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Posted by Jay_Bravest_Face on August 4, 2007, at 8:55:46
Seriously....I don't mean sexual orientation here. I mean, I don't like many of the so-called "typical man" things...you know like beer, and sports...all of that stuff. But, okay, (I will reveal..lol), I happen to have some hair on my chest, and I keep hearing and reading women complain about that stuff. Look at all of the male 'waxing' stuff out there! You'd think a man with a hair on his body was, like, evil..heresy, etc..heh
Even thinning hair. I just shave my head..I've given up..lol.
M AYBE (I am really putting some hopeful bets on this!..hahaa) there are some women who don't really care about the 'prettiness' of men (I mean...I understand and firmly believe in good grooming and cleanliness..but this goes wayyy beyond that.) I still go by the motto "Men and Women are from Earth : Deal With It!"..lol. Sometimes I feel like reminding people, we ALL have similar bodily functions, and one's poop doesn't smell better then another's! (Oh, deep philosophy there.:) And...another thing..lol...when out on a date, and I am swallowing a small piece of salad, and she can maybe hear a VERY tiny 'gulp', or I am accidentally sneezing (politely, of course...and because I have allergies), or order meat, does not make me the spawn of Satan!..hah. Oh man...I could go on. So ladies...if you are looking for another woman, great...go for it! (And yes I know there is absolutely nothing wrong with that. ;) It would save a lot of us guys much hassle. Jay :-)
Posted by karen_kay on August 4, 2007, at 9:21:52
In reply to What women want in men..is another woman!lol, posted by Jay_Bravest_Face on August 4, 2007, at 8:55:46
hey jay! long time no speak. i've got a few words of nonwisdom, coming from someone who knows nothing.
wolverine has chesthair. i lovie wolverine. therefore i must indeed love chesthair. mister kk has a few wirey ones, does that count? but, he's barely legal and may grow more as he gets older. i think it just depends on the individual, you know? chest hair doesn't work on everyone. i wouldn't rule someone out, based on chesthair. and i wouldn't seek someone out based on it either.
about sneezes: i have issues with snot. honestly. that's one thing that turns my stomach. i can handle just about anything but snot. not even my own duckie's.
about thinning hair. i have a thing for thinning hair.
and about meat: love meat. love meat. love meat. it's my number one favorite food group. i live on meat and meat alone.
jay dear, you need to fidn the woman who's right for you and only you dear. and most women (i think) don't base their criteria on whether or not their date/lover/ect has chest hair, orders meat, drinks beer, likes sports, or any thing like that. i think the women here are jsut talking sweetie, much like women do. i'm sure you have certain preferences, right? i know i prefer brunettes, as opposed to blondes. but, i've recently found that i'd do a few blondes. (victoria beckham, to name jsut one. lindsay lohan could call me as well. oh, and con, you're pretty cute yourself. you can call me, if you like. i thik texas chick said she is blonde as well. see, i'm willing to compromise. i do't care for blondes, but there are a few i'd break my rule for :)
take care fo yourself jay. you'll fidn her. it just takes patience. and lots of blondes to get you through until you find the perfect brunettte.
best to you,
kk
Posted by Chinchilla1 on August 4, 2007, at 12:54:19
In reply to What women want in men..is another woman!lol, posted by Jay_Bravest_Face on August 4, 2007, at 8:55:46
I happen to love chest hair on a man. Very masculine. :-)
Posted by Phillipa on August 4, 2007, at 13:03:49
In reply to Re: What women want in men..is another woman!lol, posted by Chinchilla1 on August 4, 2007, at 12:54:19
Me too not back hair though. Love Phillipa
Posted by caraher on August 4, 2007, at 13:04:38
In reply to chest hair, manners, MEAT!!!!, posted by karen_kay on August 4, 2007, at 9:21:52
> i'm sure you have certain preferences, right? i know i prefer brunettes, as opposed to blondes. but, i've recently found that i'd do a few blondes. (victoria beckham, to name jsut one. lindsay lohan could call me as well...I'm pretty sure neither is a "natural" blonde... I don't know whether or how that figures into your preferences, I just thought I'd paste a little asterisk in there as one who shares your preference for dark hair and always feels a very, very mild disappointment when I see or hear about someone lightening their hair color.
How many of us actually wind up with someone who matches all our physical preferences anyway? I "prefer" brunettes and married a redhead... there are just so many different ways to be attractive, it's hard for me to imagine that there's only one or a small number of physical "types" one could be happy with!
Posted by Jai Narayan on August 4, 2007, at 14:38:47
In reply to Re: What women want in men..is another woman!lol, posted by Chinchilla1 on August 4, 2007, at 12:54:19
> I happen to love chest hair on a man. Very masculine. :-)
I like it on a woman :)
Jai
Posted by confuzyq on August 4, 2007, at 15:49:35
In reply to What women want in men..is another woman!lol, posted by Jay_Bravest_Face on August 4, 2007, at 8:55:46
...God grant me the strength not to say...
Er, what was that I was saying??? Wow, this prayer stuff must actually work (and God must endorse the Babble civility guidelines!)! Thank you God! :)
Posted by Dinah on August 4, 2007, at 16:23:51
In reply to What women want in men..is another woman!lol, posted by Jay_Bravest_Face on August 4, 2007, at 8:55:46
You think that's bad.
Try getting a date as a woman growing her leg hair, or pit hair.
Women tend to have wildly different views on body hair. Burt Reynolds looked like a woolly bear, and he didn't seem to have any trouble with women.
There is no one definition for what a woman is, any more than there is one definition on what a man is.
You know, there are lots of places where people will give you mock job interviews and give you tips to better help you get a job. Perhaps there are (or should be) places that do the same for dates, since dates aren't really that different than job interviews.
I'm not, of course, saying that you need one. I've never been on a date with you, and you may be perfection itself in the dating area. Moreover, the definition of perfection varies widely from person to person. But you've been mentioning your difficulties in the area a lot, and maybe some coaching would be useful for you.
(I'd love to get coaching in interpersonal relations. My therapist can't really help me with conversational rhythms, or things like that.)
For myself, I'm strongly in favor of getting to know people in nondating situations and developing a dating relationship from a friendship. But I'm probably a bit naive.
Posted by karen_kay on August 4, 2007, at 19:31:11
In reply to Re: What women want in men..is another woman!lol, posted by Jai Narayan on August 4, 2007, at 14:38:47
chest hair, i mean.
call me!
maybe you're even blonde, lovely ladie? :)
Posted by Jai Narayan on August 4, 2007, at 21:39:30
In reply to i've got that!!!! » Jai Narayan, posted by karen_kay on August 4, 2007, at 19:31:11
> chest hair, i mean.
>
> call me!
>
> maybe you're even blonde, lovely ladie? :)my hair is raven midnight. I am blue eyed and sassy.
as I am sure you know.
Jai
Posted by karen_kay on August 5, 2007, at 7:38:09
In reply to Re: chest hair, manners, MEAT!!!!, posted by caraher on August 4, 2007, at 13:04:38
neither of those listed are actual, natural (if you say those 2 words fast enough, together, they rhyme!) blondes. but, in women, i do have preferences. dark hair. firm rears. dense minds need not apply (i'm dense enough myself, thank you!).
for the mens, i'm not too picky. i'd be willing ot change my mind about any preference i have depending on the individual. that's my own personality trait: the ability to change my mind and forget everythign i once thought i liked with the drop of a hat....
Posted by Meri-Tuuli on August 5, 2007, at 8:30:41
In reply to What women want in men..is another woman!lol, posted by Jay_Bravest_Face on August 4, 2007, at 8:55:46
Hehehe, well this prettiness-male grooming angst is just a fraction of what a normal woman has to go through each day, I think. Unless you happen to be Jessica Alba, and even then....I think she used to have anorexia.
>You'd think a man with a hair on his body was, like, evil..heresy, etc..heh
Yeah but what would you think if your (female) date turned up with lush leg hair or a nice growth of armpit hair??? Body hair on women is just as 'evil' as you think women think about male hair, if not more so.
> MAYBE (I am really putting some hopeful bets on this!..hahaa) there are some women who don't really care about the 'prettiness' of men
Well, I'm really hoping there are some men out there that don't care about the prettiness of their female dates......hmmm, sadly I think this isn't the case.
So. If you're willing to have a date with a un-pretty chick with unshaved leg or armpit hair......I wouldn't complain :o) And then think how much time and effort it takes the average woman to keep herself body hair-free and 'groomed'....do we complain? hehehehe.
Posted by Meri-Tuuli on August 5, 2007, at 8:41:17
In reply to Re: What women want in men..is another woman!lol » Jay_Bravest_Face, posted by Dinah on August 4, 2007, at 16:23:51
Hello
> For myself, I'm strongly in favor of getting to know people in nondating situations and developing a dating relationship from a friendship. But I'm probably a bit naive.
I agree with you. You know, we don't tend to 'date' so much here in Europe like you folks do in the States. I mean, I've only ever had experiences in the UK and Finland, but we're a pretty reserved lot to be honest. I can't explain it. But we're much less brazen. We would never say that we're dating someone, for instance. We're seeing someone, yes, but that could mean anything. Or going out with someone. I don't know. Its more informal I think over here I think anyway. We must obviously do dates, but I don't think we really call them that. Its more regimented somehow in the US.
Posted by LlurpsieNoodle on August 6, 2007, at 19:35:12
In reply to Re: What women want in men..is another woman!lol, posted by Meri-Tuuli on August 5, 2007, at 8:41:17
I only had 3 proper "dates" in my whole life*
I also believe that out of kind friendship love can sprout.
-Ll
*2 of the dates ended up in the ER**
**one for 20 shots of vodka (I disappointed him)***
***the other ended up being manic and homocidal and he got a nice syringe of Ativan and a chaser of haldol. Hope his pillow was snuggly. He disappointed ME. but at least he didn't kill me...****grin
Posted by karen_kay on August 6, 2007, at 22:04:29
In reply to Re: What women want in men..is another woman!lol » Meri-Tuuli, posted by LlurpsieNoodle on August 6, 2007, at 19:35:12
it really did (don't worry, i've got a seperate tab with myspace opened currently, so i'm feeding my addictin while trying to remember someone's last name).
oh, back to my story (and maybe i'll look up that murder's myspace page. i wonder if they allow prisoner's to have a myspace page. gosh, this thing is fan f*ck in tastic (see mister bob you can't blcok me. i did it right (gosh, i hope anyway))
anyway, really back to my story, about murders... i 'dated' (ha, you can hear me laughing when i refer to it as dating. i don't think we were ver out in public together unless i gave him a ride to work or gave him a ride to get beer or gavve him a ride somewhere....) a guy who ended up being on america's most wanted. from time to time, i see that episode on reruns and i laugh thinking, 'i should make a t-shirt saying 'putting out saved my life'
perhaps being crazy scared him from attempting to murder me? i was rather wild in my youth (i still am rather wild, but imagine me at 19!!!!). it turned out he'd killed someone before he met me and another while we were seeing eachother.
so, standign in the rain yelling swear words to a murderer through his bedroom window may be the best way to protect yourself? perhaps i should teach a course?
Posted by Sigismund on August 9, 2007, at 23:11:50
In reply to putting out saved my life!!! obvious triggers » LlurpsieNoodle, posted by karen_kay on August 6, 2007, at 22:04:29
Yes.
Include me in.
Posted by Kath on August 14, 2007, at 13:04:06
In reply to What women want in men..is another woman!lol, posted by Jay_Bravest_Face on August 4, 2007, at 8:55:46
Well, my hubby is a furry as a bear (almost) & I don't particularly like it, but the hair isn't who HE IS!!
I think that if women discount a man because of his looks, or anything you mentioned, I think that man is LUCKY, FORTUNATE, ETCETERA..... Who would want to be bothered with someone that shallow anyway?????
I still think the best way to meet someone is to join groups or volunteer with groups about whatever you're interested in. That way you're meeting people you already have something important in common with. That way, also, you can broaden your 'friend base' & that broadens the chances of meeting new people.
My hubby & I were friends first of all & I like that we have that as a solid base for our relationship. We've been married 14 years now (just reminded me that once again, we forgot our anniversay: July 24!!!) It must be a good marriage with all the sh*t that's happened over the last 9 years with my son...if anything would have caused enough stress to dismantle a relationship THAT would have!
Hugs to ya & good luck.
Kath
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