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Posted by star008 on November 30, 2007, at 18:10:28
Just complaining.. Got a new med. Made me sick, I don't want to take it anymore.. I am tired and discouraged.. Been in therapy for years and years, taken every med out there and still I am depressed..What is with that?? More of the same.. Sometimes I look forward and all I see is more of the same.. It is awfully discouraging..
Posted by lovelorn on November 30, 2007, at 18:53:37
In reply to tired discouraged))complaining;(, posted by star008 on November 30, 2007, at 18:10:28
Wow. Years and years and you still suffer. I am sorry to read that. I know with depression, and for some, it can be a lifelong affliction. What does your T say when you tell her your feelings of discouragement? I know when I go through periods of feeling discouraged of whether I will ever feel right or fix myself, I tackle it head on in my next therapy session. Usually I state the feeling and out comes stuff associated with it, the issues that still have to be resolved. I go away feeling I've gotten just a bit better and it comes back less or different another time. My advice would be tackle the feeling head on in your next session and see what comes associated with the feelings of discouragement and hopefully that will give an answer and help you see some possible change you can for a better outlook.
Posted by rskontos on November 30, 2007, at 18:56:27
In reply to tired discouraged))complaining;(, posted by star008 on November 30, 2007, at 18:10:28
What is it. Dont you need to give it time to adjust.
I am sorry star that you are having a tough time. But I have been there and I know the ups an ddown of it hurts. I have only been in therapy for a short time but knowing how bad I am I sometimes think I will not be better. And if one more relative tells me to be happy I will scream. Happiness is not something to BE. It is the pursiut of happiness this country was founded on not the being of it. And Aristotle's ideas of happiness in a nutshell are a process that takes alot and you might achieve it and probably won't unless you are heck of a person [my unphilosphic (new word I created) interpretation of his views]. So you can't just be it (happy). I stopped my med for depression and I feel better. Go figure. But I don't think SSRI's are for my system. Just a hunch no scientific fact.
So where do you go from here star? I think you have offered a lot of insight to others. I hope that helps or at the very least a diversion. Often I used babble as a diversion. But more than thought I have had loads of insight from others perspectives. So hang in there.....if a laugh might help go to Social at the bottom and look at those videos posted by PhoenixGirl. They are so funny I howled. Sometimes a good laugh is in order....take care of yourself Star. We all need each other to get through the next few weeks....rk
Posted by star008 on November 30, 2007, at 19:44:00
In reply to Re: tired discouraged))complaining;( » star008, posted by lovelorn on November 30, 2007, at 18:53:37
I have brought up the issue of being so discouraged before.. many times over the years.. I get sympathy from my T and maybe some understanding but it doesn't change anything, He says we go at the rate we go at and that is all there is to it.. I try to tell him how truly awful it is but really. he doesn't have any way of fixing anything anyway. thx for listening
Posted by star008 on November 30, 2007, at 19:51:52
In reply to Re: tired discouraged))complaining;(, posted by rskontos on November 30, 2007, at 18:56:27
No idea where to go from here... Just keep getting on..There are no answers for me now. I would be content just to get my meds in order so I am not always so depressed..They keep wanting to shock me and I keep saying no.. there is no way I can do that and work. and besides I have no one to drive me and look after me.. I don't want to be happy , just content would be nice. Just "not" depressed would be nice. I have been in therapy many years. I went on Remeron and have felt terrible for two days.. so tired. and feeling a little high and a little sick.. Yes, they need time to adjust but I don't think I can tolerate this one.
I try to offer here what I have learned over my years of therapy so that someone might understand better what they are going through.. It is a diversion Maybe good to quit thinking about ME..lol
Posted by lovelorn on November 30, 2007, at 21:34:15
In reply to Re: tired discouraged))complaining;( » lovelorn, posted by star008 on November 30, 2007, at 19:44:00
Hmmm. Well, tea and sympathy are nice but not solutions. Hopefully when you next talk with your T you can ask if he/she has any tools or a perspective to offer to deal with the feeling.
Posted by rskontos on November 30, 2007, at 21:54:27
In reply to Re: tired discouraged))complaining;( » star008, posted by lovelorn on November 30, 2007, at 21:34:15
I wonder if that new med is making you feel worse. I don't know about it but sometimes when you feel so bad it makes everything seem worse. What I read about says the effects when you first take it go away after a few days and are suppose to less than with most AD. It sounds more promising than most. Have you check the meds boards to see if anyone is on it and what they have to say about how long to expect before it takes effect? It might make a difference if you know there is a light at the end of tunnel. Or if they say get off that nasty stuff.
Again, I am sorry you feel so low :(
I have gotten that same response from T and felt exactly the same way like she did not realize how bad it was. They must have gone to the same T school :) LOL. It must be T talk for we got to work it out ourselves :(
2 steps forward 1 step back is how it feels sometimes I guess. Some progress but never enough.... it will get better. rk
Posted by Muffled on December 1, 2007, at 14:42:32
In reply to tired discouraged))complaining;(, posted by star008 on November 30, 2007, at 18:10:28
Star, sorry you so discouraged. Its hard. I been feeling that way off and on. I got a new med to try too. Hate meds. Hate that I need them to get by. Its good that you help others, you've said many good things to me that have been helpful.
I'm glad you here at babble. I like your humour!
Guess like my T says, we just keep going...
Take care,
M
Posted by star008 on December 1, 2007, at 22:05:58
In reply to Re: tired discouraged))complaining;(, posted by rskontos on November 30, 2007, at 21:54:27
I have decided that I hate the new med.. It has only been a few days but I don't feel good and am having terrible nightmares..
really bad ones about death and awful things happening to me.. I don't think I will take it any more.. It did make me feel more depressed
Posted by star008 on December 1, 2007, at 22:07:30
In reply to Re: tired discouraged))complaining;( » star008, posted by Muffled on December 1, 2007, at 14:42:32
thanks muffs
Part of it is the new med.. I don't care how long I am supposed to give it.. I am done.. the nightmares are terrible.. No peace when I am awake and terrible things happening in my sleep. I don 't feel good either ;(.. I hate new meds..
Posted by star008 on December 1, 2007, at 22:09:37
In reply to Re: tired discouraged))complaining;( » star008, posted by Muffled on December 1, 2007, at 14:42:32
Posted by star008 on December 2, 2007, at 6:48:45
In reply to Re: tired discouraged))complaining;( » star008, posted by lovelorn on November 30, 2007, at 21:34:15
WEll I have been over this before with him.... I have been discouraged off and on for years.. There really isn't much he can say. There are not any tools that I know of.. It is more like a "wait for it to go away" kind of thing.. I often feel tired and discouraged since it has been such a long road for me.. Med after med, therapy for years and years.. oh well .. thx for your support
Posted by star008 on December 2, 2007, at 7:37:14
In reply to Re: tired discouraged))complaining;( » star008, posted by Muffled on December 1, 2007, at 14:42:32
Muffs,
I tried to respond to your message but forgot to put your name on it.. you'll have to look for it.. sorry..I am okay.. just get discouraged sometimes and remeron makes me feel like sh....t and drunk too..lol.. Not good for work.. I dont' want a buzz unless I want one.. I just don't want to swallow this sh..t anymore..
Posted by star008 on December 2, 2007, at 7:41:06
In reply to Re: tired discouraged))complaining;(, posted by rskontos on November 30, 2007, at 21:54:27
rk,.
don't remember what i wrote earlier.. another side effect..The reviews on Remeron are pretty mixed..works for some but you have to go through a long adjustment period. I slept 23 hours yesterday with my terrible nightmares.. I feel kind of drunk on it and more depressed than I was.
I have been kind of spaced out all day.. It takes forever to wear off.. It just ins't worth it to me to go through this. Almost pulled out in front of someone driving.. thx for listening
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