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Re: May I add ...

Posted by shellie on February 10, 2001, at 21:41:57

In reply to Re: May I add ..., posted by allisonm on February 10, 2001, at 20:50:12

Interesting to hear all this male therapist and pdoc talk. My pdoc and my therapist (PhD) are both women and dress very differently. Probably a lot more variation when looking at how women shrinks dress. My therapist is pretty consistent in her style:blacks with reds, fushias and purples; sweaters or short jackets and skirts in the winter; light short sleeve sweaters and skirts in the summer with more whites and flowers. Always stockings with low heals. And Zrip, almost never blue (which I think has more to do with chosing colors that flatter her, rather than the color blue itself). With my pdoc I never know what to expect from a navy suit to a short tank-like dress and sandels.

I kind of like it that my therapist is consistent--when she looks different (e.g., once a brown checked jacket, or cuts her hair) I get thrown off and have to recover before I start the session.) It's also interesting to me that I never even entertained the thought of picking a male therapist, whereas with docs in general (besides my gyn), I don't care either way. Shellie

 

You guys are lucky ...

Posted by willow on February 10, 2001, at 21:57:26

In reply to Re: May I add ..., posted by shellie on February 10, 2001, at 21:41:57

I tried to find a woman psychologist, since I had seen one as a teenager and I just preferred it. I'm uncomfortable discussing sexual issues with a man. (My husbands not a problem and yes he is a man.) And in reality sexuality is a real part of us, just look at all the posts on the other board concerning it!

I'm getting better with being more open. I had a dream where this guy propositioned me, I turned him down and explained it had nothing to do with him but I had other stuff going on. When I woke up I thought "Wow, if I knew it was a dream I would have went for it!"

I'm glad the lines of communication are going good with you Allisonm, because I think I waste alot of time trying to figure out were my psych is coming from.

 

Re: May I add ... » allisonm

Posted by Rzip on February 10, 2001, at 22:20:04

In reply to Re: May I add ..., posted by allisonm on February 10, 2001, at 20:50:12

> I think my pdoc stays distant when things are going badly with me. He keeps his voice low and quiet. He gets warmer and more friendly when we are really able to talk -- when I'm not in a bad way. Another thing I have noticed is that he has been reacting with more emotion when things happen to me or when people do rotten things, and even voices opinions about whatever it is -- usually sarcastic toward the other party. I am always kind of surprised. He also tends to explain more of where he is going in a conversation when I start questioning his questions instead of just asking me to bear with the line of questioning.

My current therapist nods his head a lot. And he goes "Ahmm", "Ahmm", like so. A lot. He lets me talk...he is really quiet at those moments.

I think he frowns when I talk about pouring candle wax on my hand (in the past). Thank goodness I do not do that any longer. Although I am finding myself burning some candles again. There is still that urge to dip my finger into the hot wax. The pain is kind of satisifying momentarily. But I know from past experience that it is not good to my mental state in the long run.

He kind lets me talk, when I do talk. I always wonder what goes on in his head during those moments. I really like him. He is funny. He's gentle and have a good sense of humor. He's good at dramatizing things, acting things out. He makes me laugh. I love it. Great chemistry between us.

- Rzip

 

Re: I know what you mean, but ... » willow

Posted by Rzip on February 10, 2001, at 23:02:55

In reply to I know what you mean, but ..., posted by willow on February 10, 2001, at 21:21:48

Allisonm,

> Doesn't that bother you? My best friend plus my husband, both told me I'm suppose to talk about everything to the psych. So finally I open up and tell him about some disturbing thoughts that I have had since a teenager. I wanted some feedback. Nothing!

Two thoughts come to my mind:
1) Take it as a complement that your therapist considers you insightful enough to figure things out for yourself. He wants you to figure out solutions and insights on your own, using him as a medium. Makes you wonder why pay him, uh? I guess you pay him for the safe and comfort setting that his session provides. The silence just tells you that he thinks you are quite intelligent :-)
2) The downside could be that he is not ready to make any conclusions. He is still piecing things together. He wants to avoid making wrong interpretations (if he is a good therapist).

Personally, I hate the silences also. But I also do not want to push my therapist to make a rushed interpretation. Afterall, I take my therapist's findings/words very seriously to heart.

> I want to push for an answer but am more scared of how I'll look. I guess that is sort of how RZip feels?

I do not really have any pressing thoughts that I want to share. Usually, I do not want to share much. To be truthful, I did not even want to see a therapist. But my former therapist nagged me time and time again. After a while, I felt so bad that my former therapist cared so much, so I called up my current therapist as a gesture of appreciation to her.

Yes, I do have a lot of anxieties. But, I am not intune enough to really understand what I am anxious about. Fortunately, I really get along with my current therapist-- so we'll see. I have my fingers crossed as I venture (again) into the bumpy waters.


> I think when someone is having a hard time they need reassurance, etc.

I agree. That's what I imagine my current therapist doing outside session. In my imagination, he comes to my aid, like a white knight in shining armor.

> RZip you have a double whammy!

What you mean?

> Have you ever tried writing down what you want to talk about prior to a session and then read from it to get started?

Thank you Allisonm for mentioning this tactic. You are right that I won't have to make eye-contact. And it certainly did help in the past.

This format worked well with my very first therapist (I am on my third one right now). Right now, I want to push myself to communicate more verbally. I feel comfortable doing that...but then again, no pressing matter has come into my mind right now. We are not there yet. I just got back into weekly sessions last week. I actually called today to cancel Monday's appt. because I am sick. I cough when I talk. I think talking irrates my trachea/bronchi airway. So, I have a physical reason to cancel the appt. I kind of feel bad about it because I actually was looking forward to the Monday session. I feel comfortable with this therapist.


> You're not shy with us.
:-)

_________________________________________________
Now, Allisonm...I think that you should definitely bring up your discomfort with the "blankness" of your therapist when you internally so desires him to comfort you. At least let him know that you feel anxiety-provoked by it. Widen the communication channel, you know.

Perhaps, it just ain't his style. Does not fit his personality to be gentle and warm. Then, you will feel more reassured knowing that it does not have anything to do with you. Which in turn will allow you to be even more revealing in session. More productive, faster results...cut down the expenses.

- Rzip

 

Sorry Willow, I put the wrong name on the post (np

Posted by Rzip on February 10, 2001, at 23:13:14

In reply to Re: I know what you mean, but ... » willow, posted by Rzip on February 10, 2001, at 23:02:55

> Allisonm,
>
> > Doesn't that bother you? My best friend plus my husband, both told me I'm suppose to talk about everything to the psych. So finally I open up and tell him about some disturbing thoughts that I have had since a teenager. I wanted some feedback. Nothing!
>
> Two thoughts come to my mind:
> 1) Take it as a complement that your therapist considers you insightful enough to figure things out for yourself. He wants you to figure out solutions and insights on your own, using him as a medium. Makes you wonder why pay him, uh? I guess you pay him for the safe and comfort setting that his session provides. The silence just tells you that he thinks you are quite intelligent :-)
> 2) The downside could be that he is not ready to make any conclusions. He is still piecing things together. He wants to avoid making wrong interpretations (if he is a good therapist).
>
> Personally, I hate the silences also. But I also do not want to push my therapist to make a rushed interpretation. Afterall, I take my therapist's findings/words very seriously to heart.
>
> > I want to push for an answer but am more scared of how I'll look. I guess that is sort of how RZip feels?
>
> I do not really have any pressing thoughts that I want to share. Usually, I do not want to share much. To be truthful, I did not even want to see a therapist. But my former therapist nagged me time and time again. After a while, I felt so bad that my former therapist cared so much, so I called up my current therapist as a gesture of appreciation to her.
>
> Yes, I do have a lot of anxieties. But, I am not intune enough to really understand what I am anxious about. Fortunately, I really get along with my current therapist-- so we'll see. I have my fingers crossed as I venture (again) into the bumpy waters.
>
>
> > I think when someone is having a hard time they need reassurance, etc.
>
> I agree. That's what I imagine my current therapist doing outside session. In my imagination, he comes to my aid, like a white knight in shining armor.
>
> > RZip you have a double whammy!
>
> What you mean?
>
> > Have you ever tried writing down what you want to talk about prior to a session and then read from it to get started?
>
> Thank you Allisonm for mentioning this tactic. You are right that I won't have to make eye-contact. And it certainly did help in the past.
>
> This format worked well with my very first therapist (I am on my third one right now). Right now, I want to push myself to communicate more verbally. I feel comfortable doing that...but then again, no pressing matter has come into my mind right now. We are not there yet. I just got back into weekly sessions last week. I actually called today to cancel Monday's appt. because I am sick. I cough when I talk. I think talking irrates my trachea/bronchi airway. So, I have a physical reason to cancel the appt. I kind of feel bad about it because I actually was looking forward to the Monday session. I feel comfortable with this therapist.
>
>
> > You're not shy with us.
> :-)
>
> _________________________________________________
> Now, Allisonm...I think that you should definitely bring up your discomfort with the "blankness" of your therapist when you internally so desires him to comfort you. At least let him know that you feel anxiety-provoked by it. Widen the communication channel, you know.
>
> Perhaps, it just ain't his style. Does not fit his personality to be gentle and warm. Then, you will feel more reassured knowing that it does not have anything to do with you. Which in turn will allow you to be even more revealing in session. More productive, faster results...cut down the expenses.
>
> - Rzip

 

Re: I put the wrong name on the post

Posted by willow on February 11, 2001, at 0:39:57

In reply to Sorry Willow, I put the wrong name on the post (np, posted by Rzip on February 10, 2001, at 23:13:14

RZip

By double whammy I meant: You're wanting or needing assistance, but are uncomfortable to talk.

Concerning not wanting to see a therapist right now, this is understandable considering your feelings were hurt previously. And the unknown reason for the anxiety, have you tried any medications for this? I suspect this is a symptom of your body not psychological. Sorta like when you haven't ate for awhile and start to get edgy or whatever.

Okay concerning me being insightful about myself, probably not. I wasn't big on analyzing things. Once I started seeing the psych though I started to analyze everyone's motives. I think it was getting on people's nerves. :) I wonder if anyone else had done this, it was fun for awhile, like a new toy!

It's not that he's not compassionate that's the problem, the problem is that he is. It's almost confusing. I start thinking of him as a friend, though in reality he really isn't. Does that make any sense?

Willow

 

Re: opps ! Sorry !

Posted by pat123 on February 11, 2001, at 0:55:20

In reply to Re: Dr. Bob: Why do psychiatrists wear blue shirts, posted by pat123 on February 10, 2001, at 1:31:09

> You asked the question "why don't most of you take me seriously ?";

Opps ! It seems I took your post too seriously or at face value and missed the humor. I wish I had
just waited till another had posted and then the light bulb would of gone on, I'm sure. I'm really sorry for what I said, Rzip. I took your post in a way that you did not intend.

Pat

 

Re: You guys are lucky ... » willow

Posted by NikkiT2 on February 11, 2001, at 7:24:15

In reply to You guys are lucky ..., posted by willow on February 10, 2001, at 21:57:26

You're lucky just to be able to see a psychologist!!! I've azsked to see one, or at least atherapist, and I ahve a 6 month wait at least!!!
Its a 9 month wait for the day hospital!!! great eh!

N

 

Willow » willow

Posted by Rzip on February 11, 2001, at 9:56:25

In reply to Re: I put the wrong name on the post , posted by willow on February 11, 2001, at 0:39:57

Willow,

You are a very important poster. Dr. Bob in his article mentioned that all the "very important posters" get to have their name posted in the subject line.

> Have you tried any medications for this?

I do not believe in psychiatric medicines. Maybe in another 50 years or so (if I am still alive), I'll feel more confident about the medications. Right now, too little is known about the neurotransmitters. Just think antidepressive meds were only discovered 50 years ago.

In the 1950s, the drug reserpine was used to treat hypertension. However, the reason the drug worked was because it was depleting the neurotransmitters serotonin, norepinephrine, and dopamine. As a result, people taking reserpine showed classical signs of major depression. So, that promoted scientists to recognize that neurotransmitters were indeed crucial to the onset of psychiatric disorders. Also, it made poeple realize that mood disorders are not predisposed to certain people's brains. I mean, here were these people with a somatic disorder (high BP), and they became depressed because of their neurotransmitter depletion. So, in the 1950-60s, scientists jumped for joy to finally discover certain brain systems that can be targeted for medical treatment.

In the recent decade, SSRIs are now able to target more specifically those presynaptic regions for serotonin reuptake. SSRI= Selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors. So, my case in point is that it is not very advanced medicine to be able to only target a neurotransmitter system. I mean so many pathways are linked to that presynaptic region (hence all the side effects). Case in point: I do not feel secure in taking psychiatric meds. I know that this is a bit long winded way of saying I do not trust P-meds.

> Once I started seeing the psych though I started to analyze everyone's motives. I think it was getting on people's nerves. :) I wonder if anyone else had done this, it was fun for awhile, like a new toy!

I know exactly what you mean. Ever since I started therapy, I have been kind of looking at those around me with the assumption that they all have some psychiatric imbalance. Once I figure out what those people lack (attention needy, power needy, lonliness, for instance), I find that I can interact with them a whole lot better by giving them leeways on those exact issues. Like if my boss is power seeking, I purposely give him a bit more power just to satisfy him (and so he can leave me alone).


> I start thinking of him as a friend, though in reality he really isn't. Does that make any sense?

Yeah, I been there. I wanted my former therapist to be more friend so much that it ruined our therapeutic relationship. It is very dis-satisfying to realize that this person who connect so well to you internally and during sessions can not be your friend in the everyday sense. It is very sad. I find myself holding back in therapy now because I do not want to get my hopes up again.

- Rzip

 

Ok. Apology accepted. » pat123

Posted by Rzip on February 11, 2001, at 9:57:17

In reply to Re: opps ! Sorry !, posted by pat123 on February 11, 2001, at 0:55:20

> > You asked the question "why don't most of you take me seriously ?";
>
> Opps ! It seems I took your post too seriously or at face value and missed the humor. I wish I had
> just waited till another had posted and then the light bulb would of gone on, I'm sure. I'm really sorry for what I said, Rzip. I took your post in a way that you did not intend.
>
> Pat

 

Rzip

Posted by allisonm on February 11, 2001, at 12:22:33

In reply to Willow » willow, posted by Rzip on February 11, 2001, at 9:56:25

> > > I do not believe in psychiatric medicines. Maybe in another 50 years or so (if I am still alive), I'll feel more confident about the medications. Right now, too little is known about the neurotransmitters. Just think antidepressive meds were only discovered 50 years ago.
>

Yea, but penicillin was introduced only 60 years ago, and other versions still were being developed in the 1950s and 1960s...

I think radiation and chemotherapy still are crude therapies for cancer, but they are all there is right now, besides surgery. Heck, I think surgery is crude and invasive. Imagine what they'll all be like in 50 years.

I guess if one doesn't feel terribly bad he/she can avoid meds. But if one cannot function well, why suffer through it? No doubt you have heard this ad nauseam, but it's a quality of life issue for me. I don't want to feel horrible for 80 years if I can feel pretty good for 60 or 70. And I wonder if I feel that horrible whether I'd even make it to 80; the stress of living with a mental illness might take more years off my life than would any possible side effect from the drugs to get rid of it.

Best regards,

Allison

 

Only in Canada, Nikki ?

Posted by willow on February 11, 2001, at 13:08:18

In reply to Re: You guys are lucky ... » willow, posted by NikkiT2 on February 11, 2001, at 7:24:15

"Its a 9 month wait for the day hospital!!! great eh!"

Sounds like you are enjoying the priviliges of a "socialist" health care system in Canada? I'm not against it, but it does have its drawbacks.

The government will put help out there to get more nurses etc for physical ailments, but we also need more mental health professionals. In Northern Ontario, which covers a large area, we don't even have a child psychiatrist I believe and if we do than we don't have enough. ;)

Are you in Canada?


 

what's the documented t-shirt phenomenon? (nm) » Rzip

Posted by julesvox on February 11, 2001, at 13:53:38

In reply to Ok. Apology accepted. » pat123, posted by Rzip on February 11, 2001, at 9:57:17

what's the documented t-shirt phenomenon you mentioned earlier?

 

Re: Only in Canada, Nikki ? » willow

Posted by NikkiT2 on February 11, 2001, at 13:57:15

In reply to Only in Canada, Nikki ?, posted by willow on February 11, 2001, at 13:08:18

Nope. I'm in the great UK!!! :o) I live in London, so you would have thougt there be more than enough psych help!! But barely anything!

 

Blue Shirts!

Posted by NikkiT2 on February 11, 2001, at 14:00:23

In reply to Re: opps ! Sorry !, posted by pat123 on February 11, 2001, at 0:55:20

Well, I know I will be checking what my pdoc is wearing next time I see him!! :o) I honestly can't remember what he ahs ever worn... I think I focus on his desk and amaze that there is no pc on it!!! LOL And trying to understand his thick indian accent!! I know he has problems understanding mine too!!! makes for a *great* relationship!!! ;)

Nikkix

 

Oh crud!

Posted by willow on February 11, 2001, at 17:21:08

In reply to Willow » willow, posted by Rzip on February 11, 2001, at 9:56:25

All afternoon I've been taking little stints, meanwhile offline, writing a reponse. Probably my lengthiest piece. I noticed a spelling error so I thought I'd go back and correct it. The whole thing was gone.

Has this happened to anyone else?
Oh, well from now on the typos remain ...

WEEPING WILLOW

 

RZIP : ) , Allisonm , and others ...

Posted by willow on February 11, 2001, at 18:22:05

In reply to Willow » willow, posted by Rzip on February 11, 2001, at 9:56:25

"(if I am still alive)"

How old are you, if this isn't too personal of a question? Once my children realized that people don't live forever they became quite concerned. I later told them they would probably live to 120, because of all the gains in medical knowledge. For you if you're in your 20's it's probably around 100. Still alot of living!

" ... presynaptic regions for serotonin reuptake. SSRI= Selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors."

I still don't really understand what SSRI really means and in my present condition the how and why doesn't concern me as much as that it does work.

"Case in point: I do not feel secure in taking psychiatric meds."

I don't blame you. I think it would be arrogant on our part to think we understand everything about how medications interact with our bodies. For myself the present is more pressing than the future or the benefits are outweighing the risks. This is what Allisonm was getting at I think.

"Once I figure out what those people lack (attention needy, power needy, lonliness, for instance), I find that I can interact with them a whole lot better by giving them leeways on those exact issues."

Now this is an example of insight. I too starting doing this but I have a problem with verbal diarrhea. I'm learning to think a little quieter now.

"It is very dis-satisfying to realize that this person who connect so well to you internally and during sessions can not be your friend in the everyday sense."

Yes, but are they being totally honest of their thoughts in a session or are they programmed this way through their training?


 

Re: RZIP : ) , Allisonm , and others ... » willow

Posted by allisonm on February 11, 2001, at 20:01:18

In reply to RZIP : ) , Allisonm , and others ..., posted by willow on February 11, 2001, at 18:22:05


> " ... presynaptic regions for serotonin reuptake. SSRI= Selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors."
>
> I still don't really understand what SSRI really means and in my present condition the how and why doesn't concern me as much as that it does work.

When serotonin is produced, it stays in your brain for a certain amount of time before it is disposed of (reuptake). SSRIs delay the reuptake of serotonin, causing more serotonin to be in your brain at any given time, causing an elevated mood.

> > For myself the present is more pressing than the future or the benefits are outweighing the risks. This is what Allisonm was getting at I think.< <

You said succinctly in one sentence what I wasted many paragraphs trying to say. Thank you.

>
> Yes, but are they being totally honest of their thoughts in a session or are they programmed this way through their training?< <

That's a good question. I wish you hadn't asked it. I want to think that my pdoc likes talking to me and isn't faking that, but who knows when you're operating in the valley of "unconditional positive regard?"

 

Re: RZIP : ) , Allisonm , and others ...

Posted by willow on February 11, 2001, at 21:37:20

In reply to Re: RZIP : ) , Allisonm , and others ... » willow, posted by allisonm on February 11, 2001, at 20:01:18

"When serotonin is produced, it stays in your brain for a certain amount of time before it is disposed of (reuptake). SSRIs delay the reuptake of serotonin, causing more serotonin to be in your brain at any given time, causing an elevated mood."

Okay I can understand that, but does the medication have serotonin in it? And what is serotonin? And why isn't effexor an SSRI?

PS You explained the SSRI thing so that I could understand, hope you don't mind the added questions.

"I wish you hadn't asked it."

Sorry Allisonm! My husband and I were enjoying popcorn one night, funds were tight. He was so enjoying it and what blurts out of my mouth? It sure isn't our favourite take-out pizza. If looks could kill I wouldn't be writing now! :(

"I want to think that my pdoc likes talking to me and isn't faking that, ... "

Me too! That's what bothers me about the whole thing. Before I had let a cuss slip meanwhile I was zapping away. I immediately covered my mouth and apologized. He had questioned how comfortable and open I was. At the time I had questioned who would be comfortable talking about themselves to a complete stranger? (Which he really isn't in a way. He was affiliated with the psychologist I saw as a teenager and this is the one of the reasons I chose him out of the three licenced ones here in town. He already knew my history. It's not something that I talk about to acquaintances even.) Anyway, so I start opening up and he acts interested etc, but the psych isn't a friend, right? It adds confusing emotions into an already confused mind.

Maybe I'm "analyzing" too much into it? Maybe I should just enjoy it as it is?

 

Re: what's the documented t-shirt phenomenon? (nm) » julesvox

Posted by Rzip on February 11, 2001, at 23:34:05

In reply to what's the documented t-shirt phenomenon? (nm) » Rzip, posted by julesvox on February 11, 2001, at 13:53:38

> what's the documented t-shirt phenomenon you mentioned earlier?

Staff in the inpatients (crisis intervention) ward should not wear ties, shirts with lots of buttons, or necklaces. Patients who are violent going into lock-down/seclusion rooms tend to grab at the staff's clothing. Hence to avoid a choking hazard, staff members there are encouraged to wear T-shirts.

- Rzip

 

Re: Rzip » allisonm

Posted by Rzip on February 11, 2001, at 23:38:39

In reply to Rzip, posted by allisonm on February 11, 2001, at 12:22:33

Yeah, the medicine issue is a big internal struggle for me. Right now, I plan to just stick with talking therapy. We'll see.

Thanks,
Rzip

 

Re: RZIP : ) , Allisonm , and others ... » willow

Posted by Rzip on February 12, 2001, at 0:10:48

In reply to Re: RZIP : ) , Allisonm , and others ..., posted by willow on February 11, 2001, at 21:37:20


> does the medication have serotonin in it? And what is serotonin?

The SSRI medications do not have serotonin in it. It blocks the reuptake of serotonin in the bridge between pre-synapsis and post-synapsis. It's kind of hard to explain, but I'll try. See, serotonin (which is a neurotransmitter-- think of it as a baseball).

In this game, you have a toss machine (pre-synapsis); 10 baseballs (serotonin neurotransmitter); 5 kids who runs around and picks up the balls that were not caught by the catcher (the reuptake mechanism-- area of interest); and finally, the catcher (post-synapsis). So, usually the kids are supposed to pick up the baseballs and put them back into the toss machine. However, one day a clown came into town and started engaging the kids in games, so the kids neglected their baseball duties. The clown in this analogy is the SSRI's. They prevent the reuptake of the serotonin (baseball). So, now you have more baseballs lying in the playfield and the analogy falls apart here :-(

O.K. scientifically, the serotonin lying in the "baseball playfield" is associated with mood upswing. So, that is why SSRI are good anti-depressants; they allow the serotonin to float in the "playfield". Selective Serotonin Reuptake Inhibitor = SSRI. Does that help?


> Maybe I'm "analyzing" too much into it? Maybe I should just enjoy it as it is?

Analyze at your leisure. If it stops being pleasant, just stop analyzing. In general, IMO, therapy is supposed to make you more insightful and thought-provoking. Thinking is good. But, too much internal thoughts and over-imagination as in MY case, is bad. How does the saying go? Avoid too much of a good thing, exercise moderation...

- Rzip

 

Re: RZIP : ) , Allisonm , and others ... » willow

Posted by dj on February 12, 2001, at 1:26:46

In reply to Re: RZIP : ) , Allisonm , and others ..., posted by willow on February 11, 2001, at 21:37:20

> > the psych isn't a friend, right? It adds confusing emotions into an already confused mind.
>
> Maybe I'm "analyzing" too much into it? Maybe >I should just enjoy it as it is?

Contrary to RZip's comments my interpretation would be that your comment above is dead on. The point is to feel the feelings, not to think the feelings. To acknowledge them, to consider them, to enjoy them but not to obsess about them and what happened or did not happen.

A very good group facilitator whom I know and respects once told some friends and I the story about how when she realized she was warm for her therapist's form (ie. - she was having fantasies about her relationship with him, a very nice and reputable guy, whom I also know) and decided to tell him as much during their session. He looked at her, commented: "How nice for you." and the session continued or ended as per usual.

She was pissed at him for awhile until she decided he was right and decided to enjoy her fantasies, as such. How nice for her, as she came to appreciate things as they were, not as she wished they were...!

 

Re: seeing therapist outside of work

Posted by coral on February 12, 2001, at 7:32:45

In reply to Re: RZIP : ) , Allisonm , and others ... » willow, posted by allisonm on February 11, 2001, at 20:01:18

Re: Seeing your therapist in a social setting outside of work - I don't know about other states but in Michigan, if your therapist sees you first, he/she isn't allowed to even greet you, unless you greet them first. It's their professional code of ethics. I ran into my therapist at a store check-out line. He saw me, did a double-take and said, "Hi," then, he blushed.... paid for his purchases and left. I was seeing him that day and he apologized for speaking to me. I was floored. He explained the state's code of ethics and the intentional non-recognition is for the privacy of the client.

 

Re: seeing therapist outside of work

Posted by allisonm on February 12, 2001, at 8:09:08

In reply to Re: seeing therapist outside of work, posted by coral on February 12, 2001, at 7:32:45

As I was boarding a plane with my husband three years ago, I saw my psychiatrist already seated farther back. I did a double-take, froze and stared, looked at the man he was seated with, looked back at him, then nodded once. He nodded once in reply, and that was it. I was mortified for most of the rest of the flight.

I have wondered about who his traveling companion was. I am quite sure they were traveling together because they were the only ones seated back there and were sitting together. He was on his way to Nassau on vacation.

I wish I hadn't seen him outside of the office. It raised too many questions in my mind and has been a distraction.


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