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Posted by Terry on May 3, 2005, at 15:22:02
Has anyone heard of fish oil causing anxiety. I had a problem with really severe anxiety along with depression. I finally got the anxiety under control by taking 3mg of klonipin per day for a while and then tapering off, but I can still feel the anxiety in the background at times but not bad enough to medicate since klonipin can increase my depression. Several things can trigger the anxiety and cause it to come back completely temperarily though. Fish oil is one of the things that I've learned to avoid because it seems to cause anxiety to return. Has anyone had a problem with fish oil causing anxiety or making it worse?
Terry
Posted by tealady on May 4, 2005, at 4:27:06
In reply to Fish oil, anxiety, posted by Terry on May 3, 2005, at 15:22:02
Posted by Declan on May 5, 2005, at 1:54:23
In reply to Fish oil, anxiety, posted by Terry on May 3, 2005, at 15:22:02
Really? That's a worry.
Posted by Cairo on May 6, 2005, at 5:33:25
In reply to Re: Fish oil, anxiety, posted by Declan on May 5, 2005, at 1:54:23
Why would fish oil increase anxiety? Any thoughts?
Cairo
Posted by tealady on May 7, 2005, at 17:05:57
In reply to Re: Fish oil, anxiety, posted by Cairo on May 6, 2005, at 5:33:25
> Why would fish oil increase anxiety? Any thoughts?
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> Cairo
I tried to find some reasons here
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/alter/20050323/msgs/478315.html
and rest of thread
I'm definitely a lot better OFF fish oil. My anxiety has stopped..that was a bad 18 mths or so on the fish oil. I don't feel like I'm suffering from that oxidation or peroxynitrates etc now either.
Just found out last night where melantonin mught help with the problem though..so thinking about it.
I've always felt I was not able to get enough oxygen like..I think it all fits in.tea
Posted by Sarah T. on May 8, 2005, at 1:41:55
In reply to Fish oil, anxiety, posted by Terry on May 3, 2005, at 15:22:02
I've heard that both fish oil and flax oil can cause anxiety in some people. Does anyone know the mechanism? How do fish oil and flax oil cause anxiety? And do those oils cause anxiety by themselves, or does the anxiety occur only when the oils are combined with other medications?
Posted by linkadge on May 8, 2005, at 4:17:45
In reply to How does fish oil cause anxiety?, posted by Sarah T. on May 8, 2005, at 1:41:55
Fish oil can significanltly increase dopamine levels. Some people's anxiety is dopamine sensitive.
Fish oil never increased my physical anxiety, but had the capacity to increase my mental anxiety when taken in large doses. I think this is an indication of dopaminergic involvement.
AP's eliminated the anxiety produced by too much fish oil, but beta blockers (which helped my physical anxiety) never changed fish oil's effect.
Note. Low doses of fish oil undoubtedly decreased my anxiety. INcreased anxiety only happened at 2+ grams of DHA.
Also note, the DHA rich oils seemed to produce more anxiety, and the EPA oils produced little.
Linkadge
Posted by Sarah T. on May 8, 2005, at 17:58:44
In reply to Re: How does fish oil cause anxiety?, posted by linkadge on May 8, 2005, at 4:17:45
Hi, Linkage.
Thanks for that information. By the way, which beta blockers did you take? From your comments, I see they helped your physical anxiety. Did the beta blockers increase your depression at all?
Posted by linkadge on May 8, 2005, at 18:12:16
In reply to Re: How does fish oil cause anxiety? » linkadge, posted by Sarah T. on May 8, 2005, at 17:58:44
I was taking atenolol. It didn't really increase the sadness of depression but did seem to decrease the energy and motivation. Kind of made me feel really incapable.
Linkadge
Posted by MoparFan91 on May 9, 2005, at 19:12:20
In reply to Re: How does fish oil cause anxiety?, posted by linkadge on May 8, 2005, at 4:17:45
If anxiety is a problem with fish oil, would adding some Taurine help counteract it?
I take 9,000mg of EPA/DHA combo per day in 3 divided doses (30 fish oil capsules total). I get 5,400mg of EPA and 3,600mg of DHA per day. Don't know if it increases anxiety or not.
> Fish oil can significanltly increase dopamine levels. Some people's anxiety is dopamine sensitive.
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> Fish oil never increased my physical anxiety, but had the capacity to increase my mental anxiety when taken in large doses. I think this is an indication of dopaminergic involvement.
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> AP's eliminated the anxiety produced by too much fish oil, but beta blockers (which helped my physical anxiety) never changed fish oil's effect.
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> Note. Low doses of fish oil undoubtedly decreased my anxiety. INcreased anxiety only happened at 2+ grams of DHA.
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> Also note, the DHA rich oils seemed to produce more anxiety, and the EPA oils produced little.
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> Linkadge
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Posted by linkadge on May 9, 2005, at 19:31:12
In reply to Re: How does fish oil cause anxiety?, posted by MoparFan91 on May 9, 2005, at 19:12:20
That is what I was going to reccoment. Taurine is also found in fish is it not ?
I have found it very effective at eliminating and anxiety caused by fish oil. The two work with great synergy.
Linkadge
Posted by MoparFan91 on May 9, 2005, at 21:00:42
In reply to Re: How does fish oil cause anxiety?, posted by linkadge on May 9, 2005, at 19:31:12
How much Taurine are you taking?
I'm currently trying 1,500mg (500mg 3xday) of Taurine to help get rid of this anxiety and hopefully help even out moods. I have mucho anxiety problems (specifically about my appearance/weight and comparing myself others).
Dr. Stoll also says that Taurine has good benefits for bipolar rapid cyclers.
What's the most Taurine I can take? Taurine seems to be el cheapo.
> That is what I was going to reccoment. Taurine is also found in fish is it not ?
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> I have found it very effective at eliminating and anxiety caused by fish oil. The two work with great synergy.
>
> Linkadge
Posted by linkadge on May 10, 2005, at 16:02:39
In reply to Re: How does fish oil cause anxiety? » linkadge, posted by MoparFan91 on May 9, 2005, at 21:00:42
I would assume a coulple grams a day would not pose a problem, but I don't know an upper tollerable limit.
Yeah, I have the feeling that tauring + fish oil would be an extremely healthy (for heart esp) and effective alternative treatment for bipolar disorder.
Linkadge
Posted by Nettie on May 10, 2005, at 16:14:02
In reply to Re: How does fish oil cause anxiety?, posted by linkadge on May 10, 2005, at 16:02:39
Now I'm really confused! Read something earlier today about fish oil (or the EPAs in it) being helpful for depression and was looking on here to see if anyone knew anything about this like how much to take and whether flaxseed (linseed) oil would be good instead (as I am vegetarian). Now I find out that it causes anxiety .... ?
Posted by kendygrl228 on May 23, 2008, at 18:35:06
In reply to Re: How does fish oil cause anxiety?, posted by Nettie on May 10, 2005, at 16:14:02
I have just begun taking a fish oil supplement and this is the first time I have ever heard of it doing anything other than decreasing anxiety and depression. Could it be that these people are taking omega 6 and not omega 3?
Posted by kendygrl228 on May 23, 2008, at 19:29:42
In reply to Re: How does fish oil cause anxiety?, posted by kendygrl228 on May 23, 2008, at 18:35:06
Could it be that these people are consuming too much of the omega 6 which I have read can promote inflammation? I have also read that the more omega-6 fatty acids people had in their blood compared with omega-3 fatty acid levels(which have been said to reduce inflammation), the more likely they were to suffer from depression. Perhaps the consumption of omega 3 and omega 6 need to be properly balanced in order to produce better results.
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