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Posted by starlight on May 6, 2004, at 11:47:46
Hi All,
Awhile ago I spoke about how I found out that my pdoc had betrayed me and put things in my medical record (which in turn was coded and sent to my insurance company) that he had promised to keep just between us. I work at the same hospital as he does, and had surgery here, so whoever was involved in my care could have read my mental health records as well.Well, now I'm depressed, and have been for several weeks. I just want to sleep, don't want to make music, or go to yoga and I keep thinking that if I can just sleep enough that I'll wake up rested, but I don't. I'm just as tired. Now I'm starting to cry - was crying this morning before work and tears are still seeping through. It sucks. And I can't call him to get a med change, and I don't have anyone else lined up (nor do I want to confide in anyone else at this point) - and I don't know what to do. I'd love to just boost my meds myself, but at the same time, don't want to do that, but need to do something as I've already let this go on for too long.
I will say that a very close friend and well connected practicioner whom I work with has spoken to the hospital ethicist, and they're working on possibly getting the notes expunged from my records. But I just feel so completely betrayed by this. Hurt and ashamed and caught in a conundrum.
starlight
Posted by partlycloudy on May 6, 2004, at 12:50:20
In reply to Remember Me - Terminating Psychiatrist?, posted by starlight on May 6, 2004, at 11:47:46
Hi, Starlight. It does sound like your meds need adjusting (I went through that during the past 2 weeks), and I completely understand your hesitancy in calling your present p-doc. I hesitate to change dosage or anything on my medications, so I would probably look for another p-doc but preface the appointment with your unfortunate experience with your records.
That's what I would do, anyway.
Good luck,
partlycloudy
Posted by judy1 on May 6, 2004, at 17:19:47
In reply to Remember Me - Terminating Psychiatrist?, posted by starlight on May 6, 2004, at 11:47:46
how many meds are you talking about? If it's just an AD, then why not call your GP? I've been terminated twice by pdocs, one a boundary crossing 4 years ago, the other 2 months ago and I'm still very much in pain. As long as your disorder isn't very complex (e.g.- I have treatment resistand bipolar 1, takes about 5 meds to control) most GPs are very comfortable in dealing with depressed patients, and you don't have that messy transference/counter-transference thing going on. best of luck, judy
Posted by starlight on May 6, 2004, at 17:35:38
In reply to Re: Remember Me - Terminating Psychiatrist? ? starlight, posted by judy1 on May 6, 2004, at 17:19:47
He says that I have Bipolar II - but of course since he's such a jerk an untrustworthy I'm not sure if I buy it. From what I understand from a friend of mine who went to see him, he said the same exact thing to her. Right now I'm on Lamictal and Trileptal, but really feel that I likely suffer from depression and probably PTSD.
starlight
Posted by partlycloudy on May 6, 2004, at 17:47:27
In reply to Re: Remember Me - Terminating Psychiatrist?, posted by starlight on May 6, 2004, at 17:35:38
Definitely time to find a new doctor. I'm sure if you tell them what happened with your medical records, you'll get the correct response (like - horror!?!) and the dx and medication you need.
Posted by starlight on May 7, 2004, at 11:15:47
In reply to Re: Remember Me - Terminating Psychiatrist? ? starlight, posted by partlycloudy on May 6, 2004, at 17:47:27
Well, I took the initiative and upped my own lamictal 50 mgs. I had to do something and lamictal makes me feel better pretty quickly. I'm frankly still not sure about the diagnosis of bipolar disorder either.
I have contacted a female Pdoc who my husband's Pdoc recommended. She's outside of my insurance company, so it will cost more, but then she won't have to report anything to them.
I gotta tell you, I'm so angry at this guy it seeps out of my skin. I hope he rots. I said so many times, "this is just between you and me right?" and he always replied "absolutely, or yes" or reassured me that it was. So courtesy of his lies, it's really between me, him, the insurance company, whatever other docs I have here, whatever nurses saw my charts, etc. I keep hoping to see him around here so I can give him the evil eye!
starlight
Posted by shortelise on May 7, 2004, at 11:46:13
In reply to Re: Remember Me - Terminating Psychiatrist?, posted by starlight on May 7, 2004, at 11:15:47
If'n it were me, I'd make an appointment with him and have it out.
Love,
shorte
Posted by starlight on May 7, 2004, at 13:07:20
In reply to Re: Remember Me - Terminating Psychiatrist?, posted by shortelise on May 7, 2004, at 11:46:13
I'd like to confront him, but only with a mediator on hand. My fear is that he will use it as an excuse to put more crap in my record that "confirms" his suspicions. At least if a mediator is there, it might be a little different, maybe. I'd like him to know exactly how much this has impacted me and what a terrible doctor I think he is. I have been thinking about that though. I'd also like to report him to the medical board.
starlight
Posted by starlight on May 7, 2004, at 13:13:28
In reply to Re: Remember Me - Terminating Psychiatrist?, posted by shortelise on May 7, 2004, at 11:46:13
You know something else.....I already have huge trust issues with men since my father was so abusive (physical, mental and emotional). So basically he has just reinforced my lack of trust by doing this to me. The female therapist that I had before was aware of my "habits" and never said a thing. I've looked through all of her records on me and she was so trustworthy and competent. The first thing he did was to say that her diagnosis was wrong, but the more I think about it, the more I think he's the one that's wrong.
So, even though my husband's Pdoc gave me the names of 1 woman and 2 men, I can already feel the distrust creeping up, just at the thought of going back to a man. Figures...
starlight
Posted by Dinah on May 7, 2004, at 15:51:51
In reply to Re: Remember Me - Terminating Psychiatrist?, posted by starlight on May 7, 2004, at 13:07:20
Yeah, they hold all the cards, don't they? The biofeedback guy I met with thought *I* was hostile, I thought *he* was hostile. When I pointed that out, he agreed he felt hostility but said he was only reacting to *my* hostility. And I was being waaaay more polite than he was.
Sigh. You just can't win. No matter what you do, they can just cram it into their preconceived notions, and they're the professionals, we're the troubled patients. :(
One of the things I like best about my therapist is that he always admits that the chances are just as good that he's wrong as that I am.
Posted by starlight on May 7, 2004, at 16:51:05
In reply to Re: Remember Me - Terminating Psychiatrist? ? starlight, posted by Dinah on May 7, 2004, at 15:51:51
Sounds like you have a pretty good therapist!
starlight
Posted by starlight on May 11, 2004, at 14:18:07
In reply to Re: Remember Me - Terminating Psychiatrist?, posted by starlight on May 7, 2004, at 16:51:05
I've made a phone call to a new Pdoc who comes highly recommended and is a female. Keep your fingers crossed for me since I do really need some medication adjustments.
I had a really interesting dream last night about the doc who has treated me so badly. I dreamt that I was standing on a wooden deck and he was about 10 feet away and approaching me slowly with this apologetic look in his eyes, behind him was an older grey haired & bearded man (godly archetype) and he too had a look of compassion on his face. As arse hole pdoc approached I kept telling him to stay the heck away from me that he had already done enough damage. I was yelling that I had trusted him and how he violated that trust, he kept coming closer and I told him to stop and when he didn't I jumped over the deck onto the ground and went to this other deck where the scenario started again. And again he had this look on his face like he was really sorry that he had hurt me so badly and I went through the same type of language and again ran as he got closer.
Are you ready for my interpretation? My father was a very authoritarian man - a cop with a vicious temper. He emotionally, mentally and physically abused me. If I was getting a spanking, he would make me pull down my pants & underwear and lay across his lap and he would hit me so hard that I would have dark bruises in the shape of handprints on my butt for days. I would always loose control of my bladder out of pure fear - and that was just spankings, not the times that he would come after me...you get the picture. And when he was done spanking me, he would wait a few minutes and then hold me on his lap, stroke my hair, and tell me how much he loved me and that it hurt him more than it hurt me.
This dream reminded me of that. Interesting eh?
I want to confront him. I've been thinking about it for days. I want him to know that he violated my trust and that I think he's a terrible doctor. I want him to know that he's just reinforced my experience with men of his type, that they're not to be trusted or maybe just plain evil. My yelling at him in the dream seems to confirm this. I do think there should be a mediator there and that it should be set up like a meeting rather than an appointment, so that he doesn't go putting some new note in my chart that I'm now dangerous or confrontational or something stupid. Part of my problem has always been being scared of men like him and my father. It took me until I was 26 years old to finally stand up to my father. It would be good practice!
I want you to know that I appreciate all the support that you guys have given me. I haven't had really anyone else to share this stuff with at this level and believe me, I have needed it! So Thank You All!
starlight
Posted by antigua on May 11, 2004, at 16:40:07
In reply to Re: INTERESTING DREAM - Terminating Psychiatrist?, posted by starlight on May 11, 2004, at 14:18:07
I've also been thinking of confronting a male medical professional who destroyed my trust. I don't think he should get away w/it. My father is dead, so I can't confront him, but maybe I would feel better if I told this guy what I really think about how badly he treats patients.
antigua
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