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Posted by ExcellentCamper on March 13, 2006, at 21:21:56
Anyone have any experience combining these two? I've used 150mg of Lamictal for the last year with some success for unipolar depression. It gets me to about the 65 percent level -- passing but not thriving. I'm trying to augment to increase energy, clarity and motivation. Low-dose selegeline and Cymbalta were the latest casualties in my continuing drug skirmishes. Now I'm really focusing in on Picamilon, the nootropic (smart drug) developed in Russia, consisting of niacin bonded to GABA. My only concern is that Lamictal increases GABA (an inhibitory neurotransmitter) which blocks glutamate. Could I potentially end up with too much GABA and become overly relaxed and sedated? Sages and chairmen of the board please respond.
Posted by linkadge on March 13, 2006, at 21:21:57
In reply to Lamictal, Picamilon and the GABA link, posted by ExcellentCamper on March 12, 2006, at 18:15:50
I've got one word for you, and I don't want any aruments....folic-acid 1mg, taken in the morning.
I've been promoting folic acid supplementation for anticonvustant partial responders.
Linkadge
Posted by Chairman_MAO on March 13, 2006, at 21:21:57
In reply to Lamictal, Picamilon and the GABA link, posted by ExcellentCamper on March 12, 2006, at 18:15:50
No, picamilon is hardly GABAnergic at all.
Be careful with it. It is not toxic, but you can end up more agitated than a load of laundry if you overdo it.
Posted by ClearSkies on March 13, 2006, at 21:21:57
In reply to Re: Lamictal, Picamilon and the GABA link » ExcellentCamper, posted by Chairman_MAO on March 12, 2006, at 21:59:07
> Be careful with it. It is not toxic, but you can end up more agitated than a load of laundry if you overdo it.Wow, what a quotable phrase! What a great characterization of agitation... thanks.
ClearSkies
Posted by ed_uk on March 13, 2006, at 21:21:57
In reply to Re: Lamictal, Picamilon and the GABA link, posted by ClearSkies on March 13, 2006, at 13:44:12
Picamilon didn't do anything for me. NADA. A friend said it made him agitated though.
Ed
Posted by Michael Bell on March 13, 2006, at 21:21:57
In reply to Lamictal, Picamilon and the GABA link, posted by ExcellentCamper on March 12, 2006, at 18:15:50
>Liked Picamilon on its own, not sure I liked Lamictal with it. Picamilon releived SP by about 30%, not bad at all for a supplement. But results could be more consistent.
> Anyone have any experience combining these two? I've used 150mg of Lamictal for the last year with some success for unipolar depression. It gets me to about the 65 percent level -- passing but not thriving. I'm trying to augment to increase energy, clarity and motivation. Low-dose selegeline and Cymbalta were the latest casualties in my continuing drug skirmishes. Now I'm really focusing in on Picamilon, the nootropic (smart drug) developed in Russia, consisting of niacin bonded to GABA. My only concern is that Lamictal increases GABA (an inhibitory neurotransmitter) which blocks glutamate. Could I potentially end up with too much GABA and become overly relaxed and sedated? Sages and chairmen of the board please respond.
>
Posted by ExcellentCamper on March 13, 2006, at 21:21:57
In reply to Re: Lamictal, Picamilon and the GABA link » ExcellentCamper, posted by Michael Bell on March 13, 2006, at 14:23:50
> >Liked Picamilon on its own, not sure I liked Lamictal with it. Picamilon releived SP by about 30%, not bad at all for a supplement. But results could be more consistent.Michael, what's SP? And do you remember at all why you didn't like the combination?
Thanks, Will
Posted by ExcellentCamper on March 13, 2006, at 21:21:57
In reply to Re: Lamictal, Picamilon and the GABA link » ExcellentCamper, posted by Michael Bell on March 13, 2006, at 14:23:50
Also, Michael, I noticed that you were really enthusiastic on the Picamilon back in your 2003 posts. Did the effects wear off? Did you take days off, and if so how many might be a good idea?I'm very eager to find something or a combination of things that helps supply me the energy, calm and clarity to function better, and feel as though I'm running out of options (drugs and supplements) so am hoping this really does something for me. I ordered a bulk 2-month supply today for a little over $15 today, including shipping, which could be real advantage over my $50 co-pay for Lamictal.
Regards, Will
Posted by Sobriquet Style on March 14, 2006, at 7:43:27
In reply to Re: Lamictal, Picamilon and the GABA link, posted by ExcellentCamper on March 13, 2006, at 17:43:48
>I ordered a bulk 2-month supply today for a little over $15 today, including shipping
Just to let you know, I've replied to you on alternative...
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Posted by Sobriquet Style on March 14, 2006, at 7:51:29
In reply to Re: Lamictal, Picamilon and the GABA link, posted by ExcellentCamper on March 13, 2006, at 17:43:48
>Just to let you know, I've replied to you on alternative...
Sorry about that, I wrote the post on the medications board, but because of the redirect it some how flew over here.
I ordered a bulk 2-month supply today for a little over $15 today, including shipping..
I wondered where you got Picamilon from, as thats an extreamly good price and I've recently purchased some but couldn't get it that cheap!
Could you provide me a link?
Many thanks if you can :-)
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Posted by blueberry on March 15, 2006, at 20:27:21
In reply to Lamictal, Picamilon and the GABA link, posted by ExcellentCamper on March 12, 2006, at 18:15:50
I tried picamilon just once and it was so weird. I tried two ultra small doses spaced a few hours apart being careful. It actually brought me close to a panic attack. And for some strange reason it made me have to go pee about every 15 minutes all day. No relaxation from it at all. Then the next day I woke up feeling like I had lost some of my memory, couldn't remember what day it was, foggy, felt stupid.
Posted by ExcellentCamper on March 16, 2006, at 23:31:53
In reply to Re: Lamictal, Picamilon and the GABA link » ExcellentCamper, posted by Sobriquet Style on March 14, 2006, at 7:51:29
Sorry not to reply sooner, Sobriquet. I think I hesitated to respond because I wasn't sure if the rules here permit us to give Web sites. Maybe I'm being too cautious! But anyhow if you do a search for "Greenville, ME supplements," you will pull up the company. The name of the company is a reference to living to a ripe old age, more than 100 years old. I expect to get my Picamilon on Friday. If all goes as the people on this board have said, I will either feel like I have a new lease on life or like I have a bladder infection. I'm hoping for the former. Thanks to all for your feedback!ExcellentCamper
Posted by Sobriquet Style on March 17, 2006, at 8:47:01
In reply to Picamilon source, posted by ExcellentCamper on March 16, 2006, at 23:31:53
>Sorry not to reply sooner, Sobriquet. I think I hesitated to respond because I wasn't sure if the rules here permit us to give Web sites.
No problem. I also hesitated in asking :-)
>But anyhow if you do a search for "Greenville, ME supplements,"
Thank you - that website has some extreamly low priced products.. :-)
>If all goes as the people on this board have said, I will either feel like I have a new lease on life or like I have a bladder infection.I hope bladder infection isn't a potential side effect?
I hope it works well for you....I will be recieving some soon myself, hopefully I will be able to report back positive results.
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Posted by Tony P on April 2, 2006, at 4:49:30
In reply to Lamictal, Picamilon and the GABA link, posted by ExcellentCamper on March 12, 2006, at 18:15:50
I recently tried Picamilon several times while on Lamictal 200 mg/day and experienced nothing. I have a theory that Lamictal blocks or reduces the effects of some AD enhancers. I have just gone off lamictal as an experiment, so it seems a good time to give the picamilon another trial. I also have DMAE and Galantamine for trial -- not much effect while I was on the Lamictal.
1) should I expect an immediate effect from the picamilon or ??
2) any suggestions as to the other two supplements?
2) what doses should I take to really get a noticeable effect (I have picamilon 100 mg, DMAE 100 mg, galantamine 8mg)Tony
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