got some kind of ultrasound. I also wore this monitor thing for 24 hours or something. It must have been normal. I think they only found one small thing, but obviously it wasn't of concern.
I will skip the running today though, on second thought, I'd rather not puke. LOL
Posted by Larry Hoover on January 8, 2009, at 17:04:38
In reply to Re: Is it normal to almost faint after exercise? » Larry Hoover, posted by Deneb on January 8, 2009, at 14:40:35
Please, I cannot agree that because other people have similar symptoms that you can therefore conclude they are benign.
You have at least two "red-flag" symptoms, according to the link I earlier provided.
"Clinicians should specifically inquire as to red flag symptoms, such as exertional onset, chest pain, dyspnea, low back pain, palpitations, severe headache, focal neurologic deficits, diplopia, ataxia, or dysarthria prior to the syncopal event."
Exertional onset may be benign if it happens once in a blue moon, but you have had it many times. Also, you mentioned loss of hearing, which is *not* commonly associated with syncope. It falls into the "focal neurologic deficit" category. I have no idea if you others of these high concern symptoms.
Lar
Posted by Larry Hoover on January 8, 2009, at 17:09:26
In reply to Re: Is it normal to almost faint after exercise? » Larry Hoover, posted by Deneb on January 8, 2009, at 14:40:35
I forgot to say that if you wore a holter monitor but it didn't catch an incident of syncope, then you can't conclude that there is nothing of importance to discover. There must have been something that made them monitor you. It's not done for no reason.
Lar
Posted by Deneb on January 8, 2009, at 17:59:32
In reply to Re: Is it normal to almost faint after exercise? » Deneb, posted by Larry Hoover on January 8, 2009, at 17:09:26
I seriously doubt anything is wrong, I am still alive. I've been this way for 27 years probably and I'm still alive.
Everyone seems worried now so I'll go to doc.
Maybe I'll just ask if I'm normal.
Once in a while I get pains in my chest, but they are not severe. I wonder if they are muscle spasms in my ribs or something. I will ask about that. I did some searching with Google and it is very likely they are psychosomatic.
It's weird that I freak out over cancer fears, but this heart stuff doesn't make me scared, probably because I've lived with not being able to exercise hard all my life.
Not dead yet! LOL
Posted by Bobby on January 8, 2009, at 21:00:19
In reply to Re: Is it normal to almost faint after exercise?, posted by Deneb on January 8, 2009, at 17:59:32
1. You ask for advice and people respond. It's rare that I can get wifey to give any advice--she does it all day.She actually said that the visual thing could be an early sign of the onset of MS and that you need to see a neurologist but didn't want to alarm you. And Larry came out of social hibernation to offer is input--you know that's rare too right? Like the president of Wikipedia answering personally.
2. After reading the advice--you dismiss it as psychosomatic---that's after you have feared every disease that you've Googled. Suddenly--something real comes down the pipe and you brush it off as if it never happened.
3. One reason that you give is that you talked with some folks on chat( versus say--a Doctor) and they didn't think much of it. Maybe they were just trying to calm you down in light of past panic--I don't know. there are a lot of highly intelligent people on Babble--but they are not Specialists in the the field(as far as I know) and neither is your pdoc.you wouldn't go to a Bakery to get your meats--or go to the butcher for a doughnut---would you?
4.If you think it is all in your mind--please realize that the mind has the power to heal--as well as make you sick. Either way--it needs to be addressed by a professional.
5. I think I read where you stood out in sub-freezing temperatures to buy a Xbox360 ---for God knows how much money. so why would it be so difficult to spend a little time and money to see a Dr. that can rule out any major illness---they don't usually clear up on their on--and if you catch something early---you just might save a lot of money--and your life.
6. I'm only saying this because I happen to care--as do many many posters here. sometimes I have to get tough with my kids--because I love them. I know you're not my kid---but I do care. So please see a doctor--and don't find some reason to chicken out at the last minute or give an excuse as to why you should forget it--I'm not buying into that deal. You've come a long way Deneb---I'd like to see you go farther.
Posted by Deneb on January 8, 2009, at 21:42:53
In reply to O.K. Deneb--I'm going to break it down for you, posted by Bobby on January 8, 2009, at 21:00:19
I know you care Bobby. Thanks for caring. You too Larry. Thanks for your replies.
Sorry about brushing it off and stuff. I guess there is no harm in ruling stuff out. I don't even need to spend any money to see a doctor in Canada.
I made an appointment for Weds. I just feel so silly going to the doctor when I haven't have symptoms in a while. I just think it would be better if I induced the symptoms in myself to justify going to the doctor. I know, stupid idea.
((((((((((everyone)))))))))))
Posted by Deneb on January 8, 2009, at 23:47:07
In reply to Re: O.K. Deneb--I'm going to break it down for you, posted by Deneb on January 8, 2009, at 21:42:53
I am fat. I have a belly. I don't want the doctor to see my belly if she needs to listen to my heart.
I'm going to exercise tons and eat as little as possible to lose weight before my appointment. No running though, I'll just walk at an incline for a couple of hours a day.
I seriously think I'm just out of shape....but I will still go.
Posted by Bobby on January 9, 2009, at 8:49:03
In reply to Re: O.K. Deneb--I'm going to break it down for you, posted by Deneb on January 8, 2009, at 23:47:07
There you go---making excuses (I don't want the dr to see my belly). It's not going to work this time--sorry. Believe me---the Dr has seen MUCH worse---be glad you don't have to have a prostrate checked. I thought --at least---you'd wait a few day before looking for reasons not to go.Deneb--you're NOT going there to impress your doctor. It's not a date. Stop stalling---"just do it!"
Posted by Phillipa on January 9, 2009, at 13:22:18
In reply to Re: O.K. Deneb--I'm going to break it down for you, posted by Deneb on January 8, 2009, at 23:47:07
Deneb just saw this haven't been here but don't take it lightly. Are you eating? As noticed didn't read you have food journal on health. Phillipa
Posted by Deneb on January 9, 2009, at 14:45:19
In reply to Re: O.K. Deneb--I'm going to break it down for you » Deneb, posted by Phillipa on January 9, 2009, at 13:22:18
I really think I'm OK. I just went on treadmill at an incline at 3mph and I was fine. I couldn't do 2 hours though, just 30 mins, but I was fine afterwards too.
I think maybe the times I almost fainted I had low blood sugar. I made sure to eat some soup before walking today.
I will ask about this. I am guessing my doctor will just tell me to make sure I eat before exercising.
Don't worry, I will still go to the doctor. Might be good to find out cause, even if it is just low blood sugar.
Posted by Kath on January 9, 2009, at 21:50:41
In reply to Re: O.K. Deneb--I'm going to break it down for you, posted by Deneb on January 9, 2009, at 14:45:19
I totally agree with Bobby.
If it's only blood sugar, so much the better.
Let us know how it goes.
One thing I've learned over the years is this:
We don't need to figure everything out! Especially if we're going to someone who gets paid money to do it for us! (Whether we pay in person, or they get paid via the government, through our taxes)
:-) Kath
Posted by Deneb on January 10, 2009, at 20:02:14
In reply to Glad you've committed to going to doc » Deneb, posted by Kath on January 9, 2009, at 21:50:41
I'm pretty sure what I experienced was normal. I think it's hypotension after exercise.
My vision went a bit after I exercised today. I sat down and cooled off and when I got up my vision went away a bit. I think I am out of shape so my heart rate goes too high. Felt a bit nauseous after exercising today. I think if I ran I would still throw up.
Anyways, will see what causes this. Meanwhile I am really happy I'm exercising. I'm going to get in shape.
Posted by kath on January 11, 2009, at 11:18:35
In reply to Re: Glad you've committed to going to doc, posted by Deneb on January 10, 2009, at 20:02:14
It's great that you're exercising. I wish I could get myself to do something active.
K
Posted by Phillipa on January 11, 2009, at 17:59:22
In reply to Re: Glad you've committed to going to doc » Deneb, posted by kath on January 11, 2009, at 11:18:35
Kath oh dear you're not feeling well still? Love Jan
Posted by kath on January 11, 2009, at 19:19:17
In reply to Re: Glad you've committed to going to doc » kath, posted by Phillipa on January 11, 2009, at 17:59:22
> Kath oh dear you're not feeling well still? Love Jan
~ ~ Have a BIG tendency to be a couch-potato in cold weather. Well, any time for that matter.
Jan - Do you still ride your bike weather permitting? (Did you this past Fall?)
What type of exercise do you do Deneb?
Kath
Posted by Phillipa on January 11, 2009, at 20:49:11
In reply to Exercise, posted by kath on January 11, 2009, at 19:19:17
Ride six miles nightly. Fell last night as was getting brain zaps from cutting luvox so went back up. Love Phillipa
Posted by Deneb on January 14, 2009, at 18:44:53
In reply to Re: Exercise » kath, posted by Phillipa on January 11, 2009, at 20:49:11
Hello, just went to doctor, and I'm OK. I just have to avoid exercising too strenuously. I don't have low blood pressure either. I'm going to try to get into shape.
I found out I have eczema and got some ointment for it.
Also got blood taken. My doctor seemed concerned about diabetes.
Posted by Kath on January 14, 2009, at 19:58:14
In reply to Re: I'm OK, posted by Deneb on January 14, 2009, at 18:44:53
Good you're taking care of yourself Deneb. I always think it's good to get bloodwork done to find out what's what.
Hugs, Kath
Posted by Deneb on January 14, 2009, at 22:01:01
In reply to Re: I'm OK » Deneb, posted by Kath on January 14, 2009, at 19:58:14
I just read some articles about this recent study that showed the risk of sudden death from heart problems is doubled in people taking antipsychotics.
How concerned should I be?
It seems like 3 people out of 1000 die suddenly.
I feel my heart beating too fast now, I'm sure I'm just getting paranoid. :/
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