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Posted by Fi on December 16, 2001, at 14:11:41
I know I'm lucky that I'm not particularly depressed at the moment. I get myself to work and function OK there, but at home I only to do the minimum. Some things I used to do as a regular routine I dont anymore, so its more of a decision to do them.
My problems are:
1. How do I decide what I *have* to do? I'm particularly aware of this as this weekend I have been awake for a while in the mornings, but decided to stay in bed, gone back to sleep, and woken up at 2.45ish in the afternoon. Not sure if that *matters*... Or not washing the kitchen floor for weeks etc etc
2. How do I *make* myself do the things I need to? I just dont seem to have the willpower I used to. I do lots of encouraging/ bullying of myself, and imagine doing it; but often it gets me nowhere- the part of me on the 'receiving end' of this just shrugs it off.Anyone else's ideas v welcome!
Fi
Posted by Kristi on December 16, 2001, at 17:42:32
In reply to What has to be done- and motivating self to do it?, posted by Fi on December 16, 2001, at 14:11:41
> I know I'm lucky that I'm not particularly depressed at the moment. I get myself to work and function OK there, but at home I only to do the minimum. Some things I used to do as a regular routine I dont anymore, so its more of a decision to do them.
>
> My problems are:
> 1. How do I decide what I *have* to do? I'm particularly aware of this as this weekend I have been awake for a while in the mornings, but decided to stay in bed, gone back to sleep, and woken up at 2.45ish in the afternoon. Not sure if that *matters*... Or not washing the kitchen floor for weeks etc etc
> 2. How do I *make* myself do the things I need to? I just dont seem to have the willpower I used to. I do lots of encouraging/ bullying of myself, and imagine doing it; but often it gets me nowhere- the part of me on the 'receiving end' of this just shrugs it off.
>
> Anyone else's ideas v welcome!
>
> FiI don't have the answers for ya Fi, but hoping someone else out their does. My father is coming to town for christmas... he'll be here tuesday, and I have so much to do in prep for his visit and I just keep doing pretty much nothing. Except thinking about what needs to be done.
Posted by Anna Laura on December 17, 2001, at 2:11:38
In reply to What has to be done- and motivating self to do it?, posted by Fi on December 16, 2001, at 14:11:41
> I know I'm lucky that I'm not particularly depressed at the moment. I get myself to work and function OK there, but at home I only to do the minimum. Some things I used to do as a regular routine I dont anymore, so its more of a decision to do them.
>
> My problems are:
> 1. How do I decide what I *have* to do? I'm particularly aware of this as this weekend I have been awake for a while in the mornings, but decided to stay in bed, gone back to sleep, and woken up at 2.45ish in the afternoon. Not sure if that *matters*... Or not washing the kitchen floor for weeks etc etc
> 2. How do I *make* myself do the things I need to? I just dont seem to have the willpower I used to. I do lots of encouraging/ bullying of myself, and imagine doing it; but often it gets me nowhere- the part of me on the 'receiving end' of this just shrugs it off.
>
> Anyone else's ideas v welcome!
>
> Fi
Hi Fi,
It's a nice thing to hear you feel better and i think you should take advantage of it right away; besides that i don't think you should push yourself too hard to do things cause it would be counterproductive: you might end up feeling kind of guilty. You May consider your idleness as a good sign : since you feel better, you get bored of usual things and you need more stimulating things to do. If you don't feel like taking care of your house at the moment you may want to look for interesting things to do OUTSIDE the house. May be you're not motivated enough cause you get bored being alone: perhaps you should look for new people and activities.
I've had the same problem as i got better months ago: i used to do housework every day before that: as i grew better i start neglecting the house and i focused more on the outside world that had grown more appealing. Just a suggestion...
Posted by Fi on December 17, 2001, at 11:22:59
In reply to Re: What has to be done- and motivating self to do, posted by Anna Laura on December 17, 2001, at 2:11:38
Thanks to both of you!
Really nice to realise their could be a positive side to this- getting myself looking outward more (and not beating myself up about leaving the kitchen floor just a bit longer!) Hadnt thought of that at all.
Good luck, Kristi. If its any help, try to stick to only the essential things. And maybe (just maybe) your father could help with some of the things?
Fi
Posted by JohnDoenut on December 17, 2001, at 16:13:32
In reply to What has to be done- and motivating self to do it?, posted by Fi on December 16, 2001, at 14:11:41
Im going to repeat my old saw again! :)
There are two good books Ill recommend.
One is Driven to Distraction about ADD.
The other is called Do What You Love, the Money Will Follow. The second one is not really about money but personal matters and finding out what works for you to get something done!Let us know what you think if you read them.
However you sound like me before I learned I had ADD!JohnD
> I know I'm lucky that I'm not particularly depressed at the moment. I get myself to work and function OK there, but at home I only to do the minimum. Some things I used to do as a regular routine I dont anymore, so its more of a decision to do them.
>
> My problems are:
> 1. How do I decide what I *have* to do? I'm particularly aware of this as this weekend I have been awake for a while in the mornings, but decided to stay in bed, gone back to sleep, and woken up at 2.45ish in the afternoon. Not sure if that *matters*... Or not washing the kitchen floor for weeks etc etc
> 2. How do I *make* myself do the things I need to? I just dont seem to have the willpower I used to. I do lots of encouraging/ bullying of myself, and imagine doing it; but often it gets me nowhere- the part of me on the 'receiving end' of this just shrugs it off.
>
> Anyone else's ideas v welcome!
>
> Fi
Posted by kiddo on December 17, 2001, at 19:03:25
In reply to What has to be done- and motivating self to do it?, posted by Fi on December 16, 2001, at 14:11:41
Hiya-
It's kiddo, I'm not sure if we've met, but I don't think so, so...pleased to meet ya.I have ADD, and it's really difficult (even with meds sometimes) to stay on focus. Not only is it easy to get side tracked doing the things that need taken care of, but hard to get motivated as well.
On 'cleaning' days Here's what I do...
Start with the room that needs the least cleaning. Set an egg timer (I use my microwave timer on the second level) for like 10-15 minutes and try to beat the clock. If you have minutes left when you're finished, add those to the next room. (But don't forget to increase the minutes as your workload does or you'll get discouraged and want to quit!) I know it sounds weird, but it works-most of the time.
If you start with the one that has the least to do, you'll build your minutes up and by the time you reach the major rooms, you'll really race to get it done.
The hardest part is getting started, that's when I put on good music, and go at it.
Lemme know if you try it and it works?
Kiddo
> I know I'm lucky that I'm not particularly depressed at the moment. I get myself to work and function OK there, but at home I only to do the minimum. Some things I used to do as a regular routine I dont anymore, so its more of a decision to do them.
>
> My problems are:
> 1. How do I decide what I *have* to do? I'm particularly aware of this as this weekend I have been awake for a while in the mornings, but decided to stay in bed, gone back to sleep, and woken up at 2.45ish in the afternoon. Not sure if that *matters*... Or not washing the kitchen floor for weeks etc etc
> 2. How do I *make* myself do the things I need to? I just dont seem to have the willpower I used to. I do lots of encouraging/ bullying of myself, and imagine doing it; but often it gets me nowhere- the part of me on the 'receiving end' of this just shrugs it off.
>
> Anyone else's ideas v welcome!
>
> Fi
Posted by IsoM on December 18, 2001, at 1:55:13
In reply to What has to be done- and motivating self to do it?, posted by Fi on December 16, 2001, at 14:11:41
I hate to recommend something that works so well for me as it may be bust for someone else. I feel leery about it because it seems pushy to me but here goes...
Adrafinil (Olmifon) has been such a blessing for me. Modafinil (Provigil) might work just as well but it's more expensive so I didn't bother with it.
I got the order screwed up so that I ran out last Thursday with no pills. I've only been taking it for a little over a month & for me, the improvement happened over a couple of weeks so it wasn't as noticable as a sudden change.
Now that I don't have it, I can tell the differences even though not all its good effects have worn off.
I so miss not having it. I'm not depressed - the Celexa & small amount of Paxil stops that but my motivation is gone again. I once again have to force myself to do things, to get up & get busy without having a deadline hanging over my head. With the adrafinil, I didn't suddenly change but just started doing more, accomplishing more & feeling very gentle & content inside.
My ADHD-muddled-up ideas went away. I became focused & not so distracted like before. (How many of us start looking something up on the net, get side-tracked by something else, & a couple of hours later can't even remember what we were looking for?) Boy. is the difference ever noticable when the adrafinil isn't there! Even boring things became fun or interesting to do, not tedious like before.
As I said, I hate to push anything but adrafinil has been a god-send for me. It's something that I've been looking for for so many years. More even & level than Ritalin or Dexedrine. Never ups or down, just steady contented satisfaction. Oh, I hope my order gets here soon!!
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> I know I'm lucky that I'm not particularly depressed at the moment. I get myself to work and function OK there, but at home I only to do the minimum. Some things I used to do as a regular routine I dont anymore, so its more of a decision to do them.
>
> My problems are:
> 1. How do I decide what I *have* to do? I'm particularly aware of this as this weekend I have been awake for a while in the mornings, but decided to stay in bed, gone back to sleep, and woken up at 2.45ish in the afternoon. Not sure if that *matters*... Or not washing the kitchen floor for weeks etc etc
> 2. How do I *make* myself do the things I need to? I just dont seem to have the willpower I used to. I do lots of encouraging/ bullying of myself, and imagine doing it; but often it gets me nowhere- the part of me on the 'receiving end' of this just shrugs it off.
>
> Anyone else's ideas v welcome!
>
> Fi
Posted by fi on December 18, 2001, at 11:50:28
In reply to Re: What has to be done- and motivating self to do it? » Fi, posted by kiddo on December 17, 2001, at 19:03:25
Hiya Kiddo- good to meet you!
Your message includes several ideas that sound really useful which I hadnt thought of -I'll certainly give it a try. I dont have a problem staying on focus- that must make it even harder.
Thanks!
Fi
Hiya-
> It's kiddo, I'm not sure if we've met, but I don't think so, so...pleased to meet ya.
>
> I have ADD, and it's really difficult (even with meds sometimes) to stay on focus. Not only is it easy to get side tracked doing the things that need taken care of, but hard to get motivated as well.
>
> On 'cleaning' days Here's what I do...
>
> Start with the room that needs the least cleaning. Set an egg timer (I use my microwave timer on the second level) for like 10-15 minutes and try to beat the clock. If you have minutes left when you're finished, add those to the next room. (But don't forget to increase the minutes as your workload does or you'll get discouraged and want to quit!) I know it sounds weird, but it works-most of the time.
>
> If you start with the one that has the least to do, you'll build your minutes up and by the time you reach the major rooms, you'll really race to get it done.
>
> The hardest part is getting started, that's when I put on good music, and go at it.
>
> Lemme know if you try it and it works?
>
> Kiddo
Posted by fi on December 18, 2001, at 11:58:00
In reply to Re: What has to be done- and motivating self to do it?, posted by JohnDoenut on December 17, 2001, at 16:13:32
Thanks for these, JohnD
I dont think I have ADD as I can concentrate for long periods, but thanks for the suggestion. I'm also lucky in having a job that suits me at the moment. Tho its all change at work with restructuring so I may need to think again, and will try and organise myself to look for the second book.
Fi
> Im going to repeat my old saw again! :)
> There are two good books Ill recommend.
> One is "Driven To Distration" about ADD.
> The other is called "Do What You Love, The Money Will Follow". The second one is not really about money but personal matters and finding out what works for you to get something done!
>
> Let us know what you think if you read them.
> However you sound like me before I learned I had ADD!
>
> JohnD
>
Posted by fi on December 18, 2001, at 12:06:15
In reply to Re: What has to be done- and motivating self to do it? » Fi, posted by IsoM on December 18, 2001, at 1:55:13
Thanks for posting this info- its not "pushy" as we can all choose what we act on. I'm pleased adrafinil works for you, and hope you get some more *soon*.
I think I'm lucky enough not to have ADHD, so not sure if this med would be relevant. It doesnt look like its available on prescription in my country anyway, but if I go back to my doctor sometime I'll bear it in mind.
Thanks again.
Fi
> I hate to recommend something that works so well for me as it may be bust for someone else. I feel leery about it because it seems pushy to me but here goes...
>
> Adrafinil (Olmifon) has been such a blessing for me. Modafinil (Provigil) might work just as well but it's more expensive so I didn't bother with it.
>
> I got the order screwed up so that I ran out last Thursday with no pills. I've only been taking it for a little over a month & for me, the improvement happened over a couple of weeks so it wasn't as noticable as a sudden change.
>
> Now that I don't have it, I can tell the differences even though not all its good effects have worn off.
>
> I so miss not having it. I'm not depressed - the Celexa & small amount of Paxil stops that but my motivation is gone again. I once again have to force myself to do things, to get up & get busy without having a deadline hanging over my head. With the adrafinil, I didn't suddenly change but just started doing more, accomplishing more & feeling very gentle & content inside.
>
> My ADHD-muddled-up ideas went away. I became focused & not so distracted like before. (How many of us start looking something up on the net, get side-tracked by something else, & a couple of hours later can't even remember what we were looking for?) Boy. is the difference ever noticable when the adrafinil isn't there! Even boring things became fun or interesting to do, not tedious like before.
>
> As I said, I hate to push anything but adrafinil has been a god-send for me. It's something that I've been looking for for so many years. More even & level than Ritalin or Dexedrine. Never ups or down, just steady contented satisfaction. Oh, I hope my order gets here soon!!
>
>
Posted by JohnDoenut on December 18, 2001, at 17:04:03
In reply to Re: What has to be done- and motivating self to do it? » JohnDoenut, posted by fi on December 18, 2001, at 11:58:00
> I dont think I have ADD as I can concentrate for long periods,This is part of the misconception about what ADD really is!!! Its not attenion deficit so much as attention inconsistency. People with ADD can actually hyperfocus at times and for long periods. Please think again seriously about reading the book or taking it out of the library so you can see what I mean! If you don't fit, then you must aquit! ;-) If you want to know what's up then I suggest looking at all avenues.
JohnD
Posted by JohnDoenut on December 18, 2001, at 17:09:13
In reply to Re: What has to be done- and motivating self to do it? » Fi, posted by kiddo on December 17, 2001, at 19:03:25
>
> On 'cleaning' days Here's what I do...
>
> Start with the room that needs the least cleaning. Set an egg timer (I use my microwave timer on the second level) for like 10-15 minutes and try to beat the clock. If you have minutes left when you're finished, add those to the next room. (But don't forget to increase the minutes as your workload does or you'll get discouraged and want to quit!) I know it sounds weird, but it works-most of the time.
>What youre describing are the ways people with ADD or people in general can do to get organized. People with ADD need structure, and pressure helps too, and with this egg timer thing thats exactly what you are giving yourself. Hey whatever works. Myself I make lists and prioritize and I structure when I do those things around my energy levels and which thing can be done during that cycle. The meds help too of course! :)
JohnD
Posted by IsoM on December 18, 2001, at 20:31:57
In reply to Re: What has to be done- and motivating self to do it?, posted by JohnDoenut on December 18, 2001, at 17:09:13
Fi, I just want to tell you that you still may have ADD. I had once thought only manic ill-behaved little boys had ADD till I read about it. The more I read, the more it sounded like me. I had an assessment done & found I scored high. The psychologist also said I have the hyperactivity part too when I'm busy.
I can focus & work on something for hours. With ADD, what often happens is that a person OVER focuses & isn't even aware of the time going by - they're so engrossed in what they're doing.
There's a lot of information about it on the internet. If you go to www.google.com & just type in ADD symptoms, you'll find a lot of sites that will help you figure out IF you might have it.
Posted by Noa on December 19, 2001, at 19:15:58
In reply to What has to be done- and motivating self to do it?, posted by Fi on December 16, 2001, at 14:11:41
Sounds familiar.
Posted by Fi on December 20, 2001, at 8:20:59
In reply to Re: What has to be done- and motivating self to do it?, posted by JohnDoenut on December 18, 2001, at 17:09:13
I'll do somemore investigating before deciding that I dont have ADD (I've obviously only taken on some of the popular myths so far!)
Thanks.
Fi
Posted by cmcdougall on December 24, 2001, at 9:44:03
In reply to Re: What has to be done JohnD IsoM, posted by Fi on December 20, 2001, at 8:20:59
Dear Fi,
I have the hyper-focus type of ADD and took ritalin for about 8 years. Now I take adderall and like it MUCH better. Really helps with the motivation. I also have a terrible procrastination problem. I just received two books about procrastination I recently ordered - now if I can only get around to reading them.
Another member of this board recommended www.FlyLady.net I LOVE this website and it really helps me keep track of what I need to take care of. Its free, they don't try to sell you anything, and the little reminders and motivational tips they send are very helpful.
Good luck,
Carly
Posted by nightlight on December 24, 2001, at 21:12:15
In reply to Re: What has to be done- and motivating self to do it? » IsoM, posted by fi on December 18, 2001, at 12:06:15
>
> I think I'm lucky enough not to have ADHD, so not sure if this med would be relevant. It doesnt look like its available on prescription in my country anyway, but if I go back to my doctor sometime I'll bear it in mind.
>
> Thanks again.
>
> Fi
>
Dear Fi,
I, too, must jump on the 'please test yourself for ADD' bandwagon.My story? I was the 'brainiac' in elem. school, high IQ, skipped a grade, kids stood in line to see my boring report cards-all A's. Oddly enuf, I didn't have to work to too hard to get those A's, I was very bright, and my parents stayed involved with my daily responsibilities. They were great 'coaches', so to speak.
Then came financial upheaval, relocation to new city and school, parents were stressed out and so was I. Things began to fall apart. I cd. not organize, or make myself learn the subjects that did not come easily to my 'right-sided' brain.
I knew I had ability, but, I cd. not harness it consistently, and never knew where my 'head' wd. be from one day to the next. I got bored SO easily.
Well, from 7th to 12th, my grades spiraled slowly, but surely, and I flunked out of college, tho my IQ tested over 160. Obviously, I must've been just plain lazy and didn't really care about anything-right? No, so wrong.When I finally read Driven to Distraction (20 yrs. later) and checked off all the symptoms I had, I couldn't really believe it. I loved to read classic books and sat thru dozens of long foreign or Merchant-Ivory type films. I wasn't hyper, I was a slug, who considered myself lucky to keep a job at all-I made SURE it was not too demanding or stressful.I suffered from low energy, and demanded sufficient sleep to cope at all. I married, but remained childless, because I knew I couldn't take good care of myself, much less a hubby and kid.
When I took "Driven" to my doc (obviously, in retrospect, not adult-ADD savvy) and showed him the results and my concerns and mentioned the fact that no A-D's had helped me over the yrs., only phentermine, which I took for a yr. for obesity, he asked me one ? 'Can you read a book from beginning to end?' I repled, 'yes', and he said, "Then you don't have ADD", period. Granted, he was only a gp, but I was searching for p-docs along the way and tried sev'l.And, my gp kept me up to date with trying a variey of A-D's til I either got better or found a good shrink.
I finally got lucky-2 months ago.
Just think it over. I simply cannot function properly or avoid devastating depressions and impulsive, self-defeating behavior without them.
I'm still far from cured, however!!! My Xmas tree is up, but not yet decorated, and I HATE that task. Plus, hubby skipped out on me to spend the evening w/his out of town brother. I still have stuff to wrap a couple presents to make. Guess, I better move my ass off this 'puter, huh.
Best wishes for a quick and pain-free holiday.
nightlight
Posted by Gracie2 on December 26, 2001, at 17:20:10
In reply to Re: What has to be done- and motivating self to do it? » fi, posted by nightlight on December 24, 2001, at 21:12:15
Fi-
I know exactly how you feel and all I can say is to watch Martha Stewart on TV and do exactly the opposite of what she does. Don't own long-haired pets. Don't have wooden floors that need to be waxed. Throw away your melon ballers and all that crap you never use. Never attempt to fold fitted sheets. Forget the rose garden. Don't collect anything that needs to be dusted. In other words,
simplify, simplify, simplify. It helps.
-Gracie
Posted by Fi on December 27, 2001, at 10:27:04
In reply to Fi - I have the same problem, posted by cmcdougall on December 24, 2001, at 9:44:03
Carly
It looks great- thank you! 15 min chunks in bedroom will start this weekend..!Good luck with your reading...
Fi
> Dear Fi,
>
> I have the hyper-focus type of ADD and took ritalin for about 8 years. Now I take adderall and like it MUCH better. Really helps with the motivation. I also have a terrible procrastination problem. I just received two books about procrastination I recently ordered - now if I can only get around to reading them.
>
> Another member of this board recommended www.FlyLady.net I LOVE this website and it really helps me keep track of what I need to take care of. Its free, they don't try to sell you anything, and the little reminders and motivational tips they send are very helpful.
>
> Good luck,
> Carly
Posted by Fi on December 27, 2001, at 10:58:36
In reply to Re: What has to be done- and motivating self to do it? » fi, posted by nightlight on December 24, 2001, at 21:12:15
Nightlight
Thanks- havent fitted the couple of internet lists I've found on ADD, but also getting Driven to Distraction from library to check further.
Much appeciate your time to do this message, and sympathies re tree- if anyone in the house actually wants one, they should do the decorating! Hope it all went well in the end. I've just got home and ,altho it went OK, am *so* pleased its over!
Will now see if I can send this message just once, unlike the last one...!
Fi
Posted by Fi on December 27, 2001, at 11:00:01
In reply to Re: What has to be done- and motivating self to do it?, posted by Gracie2 on December 26, 2001, at 17:20:10
>
> Fi-
> I know exactly how you feel and all I can say is to watch Martha Stewart on TV and do exactly the opposite of what she does. Don't own long-haired pets. Don't have wooden floors that need to be waxed. Throw away your melon ballers and all that crap you never use. Never attempt to fold fitted sheets. Forget the rose garden. Don't collect anything that needs to be dusted. In other words,
> simplify, simplify, simplify. It helps.
> -Gracie
Posted by Noa on December 31, 2001, at 15:12:16
In reply to Re: What has to be done-nice one, thanks!(nm) » Gracie2, posted by Fi on December 27, 2001, at 11:00:01
Checked out that site--flylady. Like the acronym--CHAOS (Can't Have Anyone Over Syndrome). That's me. My place is a wreck. I want to fix it up but can't mobilize the energy for it. Going to try to use flylady as some structure--we'll see.....
I do like her idea of dressing "to the shoes". I think there is something to that--if I get up and get dressed and put my shoes on, I'm less likely to lapse into napping, or loafing.
I think a big part of my problem is that no one but me is affected by the mess, so I get into a rut of feeling, "what does it matter?"
Anyway, thanks for the link.
And, Gracie, I think you are right, too--keeping it simple probably helps.
Posted by Noa on January 4, 2002, at 6:55:18
In reply to Re: What has to be done-nice one, thanks!, posted by Noa on December 31, 2001, at 15:12:16
So I've now been receiving flylady.com's many daily reminders. A lot of it isn't useful for me, but there are a few things I find helpful: the "dressing to the shoes" thing, some of the routines (like getting all your morning stuff together before going to bed), the timed 15-minute de-cluttering reminders, and possibly the structure of following her week by week "zone" focus, which kind of gives a group effort feel to it--ie, knowing lots of people are focusing on their entry-ways this week, their living rooms next week, etc.
But one thing bothers me: she is so into anti-clutter and yet she sends out SO many emails every day that I spent an hour just de-cluttering my email mailbox!
Posted by nightlight on January 4, 2002, at 8:22:33
In reply to Re: Flylady's advice, posted by Noa on January 4, 2002, at 6:55:18
Dear Noa:
SO true!
But, if it worked for me, it wd. be worth the xtra e-m's & ya know what those a.m. & p.m. ones are gonna say, so I just dump most of them. I just started getting them about about 3 weeks ago (thanks SusanC I think?) & I need to organize & de-clutter desperately. CHAOS rules! I shd. be shining my sink (spent last nite beading & reading-up way too late, as usual).Now I must rush to get my child to pre-K and myself to my tiny 10-hr a week job!
Pitiful!But, I really do need to establish routines~~most everything heretofore has been determined by my mood/pain/energy level. & now that I feel a little better, I want to spend my time enjoying myself. A bit immature, I know, but it's the truth.
I remember your posts from a couple of summers ago. You were not well, and agonizing over yr. apt. I never posted to you about that-too ill, but I'm glad both you and your home seem to be feeling better.
Have always enjoyed your posts. Hope your day is a good one.
nightlight (was Zannah)
> So I've now been receiving flylady.com's many daily reminders. A lot of it isn't useful for me, but there are a few things I find helpful: the "dressing to the shoes" thing, some of the routines (like getting all your morning stuff together before going to bed), the timed 15-minute de-cluttering reminders, and possibly the structure of following her week by week "zone" focus, which kind of gives a group effort feel to it--ie, knowing lots of people are focusing on their entry-ways this week, their living rooms next week, etc.
>
> But one thing bothers me: she is so into anti-clutter and yet she sends out SO many emails every day that I spent an hour just de-cluttering my email mailbox!
Posted by Fi on January 6, 2002, at 6:32:19
In reply to Re: Flylady's advice, posted by Noa on January 4, 2002, at 6:55:18
I like the decluttering and baby steps- and the idea of not having new year's resolutions!
I've chosen the option of getting a 'daily digest' ie I get just one email each day, containing all the days emails with a list of titles at the beginning.
Otherwise, I would have been despairing of all the clutter in my in-box, as you say. I cant remember where I found the instructions to do this, but it was probably in one of the introductory emails. Let me know if you cant find it and I'll do some hunting.Of course, she's also advised getting stuck into taking down them thar decorations- will do that next!
Fi
> So I've now been receiving flylady.com's many daily reminders. A lot of it isn't useful for me, but there are a few things I find helpful: the "dressing to the shoes" thing, some of the routines (like getting all your morning stuff together before going to bed), the timed 15-minute de-cluttering reminders, and possibly the structure of following her week by week "zone" focus, which kind of gives a group effort feel to it--ie, knowing lots of people are focusing on their entry-ways this week, their living rooms next week, etc.
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> But one thing bothers me: she is so into anti-clutter and yet she sends out SO many emails every day that I spent an hour just de-cluttering my email mailbox!
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