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question on fish oil and allergies. Please help.

Posted by jeffreyms on February 13, 2005, at 20:54:04

Hello!
I am new to this board but have read a lot of posts and it seems to be a very helpful frendly resource so I thought would join.
To get straight to the point, I have depression, gad, and bad fatigue that has all been agrivated by the recent death of my father to brain cancer at 57 and having to switch to third shift at work. I also was tested for food and inhalent allergies and was found to be allergic to every food tested and most inhalents. I was told to try eating things that i normaly don't eat so i began eating tuna every day and when i got tested for that after eating it every day with a patch test i had a huge blister on my arm i was so allergic to it. so i learned i have to rotate things that i eat to lesson the chances of getting allergic/more allergic to them. I noticed that when i eat catfish cooked with olive oil or take salmon fish oil caps i feel much more relaxed and seem to feel less depressed and more energetic but it only seems to last anywhere from 2-8 hours. Does anyone else have this type of situation or could anyone offer some advice on what to do? I'm afraid if i take to much of the salmon oil or any kind of fish oil that i will get allergic to it so I am going to try to get fish oil from different types of fish and rotate them but i'm still afraid of getting allergic to them. some of the symptoms i get of food allergies is more fatigue and depression so that would be counterproductive. But i think if i can find a good fish oil regime it will improve my allergies and other problems. Sorry for the long post thank you VERY much for any advice and good luck to all of you. Jeff

 

Re: question on fish oil and allergies. Please help.

Posted by Jai Narayan on February 13, 2005, at 22:23:59

In reply to question on fish oil and allergies. Please help., posted by jeffreyms on February 13, 2005, at 20:54:04

Hi jeff,
I am so glad to see you can post on this site.

I have lots of allergies as well. Have you ever heard of Activated Quercetin by Source Naturals? It's a non-citrus bioflavonoid....helps with allergies. I have used this when it gets bad.
I use blue green algea daily to control my allergies.

About your dad, I am so sorry...
I know that must have been traumatic.

my best to you
Jai Narayan


 

Re: question on fish oil and allergies. Please help.

Posted by jeffreyms on February 13, 2005, at 22:51:48

In reply to Re: question on fish oil and allergies. Please help., posted by Jai Narayan on February 13, 2005, at 22:23:59

> Hi jeff,
> I am so glad to see you can post on this site.
>
> I have lots of allergies as well. Have you ever heard of Activated Quercetin by Source Naturals? It's a non-citrus bioflavonoid....helps with allergies. I have used this when it gets bad.
> I use blue green algea daily to control my allergies.
>
> About your dad, I am so sorry...
> I know that must have been traumatic.
>
> my best to you
> Jai Narayan
>
> Hi Jai,
thanks for the kind reply.That's weird that i can't see my posts on the thread. i'll have to figure that one out. I have heard about Quercetin being good for allergies but haven't tried it in a while. Same with blue green algea. I'll have to try those again. Thanks again for confirming that my posts showed up--even though I can't see them--and for the helpful kind response. Jeff
>
>
>

 

Re: question on fish oil and allergies. Please help. » jeffreyms

Posted by Larry Hoover on February 14, 2005, at 7:16:04

In reply to question on fish oil and allergies. Please help., posted by jeffreyms on February 13, 2005, at 20:54:04

> Hello!
> I am new to this board but have read a lot of posts and it seems to be a very helpful frendly resource so I thought would join.
> To get straight to the point, I have depression, gad, and bad fatigue that has all been agrivated by the recent death of my father to brain cancer at 57 and having to switch to third shift at work. I also was tested for food and inhalent allergies and was found to be allergic to every food tested and most inhalents.

What kind of testing, Jeff? There are some purely bogus methods "out there".

> I was told to try eating things that i normaly don't eat so i began eating tuna every day and when i got tested for that after eating it every day with a patch test i had a huge blister on my arm i was so allergic to it.

They did a tuna-specific patch test? If you were truly allergic, you'd have major symptoms from eating it, quite apart from the patch test. Could you describe what you mean by "patch test"?

> so i learned i have to rotate things that i eat to lesson the chances of getting allergic/more allergic to them. I noticed that when i eat catfish cooked with olive oil or take salmon fish oil caps i feel much more relaxed and seem to feel less depressed and more energetic but it only seems to last anywhere from 2-8 hours. Does anyone else have this type of situation or could anyone offer some advice on what to do?

Equating a low omega-3 whole fish (lots of protein) and a pure fat omega-3 source is not an easy thing to do, intellectually. From your description, though, I'd suggest you take multiple doses of the fish oil, to extend the effect throughout your waking hours.

> I'm afraid if i take to much of the salmon oil or any kind of fish oil that i will get allergic to it so I am going to try to get fish oil from different types of fish and rotate them but i'm still afraid of getting allergic to them.

Allergies are always caused by proteins. There's no protein in fish oil.

> some of the symptoms i get of food allergies is more fatigue and depression so that would be counterproductive.

Those are not symptoms of allergic response.

> But i think if i can find a good fish oil regime it will improve my allergies and other problems. Sorry for the long post thank you VERY much for any advice and good luck to all of you. Jeff

Were you tested using an electrodermal device?

Lar

 

Re: question on fish oil and allergies. Please help.

Posted by jeffreyms on February 14, 2005, at 17:15:53

In reply to Re: question on fish oil and allergies. Please help. » jeffreyms, posted by Larry Hoover on February 14, 2005, at 7:16:04

Hi Lar,
thanks for the response.
My allergist wrote several books on was one of the doctors that discovered the type 2 delayed food allergy. Not all allergies are the immidiate type 1 where you immidietely get hives or a headach or whatever. Te patch test is were they put a part of the substance that they are testing you for on part of your body(usually arm or back) along with a liquid that helps the some of the substance disolve into your arm and then you leave it for about 3 days and see if you develop a whelt or blister. I was eating tuna every day and developed the biggest blister to it. I'm not sure if you could define this a a true allergy or just food intolerance or bad reaction to food as i don't think it goes through the same ige channels as a immidiate reaction. At first delayed "allergies" were controversial but now its becoming more and more accepted and many doctors are coming around to the fact that they exist. I know they do for me. If i have a big cup of coffee for instance, i won't have a immidate reaction but for the next couple of days i will be very tired, depressed and achy. I noticed this and also my mother did and she also noticed that after ingesting something i was allergic to i would become much more iriatable and my skin would be very sensitive. she even noticed that when she scratched my back it would leave red marks for a few minutes if i was having a delayed reaction. we both noticed these reaction before i went to the doctor and even heard of delayed reactions so that would pretty much rule out it being psychosomatic. I wish it was so easy as fish oil doesn't contain proteins so i couldn't get allergic to it but as sensitive as i am to everything i would be very much surprised if i didn't. I do understand your skeptisism and if i hadn't lived this myself I might not be sure if i believed in it or not as well. Thank you very much for your response and please forgive all my typos. Jeff

 

question for jeffreyms

Posted by Glydin on February 18, 2005, at 7:46:50

In reply to Re: question on fish oil and allergies. Please help., posted by jeffreyms on February 14, 2005, at 17:15:53

Do you find that decaf coffee causes you the problems you cite or is it a caffiene connection?

I realize decaf does indeed contain some caffiene.

I would appreciate a response if you are still tuning in.

Thanks

 

Re: question for jeffreyms

Posted by jeffreyms on February 18, 2005, at 20:24:18

In reply to question for jeffreyms, posted by Glydin on February 18, 2005, at 7:46:50

Although I don't drink coffee anymore, just tea, I seem to remember that I would get a much smaller reaction to decafe. Now, i drinks tons of purified water which makes me feel great and tea when i need to be awake and more alert. I wish i could give caffiene up but without it i just feel like sleeping all day. Hope that helps!
Jeff

 

Thanks Jeff » jeffreyms

Posted by Glydin on February 19, 2005, at 6:56:09

In reply to Re: question for jeffreyms, posted by jeffreyms on February 18, 2005, at 20:24:18

Caffiene and I have a love hate relationship. I was a java junkie but things change and I've had a difficult time adapting to that. I appreciate your answering my question to you.

 

Re: question on fish oil and allergies. Please hel

Posted by Regis Harold on February 20, 2005, at 9:02:18

In reply to Re: question on fish oil and allergies. Please help., posted by jeffreyms on February 14, 2005, at 17:15:53

Could you mention the specific name of the test used?

I highly suspect that I suffer from food allergies as well that cause me to feel tired, fatigued, disoriented, confused, irritable, and less social. I had heard the theory of food allergies in the past, and never really saw the relation between them and my situation until I started to learn more about them, and how many of my symptoms are related to my food consumption. At work, I had stopped eating breakfast and would hold off on lunch as long as I could, because I knew that once I ate, my symptoms would be exacerbated. I thought perhaps that this was a blood sugar problem, but my blood tests came back normal. After learning more about food allergies, I became convinced that this was my problem, so I set off trying to determine what foods I react and do not react negatively to. At this point, I know that eggs, milk, wheat, and oranges can really do a number on me. If I eat a highly restricted diet, like chicken and corn - I end up with more energy - I feel perfectly fine, actually. The problem is finding out what else I'm allergic to. It's very troubling to go out to restaurants with friends or co-workers and not know what I can and can't eat. There are times when I have gone out to eat with friends, happy and sociable, and minutes after eating become sad, lethargic, less talkative, and confused.

Therefore, any information you can provide as to what tests you have used, or additional resources on the topic would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks

 

Re: question on fish oil and allergies. Please hel

Posted by jeffreyms on February 20, 2005, at 21:41:53

In reply to Re: question on fish oil and allergies. Please hel, posted by Regis Harold on February 20, 2005, at 9:02:18

> Could you mention the specific name of the test used?
>
> I highly suspect that I suffer from food allergies as well that cause me to feel tired, fatigued, disoriented, confused, irritable, and less social.

Hi regis. I just posted a big long response to your question but it didn't show up so I'll try again but make it simpler. The symptoms you describe are some of the same ones i have and are common to people with these type food allergies.

The disorentation i can especially relate to. I think it could relate to your inner ear and balance because i notice when my allergies are worse i'm more dizzy and unblanced and that can make it very hard to focus. Sorry I don't have any handy now but there are a lot of books on food allergies and most of them describe the kind of reaction that you and I get as well as testing and treatment options. You could call a local bookstore and have them search for food allergy as the subject or in the title or my library has several books so you could try that also.

The test was called a patch test. You could also try a rare foods diet where you're diet consists of foods that you rarely eat, then introduce more comenly eaten foods one at a time and note any reactions. Make sure you wait about 3 days between testing foods if you have a reaction because it can take that long for a delayed reaction to resolve itself. Also doing a rotation diet is helpful because we tend to get allergic to foods that we consume on a frequent basis. So eating the same food only once every four days is supposed to make it less likely to develope new allergies and may help lessen the severity of old ones.

I understand some peoples skepticism about food allergies effecting your brain but your brain is just another organ like your skin or lungs it's just harder to see a obvious response like hives or a asthma attack and not all responses are dramatic. Hope that helps a little. please let us know what you try and how you do


I had heard the theory of food allergies in the past, and never really saw the relation between them and my situation until I started to learn more about them, and how many of my symptoms are related to my food consumption. At work, I had stopped eating breakfast and would hold off on lunch as long as I could, because I knew that once I ate, my symptoms would be exacerbated. I thought perhaps that this was a blood sugar problem, but my blood tests came back normal. After learning more about food allergies, I became convinced that this was my problem, so I set off trying to determine what foods I react and do not react negatively to. At this point, I know that eggs, milk, wheat, and oranges can really do a number on me. If I eat a highly restricted diet, like chicken and corn - I end up with more energy - I feel perfectly fine, actually. The problem is finding out what else I'm allergic to. It's very troubling to go out to restaurants with friends or co-workers and not know what I can and can't eat. There are times when I have gone out to eat with friends, happy and sociable, and minutes after eating become sad, lethargic, less talkative, and confused.
>
> Therefore, any information you can provide as to what tests you have used, or additional resources on the topic would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Thanks
>
>

 

Re: question on fish oil and allergies. Please hel

Posted by Regis Harold on February 22, 2005, at 6:51:35

In reply to Re: question on fish oil and allergies. Please hel, posted by jeffreyms on February 20, 2005, at 21:41:53

Thanks jeffreyms,

I just bought Brain Allergies by Philpott and Kalita online the other day, and it should arrive within a few days. I'm very interested to read what they have to say about the subject. Have you read this? I'll let you know what I think of the book once I get it.

btw, the whole message disappearing act has happened to me before too, so whenenver i think about writing a long message, i'll write it in a word processor first, then copy and paste the message into this box.

Cheers

 

Re: question on fish oil and allergies. Please hel

Posted by MaryT on March 1, 2005, at 22:28:00

In reply to Re: question on fish oil and allergies. Please hel, posted by Regis Harold on February 22, 2005, at 6:51:35

hi - I'm new to this chat room thing, so please bear with me! I am so excited to find out that I am NOT the only person in the world who is allergic to everything God and man ever created! I also am so restricted in my diet, by patch tests, elimination diets, etc over the past 24 years, I am now down to only being able to eat extra lean ground beef, minute rice, cranberry juice and pepsi.I can sometimes sneak in a few bites of catfish, if I take benadryl with it. A lot of the reactions are like food poisoning. Whether or not they are allergies or intolerances at this point doesn't even matter, really. My symptoms will vary between respiratory or digestive, but will always be the same with the same foods. Now I have several 3 inch thick medical records in almost every clinic in the hospital, because I am a physical mess. (I also have depression problems, but that's for later discussion.) Anyway, the question I have been trying to find an answer to is "If a person is allergic to all seafoods, will that person have a reaction to fish oils?" I read the one post that said allergic reactions are caused by proteins, but more than one of my physicians - and I am fortunate to have the "best of the best" where I am - say that a person can be allergic to a food product at any point in the chemical breakdown of that food. But none of them have the answer to this question, even my allergist. So I guess the better way to ask the question is "Has anyone else out there who is allergic to all seafood been able to tolerate fish oil capsules?"I have more to post that might help others. Thanks for any help anyone can give me on this one!

 

Re: question on fish oil and allergies. Please help. » jeffreyms

Posted by Larry Hoover on March 2, 2005, at 16:11:35

In reply to Re: question on fish oil and allergies. Please help., posted by jeffreyms on February 14, 2005, at 17:15:53

> Hi Lar,
> thanks for the response.
> My allergist wrote several books on was one of the doctors that discovered the type 2 delayed food allergy. Not all allergies are the immidiate type 1 where you immidietely get hives or a headach or whatever. Te patch test is were they put a part of the substance that they are testing you for on part of your body(usually arm or back) along with a liquid that helps the some of the substance disolve into your arm and then you leave it for about 3 days and see if you develop a whelt or blister. I was eating tuna every day and developed the biggest blister to it. I'm not sure if you could define this a a true allergy or just food intolerance or bad reaction to food as i don't think it goes through the same ige channels as a immidiate reaction.

It's hard to get a clear picture of the type 2 reaction. It's still a very controversial diagnosis, and thought to be experimental by some.

It's not an IgE reaction. It may be IgM, or T-cell mediated. It's got me curious, though.

> At first delayed "allergies" were controversial but now its becoming more and more accepted and many doctors are coming around to the fact that they exist. I know they do for me. If i have a big cup of coffee for instance, i won't have a immidate reaction but for the next couple of days i will be very tired, depressed and achy. I noticed this and also my mother did and she also noticed that after ingesting something i was allergic to i would become much more iriatable and my skin would be very sensitive. she even noticed that when she scratched my back it would leave red marks for a few minutes if i was having a delayed reaction. we both noticed these reaction before i went to the doctor and even heard of delayed reactions so that would pretty much rule out it being psychosomatic. I wish it was so easy as fish oil doesn't contain proteins so i couldn't get allergic to it but as sensitive as i am to everything i would be very much surprised if i didn't.

I would have to read something more authoritative about mechanisms. You said your doctor wrote a book? What's it called?

> I do understand your skeptisism and if i hadn't lived this myself I might not be sure if i believed in it or not as well.

I honestly thought you were going to describe what is known as electrodermal testing. That is totally quackery.

> Thank you very much for your response and please forgive all my typos. Jeff

Do you know of a website or something that describes this phenomenon?

Lar

 

Re: question on fish oil and allergies. Please help.

Posted by MaryT on March 2, 2005, at 21:09:40

In reply to Re: question on fish oil and allergies. Please help. » jeffreyms, posted by Larry Hoover on March 2, 2005, at 16:11:35

Howdy! I would also be interested in reading a book that comes with a personal recommendation. There is so much out there to sort through, hard to know what is fact or theory. My neuromuscular specialist is a PHD immunology chemist who is doing research projects on the cellular level, and has diagnosed me with something called myodenylate deaminase deficiency, and we are waiting for the results of DNA testing to see if it is from a damaged chromosome. One of the questions hanging in the air is how many of my problems are from 20 years of limited nutrition, or are my food allergies/intolerances part of a bigger picture of basic cellular malfunction at an elemental level. Unfortunately, this process takes a long time, and I won't get the results for several months. So I am now investigating supplements that I had never even heard of before. I met with my psychiatrist today to get his input on which of the latest handfuls of meds perscribed for various problems (sleep disorder, macular degeneration, possible MS, colitis, etc) that I have been given to try over the past 2 months would he see as the most important, (I have to introduce any new meds or foods spaced far apart) and least likely to tip the depression scales. He said that Omega 3 (recommended by my neurologist as an energy booster) was something that he and many others in the profession actually "perscribe" as a mood stabilizer. Plus it will have all of the other obvious benefits that Omega 3's have, and should boost all of my systems. So now I am even more concerned about knowing how the fish oil will do in a body that can't metabolize any seafood at all. I hadn't known the part about the use as a mood stabilizer, but it can safely be taken with my celexa (and other anti-depressants). Thanks ahead of time for the name of the book, if you don't mind sharing it. Maybe it has an answer. I could just go buy a bottle of the things, but I have so many things that I couldn't take after 1 or 2 pills! Why don't pharamcuetical companies offer "trial size" products! (Duh, $$$$$ !). MaryT

 

Re: question on fish oil and allergies. Please help. » MaryT

Posted by Larry Hoover on March 4, 2005, at 16:43:15

In reply to Re: question on fish oil and allergies. Please help., posted by MaryT on March 2, 2005, at 21:09:40

> Howdy! I would also be interested in reading a book that comes with a personal recommendation. There is so much out there to sort through, hard to know what is fact or theory. My neuromuscular specialist is a PHD immunology chemist who is doing research projects on the cellular level, and has diagnosed me with something called myodenylate deaminase deficiency, and we are waiting for the results of DNA testing to see if it is from a damaged chromosome.

Not to be too picky here, but you have to spell it right if you want to find some good information on it. You dropped an a in the first word; it's myoadenylate deficiency. It can be inborn (genetic error) or acquired.

Probably 1-2% of all people have this defect, and most do not show any symptoms. That said, it is discovered more often than that when unexplained fatigue or myalgia are being investigated. This suggests that a combination of factors, one of which is MAD, can combine to lead to symptomatic illness.

> One of the questions hanging in the air is how many of my problems are from 20 years of limited nutrition, or are my food allergies/intolerances part of a bigger picture of basic cellular malfunction at an elemental level. Unfortunately, this process takes a long time, and I won't get the results for several months. So I am now investigating supplements that I had never even heard of before.

If you have some specific questions, I'd be glad to help you with that.

> He said that Omega 3 (recommended by my neurologist as an energy booster) was something that he and many others in the profession actually "perscribe" as a mood stabilizer. Plus it will have all of the other obvious benefits that Omega 3's have, and should boost all of my systems. So now I am even more concerned about knowing how the fish oil will do in a body that can't metabolize any seafood at all.

I'm not sure what you mean by "can't metabolize any seafood at all". Fish oils do not tend to provoke sensitivity reactions, though that could happen, I suppose. It's generally the proteins found in seafood that are responsible for adverse reactions/intolerances. Protein is absent from fish oil.

> I hadn't known the part about the use as a mood stabilizer, but it can safely be taken with my celexa (and other anti-depressants). Thanks ahead of time for the name of the book, if you don't mind sharing it. Maybe it has an answer. I could just go buy a bottle of the things, but I have so many things that I couldn't take after 1 or 2 pills! Why don't pharamcuetical companies offer "trial size" products! (Duh, $$$$$ !). MaryT

A small bottle of fish oil from Walmart is only a few bucks.

Lar

 

Re: question on fish oil and allergies. Please help.

Posted by jeffreyms on March 4, 2005, at 20:09:30

In reply to Re: question on fish oil and allergies. Please help. » jeffreyms, posted by Larry Hoover on March 2, 2005, at 16:11:35

Hello,
I'm sorry I recently moved and got rid of all of my books regarding food allergies. I don't remember the name of my Doctors book but his name was Dr. James Brenneman (sp?) The book would probably be hard to find as he has retired for some time now and i'm sure it's out of print. They used to have it a the local (Kalamazoo) library so i could check. I did go see a couple doctors quite a few years ago that both have books on the subject. One's name is Sherry Rogers MD. and the other i believe his name is doctor Randolph. Dr. Rogers discovered how allergies/intollerances can effect your brain because she had the problem herself. Your right some people still consider it controvertial but i've noticed it how allergies can effect your brain and serotonin (sp) levels in books besides just allergy type books like books dealing with low carb high protein diets and such so I think it's starting toget a little more commonly accepted.

I'm not sure of any web sites because i haven't researched it on the net yet-sorry. If you find anything useful, please let me know. I also read on remedyfind.com how some people had a very positive effect on energy levels and mental problems by changing their diet and cutting out certain foods especialy grains
Jeff

> > Hi Lar,
> > thanks for the response.
> > My allergist wrote several books on was one of the doctors that discovered the type 2 delayed food allergy. Not all allergies are the immidiate type 1 where you immidietely get hives or a headach or whatever. Te patch test is were they put a part of the substance that they are testing you for on part of your body(usually arm or back) along with a liquid that helps the some of the substance disolve into your arm and then you leave it for about 3 days and see if you develop a whelt or blister. I was eating tuna every day and developed the biggest blister to it. I'm not sure if you could define this a a true allergy or just food intolerance or bad reaction to food as i don't think it goes through the same ige channels as a immidiate reaction.
>
> It's hard to get a clear picture of the type 2 reaction. It's still a very controversial diagnosis, and thought to be experimental by some.
>
> It's not an IgE reaction. It may be IgM, or T-cell mediated. It's got me curious, though.
>
> > At first delayed "allergies" were controversial but now its becoming more and more accepted and many doctors are coming around to the fact that they exist. I know they do for me. If i have a big cup of coffee for instance, i won't have a immidate reaction but for the next couple of days i will be very tired, depressed and achy. I noticed this and also my mother did and she also noticed that after ingesting something i was allergic to i would become much more iriatable and my skin would be very sensitive. she even noticed that when she scratched my back it would leave red marks for a few minutes if i was having a delayed reaction. we both noticed these reaction before i went to the doctor and even heard of delayed reactions so that would pretty much rule out it being psychosomatic. I wish it was so easy as fish oil doesn't contain proteins so i couldn't get allergic to it but as sensitive as i am to everything i would be very much surprised if i didn't.
>
> I would have to read something more authoritative about mechanisms. You said your doctor wrote a book? What's it called?
>
> > I do understand your skeptisism and if i hadn't lived this myself I might not be sure if i believed in it or not as well.
>
> I honestly thought you were going to describe what is known as electrodermal testing. That is totally quackery.
>
> > Thank you very much for your response and please forgive all my typos. Jeff
>
> Do you know of a website or something that describes this phenomenon?
>
> Lar
>

 

Re: question on fish oil and allergies. Please hel

Posted by jeffreyms on March 4, 2005, at 20:53:34

In reply to Re: question on fish oil and allergies. Please hel, posted by MaryT on March 1, 2005, at 22:28:00

Hi Mary!
Thanks for posting. I'm not sure about your question but I am currently taking high dose fish oil on a daily basis and I haven't noticed any reactions yet. It seems to be helping me a great deal as far as mood and stress levels so i'm keeping my fingers crossed that I can continue taking it. I would obviously much rather take something that has far reaching short and long term positive health benefits than taking drugs that don't really solve the problem just temporarily cover it up.

Pepsi? I'm really allergic to caffiene so that's a big no no for me. I'm surprised you can tolerate it. Pure water makes me feel great. Catfish i stared eating after i found out i was "allergic" to just about everything i normally ate and i always hated fish. Now I try to have catfish at least once a week. I cook it with olive oil and cover it with Louisiana hot sauce and I love it and it makes me feel great.

The bigest problem i have is having the discipline to stick to the diet because i have cravings for carbs and especially breads and sweets that is so strong that i have not been able to give them up. I'm hoping that now that the fish oil is helping me that I might be able to stick to the diet. Most of the time I was eating breads and sweets to alleviate the depressiion and\or anxiety and the fish oil seems to be helping a great deal in that regard.

Anyway good luck, I know how challenging this problem can be. Please let us know if anything has helped you.
Kindest Regards, Jeff

> hi - I'm new to this chat room thing, so please bear with me! I am so excited to find out that I am NOT the only person in the world who is allergic to everything God and man ever created! I also am so restricted in my diet, by patch tests, elimination diets, etc over the past 24 years, I am now down to only being able to eat extra lean ground beef, minute rice, cranberry juice and pepsi.I can sometimes sneak in a few bites of catfish, if I take benadryl with it. A lot of the reactions are like food poisoning. Whether or not they are allergies or intolerances at this point doesn't even matter, really. My symptoms will vary between respiratory or digestive, but will always be the same with the same foods. Now I have several 3 inch thick medical records in almost every clinic in the hospital, because I am a physical mess. (I also have depression problems, but that's for later discussion.) Anyway, the question I have been trying to find an answer to is "If a person is allergic to all seafoods, will that person have a reaction to fish oils?" I read the one post that said allergic reactions are caused by proteins, but more than one of my physicians - and I am fortunate to have the "best of the best" where I am - say that a person can be allergic to a food product at any point in the chemical breakdown of that food. But none of them have the answer to this question, even my allergist. So I guess the better way to ask the question is "Has anyone else out there who is allergic to all seafood been able to tolerate fish oil capsules?"I have more to post that might help others. Thanks for any help anyone can give me on this one!

 

Re: question on fish oil and allergies. Please hel » jeffreyms

Posted by MaryT on March 5, 2005, at 0:47:36

In reply to Re: question on fish oil and allergies. Please hel, posted by jeffreyms on March 4, 2005, at 20:53:34

Hi! Thanks for responding, Larry and Jeff.Larry, it sounds from your resonses to many things that have been posted that you might have some medical/chemistry/pharmaceutical expertise. It is frustrating to me that my own availability to relevant research materials and the experiences of my own colleaques still have not led me to answers I need to so many of my questions. Maybe in the future you might be able to answer some of the other questions I have. Jeff, thank you so much for sharing the fact that you can tolerate fish oil capsules. They are inexpensive as Larry noted, but losing 3 days in clinic while I hang out at home in the bathroom, and/or a trip to the ER, or knocking out on benadryl depending on which reaction I am having is problematic. I am also trying to find a source of CoEnzyme-Q that doesn't have additives I cannot tolerate. Have you ever checked the prices of that supplement Larry? It adds up fast when my neuromuscular specialist wants me to be taking 1 - 3 grams daily, while the highest supplement I can find is 400 mg. I have to add that to the meds for MS, colitis, macular degeneration, narcolepsy, depression, allergies, plus I get to throw in some estrogen. If you know of an inexpensive source for the Co-Q, please let me know. If it could help with just one of these conditions, including the MAD, it would be worth any price! But again, continually paying for meds and such that I discover I cannot tolerate adds up fast! Fortunately my insurance coverage is excellent, but it doesn't cover supplements.

Again, thanks for any info - please excuse any typos. I'm more used to dictating, than typing!Mary


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