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Posted by IAMtheWalrus on May 23, 2008, at 11:54:57
God sent the human race what i call good dreams: I mean those strange stories scattered all through the heathen religions about a god who dies and comes to life again, and by his death, has somehow given new life to men.
-W
Posted by Lou Pilder on May 23, 2008, at 17:08:16
In reply to Basic Christianity, posted by IAMtheWalrus on May 23, 2008, at 11:54:57
> God sent the human race what i call good dreams: I mean those strange stories scattered all through the heathen religions about a god who dies and comes to life again, and by his death, has somehow given new life to men.
>
> -WIAMtheWalrus,
You wrote,[...the heathen religions...]
I am unsure as to what you are wanting to mean here. Could you identify the criteria that you use to denote as to if a relgion is a heathen religion or not? If you could, then I could have the opportunity to respond accordingly.
Lou
Posted by Sigismund on May 24, 2008, at 5:38:27
In reply to Basic Christianity, posted by IAMtheWalrus on May 23, 2008, at 11:54:57
Which religions had the story of a god who dies for his people?
The Mithraic something or other??
('Heathen' was once a negative description, in the heyday of imperialism (perhaps I am mistaken to believe that is in the past?) but there is no reason the feel so.
The history of Christianity and of the secular ideologies that retained those habits of thought make heathens seem quite attractive to me.)
Posted by IAMtheWalrus on May 24, 2008, at 16:34:59
In reply to Re: Basic Christianity, posted by Sigismund on May 24, 2008, at 5:38:27
> Which religions had the story of a god who dies for his people?
>CHRISTIANITY!
Posted by Sigismund on May 24, 2008, at 17:16:38
In reply to Re: Basic Christianity » Sigismund, posted by IAMtheWalrus on May 24, 2008, at 16:34:59
Well, yes, I knew that, but I was hoping to learn more.
Posted by IAMtheWalrus on May 25, 2008, at 11:07:30
In reply to Re: Basic Christianity » IAMtheWalrus, posted by Sigismund on May 24, 2008, at 17:16:38
> Well, yes, I knew that, but I was hoping to learn more.
Jesus is God incarnate and he took all the worlds sin apon Himself-died on the cross, reuniting God the Father and all of mankind. He put to death the sting of sin, shed his own blood, so that man could have a relationship with God the Father. The Bible says all the fullness of the deity lives in Jesus, making Him God.
-W
Posted by IAMtheWalrus on May 25, 2008, at 12:12:31
In reply to Re: Basic Christianity » Sigismund, posted by IAMtheWalrus on May 25, 2008, at 11:07:30
> > Well, yes, I knew that, but I was hoping to learn more.
>
> Jesus is God incarnate and he took all the worlds sin apon Himself-died on the cross, reuniting God the Father and all of mankind. He put to death the sting of sin, shed his own blood, so that man could have a relationship with God the Father. The Bible says all the fullness of the deity lives in Jesus, making Him God.
>
> -WChristianity is based on the promise of the coming of the Messiah, God's own Son who would come, live a sinless life, and then sacrifice His life by dieing on a cross so that man's relationship with God the Father could be restored. The Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit (the Trinity) are considered all equally God, with different purposes. Jesus died on the cross, and rose to life again on the 3rd day just as He said he would. He is now seated at the right hand of the Father in Heaven. A Christian is a person who gives his life to Jesus and as a result his sins are forgiven. When a Christian dies, because of his faith in Jesus, he goes to heaven to live eternally with God in Paradise.
-W
Posted by IAMtheWalrus on May 25, 2008, at 12:15:17
In reply to Lou's request to IAMtheWalrus for identification » IAMtheWalrus, posted by Lou Pilder on May 23, 2008, at 17:08:16
> > God sent the human race what i call good dreams: I mean those strange stories scattered all through the heathen religions about a god who dies and comes to life again, and by his death, has somehow given new life to men.
> >
> > -W
>
> IAMtheWalrus,
> You wrote,[...the heathen religions...]
> I am unsure as to what you are wanting to mean here. Could you identify the criteria that you use to denote as to if a relgion is a heathen religion or not? If you could, then I could have the opportunity to respond accordingly.
> LouI was being sarcastic.
-W
Posted by Dr. Bob on May 30, 2008, at 0:33:40
In reply to Re: Lou's request to IAMtheWalrus for identification » Lou Pilder, posted by IAMtheWalrus on May 25, 2008, at 12:15:17
> I was being sarcastic.
Since the goal here is support and education, I'd appreciate it if you'd refrain from that.
But please don't take this personally, this doesn't mean I don't like you or think you're a bad person.
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Thanks,
Bob
Posted by Sigismund on May 30, 2008, at 0:53:17
In reply to Re: Lou's request to IAMtheWalrus for identification » Lou Pilder, posted by IAMtheWalrus on May 25, 2008, at 12:15:17
Is it Osiris who is also a God who dies for his people?
Posted by rayww on June 1, 2008, at 13:27:09
In reply to Basic Christianity, posted by IAMtheWalrus on May 23, 2008, at 11:54:57
> God sent the human race what i call good dreams: I mean those strange stories scattered all through the heathen religions about a god who dies and comes to life again, and by his death, has somehow given new life to men.
>
> -WI might change the story just a tad to read "by his life, has somehow opened the door to resurrection for all mankind". Jesus came to earth to rescue us from the fall (which brought death into force). Our progress was stopped by death until Jesus paid the price for sin, then by his death, which was voluntary, as he chose when to die, and his resurrection, which he chose and did, he paved the way for all of us to come into the presence of God once again. Basic Christianity is not comprehendable, because we don't have all the facts, and even if we did we wouldn't believe it. Christianity, as someone down the line already said, is unbelievable compared to what we know and experience here, that's why it takes faith in God to believe. Faith can grow and become power.
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