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Posted by SLS on July 31, 2015, at 10:22:52
In reply to Re: Six days in the hospital. NMS again! » SLS, posted by Phil on July 31, 2015, at 8:07:22
> Thanks Scott.
You are one resilient MF.
- Scott
Posted by Phil on July 31, 2015, at 12:45:03
In reply to Re: Six days in the hospital. NMS again! » Phil, posted by SLS on July 31, 2015, at 10:22:52
Don't know what else to do.
Posted by Horse on August 1, 2015, at 18:55:37
In reply to Six days in the hospital. NMS again!, posted by Phil on July 30, 2015, at 10:18:40
You're like the man struck with lightening twice! What a bummer :( I remember when this happened before. I thought your bro took you in a cab? My recall isn't what it once was.
Glad you're ok!
Posted by Phil on August 2, 2015, at 11:44:24
In reply to Re: Six days in the hospital. NMS again!, posted by Horse on August 1, 2015, at 18:55:37
Close! Took a cab by myself both times.
Posted by Phil on August 3, 2015, at 8:31:20
In reply to Re: Six days in the hospital. NMS again! » Horse, posted by Phil on August 2, 2015, at 11:44:24
Have lost 13 pounds in as many days since they took me off of Seroquel. Exercising some and watching my diet plus Metformin can work without Seroquel on board.
It's a long winding road but you only have a chance if you don't give up. That is sometimes a very hard thing to do.
Posted by SLS on August 3, 2015, at 8:57:33
In reply to Re: Six days in the hospital. NMS again!, posted by Phil on August 3, 2015, at 8:31:20
> Have lost 13 pounds in as many days since they took me off of Seroquel.
Wow! :-)
> Exercising some and watching my diet plus Metformin can work without Seroquel on board.
I'm pissed (not at you). I am taking two weight-gainers: Abilify and nortriptyline. They both gang up on me, and I can't seem to lose weight. My physical condition disgusts me. This is not very helpful to my efforts to maintain self-esteem. Crap.
> It's a long winding road but you only have a chance if you don't give up. That is sometimes a very hard thing to do.
Good advice. And yes, it is sometimes very hard for me to do. I haven't been terribly optimistic lately.
- Scott
Posted by rockerchick46 on August 6, 2015, at 10:51:06
In reply to Lou's warning to you mothers-eigeepharbyn » Phil, posted by Lou Pilder on July 30, 2015, at 12:20:32
Lou,
seriously-are you a nut case? Stop ranting about modern medicine and get some help. It is very useful for most people.
Posted by Lou Pilder on August 6, 2015, at 12:15:34
In reply to Re: Lou's warning to you mothers-eigeepharbyn, posted by rockerchick46 on August 6, 2015, at 10:51:06
> Lou,
> seriously-are you a nut case? Stop ranting about modern medicine and get some help. It is very useful for most people.rkrchk,
You wrote,[...Stop ranting about modern medicine...].
Be not deceived. The "medicine" being allowed to be seen here as being supportive is nothing new, but an ancient way that groups of people used to kill and to cause others to have their minds altered so that they became controlled by those that pandered the drugs thousands of years ago.
The drugs came form plants and other sources and the "science" was called in the Greek, {pharmakeia}. The Greek word translated into English is {sorcery}. In the ancient times, a sorcerer was one that used mind-altering drugs for purposes that in my faith are condemned. This is where we get the word, pharmacy, as from the Greek, pharmakeia. The sorcerers got the users addicted by the drugs used , mainly from Opium, and the users were controlled by the dealers of the drugs because they were addicted and needed to get the drugs from the sorcerers and became slaves. Other drugs not from Opium also were used that were hallucinogenic. Some drugs were euphoric and some were poisons such as from Hemlock. Other drugs from hemp could cause homicidal thinking and those people could be turned into assassins. The drugs could induce a mind-altering state creating psychosis. The psychiatric drugs today that are modern can induce psychosis also. And they can induce homicidal and suicidal thoughts just like the days of old. And the addiction from the modern drugs is just like the other ones.
This is nothing new, the drugging of people. And for thousands of years countries have executed those that used these type of drugs as the horror from the consequences are plainly visible cause even to even innocent people. Many countries today execute people caught with Opium products and other drugs. Your "modern" drugs can addict and kill and cause homicidal thinking just like the assassins from the days of old and their chemical structure is patterned after those drugs of old. Ritakin is similar to cocaine. Many of your "modern" drugs are like Opium, made in a laboratory and carry even worse addiction potential coming from an era of time that I am prevented here from educating you about due to the prohibitions posted to me here by Mr. Hsiung, yet he can post the swastika here.
And many here are allowed to post to take a combination of these modern drugs, which can raise the horrific consequences including death exponentially. I post here to warn you. I do not want children to suffer a horrible death by them. And the deaths here are not caused by me, and their blood will not be upon me.
Lou
Posted by rockerchick46 on August 6, 2015, at 16:13:29
In reply to Lou's reply-leykofphyur » rockerchick46, posted by Lou Pilder on August 6, 2015, at 12:15:34
> > Lou,
> > seriously-are you a nut case? Stop ranting about modern medicine and get some help. It is very useful for most people.
>
> rkrchk,
> You wrote,[...Stop ranting about modern medicine...].
> Be not deceived. The "medicine" being allowed to be seen here as being supportive is nothing new, but an ancient way that groups of people used to kill and to cause others to have their minds altered so that they became controlled by those that pandered the drugs thousands of years ago.
> The drugs came form plants and other sources and the "science" was called in the Greek, {pharmakeia}. The Greek word translated into English is {sorcery}. In the ancient times, a sorcerer was one that used mind-altering drugs for purposes that in my faith are condemned. This is where we get the word, pharmacy, as from the Greek, pharmakeia. The sorcerers got the users addicted by the drugs used , mainly from Opium, and the users were controlled by the dealers of the drugs because they were addicted and needed to get the drugs from the sorcerers and became slaves. Other drugs not from Opium also were used that were hallucinogenic. Some drugs were euphoric and some were poisons such as from Hemlock. Other drugs from hemp could cause homicidal thinking and those people could be turned into assassins. The drugs could induce a mind-altering state creating psychosis. The psychiatric drugs today that are modern can induce psychosis also. And they can induce homicidal and suicidal thoughts just like the days of old. And the addiction from the modern drugs is just like the other ones.
> This is nothing new, the drugging of people. And for thousands of years countries have executed those that used these type of drugs as the horror from the consequences are plainly visible cause even to even innocent people. Many countries today execute people caught with Opium products and other drugs. Your "modern" drugs can addict and kill and cause homicidal thinking just like the assassins from the days of old and their chemical structure is patterned after those drugs of old. Ritakin is similar to cocaine. Many of your "modern" drugs are like Opium, made in a laboratory and carry even worse addiction potential coming from an era of time that I am prevented here from educating you about due to the prohibitions posted to me here by Mr. Hsiung, yet he can post the swastika here.
> And many here are allowed to post to take a combination of these modern drugs, which can raise the horrific consequences including death exponentially. I post here to warn you. I do not want children to suffer a horrible death by them. And the deaths here are not caused by me, and their blood will not be upon me.
> LouI see. So tell me, what about all the people that the medicine helps?-that seems to be left out of your post , here.
Tammy
Posted by Lou Pilder on August 6, 2015, at 20:15:26
In reply to Re: Lou's reply-leykofphyur, posted by rockerchick46 on August 6, 2015, at 16:13:29
> > > Lou,
> > > seriously-are you a nut case? Stop ranting about modern medicine and get some help. It is very useful for most people.
> >
> > rkrchk,
> > You wrote,[...Stop ranting about modern medicine...].
> > Be not deceived. The "medicine" being allowed to be seen here as being supportive is nothing new, but an ancient way that groups of people used to kill and to cause others to have their minds altered so that they became controlled by those that pandered the drugs thousands of years ago.
> > The drugs came form plants and other sources and the "science" was called in the Greek, {pharmakeia}. The Greek word translated into English is {sorcery}. In the ancient times, a sorcerer was one that used mind-altering drugs for purposes that in my faith are condemned. This is where we get the word, pharmacy, as from the Greek, pharmakeia. The sorcerers got the users addicted by the drugs used , mainly from Opium, and the users were controlled by the dealers of the drugs because they were addicted and needed to get the drugs from the sorcerers and became slaves. Other drugs not from Opium also were used that were hallucinogenic. Some drugs were euphoric and some were poisons such as from Hemlock. Other drugs from hemp could cause homicidal thinking and those people could be turned into assassins. The drugs could induce a mind-altering state creating psychosis. The psychiatric drugs today that are modern can induce psychosis also. And they can induce homicidal and suicidal thoughts just like the days of old. And the addiction from the modern drugs is just like the other ones.
> > This is nothing new, the drugging of people. And for thousands of years countries have executed those that used these type of drugs as the horror from the consequences are plainly visible cause even to even innocent people. Many countries today execute people caught with Opium products and other drugs. Your "modern" drugs can addict and kill and cause homicidal thinking just like the assassins from the days of old and their chemical structure is patterned after those drugs of old. Ritakin is similar to cocaine. Many of your "modern" drugs are like Opium, made in a laboratory and carry even worse addiction potential coming from an era of time that I am prevented here from educating you about due to the prohibitions posted to me here by Mr. Hsiung, yet he can post the swastika here.
> > And many here are allowed to post to take a combination of these modern drugs, which can raise the horrific consequences including death exponentially. I post here to warn you. I do not want children to suffer a horrible death by them. And the deaths here are not caused by me, and their blood will not be upon me.
> > Lou
>
> I see. So tell me, what about all the people that the medicine helps?-that seems to be left out of your post , here.
> TammyTammy,
You wrote,[...the people that the (drugs) help...].
There are people that are helped by having these drugs given them, but the help could be from the placebo effect. And when that stops, the person thinks that they need a different drug. But they could be addicted to the first drug unbeknownst to them. Then another drug is added and on and on until the drugeee is hooked on multiple chemical addictions and could be unbeknownst to them that it is the drugs are now his/her problem. And to withdrawal from these multiple addictions could put them into a mind-altered state to want to kill themselves or even go on an assassination spree into movie houses, schools, shopping centers, workplaces and churches ect.
You see, the danger in the placebo effect is that the drugee could put their trust in drugs and just because they felt a little bit better at first, they could then chase the magic bullet for the rest of their lives, but what if they die before they find it or get tardive dyskinesia or diabetes or heart or liver failure or a blood disease? And here, you see the multitude of posters trying to find another drug or a combination of drugs as they could have put their trust in drugs.
There are thousands of people each and every month killed by these drugs. They did not find what they trusted in, for they found death. And the piper pipes on television showing happy people taking Cymbalta and Abilify and other drugs and children playing and music in the background. That could persuade viewers to think that trusting in drugs is what one needs to do for them to be happy.
Now I would not give you false hopes. For what I could post that is prohibited by Mr. Hsiung could give you the hope that leads to eternal life. A hope that never fails. For this hope is promised by the God that I give service and worship to that leads you back to the green fields that you used to know, by the still waters, pure so that you become purified by drinking the water of life.
I have come here to lead you to the waters of life that purify you from the addictions from the drugs that the psychiatrist gave you. And this God that I give service and worship to says that there is a fountain of living waters. This fountain is flowing right now waiting for those to come freely without price to partake of the water of life.
The drugs that the psychiatrist gives you attacks the frontal lobes of your brain, and the drugee could then not care as the brain is being shut down in a way in its thinking capacity and there could be then a sort of relief from what the drugee is experiencing. But that does not cure anything or make what is troubling the drugee go away.
And when I had an encounter with a Rider on a white horse, He said to me, "Let not your heart be troubled. If you believe in God, believe in me also. For out of your deepest emotions shall there flow a fountain of living waters."
You see, I have come to tell you how you could be made free from the shackles of addiction by the purifying waters of life. The hope from the waters of life are not the same as the hope from drugs given to you by the psychiatrist. And in that encounter, the Rider said to me, "Blessed in the man that makes God his trust."
Now if you want to trust your psychiatrist or trust in these drugs, reject what I have been saying here. But if you do believe that that there is a God that created the heavens and the Earth and said, "Let there be light", then take this opportunity to continue our discussion.
Lou
Posted by Lou Pilder on August 6, 2015, at 20:47:22
In reply to Lou's reply-wtrsoflyph » rockerchick46, posted by Lou Pilder on August 6, 2015, at 20:15:26
> > > > Lou,
> > > > seriously-are you a nut case? Stop ranting about modern medicine and get some help. It is very useful for most people.
> > >
> > > rkrchk,
> > > You wrote,[...Stop ranting about modern medicine...].
> > > Be not deceived. The "medicine" being allowed to be seen here as being supportive is nothing new, but an ancient way that groups of people used to kill and to cause others to have their minds altered so that they became controlled by those that pandered the drugs thousands of years ago.
> > > The drugs came form plants and other sources and the "science" was called in the Greek, {pharmakeia}. The Greek word translated into English is {sorcery}. In the ancient times, a sorcerer was one that used mind-altering drugs for purposes that in my faith are condemned. This is where we get the word, pharmacy, as from the Greek, pharmakeia. The sorcerers got the users addicted by the drugs used , mainly from Opium, and the users were controlled by the dealers of the drugs because they were addicted and needed to get the drugs from the sorcerers and became slaves. Other drugs not from Opium also were used that were hallucinogenic. Some drugs were euphoric and some were poisons such as from Hemlock. Other drugs from hemp could cause homicidal thinking and those people could be turned into assassins. The drugs could induce a mind-altering state creating psychosis. The psychiatric drugs today that are modern can induce psychosis also. And they can induce homicidal and suicidal thoughts just like the days of old. And the addiction from the modern drugs is just like the other ones.
> > > This is nothing new, the drugging of people. And for thousands of years countries have executed those that used these type of drugs as the horror from the consequences are plainly visible cause even to even innocent people. Many countries today execute people caught with Opium products and other drugs. Your "modern" drugs can addict and kill and cause homicidal thinking just like the assassins from the days of old and their chemical structure is patterned after those drugs of old. Ritakin is similar to cocaine. Many of your "modern" drugs are like Opium, made in a laboratory and carry even worse addiction potential coming from an era of time that I am prevented here from educating you about due to the prohibitions posted to me here by Mr. Hsiung, yet he can post the swastika here.
> > > And many here are allowed to post to take a combination of these modern drugs, which can raise the horrific consequences including death exponentially. I post here to warn you. I do not want children to suffer a horrible death by them. And the deaths here are not caused by me, and their blood will not be upon me.
> > > Lou
> >
> > I see. So tell me, what about all the people that the medicine helps?-that seems to be left out of your post , here.
> > Tammy
>
> Tammy,
> You wrote,[...the people that the (drugs) help...].
> There are people that are helped by having these drugs given them, but the help could be from the placebo effect. And when that stops, the person thinks that they need a different drug. But they could be addicted to the first drug unbeknownst to them. Then another drug is added and on and on until the drugeee is hooked on multiple chemical addictions and could be unbeknownst to them that it is the drugs are now his/her problem. And to withdrawal from these multiple addictions could put them into a mind-altered state to want to kill themselves or even go on an assassination spree into movie houses, schools, shopping centers, workplaces and churches ect.
> You see, the danger in the placebo effect is that the drugee could put their trust in drugs and just because they felt a little bit better at first, they could then chase the magic bullet for the rest of their lives, but what if they die before they find it or get tardive dyskinesia or diabetes or heart or liver failure or a blood disease? And here, you see the multitude of posters trying to find another drug or a combination of drugs as they could have put their trust in drugs.
> There are thousands of people each and every month killed by these drugs. They did not find what they trusted in, for they found death. And the piper pipes on television showing happy people taking Cymbalta and Abilify and other drugs and children playing and music in the background. That could persuade viewers to think that trusting in drugs is what one needs to do for them to be happy.
> Now I would not give you false hopes. For what I could post that is prohibited by Mr. Hsiung could give you the hope that leads to eternal life. A hope that never fails. For this hope is promised by the God that I give service and worship to that leads you back to the green fields that you used to know, by the still waters, pure so that you become purified by drinking the water of life.
> I have come here to lead you to the waters of life that purify you from the addictions from the drugs that the psychiatrist gave you. And this God that I give service and worship to says that there is a fountain of living waters. This fountain is flowing right now waiting for those to come freely without price to partake of the water of life.
> The drugs that the psychiatrist gives you attacks the frontal lobes of your brain, and the drugee could then not care as the brain is being shut down in a way in its thinking capacity and there could be then a sort of relief from what the drugee is experiencing. But that does not cure anything or make what is troubling the drugee go away.
> And when I had an encounter with a Rider on a white horse, He said to me, "Let not your heart be troubled. If you believe in God, believe in me also. For out of your deepest emotions shall there flow a fountain of living waters."
> You see, I have come to tell you how you could be made free from the shackles of addiction by the purifying waters of life. The hope from the waters of life are not the same as the hope from drugs given to you by the psychiatrist. And in that encounter, the Rider said to me, "Blessed in the man that makes God his trust."
> Now if you want to trust your psychiatrist or trust in these drugs, reject what I have been saying here. But if you do believe that that there is a God that created the heavens and the Earth and said, "Let there be light", then take this opportunity to continue our discussion.
> Lou
Posted by Lou Pilder on August 6, 2015, at 20:57:30
In reply to Lou's reply-, posted by Lou Pilder on August 6, 2015, at 20:47:22
> > > > > Lou,
> > > > > seriously-are you a nut case? Stop ranting about modern medicine and get some help. It is very useful for most people.
> > > >
> > > > rkrchk,
> > > > You wrote,[...Stop ranting about modern medicine...].
> > > > Be not deceived. The "medicine" being allowed to be seen here as being supportive is nothing new, but an ancient way that groups of people used to kill and to cause others to have their minds altered so that they became controlled by those that pandered the drugs thousands of years ago.
> > > > The drugs came form plants and other sources and the "science" was called in the Greek, {pharmakeia}. The Greek word translated into English is {sorcery}. In the ancient times, a sorcerer was one that used mind-altering drugs for purposes that in my faith are condemned. This is where we get the word, pharmacy, as from the Greek, pharmakeia. The sorcerers got the users addicted by the drugs used , mainly from Opium, and the users were controlled by the dealers of the drugs because they were addicted and needed to get the drugs from the sorcerers and became slaves. Other drugs not from Opium also were used that were hallucinogenic. Some drugs were euphoric and some were poisons such as from Hemlock. Other drugs from hemp could cause homicidal thinking and those people could be turned into assassins. The drugs could induce a mind-altering state creating psychosis. The psychiatric drugs today that are modern can induce psychosis also. And they can induce homicidal and suicidal thoughts just like the days of old. And the addiction from the modern drugs is just like the other ones.
> > > > This is nothing new, the drugging of people. And for thousands of years countries have executed those that used these type of drugs as the horror from the consequences are plainly visible cause even to even innocent people. Many countries today execute people caught with Opium products and other drugs. Your "modern" drugs can addict and kill and cause homicidal thinking just like the assassins from the days of old and their chemical structure is patterned after those drugs of old. Ritakin is similar to cocaine. Many of your "modern" drugs are like Opium, made in a laboratory and carry even worse addiction potential coming from an era of time that I am prevented here from educating you about due to the prohibitions posted to me here by Mr. Hsiung, yet he can post the swastika here.
> > > > And many here are allowed to post to take a combination of these modern drugs, which can raise the horrific consequences including death exponentially. I post here to warn you. I do not want children to suffer a horrible death by them. And the deaths here are not caused by me, and their blood will not be upon me.
> > > > Lou
> > >
> > > I see. So tell me, what about all the people that the medicine helps?-that seems to be left out of your post , here.
> > > Tammy
> >
> > Tammy,
> > You wrote,[...the people that the (drugs) help...].
> > There are people that are helped by having these drugs given them, but the help could be from the placebo effect. And when that stops, the person thinks that they need a different drug. But they could be addicted to the first drug unbeknownst to them. Then another drug is added and on and on until the drugeee is hooked on multiple chemical addictions and could be unbeknownst to them that it is the drugs are now his/her problem. And to withdrawal from these multiple addictions could put them into a mind-altered state to want to kill themselves or even go on an assassination spree into movie houses, schools, shopping centers, workplaces and churches ect.
> > You see, the danger in the placebo effect is that the drugee could put their trust in drugs and just because they felt a little bit better at first, they could then chase the magic bullet for the rest of their lives, but what if they die before they find it or get tardive dyskinesia or diabetes or heart or liver failure or a blood disease? And here, you see the multitude of posters trying to find another drug or a combination of drugs as they could have put their trust in drugs.
> > There are thousands of people each and every month killed by these drugs. They did not find what they trusted in, for they found death. And the piper pipes on television showing happy people taking Cymbalta and Abilify and other drugs and children playing and music in the background. That could persuade viewers to think that trusting in drugs is what one needs to do for them to be happy.
> > Now I would not give you false hopes. For what I could post that is prohibited by Mr. Hsiung could give you the hope that leads to eternal life. A hope that never fails. For this hope is promised by the God that I give service and worship to that leads you back to the green fields that you used to know, by the still waters, pure so that you become purified by drinking the water of life.
> > I have come here to lead you to the waters of life that purify you from the addictions from the drugs that the psychiatrist gave you. And this God that I give service and worship to says that there is a fountain of living waters. This fountain is flowing right now waiting for those to come freely without price to partake of the water of life.
> > The drugs that the psychiatrist gives you attacks the frontal lobes of your brain, and the drugee could then not care as the brain is being shut down in a way in its thinking capacity and there could be then a sort of relief from what the drugee is experiencing. But that does not cure anything or make what is troubling the drugee go away.
> > And when I had an encounter with a Rider on a white horse, He said to me, "Let not your heart be troubled. If you believe in God, believe in me also. For out of your deepest emotions shall there flow a fountain of living waters."
> > You see, I have come to tell you how you could be made free from the shackles of addiction by the purifying waters of life. The hope from the waters of life are not the same as the hope from drugs given to you by the psychiatrist. And in that encounter, the Rider said to me, "Blessed in the man that makes God his trust."
> > Now if you want to trust your psychiatrist or trust in these drugs, reject what I have been saying here. But if you do believe that that there is a God that created the heavens and the Earth and said, "Let there be light", then take this opportunity to continue our discussion.
> > Lou
>
> Friends,
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTZvnAF7UsAFriends,
My apology for posting the youtube link to the Cymbalta commercial. In the comments under, there ia a word that could offend others. Please delete this post.
Lou
Posted by rockerchick46 on August 7, 2015, at 8:36:37
In reply to Lou's reply-wtrsoflyph » rockerchick46, posted by Lou Pilder on August 6, 2015, at 20:15:26
> > > > Lou,
> > > > seriously-are you a nut case? Stop ranting about modern medicine and get some help. It is very useful for most people.
> > >
> > > rkrchk,
> > > You wrote,[...Stop ranting about modern medicine...].
> > > Be not deceived. The "medicine" being allowed to be seen here as being supportive is nothing new, but an ancient way that groups of people used to kill and to cause others to have their minds altered so that they became controlled by those that pandered the drugs thousands of years ago.
> > > The drugs came form plants and other sources and the "science" was called in the Greek, {pharmakeia}. The Greek word translated into English is {sorcery}. In the ancient times, a sorcerer was one that used mind-altering drugs for purposes that in my faith are condemned. This is where we get the word, pharmacy, as from the Greek, pharmakeia. The sorcerers got the users addicted by the drugs used , mainly from Opium, and the users were controlled by the dealers of the drugs because they were addicted and needed to get the drugs from the sorcerers and became slaves. Other drugs not from Opium also were used that were hallucinogenic. Some drugs were euphoric and some were poisons such as from Hemlock. Other drugs from hemp could cause homicidal thinking and those people could be turned into assassins. The drugs could induce a mind-altering state creating psychosis. The psychiatric drugs today that are modern can induce psychosis also. And they can induce homicidal and suicidal thoughts just like the days of old. And the addiction from the modern drugs is just like the other ones.
> > > This is nothing new, the drugging of people. And for thousands of years countries have executed those that used these type of drugs as the horror from the consequences are plainly visible cause even to even innocent people. Many countries today execute people caught with Opium products and other drugs. Your "modern" drugs can addict and kill and cause homicidal thinking just like the assassins from the days of old and their chemical structure is patterned after those drugs of old. Ritakin is similar to cocaine. Many of your "modern" drugs are like Opium, made in a laboratory and carry even worse addiction potential coming from an era of time that I am prevented here from educating you about due to the prohibitions posted to me here by Mr. Hsiung, yet he can post the swastika here.
> > > And many here are allowed to post to take a combination of these modern drugs, which can raise the horrific consequences including death exponentially. I post here to warn you. I do not want children to suffer a horrible death by them. And the deaths here are not caused by me, and their blood will not be upon me.
> > > Lou
> >
> > I see. So tell me, what about all the people that the medicine helps?-that seems to be left out of your post , here.
> > Tammy
>
> Tammy,
> You wrote,[...the people that the (drugs) help...].
> There are people that are helped by having these drugs given them, but the help could be from the placebo effect. And when that stops, the person thinks that they need a different drug. But they could be addicted to the first drug unbeknownst to them. Then another drug is added and on and on until the drugeee is hooked on multiple chemical addictions and could be unbeknownst to them that it is the drugs are now his/her problem. And to withdrawal from these multiple addictions could put them into a mind-altered state to want to kill themselves or even go on an assassination spree into movie houses, schools, shopping centers, workplaces and churches ect.
> You see, the danger in the placebo effect is that the drugee could put their trust in drugs and just because they felt a little bit better at first, they could then chase the magic bullet for the rest of their lives, but what if they die before they find it or get tardive dyskinesia or diabetes or heart or liver failure or a blood disease? And here, you see the multitude of posters trying to find another drug or a combination of drugs as they could have put their trust in drugs.
> There are thousands of people each and every month killed by these drugs. They did not find what they trusted in, for they found death. And the piper pipes on television showing happy people taking Cymbalta and Abilify and other drugs and children playing and music in the background. That could persuade viewers to think that trusting in drugs is what one needs to do for them to be happy.
> Now I would not give you false hopes. For what I could post that is prohibited by Mr. Hsiung could give you the hope that leads to eternal life. A hope that never fails. For this hope is promised by the God that I give service and worship to that leads you back to the green fields that you used to know, by the still waters, pure so that you become purified by drinking the water of life.
> I have come here to lead you to the waters of life that purify you from the addictions from the drugs that the psychiatrist gave you. And this God that I give service and worship to says that there is a fountain of living waters. This fountain is flowing right now waiting for those to come freely without price to partake of the water of life.
> The drugs that the psychiatrist gives you attacks the frontal lobes of your brain, and the drugee could then not care as the brain is being shut down in a way in its thinking capacity and there could be then a sort of relief from what the drugee is experiencing. But that does not cure anything or make what is troubling the drugee go away.
> And when I had an encounter with a Rider on a white horse, He said to me, "Let not your heart be troubled. If you believe in God, believe in me also. For out of your deepest emotions shall there flow a fountain of living waters."
> You see, I have come to tell you how you could be made free from the shackles of addiction by the purifying waters of life. The hope from the waters of life are not the same as the hope from drugs given to you by the psychiatrist. And in that encounter, the Rider said to me, "Blessed in the man that makes God his trust."
> Now if you want to trust your psychiatrist or trust in these drugs, reject what I have been saying here. But if you do believe that that there is a God that created the heavens and the Earth and said, "Let there be light", then take this opportunity to continue our discussion.
> Lou
Lou,
I happen to a) believe in God and b)already have a religion. If you want to discuss faith or lack therof this should be on the faith board.
I do not believe that religious faith and the practice of modern medicine are mutually exclusive and this seems to be where we differ.
TammyPS 1) sorcerers belong in the Middle Ages
2) I didn't see anything wrong or upsetting about the Cymbalta commercial. Its a commercial. It is supposed to sell stuff. That is what they are for. This is a capitalist society.
Posted by SLS on August 7, 2015, at 8:41:15
In reply to Re: Lou's reply-wtrsoflyph, posted by rockerchick46 on August 7, 2015, at 8:36:37
> Lou,
> I happen to a) believe in God and b)already have a religion. If you want to discuss faith or lack therof this should be on the faith board.
> I do not believe that religious faith and the practice of modern medicine are mutually exclusive and this seems to be where we differ.
> Tammy
>
> PS 1) sorcerers belong in the Middle Ages
> 2) I didn't see anything wrong or upsetting about the Cymbalta commercial. Its a commercial. It is supposed to sell stuff. That is what they are for. This is a capitalist society.Very, very well said.
- Scott
Posted by rockerchick46 on August 7, 2015, at 12:12:26
In reply to Well said. » rockerchick46, posted by SLS on August 7, 2015, at 8:41:15
Thank you, Scott :-)
Tammy
Posted by Lamdage22 on August 7, 2015, at 12:17:43
In reply to Re: Lou's reply-wtrsoflyph, posted by rockerchick46 on August 7, 2015, at 8:36:37
> 2) I didn't see anything wrong or upsetting about the Cymbalta commercial. Its a commercial. It is supposed to sell stuff. That is what they are for. This is a capitalist society.
It is almost funny that this commercial actually sells stuff.
Posted by Lou Pilder on August 8, 2015, at 6:33:49
In reply to Re: Lou's reply-wtrsoflyph, posted by rockerchick46 on August 7, 2015, at 8:36:37
> > > > > Lou,
> > > > > seriously-are you a nut case? Stop ranting about modern medicine and get some help. It is very useful for most people.
> > > >
> > > > rkrchk,
> > > > You wrote,[...Stop ranting about modern medicine...].
> > > > Be not deceived. The "medicine" being allowed to be seen here as being supportive is nothing new, but an ancient way that groups of people used to kill and to cause others to have their minds altered so that they became controlled by those that pandered the drugs thousands of years ago.
> > > > The drugs came form plants and other sources and the "science" was called in the Greek, {pharmakeia}. The Greek word translated into English is {sorcery}. In the ancient times, a sorcerer was one that used mind-altering drugs for purposes that in my faith are condemned. This is where we get the word, pharmacy, as from the Greek, pharmakeia. The sorcerers got the users addicted by the drugs used , mainly from Opium, and the users were controlled by the dealers of the drugs because they were addicted and needed to get the drugs from the sorcerers and became slaves. Other drugs not from Opium also were used that were hallucinogenic. Some drugs were euphoric and some were poisons such as from Hemlock. Other drugs from hemp could cause homicidal thinking and those people could be turned into assassins. The drugs could induce a mind-altering state creating psychosis. The psychiatric drugs today that are modern can induce psychosis also. And they can induce homicidal and suicidal thoughts just like the days of old. And the addiction from the modern drugs is just like the other ones.
> > > > This is nothing new, the drugging of people. And for thousands of years countries have executed those that used these type of drugs as the horror from the consequences are plainly visible cause even to even innocent people. Many countries today execute people caught with Opium products and other drugs. Your "modern" drugs can addict and kill and cause homicidal thinking just like the assassins from the days of old and their chemical structure is patterned after those drugs of old. Ritakin is similar to cocaine. Many of your "modern" drugs are like Opium, made in a laboratory and carry even worse addiction potential coming from an era of time that I am prevented here from educating you about due to the prohibitions posted to me here by Mr. Hsiung, yet he can post the swastika here.
> > > > And many here are allowed to post to take a combination of these modern drugs, which can raise the horrific consequences including death exponentially. I post here to warn you. I do not want children to suffer a horrible death by them. And the deaths here are not caused by me, and their blood will not be upon me.
> > > > Lou
> > >
> > > I see. So tell me, what about all the people that the medicine helps?-that seems to be left out of your post , here.
> > > Tammy
> >
> > Tammy,
> > You wrote,[...the people that the (drugs) help...].
> > There are people that are helped by having these drugs given them, but the help could be from the placebo effect. And when that stops, the person thinks that they need a different drug. But they could be addicted to the first drug unbeknownst to them. Then another drug is added and on and on until the drugeee is hooked on multiple chemical addictions and could be unbeknownst to them that it is the drugs are now his/her problem. And to withdrawal from these multiple addictions could put them into a mind-altered state to want to kill themselves or even go on an assassination spree into movie houses, schools, shopping centers, workplaces and churches ect.
> > You see, the danger in the placebo effect is that the drugee could put their trust in drugs and just because they felt a little bit better at first, they could then chase the magic bullet for the rest of their lives, but what if they die before they find it or get tardive dyskinesia or diabetes or heart or liver failure or a blood disease? And here, you see the multitude of posters trying to find another drug or a combination of drugs as they could have put their trust in drugs.
> > There are thousands of people each and every month killed by these drugs. They did not find what they trusted in, for they found death. And the piper pipes on television showing happy people taking Cymbalta and Abilify and other drugs and children playing and music in the background. That could persuade viewers to think that trusting in drugs is what one needs to do for them to be happy.
> > Now I would not give you false hopes. For what I could post that is prohibited by Mr. Hsiung could give you the hope that leads to eternal life. A hope that never fails. For this hope is promised by the God that I give service and worship to that leads you back to the green fields that you used to know, by the still waters, pure so that you become purified by drinking the water of life.
> > I have come here to lead you to the waters of life that purify you from the addictions from the drugs that the psychiatrist gave you. And this God that I give service and worship to says that there is a fountain of living waters. This fountain is flowing right now waiting for those to come freely without price to partake of the water of life.
> > The drugs that the psychiatrist gives you attacks the frontal lobes of your brain, and the drugee could then not care as the brain is being shut down in a way in its thinking capacity and there could be then a sort of relief from what the drugee is experiencing. But that does not cure anything or make what is troubling the drugee go away.
> > And when I had an encounter with a Rider on a white horse, He said to me, "Let not your heart be troubled. If you believe in God, believe in me also. For out of your deepest emotions shall there flow a fountain of living waters."
> > You see, I have come to tell you how you could be made free from the shackles of addiction by the purifying waters of life. The hope from the waters of life are not the same as the hope from drugs given to you by the psychiatrist. And in that encounter, the Rider said to me, "Blessed in the man that makes God his trust."
> > Now if you want to trust your psychiatrist or trust in these drugs, reject what I have been saying here. But if you do believe that that there is a God that created the heavens and the Earth and said, "Let there be light", then take this opportunity to continue our discussion.
> > Lou
> Lou,
> I happen to a) believe in God and b)already have a religion. If you want to discuss faith or lack therof this should be on the faith board.
> I do not believe that religious faith and the practice of modern medicine are mutually exclusive and this seems to be where we differ.
> Tammy
>
> PS 1) sorcerers belong in the Middle Ages
> 2) I didn't see anything wrong or upsetting about the Cymbalta commercial. Its a commercial. It is supposed to sell stuff. That is what they are for. This is a capitalist society.
>rc,
You wrote,[...I..believe in God...].
Which God?
Lou
Posted by SLS on August 8, 2015, at 8:05:14
In reply to Lou's reply- » rockerchick46, posted by Lou Pilder on August 8, 2015, at 6:33:49
> rc,
> You wrote,[...I..believe in God...].
> Which God?If you are curious about the various concepts of God as embraced by others, you should take this curiosity elsewhere. It doesn't belong on the Medication forum. Your question doesn't even qualify as being civil on the Faith forum of this website. It is not supportive. If you are willing to restrict your comments to your own religious beliefs, I suggest that you visit the Faith forum.
- Scott
Posted by rockerchick46 on August 8, 2015, at 10:27:01
In reply to Lou's reply- » rockerchick46, posted by Lou Pilder on August 8, 2015, at 6:33:49
> > > > > > Lou,
> > > > > > seriously-are you a nut case? Stop ranting about modern medicine and get some help. It is very useful for most people.
> > > > >
> > > > > rkrchk,
> > > > > You wrote,[...Stop ranting about modern medicine...].
> > > > > Be not deceived. The "medicine" being allowed to be seen here as being supportive is nothing new, but an ancient way that groups of people used to kill and to cause others to have their minds altered so that they became controlled by those that pandered the drugs thousands of years ago.
> > > > > The drugs came form plants and other sources and the "science" was called in the Greek, {pharmakeia}. The Greek word translated into English is {sorcery}. In the ancient times, a sorcerer was one that used mind-altering drugs for purposes that in my faith are condemned. This is where we get the word, pharmacy, as from the Greek, pharmakeia. The sorcerers got the users addicted by the drugs used , mainly from Opium, and the users were controlled by the dealers of the drugs because they were addicted and needed to get the drugs from the sorcerers and became slaves. Other drugs not from Opium also were used that were hallucinogenic. Some drugs were euphoric and some were poisons such as from Hemlock. Other drugs from hemp could cause homicidal thinking and those people could be turned into assassins. The drugs could induce a mind-altering state creating psychosis. The psychiatric drugs today that are modern can induce psychosis also. And they can induce homicidal and suicidal thoughts just like the days of old. And the addiction from the modern drugs is just like the other ones.
> > > > > This is nothing new, the drugging of people. And for thousands of years countries have executed those that used these type of drugs as the horror from the consequences are plainly visible cause even to even innocent people. Many countries today execute people caught with Opium products and other drugs. Your "modern" drugs can addict and kill and cause homicidal thinking just like the assassins from the days of old and their chemical structure is patterned after those drugs of old. Ritakin is similar to cocaine. Many of your "modern" drugs are like Opium, made in a laboratory and carry even worse addiction potential coming from an era of time that I am prevented here from educating you about due to the prohibitions posted to me here by Mr. Hsiung, yet he can post the swastika here.
> > > > > And many here are allowed to post to take a combination of these modern drugs, which can raise the horrific consequences including death exponentially. I post here to warn you. I do not want children to suffer a horrible death by them. And the deaths here are not caused by me, and their blood will not be upon me.
> > > > > Lou
> > > >
> > > > I see. So tell me, what about all the people that the medicine helps?-that seems to be left out of your post , here.
> > > > Tammy
> > >
> > > Tammy,
> > > You wrote,[...the people that the (drugs) help...].
> > > There are people that are helped by having these drugs given them, but the help could be from the placebo effect. And when that stops, the person thinks that they need a different drug. But they could be addicted to the first drug unbeknownst to them. Then another drug is added and on and on until the drugeee is hooked on multiple chemical addictions and could be unbeknownst to them that it is the drugs are now his/her problem. And to withdrawal from these multiple addictions could put them into a mind-altered state to want to kill themselves or even go on an assassination spree into movie houses, schools, shopping centers, workplaces and churches ect.
> > > You see, the danger in the placebo effect is that the drugee could put their trust in drugs and just because they felt a little bit better at first, they could then chase the magic bullet for the rest of their lives, but what if they die before they find it or get tardive dyskinesia or diabetes or heart or liver failure or a blood disease? And here, you see the multitude of posters trying to find another drug or a combination of drugs as they could have put their trust in drugs.
> > > There are thousands of people each and every month killed by these drugs. They did not find what they trusted in, for they found death. And the piper pipes on television showing happy people taking Cymbalta and Abilify and other drugs and children playing and music in the background. That could persuade viewers to think that trusting in drugs is what one needs to do for them to be happy.
> > > Now I would not give you false hopes. For what I could post that is prohibited by Mr. Hsiung could give you the hope that leads to eternal life. A hope that never fails. For this hope is promised by the God that I give service and worship to that leads you back to the green fields that you used to know, by the still waters, pure so that you become purified by drinking the water of life.
> > > I have come here to lead you to the waters of life that purify you from the addictions from the drugs that the psychiatrist gave you. And this God that I give service and worship to says that there is a fountain of living waters. This fountain is flowing right now waiting for those to come freely without price to partake of the water of life.
> > > The drugs that the psychiatrist gives you attacks the frontal lobes of your brain, and the drugee could then not care as the brain is being shut down in a way in its thinking capacity and there could be then a sort of relief from what the drugee is experiencing. But that does not cure anything or make what is troubling the drugee go away.
> > > And when I had an encounter with a Rider on a white horse, He said to me, "Let not your heart be troubled. If you believe in God, believe in me also. For out of your deepest emotions shall there flow a fountain of living waters."
> > > You see, I have come to tell you how you could be made free from the shackles of addiction by the purifying waters of life. The hope from the waters of life are not the same as the hope from drugs given to you by the psychiatrist. And in that encounter, the Rider said to me, "Blessed in the man that makes God his trust."
> > > Now if you want to trust your psychiatrist or trust in these drugs, reject what I have been saying here. But if you do believe that that there is a God that created the heavens and the Earth and said, "Let there be light", then take this opportunity to continue our discussion.
> > > Lou
> > Lou,
> > I happen to a) believe in God and b)already have a religion. If you want to discuss faith or lack therof this should be on the faith board.
> > I do not believe that religious faith and the practice of modern medicine are mutually exclusive and this seems to be where we differ.
> > Tammy
> >
> > PS 1) sorcerers belong in the Middle Ages
> > 2) I didn't see anything wrong or upsetting about the Cymbalta commercial. Its a commercial. It is supposed to sell stuff. That is what they are for. This is a capitalist society.
> >
>
> rc,
> You wrote,[...I..believe in God...].
> Which God?
> Lou
This one
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/God
seriously--Which God? are you that out of it? Or are you trying to imply that I worship the Devil?
Tammy
Posted by Lou Pilder on August 8, 2015, at 13:52:23
In reply to Re: Lou's reply-, posted by rockerchick46 on August 8, 2015, at 10:27:01
> > > > > > > Lou,
> > > > > > > seriously-are you a nut case? Stop ranting about modern medicine and get some help. It is very useful for most people.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > rkrchk,
> > > > > > You wrote,[...Stop ranting about modern medicine...].
> > > > > > Be not deceived. The "medicine" being allowed to be seen here as being supportive is nothing new, but an ancient way that groups of people used to kill and to cause others to have their minds altered so that they became controlled by those that pandered the drugs thousands of years ago.
> > > > > > The drugs came form plants and other sources and the "science" was called in the Greek, {pharmakeia}. The Greek word translated into English is {sorcery}. In the ancient times, a sorcerer was one that used mind-altering drugs for purposes that in my faith are condemned. This is where we get the word, pharmacy, as from the Greek, pharmakeia. The sorcerers got the users addicted by the drugs used , mainly from Opium, and the users were controlled by the dealers of the drugs because they were addicted and needed to get the drugs from the sorcerers and became slaves. Other drugs not from Opium also were used that were hallucinogenic. Some drugs were euphoric and some were poisons such as from Hemlock. Other drugs from hemp could cause homicidal thinking and those people could be turned into assassins. The drugs could induce a mind-altering state creating psychosis. The psychiatric drugs today that are modern can induce psychosis also. And they can induce homicidal and suicidal thoughts just like the days of old. And the addiction from the modern drugs is just like the other ones.
> > > > > > This is nothing new, the drugging of people. And for thousands of years countries have executed those that used these type of drugs as the horror from the consequences are plainly visible cause even to even innocent people. Many countries today execute people caught with Opium products and other drugs. Your "modern" drugs can addict and kill and cause homicidal thinking just like the assassins from the days of old and their chemical structure is patterned after those drugs of old. Ritakin is similar to cocaine. Many of your "modern" drugs are like Opium, made in a laboratory and carry even worse addiction potential coming from an era of time that I am prevented here from educating you about due to the prohibitions posted to me here by Mr. Hsiung, yet he can post the swastika here.
> > > > > > And many here are allowed to post to take a combination of these modern drugs, which can raise the horrific consequences including death exponentially. I post here to warn you. I do not want children to suffer a horrible death by them. And the deaths here are not caused by me, and their blood will not be upon me.
> > > > > > Lou
> > > > >
> > > > > I see. So tell me, what about all the people that the medicine helps?-that seems to be left out of your post , here.
> > > > > Tammy
> > > >
> > > > Tammy,
> > > > You wrote,[...the people that the (drugs) help...].
> > > > There are people that are helped by having these drugs given them, but the help could be from the placebo effect. And when that stops, the person thinks that they need a different drug. But they could be addicted to the first drug unbeknownst to them. Then another drug is added and on and on until the drugeee is hooked on multiple chemical addictions and could be unbeknownst to them that it is the drugs are now his/her problem. And to withdrawal from these multiple addictions could put them into a mind-altered state to want to kill themselves or even go on an assassination spree into movie houses, schools, shopping centers, workplaces and churches ect.
> > > > You see, the danger in the placebo effect is that the drugee could put their trust in drugs and just because they felt a little bit better at first, they could then chase the magic bullet for the rest of their lives, but what if they die before they find it or get tardive dyskinesia or diabetes or heart or liver failure or a blood disease? And here, you see the multitude of posters trying to find another drug or a combination of drugs as they could have put their trust in drugs.
> > > > There are thousands of people each and every month killed by these drugs. They did not find what they trusted in, for they found death. And the piper pipes on television showing happy people taking Cymbalta and Abilify and other drugs and children playing and music in the background. That could persuade viewers to think that trusting in drugs is what one needs to do for them to be happy.
> > > > Now I would not give you false hopes. For what I could post that is prohibited by Mr. Hsiung could give you the hope that leads to eternal life. A hope that never fails. For this hope is promised by the God that I give service and worship to that leads you back to the green fields that you used to know, by the still waters, pure so that you become purified by drinking the water of life.
> > > > I have come here to lead you to the waters of life that purify you from the addictions from the drugs that the psychiatrist gave you. And this God that I give service and worship to says that there is a fountain of living waters. This fountain is flowing right now waiting for those to come freely without price to partake of the water of life.
> > > > The drugs that the psychiatrist gives you attacks the frontal lobes of your brain, and the drugee could then not care as the brain is being shut down in a way in its thinking capacity and there could be then a sort of relief from what the drugee is experiencing. But that does not cure anything or make what is troubling the drugee go away.
> > > > And when I had an encounter with a Rider on a white horse, He said to me, "Let not your heart be troubled. If you believe in God, believe in me also. For out of your deepest emotions shall there flow a fountain of living waters."
> > > > You see, I have come to tell you how you could be made free from the shackles of addiction by the purifying waters of life. The hope from the waters of life are not the same as the hope from drugs given to you by the psychiatrist. And in that encounter, the Rider said to me, "Blessed in the man that makes God his trust."
> > > > Now if you want to trust your psychiatrist or trust in these drugs, reject what I have been saying here. But if you do believe that that there is a God that created the heavens and the Earth and said, "Let there be light", then take this opportunity to continue our discussion.
> > > > Lou
> > > Lou,
> > > I happen to a) believe in God and b)already have a religion. If you want to discuss faith or lack therof this should be on the faith board.
> > > I do not believe that religious faith and the practice of modern medicine are mutually exclusive and this seems to be where we differ.
> > > Tammy
> > >
> > > PS 1) sorcerers belong in the Middle Ages
> > > 2) I didn't see anything wrong or upsetting about the Cymbalta commercial. Its a commercial. It is supposed to sell stuff. That is what they are for. This is a capitalist society.
> > >
> >
> > rc,
> > You wrote,[...I..believe in God...].
> > Which God?
> > Lou
> This one
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/God
> seriously--Which God? are you that out of it? Or are you trying to imply that I worship the Devil?
> Tammy
>
T,
You wrote the above.
As to worshiping the devil, what criteria do you use to make that determination as to if anyone is worshiping the devil?
Lou
Posted by SLS on August 8, 2015, at 15:43:00
In reply to Lou's reply-yehhzgdpsead, posted by Lou Pilder on August 8, 2015, at 13:52:23
> > > rc,
> > > You wrote,[...I..believe in God...].
> > > Which God?
> > > Lou
> > This one
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/God
> > seriously--Which God? are you that out of it? Or are you trying to imply that I worship the Devil?
> > Tammy
> >
> T,
> You wrote the above.
> As to worshiping the devil, what criteria do you use to make that determination as to if anyone is worshiping the devil?
> Lou
>If you are curious about the various concepts of God as embraced by others, you should take this curiosity elsewhere. It doesn't belong on the Medication forum. Your question doesn't even qualify as being civil on the Faith forum of this website. It is not supportive. If you are willing to restrict your comments to your own religious beliefs, I suggest that you visit the Faith forum.
* Please show some respect for this website and its members.
- Scott
Posted by SLS on August 8, 2015, at 15:45:39
In reply to Re: Lou's reply-, posted by rockerchick46 on August 8, 2015, at 10:27:01
Perhaps it is best not to engage.
:-)
- Scott
Posted by Phillipa on August 8, 2015, at 18:26:46
In reply to Perhaps... » rockerchick46, posted by SLS on August 8, 2015, at 15:45:39
Agree hence don't post here anymore. Phillipa
Posted by SLS on August 8, 2015, at 19:36:51
In reply to Re: Perhaps..., posted by Phillipa on August 8, 2015, at 18:26:46
> Agree hence don't post here anymore. Phillipa
Unfortunately, you are not alone in this. You are greatly missed.
- Scott
Posted by Phillipa on August 8, 2015, at 20:02:19
In reply to Re: Perhaps... » Phillipa, posted by SLS on August 8, 2015, at 19:36:51
Scott that is sweet and nice to know. Phillipa
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