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Posted by cmorhoun on January 27, 2008, at 17:57:03
I'm curius if anyone can speak the the efficacy of St. John Wort in liquid form vs tablet form. It seems to me the liquid form would be more pure and better absorbed, essentially more potent. Any experiences out there?
Posted by bleauberry on January 29, 2008, at 17:33:30
In reply to SJW Liquid for vs tablet form, posted by cmorhoun on January 27, 2008, at 17:57:03
You could go to www.sjwinfo.org and search the archives there. It is a sjw forum with hundreds of people in the archives. I've seen most everything that is there.
I do remember one or two people saying they liked their liquid sjw. But for the most part, the consensus is to use standardized pills or capsules to get a relatively equal dose each time. With liquid there could be a great deal of variability from one batch to the next or one bottle to the next. The contents of liquids are not standardized or guaranteed. You don't know what you are getting. It all depends on the quality of the harvest that was soaked in alcohol to make that bottle.
Even with pills or capsules it is a trial and error thing just like with SSRI meds. Some people do great on high hyperforin brands and others become suicidal on them. Some people do great on high hypericin low hyperforin brands while others get no effect.
When a good brand is found that works for you, then what can also make a huge difference in how it works is whether you take it in the morning or at night, or whether you take it all in one dose or whether you spread it out over the day. These things make huge differences for a lot of people.
Just like meds, sjw can poopout. Just the opposite of logic, experienced sjw users have discovered that the way to correct poopout is to lower the dose.
So, it aint as easy as liquid versus pills. You just have to start somewhere and do trial and error, and hopefully get it right the first time. With liquid you are probably getting a wider spectrum of what the plant has, but you don't have any idea what it is from bottle to bottle. With pills you have a more accurate idea, though not completely accurate, of what you are getting.
All the clinical studies on sjw have used one these three brands:
Kira
Perika
RemotivNone used liquids.
Posted by cmorhoun on February 1, 2008, at 9:45:30
In reply to Re: SJW Liquid for vs tablet form, posted by bleauberry on January 29, 2008, at 17:33:30
Yah, I've spent a lot of time on sjwinfo lately, not much pertaining to liquid dosing.
I was curious what brands were used in the "research". I find it very interesting that no liquids have been used. It seems to me a liquid form would be far more pure/effective and even more consistant. I've certainly found it more potent than the tablet form. Just started it and anxious to see where it leads.
Posted by Kath on February 1, 2008, at 20:23:05
In reply to Re: SJW Liquid for vs tablet form, posted by cmorhoun on February 1, 2008, at 9:45:30
I was taking Vogel liquid SJW & then another tincture by another company. Now am taking powder in a capsule.
I haven't noticed any difference between them.
I do notice during the day if I "need" one. I start to feel a certain way; slightly anxious - take one & it helps. Mind you, I'm now taking 5HTP also, but even before that I could notice when I needed some SJW.
I have 1 of each on bedside table with water, to take in the early hours (say 4 or 5) if I wake up. That way it can 'kick in' before morning. Morning, before I get out of bed can be really a bad time.
Good luck, KathPS - I've recently added selenium & folic acid.
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