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Posted by Lamdage22 on December 11, 2015, at 13:02:24
In reply to Re: Ability and Pristiq for Social Anxiety » Lamdage22, posted by SLS on December 11, 2015, at 12:51:04
> It is interesting how CBD and THC have opposing effects when it comes to psychosis. I hope you are able to get the CBD.
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> - ScottVery much so. Pure THC is POISON for mental disorders. However, with enough CBD....
Posted by rjlockhart37 on December 11, 2015, at 19:07:43
In reply to Re: Ability and Pristiq for Social Anxiety, posted by Lamdage22 on December 11, 2015, at 13:02:24
i have CBD oil but it does not have a major effect on me, originally i got it an thought it was similar to weed, but i smoked hydro weed at a party, and it made feel detached from reality, it's like everything stopped making sense, and i could see a new way of thinking........
CBD oil makes me feel calm, but not high at all......
Posted by Justusphung on December 12, 2015, at 3:20:13
In reply to Re: Ability and Pristiq for Social Anxiety, posted by rjlockhart37 on December 11, 2015, at 19:07:43
Anyone tries Deanxit?
Posted by Christ_empowered on December 13, 2015, at 11:13:59
In reply to Deanxit, posted by Justusphung on December 12, 2015, at 3:20:13
I don't know much about deanxit. Its apparently a combo of an AD w/ a low dose of flupenthixol. Low dose flupenthixol is sometimes used in depression, sort of a low cost, old school Abilify, I suppose.
Its apparently designed for short term use. Maybe try it while you and your doc work out a long term treatment plan? Of course, its apparently used long term anyway, so I guess its up to your pdoc.
Good luck.
Posted by Justusphung on December 13, 2015, at 20:54:51
In reply to Re: Deanxit, posted by Christ_empowered on December 13, 2015, at 11:13:59
Strangely, when I was taking pristiq and abilify, I felt more depressed and slept all day long, reluctant to do anything. Then, my pdoc prescribed lyrica 25mg, deanxit once daily, and propanolol 10mg three times a day as to augment the original mediation. I found the deanxit motivating, allowing me to leave my bed. This effect is similar to the one given by amisulpride.
Now, I have stopped taking pristiq, only taking amisulpride 50mg and deanxit twice daily. According to my situation, which other drugs are suitable to help me motivate and calm down?
Posted by Zyprexa on December 13, 2015, at 21:11:44
In reply to Re: Ability and Pristiq for Social Anxiety, posted by rjlockhart37 on December 11, 2015, at 19:07:43
You have to take the CBD for a while till it has an effect. About 2 months. The calm, sedated effect is instant. But the AP effect takes a while then I reduced zyprexa.
Posted by SLS on December 14, 2015, at 14:10:31
In reply to Re: Deanxit, posted by Justusphung on December 13, 2015, at 20:54:51
> Strangely, when I was taking pristiq and abilify, I felt more depressed and slept all day long, reluctant to do anything. Then, my pdoc prescribed lyrica 25mg, deanxit once daily, and propanolol 10mg three times a day as to augment the original mediation. I found the deanxit motivating, allowing me to leave my bed. This effect is similar to the one given by amisulpride.
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> Now, I have stopped taking pristiq, only taking amisulpride 50mg and deanxit twice daily. According to my situation, which other drugs are suitable to help me motivate and calm down?I had never heard of Deanxit (flupentixol/melitracen).
Which type of depression do you have - melancholic depression or atypical depression? Can you describe your symptoms? Do you feel worst in the morning?
How do you react to SSRIs in general?
If you react badly to all serotonin reuptake inhibitors, you may need to look at desipramine, a tricyclic antidepressant (TCA) that is selective for norepinephrine. It will often reduce anxiety when the anxiety is a component of depression - which it often is with melancholic depression. It will not work for GAD. Since melitracen is also a TCA, you might need to discontinue the Deanxit or else try adding a small amount desipramine to see how you react to it.
Since the flupentixol isn't calming you down enough, you might not need it if desipramine works. Besides, I have never been a fan of combination pills. You might need way more melitracen than what you are getting with the Deanxit. However, if you were to take a dosage of Deanxit that would bring your melitracen intake high enough to be effective, the flupentixol would be way too high. It is much better, in my opinion, to dose each drug separately.
Have you ever tried Abilify? If not, it would be interesting to see how you respond to it. If it doesn't cause akathisia, it can actually act like an augmenter of antidepressants and anxiolytic (anxiety-reducing). For me, I felt some restlessness during the first week or so. It was uncomfortable, but disappeared entirely. I would say that the number of people who experience true akathisia represent a minority.
Wellbutrin might be too anxiogenic (anxiety-producing) or agitating for you. I'm not sure.
- Scott
Posted by SLS on December 14, 2015, at 14:14:57
In reply to Deanxit, posted by Justusphung on December 12, 2015, at 3:20:13
My apologies. I didn't read your previous posts.
- Scott
Posted by Justusphung on December 16, 2015, at 9:05:24
In reply to Re: Deanxit » Justusphung, posted by SLS on December 14, 2015, at 14:10:31
Scott, my problem is mainly social anxiety. I have tried Wellbutrin before which did not give me any motivating nor antidepressant effects. So, I think adjusting norepinephrine level does nothing to me.
Now, my pdoc puts me on 50mg amisulpride and 2 deanxit pills each day. As I told her low dose amisulpride/sulpiride and deanxit show positive reactions on me, she concluded that dopamine is something I need right now. Therefore, she also prescribes 5mg abilify and 36mg concerta in order to regulate my dopamine level as well as to keep me awake in the daytime, not being staying in bed all the time.
Posted by Justusphung on December 18, 2015, at 2:31:17
In reply to Re: Deanxit, posted by Justusphung on December 16, 2015, at 9:05:24
I come across this drug on a social anxiety forum. I see there are quite a lot of positive feedbacks on the medication to cope with anxiety. Do u guys think it is a good augmentation to my daily regime?
Posted by john locke on December 23, 2015, at 9:40:49
In reply to Re: Ability and Pristiq for Social Anxiety » Justusphung, posted by Zyprexa on December 6, 2015, at 20:34:00
> Abilify made my anxiety worse. I took it for 6 months. Zyprexa on the other hand has worked really well for the last 18 years. And recently I've started CBD oil (canabidiol), which works great for social anxiety. I like the combination of the 2.
Where should I order CBD oil from? Does tolerance build quickly?
John
Posted by Justusphung on December 24, 2015, at 4:10:14
In reply to Re: Ability and Pristiq for Social Anxiety » Justusphung, posted by Zyprexa on December 6, 2015, at 20:34:00
I have just bought a bottle of hemp oil under the brand name called Nutiva. Is it the same thing of CBN oil? How should I take with it, one serving spoon portion daily? I will try it later and hope it gives me an instant action of calming effect;)
Posted by Zyprexa on December 24, 2015, at 5:59:32
In reply to Re: Ability and Pristiq for Social Anxiety, posted by john locke on December 23, 2015, at 9:40:49
The cheepest price I've found is on LuckyVitamin.com, for the CBD oil. I like the Canavest.
I started on about 3mg a day. Now I take about 12mg a day. I've been taking it for about 6 months.
Posted by Zyprexa on December 24, 2015, at 6:02:12
In reply to Re: Ability and Pristiq for Social Anxiety » Zyprexa, posted by Justusphung on December 24, 2015, at 4:10:14
Let me know how the hemp oil goes. I don't think its the same thing as CBD oil. Same plant only its the CBD content that is activating.
Posted by john locke on December 25, 2015, at 8:55:46
In reply to Re: Ability and Pristiq for Social Anxiety » john locke, posted by Zyprexa on December 24, 2015, at 5:59:32
> The cheepest price I've found is on LuckyVitamin.com, for the CBD oil. I like the Canavest.
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> I started on about 3mg a day. Now I take about 12mg a day. I've been taking it for about 6 months.The website says 60 mg is about one serving size
Posted by Justusphung on December 25, 2015, at 9:40:55
In reply to Re: Ability and Pristiq for Social Anxiety » Justusphung, posted by Zyprexa on December 24, 2015, at 6:02:12
> Let me know how the hemp oil goes. I don't think its the same thing as CBD oil. Same plant only its the CBD content that is activating.
I have done some research on the internet and found that hemp oil refers to the hemp seed oil, the seed of cannabis. This may not contain a high enough CBD to produce any calming effect, I think. Now, I consume two spoons of the oil daily for the sake of constipation...
There are some seemingly well-known CBD oil products in the US like the ones sold under the brand name, say, Cannavest as you have mentioned, others like Dixie Botanical and Tasty Hemp Oil. For Cannavest and Dixie, they sells CBD oil in the form of capsules. Unfortunately, these products seem not to be used legally here in Hong Kong. I am trying to get the CBD oil capsules online.
Do you have any reliable online store which can deliver the goods to Hong Kong?
Posted by Zyprexa on December 25, 2015, at 13:10:28
In reply to Re: Ability and Pristiq for Social Anxiety » Zyprexa, posted by Justusphung on December 25, 2015, at 9:40:55
I don't know if they will deliver to Hong Kong if its illegal there. But Lucky vitamin is reliable and sells good products. Can you get a prescription for it in Hong Kong? Or is it totaly illegal there?
Canavest is made in canada. Maybe you can get it from there. its also legal in Europe.
Its made from hemp plants not canabis. There is a difference. Even though you can get CBD out of either plant. Just not the THC from hemp. one is legal and the other is not.
Posted by Zyprexa on December 25, 2015, at 13:14:53
In reply to Re: Ability and Pristiq for Social Anxiety, posted by john locke on December 25, 2015, at 8:55:46
The serving sizes differ from each product. The spray is either 1 or 3 mg. The capsule is 25mg. The straight oil is 40mg. And the gold oil is like 50 or 60mg. Which is the one I asume you are looking at?
Posted by john locke on December 25, 2015, at 14:28:12
In reply to Re: Ability and Pristiq for Social Anxiety » john locke, posted by Zyprexa on December 25, 2015, at 13:14:53
> The serving sizes differ from each product. The spray is either 1 or 3 mg. The capsule is 25mg. The straight oil is 40mg. And the gold oil is like 50 or 60mg. Which is the one I asume you are looking at?
Yea. Do they produce different effects? Is one more cost efficient than the others?
Posted by Zyprexa on December 25, 2015, at 21:34:51
In reply to Re: Ability and Pristiq for Social Anxiety, posted by john locke on December 25, 2015, at 14:28:12
The 1mg per spray is no effect and taste bad. The 3mg spray is really good, but a little expensive. I like the 40mg concentrate oil the best and its the best price. Just take a little bit of that and a jar last 2 weeks. I got the 10 jar pack. Its the green, not the gold which is really expensive. I take a little bit out with a tooth pick, about 3mm squared. I try to get 24 out of one jar.
Posted by john locke on December 26, 2015, at 15:04:29
In reply to Re: Ability and Pristiq for Social Anxiety » john locke, posted by Zyprexa on December 25, 2015, at 21:34:51
> The 1mg per spray is no effect and taste bad. The 3mg spray is really good, but a little expensive. I like the 40mg concentrate oil the best and its the best price. Just take a little bit of that and a jar last 2 weeks. I got the 10 jar pack. Its the green, not the gold which is really expensive. I take a little bit out with a tooth pick, about 3mm squared. I try to get 24 out of one jar.
Would you send the link to it please?
Posted by Zyprexa on December 26, 2015, at 23:31:42
In reply to Re: Ability and Pristiq for Social Anxiety, posted by john locke on December 26, 2015, at 15:04:29
http://www.luckyvitamin.com/p-737668-cannavest-pluscbd-oil-green-total-plant-complex-10-grams
You can find all the CBD products on Luckyvitamin.com, enter CBD. There are 52 products. The price has gone up since I last ordered. Doubled.. not sure why.
They also have smaller quantities, 1g, or 4 gram of the same thing.
Posted by Lamdage22 on January 3, 2016, at 11:42:06
In reply to Re: Ability and Pristiq for Social Anxiety, posted by john locke on December 25, 2015, at 14:28:12
For schizophrenia you need several hundred mgs.
I may try it.
Posted by Justusphung on January 8, 2016, at 23:23:10
In reply to Re: Ability and Pristiq for Social Anxiety, posted by Lamdage22 on January 3, 2016, at 11:42:06
I have just take off Abilify and Pristiq as well as concerta and Lyrica. I am now trying to take 50mg solian every other day to prevent tolerance. And hopefully, the CBD oil capsule from CannaVest could be arrived by the end of this month.
Posted by Zyprexa on January 9, 2016, at 11:13:32
In reply to Re: Ability and Pristiq for Social Anxiety, posted by Justusphung on January 8, 2016, at 23:23:10
So you are going to try CBD? Let me know how it goes!
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