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f*ck that!

Posted by karen_kay on April 10, 2007, at 6:44:44

In reply to once upon a time, I never undestood why..., posted by Jai Narayan on April 9, 2007, at 22:41:31

you said: who cares anyway...

I DO!!!!!

jai,

have the birds come out to play?
are you at home,
sipping your wine
and watching them dine
upon the feed
you left for them
so they can poop on your car
and deck
and house
and hair
on your way to work?


why so blue sounding? i have a tooth in the furthest corner of my mouth that aches just for you.

some may say it's a wisdom tooth, but i highly doubt that. wisdom is not my strongest suit!

how loud do i have to scream it?

I MISS YOU JAI!!!!!!
I MISS YOU JAI!!!!!!
I MISS YOU JAI!!!!!!
I MISS YOU JAI!!!!!!
I MISS YOU JAI!!!!!!

(with conditions of course, as long as you're not flirting with kid :)

 

Re: f*ck that! » karen_kay

Posted by Phillipa on April 10, 2007, at 12:30:13

In reply to f*ck that!, posted by karen_kay on April 10, 2007, at 6:44:44

Wow kk you're an early riser!!!! Are you in the US? Love Phillipa

 

Re: once upon a time, I never undestood why... » Jai Narayan

Posted by Gabbi-2 on April 10, 2007, at 17:21:48

In reply to once upon a time, I never undestood why..., posted by Jai Narayan on April 9, 2007, at 22:41:31

Ah
Jai

I think about you often, and am always happy to see your name here. I'm so sorry I dropped the ball on our communications, I was really enjoying them. when I get stressed or depressed.. I do that, I know how it appears, and yet I can't seem to change it.
I'm sorry if it added to your feeling of not being cared about.

 

Re: once upon a time, I never undestood why... » Jai Narayan

Posted by Larry Hoover on April 11, 2007, at 8:15:41

In reply to once upon a time, I never undestood why..., posted by Jai Narayan on April 9, 2007, at 22:41:31

> I have become infrequent. but who cares anyway...
> Jai

Hmmmm.

It would be impossible to answer that if you didn't post, wouldn't it?

It's far easier to have a relationship if the parties to it each contribute, n'est-ce pas?

And look at the lurkers who have come out of the woodwork in response! James K! Tabs and Gabs! A veritable reunion.

Lar

 

you know what? » Larry Hoover

Posted by karen_kay on April 11, 2007, at 14:42:53

In reply to Re: once upon a time, I never undestood why... » Jai Narayan, posted by Larry Hoover on April 11, 2007, at 8:15:41

either you're a virgo (and no offense to any virgos out there but i dated one for 7 years and have come to have some serious issues with them)... acutally lar, tell me, as i'm very curious, are you in fact a virgo?

but, back to what i was saying.... never f*cking mind.

muttering under breath.... analyst, researcher, critic..... damn virgos.

is ti impossible to support someone without asking a question? is it so impossible to think that maybe someone needs support and perhaps not a 'talking down to' when they say they post rather infrequently and feel that no one cares?

shew that was quite a relief,

kk

and jai my sweet, i'm so very sorry to interupt your post with this. i'm pissed and just have to say something about it! i do feel bad, as this is your thread and shouldn't be interrupted with my silly pouts or outbursts or whatever you want to call this, but i needed to get that out. and i do want you to know you are missed when you don't post. sorry sorry sorry darling.

 

Re: you know what? » karen_kay

Posted by Larry Hoover on April 11, 2007, at 16:56:01

In reply to you know what? » Larry Hoover, posted by karen_kay on April 11, 2007, at 14:42:53

> either you're a virgo (and no offense to any virgos out there but i dated one for 7 years and have come to have some serious issues with them)... acutally lar, tell me, as i'm very curious, are you in fact a virgo?

No.

And I've got issues with closing remarks such as 'but who cares anyway.' I was around far too much of that stuff when I grew up. I feel manipulated when I hear/read something like that, like the opportunity to simply and spontaneously be supportive or empathetic has been stolen away, before I even had a chance to respond. I did try to be supportive, coming from where I am now. It may be my baggage, but there you have it.

Lar

 

Re: you know what? » Larry Hoover

Posted by karen_kay on April 11, 2007, at 17:06:22

In reply to Re: you know what? » karen_kay, posted by Larry Hoover on April 11, 2007, at 16:56:01

well, perhaps jai was jsut saying that she honestly feels that no one cares that she hasn't posted in a while.

is she not allowed to say so? how would that be manupilative towards you? what's that got to do with you?

geez, and i thought i was narcisistic!

 

Actually.....

Posted by kid47 on April 11, 2007, at 17:32:12

In reply to Re: you know what? » Larry Hoover, posted by karen_kay on April 11, 2007, at 17:06:22

KK,the truth of the matter is...It's all about me...moi...myself.....I.
Got that sugar...and don't you forget it.!!!...OK....OK....everybody knows it's all about you. Sorry. I lost my mind for a brief moment...better a brief moment than the 3 years when I lost it last time. Just feeling a tad anxious. Can I have one of your Klonopin pretty please. I don't do drama very well. You on the other hand should win an Oscar. ;) Good to see ya round these parts....Ms KKOG. That should start em wondering.

Now for the matter at hand.

Jai. Don't be ridiculous (I'm writing that with a heavy Italian accent)
You have been a valued member of these here Crazy boards for a very long time. I don't post much anymore, but..... Whenever you call me I'll be there....Whenever you need me I'll be there...I'll be around. Catchy tune huh. This should drive KK over the edge.(She's very jealous ya know)

Peace and Happiness
kid

 

Re: you know what? » karen_kay

Posted by Gabbi-2 on April 11, 2007, at 18:12:52

In reply to Re: you know what? » Larry Hoover, posted by karen_kay on April 11, 2007, at 17:06:22

And another viewpoint is..

I've closed with remarks like that when I'm feeling self conscious about posting something I feel is self indulgent.
I'll put something like "But I guess it doesn't matter does it?" as a way of acknowledging that when, I dont' seem to have the will power to just not post.. So really it's all about *ME*

Nah, I won't even try to compete with that last part.

 

Re: you know what?

Posted by Larry Hoover on April 11, 2007, at 18:31:13

In reply to Re: you know what? » karen_kay, posted by Gabbi-2 on April 11, 2007, at 18:12:52

> I'll put something like "But I guess it doesn't matter does it?"

She didn't say, "but I don't care anyway." IMHO, the difference is more than trivial.

 

Re: you know what?

Posted by Declan on April 11, 2007, at 18:35:37

In reply to Re: you know what?, posted by Larry Hoover on April 11, 2007, at 18:31:13

This has a very interesting subtext (doesn't it? I'd hate to say the wrong thing), about which I am unable to say anything at all.

 

too true (and jai's eggs) » Declan

Posted by karen_kay on April 11, 2007, at 19:37:01

In reply to Re: you know what?, posted by Declan on April 11, 2007, at 18:35:37

about the subtext.

and without trying to turn this into me again (yes, i know i joke about doing that, but i really do appreciate jai's contributions and i hate that she's hurting. i hate even more to see kid flirting with ehr though), i dislike that somethign as innocent as 'i'm hurting' is being somehow misconstrued (wowsa, did i spell that right? or is there a screw i there somewhere? please tell me there is. i really need one right now) into a manipulation of sorts.

again jai, sorry darling, you knew i was a drama queen when i proposed to you ;) (imagine me pointing my finger in your face and everything! and you never did tell me about those birds either jai. are they pooping yet on yoru car or what? had a nice, albeit cheap, cherry wine the other night. made me think of you, me mister bob and those old, wild times we used to share, before my old, 'old man' caught on to my ways. those were the days. you sure do make the best eggs, even though i despise eggs. is it wrong to eat eggs and watch birds at teh same time? not if you're naked, i guess. i've missed you a whole bunch jai. do tell about those birds dear.)

 

DO NOT POST TO ME LARRY HOOVER

Posted by Gabbi-2 on April 11, 2007, at 20:06:31

In reply to Re: you know what?, posted by Larry Hoover on April 11, 2007, at 18:31:13

Or in response to my posts. This is the second reminder and is set in stone.

 

Re: f*ck that! » Phillipa

Posted by karen_kay on April 11, 2007, at 22:39:10

In reply to Re: f*ck that! » karen_kay, posted by Phillipa on April 10, 2007, at 12:30:13

yes phillipa dear, i am in the usa.

 

I adore you

Posted by Jai Narayan on April 11, 2007, at 23:23:59

In reply to Re: f*ck that! » Phillipa, posted by karen_kay on April 11, 2007, at 22:39:10

yes my love knows no bounds. I love you so much. and here comes a bigggggggg Kisssssssss
Jai

 

backatcha... » Jai Narayan

Posted by karen_kay on April 12, 2007, at 6:47:14

In reply to I adore you, posted by Jai Narayan on April 11, 2007, at 23:23:59

but, i can be a sloppy kissser (or is it drunk? i never can remember. aren't they the same thing anyway?)

what are your weekend plans? do they involve liquor? (please say yes. please say yes. please say yes.) i have a feeling mine are going to.

jai, sweet woman, just what do you do for anxiety? like the kind that not only makes you wnat to break your own arm, but others' as well? any tips? (if you say read a magazine, i may be tempted to break your arm darling!)

we have about 5,324 bird houses off our back deck. and i fill them often enough to make the birds fight for food (oh, i'm mean, go ahead and say it). but what a show these birds put on. i see what you get out of the birds. they have a whoel lot of fight in them. especially the small one, they tend to be scrappy and can run fast too! but, most times i get too distracted with workign in the garden i miss the show entirely. (story of my life, eh? bend over to scratch my butt and miss the shooting star...)

maybe i'll feed the birds this weekend and watch them fight. i think you've inspired me dear. a cruel sort of inspiration, but inspiration no less. and those birds sure will be happy.

tkae care of yourself. and i hope you're havign lovely weather. it's rainy here (still! whatever did i do wrong to deserve this weather? it's been horrible for what seems like forever and it's just killing my mood) but spring is coming soon.

holding out for the bird poop on my car (which i have had some already, but not at my house) and that smell of spring again,

kk

 

Re: you know what? » Larry Hoover

Posted by KayeBaby on April 13, 2007, at 0:08:42

In reply to Re: you know what?, posted by Larry Hoover on April 11, 2007, at 18:31:13

> > I'll put something like "But I guess it doesn't matter does it?"
>
> She didn't say, "but I don't care anyway." IMHO, the difference is more than trivial.

Oh. But Larry, dear. More than trivial is less than what matters. (in matters of the heart, dearest, darling Larry.) I always think of things that matter most when I feel the least or something sort of similar sometimes.

(do you know what I mean? I always think of you on a cloudy day, when the sun is shining and my fenders are dull. Follow me?)

But anyways. It is unkind to talk sensibly in a non-sensible context on Wedsdays and Saturdays.

So, please. Go On. Tell me all about your glorious baptism and how lovely the angels sound with the brass band playing so loudly in the rear. (It's a beautiful story, and besides, you bad, bad, boy, you never talk to me any more! My morning tea is so bitter without your honeyed-tongue lapping at the rim.)

Hosta my minchies. See you on the flip side.
Kiss, Kiss.


KayeBaby

 

Hosta my minchies?

Posted by Declan on April 13, 2007, at 1:14:51

In reply to Re: you know what? » Larry Hoover, posted by KayeBaby on April 13, 2007, at 0:08:42

Very interesting.

 

May I conclude you're a fan? (nm) » KayeBaby

Posted by Larry Hoover on April 13, 2007, at 7:19:06

In reply to Re: you know what? » Larry Hoover, posted by KayeBaby on April 13, 2007, at 0:08:42

 

Re: May I conclude you're a fan? » Larry Hoover

Posted by KayeBaby on April 13, 2007, at 14:39:53

In reply to May I conclude you're a fan? (nm) » KayeBaby, posted by Larry Hoover on April 13, 2007, at 7:19:06

Most certainly!

You are mine minchy-main.

Kiss!
Kaye

 

Re: Actually..... » kid47

Posted by karen_kay on April 14, 2007, at 9:25:43

In reply to Actually....., posted by kid47 on April 11, 2007, at 17:32:12

there's a country radio station around these parts called wkkg. we alugh every time my sister listens to it and the call letters come on. it had to have been named after me, even though it's been around, long before i was ever thoguht of, even my maiden name.

about the klonopin (clonazapan, as mr kkog pointed out when i wrote my ode. i thought about rewriting it, but this is as far a i got...

clonazapan, clanazapan
i can smash a beer bottle
in my hand
if you haven't had one
you wouldn't understand


yeah, that's about as far as i got then figured, if i can't even say the word without hesitation, tehn i'll stick with the first word on the prescription bottle, right?

i'm sorry you're anxious. it's going around. perhaps a poem will brighten yoru day? and happily send you upon your way?

roses are red
but they can be yellow
kk is mean
but she can be mellow
things will get better
or things will get worse
but things will be changing
perhaps it's a curse
life's about living
or maybe about dying
but i'm gonna say
i'll be getting high (ing)

hey, it rhymes?

and about them nerve pills. i guess i could spare a few. but i know better. you're a hoarder and probably have three in yoru pocket.

have the best day ever,
mrs kkog (that looks live kellog or something. )

 

Re: Actually..... » karen_kay

Posted by Gabbi-2 on April 14, 2007, at 20:41:10

In reply to Re: Actually..... » kid47, posted by karen_kay on April 14, 2007, at 9:25:43

I loved your poem : )

I think I remember Nikki saying something like this about anxiety "Well, if I take enough Benzos I can sleep through it"

That's about the only cure I've found too.

I hate it when "professionals" confuse anxiety with nervous anticipation. They say things like "think about what you're anxious about and what the likely outcome will be" or whatever
And it's NOT about one thing, that would be normal. It's a relief to me when there's something actually anxiety provoking going on because it makes sense, when it makes no sense it's horrifying.

 

You missed your calling » Larry Hoover

Posted by MCK on April 18, 2007, at 13:59:22

In reply to Re: you know what? » karen_kay, posted by Larry Hoover on April 11, 2007, at 16:56:01

You have all the qualities necessary to be a televangelist or a politician.

Interesting that you would speak of manipulation.
When people dared disagree with you on A.l.T Med
you posted under another name that "Larry Hoover was dying, and he is the "bravest man I know"
This deflected the situation for a while.

And, this I've noticed seems to be a theme surrounding you, when a woman at same board asked you repeatedly to not post to her, and finally placed a "killfile" on your posts, you borrowed another name in order to continue your arguments.

On Babble I've noticed you simply "forget" that there have been do not post requests made to you by women.


 

Please be civil » MCK

Posted by gardenergirl on April 18, 2007, at 14:22:39

In reply to You missed your calling » Larry Hoover, posted by MCK on April 18, 2007, at 13:59:22


> Interesting that you would speak of manipulation.
> When people dared disagree with you on A.l.T Med
> you posted ...

> On Babble I've noticed you simply "forget" that there have been do not post requests made to you by women.

Please don't post anything that could lead others to feel accused or jump to conclusions about others. If you or others have questions about this or about posting policies in general, or are interested in alternative ways of expressing yourself, please first see the FAQ:
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faq.html#civil
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faq.html#enforce

Follow-ups regarding these issues should be directed to Psycho-Babble Administration and should of course be civil. Dr. Bob has oversight over deputy decisions, and he may choose a different action. If you wish, you can appeal this decision to him.

namasté

gg, acting as deputy

 

Re: You missed your calling » MCK

Posted by Larry Hoover on April 18, 2007, at 19:23:50

In reply to You missed your calling » Larry Hoover, posted by MCK on April 18, 2007, at 13:59:22

> When people dared disagree with you on A.l.T Med
> you posted under another name that "Larry Hoover was dying, and he is the "bravest man I know"

I did no such thing. If you're going to claim quotations, at least get them correct. The ones you supplied are false, although I was able to find the relevant thread.

That thread was a gross invasion of my privacy. I said it was none of *his* business then, and it remains none of *your* business now.

> Interesting that you would speak of manipulation.

Manipulating the truth is the least acceptable to me.

I have only ever made (approximately) three posts not under my own name (in 2001?), and I felt so bad about it, I outed myself, even though I'd already stopped, and nobody knew. What then happened, though, was that all sorts of posts were attributed to me that I did not make. Apart from those three posts, I have only posted under my own name (three variants, on different servers) for 16 years, and *that* you can Google.

> This deflected the situation for a while.

Oh, really? It seems to have quite a life.

> And, this I've noticed seems to be a theme surrounding you, when a woman at same board asked you repeatedly to not post to her, and finally placed a "killfile" on your posts, you borrowed another name in order to continue your arguments.

Like I was just saying..... I have always encouraged people to killfile me, if that's what would make *them* feel better. To facilitate that, I only ever used my own name, save for three (+/-) posts, ever.

This woman you speak of has posted under dozens and dozens of aliases, and continues to make unsubstantiated allegations against people on various groups. Just look at a.s.d.m., and find posts with the word kook in them.

> On Babble I've noticed you simply "forget" that there have been do not post requests made to you by women.

I wasn't posting to that other party. I was posting a contrasting declarative sentence, and my opinion of the contrast, to further that position which I had already expressed. I was speaking only to the audience at large.

What amazes me is that someone can direct the subject line of a post to me, and make an obvious personal inference, i.e. "what's that got to do with you? and i thought i was narcisistic!", without anybody making hay of it. That wasn't to me, right? Whereas, in a post with no subject line direction, I make a declarative statement about a specific (though implied) third party (Jai), and add an opinion, and somehow I'm posting to a second party?

The FAQ clearly states: "Posting to someone means directing either the subject line or the body of a post to them. Replying to a post by someone isn't necessarily posting to them." I retained a quoted portion of text simply to make the contrast between the differing syntax clear. If the issue is in making use of the "include above post" button, then the FAQ should also make mention of it. If a general declarative statement can be taken as being posted to a particular person, then I fear for my safety here.

Lar


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