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Posted by meltingpot on July 26, 2018, at 11:31:09
Hi,
For anyone interested, Psilocybin is being trialled for depression in the UK this year. Here is the site with the details but you will need to get your Doctor or Psychiatrist to refer you.
Denise
Posted by linkadge on July 26, 2018, at 16:10:35
In reply to UK - Psilocybin Trial, posted by meltingpot on July 26, 2018, at 11:31:09
Interesting.
If you try this, let us know how it goes.
I have been using medical marijanna for about 5 months and it has helped anxiety / insomnia / OCD a lot.
Linkadge
Posted by ed_uk2010 on July 26, 2018, at 18:44:22
In reply to UK - Psilocybin Trial, posted by meltingpot on July 26, 2018, at 11:31:09
Hi Denise,
Thanks for posting that. Have you been referred?
Posted by meltingpot on July 28, 2018, at 11:53:02
In reply to Re: UK - Psilocybin Trial » meltingpot, posted by ed_uk2010 on July 26, 2018, at 18:44:22
Hi,
No, I've not been referred for this one but was accepted on a trial about two years ago at the Imperial College. I backed out though because I get extreme anxiety with my depression (the anxiety is the worst, pacing retching, can't eat, just want to die etc) so a bit concerned about psilocybin.
I'm thinking about getting my Psychiatrist to refer me but a bit "anxious" about tripping. I'm doing ok on 400mg of Seroxat and 10mg of Zyprexa now and again but keep hoping for something that will actually cure me even if it's for six months.
Denise
Posted by ed_uk2010 on July 29, 2018, at 15:13:28
In reply to To Ed, posted by meltingpot on July 28, 2018, at 11:53:02
Hi Denise,
So, what is it about paroxetine which is unsatisfactory? Still got some symptoms in the background? It does sound like it is still helping even if it's not perfect.
Or, is it more than you want to be medication-free?
Posted by meltingpot on July 31, 2018, at 12:03:07
In reply to Re: To Ed » meltingpot, posted by ed_uk2010 on July 29, 2018, at 15:13:28
Hi Ed,
It seems to affect me so differently to how it affected me when I first ever took it. After my last so called episode (I'm not even sure that's what it was as it's still going on) I took 20mg of it expecting to react the same but the 20mg made me feel awful. Every antidepressant I tried after that at a low dose made me feel awful, extreme anxiety and loss of concentration. I went on like that for 2 years, with Zyprexa now and again to help. Then it wasn't until a psychiatrist put me straight on 40mg that I responded.
I definately feel better on 40mg of Seroxat than I do off it but there is something different about the way I feel now on in, I can't explain. Maybe it's the fact that for the first time ever I felt suicidal when I was 35. There is still a part of me that feels suicidal. Just thinking of how bad I can feel off drugs makes me feel like killing myself.
I'm so grateful for the medication but I'm not grateful for the fact that I seem to need it so much.
Denise
Posted by ed_uk2010 on July 31, 2018, at 14:11:08
In reply to Re: To Ed, posted by meltingpot on July 31, 2018, at 12:03:07
Hi Denise,
I do understand that it is frightening to feel so dependent on something.
Just out of curiousity, have you tried 50mg or 60mg paroxetine? I took 50mg for a while, years ago.
Posted by meltingpot on August 1, 2018, at 11:27:14
In reply to Re: To Ed » meltingpot, posted by ed_uk2010 on July 31, 2018, at 14:11:08
Hi Ed,
Yes, I've taken 100mg Seroxat once out of Frustration :-) Only one night though. I did find upping it up to 60 for a while seems to make me more chatty. To be honest though whilst I'm so grateful for the medication I wish I could just be walking around unmedicated feeling ok. I guess most of the people on this board feel like that. In fact probably a lot of people on this board would like to be in my shoes and actuall get a response.
I wish someone could just get into my brain and fix the problem. Or you could take the equivalent of a course of antibiotics, get better, come off them and just get on with your life.
I know that with meds, I've pretty much tried them all and it's as good as it gets which is why I'm thinking of psilocybin.
Denise
Posted by ed_uk2010 on August 2, 2018, at 12:47:29
In reply to Re: To Ed, posted by meltingpot on August 1, 2018, at 11:27:14
Hi D,
I don't think about it too much personally. I've been on medication so long that I'm used to the idea that it just keeps me well, rather than cures anything.
It seems like paroxetine is essential for you, so you may as well optimise the dose. If 50mg or 60mg is better than 40mg, it could be worthwhile even though you'd rather not be on it.
Posted by meltingpot on August 3, 2018, at 9:35:57
In reply to Re: To Ed » meltingpot, posted by ed_uk2010 on August 2, 2018, at 12:47:29
Hi Ed,
Yes, I ruminate about it far too much. I suppose part of my anxiety really. Just terrified that someone might just pull me off the drugs and I'll be trapped somewhere without them. At least when I stop them and start them, it's me who is in control. In fact I've made a friend promise that if ever I'm in hospital and can't speak, they are to make sure the nurses give me my antidepressants and the zyprexa, even if they have to inject it in me :-)
Sorry but what are you taking at the moment and what condition is it that you are suffering from. I thought you said years ago that it was some kind psychosis but I can't remember for sure.
Denise
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