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Dr. Bob is Robert Hsiung, MD,
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Posted by Tepiacapower on August 7, 2015, at 5:57:31
Nice to see you again guys
I was away for some years and I am back. I was great to see same names here
I just need a little help and I thought in psychobabble friends
In the last 5 years I stopped all my meds and I was taking only Xanax for sleeping at nigth.
I was doing so so .
I return to see a dr and he put me on Altruline ( Sertraline ) 50 mg and it helped with my social anxiety. I have been on it like 6 monthsI just wanted to let you know that I have been suffering from bad insomnia and I dont know how to fix it. This started like 2 weeks ago . Not even Xanax help me now, I don't know what is happening. I like to drink coffee , and I have been doing it for the last 10 years , but I never had insomnia problems with caffeine .
I used sometime Melatonine and I helped me to rest better. SO now I am taking Xanax (0.5mg) + Melatonine , but I can sleep for more than 2 hrs . I dont know what has caused this
Can you give me some advice please
Thank you
Tepi
Posted by Lou Pilder on August 7, 2015, at 7:50:45
In reply to Hello I am back for a while, posted by Tepiacapower on August 7, 2015, at 5:57:31
> Nice to see you again guys
> I was away for some years and I am back. I was great to see same names here
> I just need a little help and I thought in psychobabble friends
> In the last 5 years I stopped all my meds and I was taking only Xanax for sleeping at nigth.
> I was doing so so .
> I return to see a dr and he put me on Altruline ( Sertraline ) 50 mg and it helped with my social anxiety. I have been on it like 6 months
>
> I just wanted to let you know that I have been suffering from bad insomnia and I dont know how to fix it. This started like 2 weeks ago . Not even Xanax help me now, I don't know what is happening. I like to drink coffee , and I have been doing it for the last 10 years , but I never had insomnia problems with caffeine .
> I used sometime Melatonine and I helped me to rest better. SO now I am taking Xanax (0.5mg) + Melatonine , but I can sleep for more than 2 hrs . I dont know what has caused this
> Can you give me some advice please
> Thank you
> Tepi
>
Tepi,
You wrote,[...Xanax...Sertraline...bad case of insomnia...can you give me some advise...?].
What you got here is that the chemicals in the drugs have entered components in your brain that effect their operation and control of your humanness, such as sleep being one part of this.
The benzodiazepine in Xanax has predictable consequences as in your case taking this drug for years. But it is much worse than that. For the other drug is an off-shoot of naphthalene derived from coal tar that is toxic and used in insecticides. Mothballs are naphthalene and the vapors kill insects. There are serious neurological consequences from taking naphthalene in any form and can cause cancer.
The withdrawal from Xanax could be horrific and along with the mothball chemical in Zoloft, if you ever try to decide to become free from all these drugs, you could kill yourself and/or others during withdrawing from these drugs.
The insomnia could be the beginning of sorrows. Then there could be more reactions from the chemicals in the drugs to induce even worse to you, for the neurotoxicity of the drugs can go deep into the brain as the drug Zoloft is also chlorinated. This is a technique by the chemist to make the drug penetrate the brain deeper, like also fluorinating the drug as in Prozac, Celexa, Lexapro, Luvox, and Lexapro.
The real tragedy here is that being a drugee, your druger could see you as a chemical depository to experiment on you with even more drugs that can kill components in your brain and induce life-ruining conditions and addictions beyond what you already got such as blood diseases. Mothballs with naphthalene are illegal in China, yet they export naphthalene to other countries. The fumes could kill insects by destroying chemical actions between nerve cells which can happen to you. Naphthalene is also used to kill parasitic worms. The killing is done by shorting out the nerves. This process is well-known and I am prevented from posting here about it due to the prohibitions posted to me here by Mr. Hsiung, yet he can post the swastika.
Can your insomnia stop and have your natural sleep restored? I am prevented to post here how that could happen to you by the prohibitions to me from Mr. Hsiung.
Lou
Posted by SLS on August 7, 2015, at 8:19:30
In reply to Hello I am back for a while, posted by Tepiacapower on August 7, 2015, at 5:57:31
Hi.
It's nice to see you again. I just wish you were not having difficulties.
* I disagree with Mr. Pilder.
There are a bunch of things you can try.
I'm not sure which route is best for you. You can switch antidepressants or add low dosages of a sedating antidepressant like of Remeron or trazodone. Some people use low dosages of Seroquel. There is a new sleeping medication called Belsomra (suvorexant). It is the first of a new class of drug to come to market. It works on orexin receptors rather than benzodiazepine receptors.
I'm sure others will be able to provide you with more ideas.
- Scott
Posted by Lou Pilder on August 7, 2015, at 9:55:22
In reply to Re: Hello I am back for a while » Tepiacapower, posted by SLS on August 7, 2015, at 8:19:30
> Hi.
>
> It's nice to see you again. I just wish you were not having difficulties.
>
> * I disagree with Mr. Pilder.
>
> There are a bunch of things you can try.
>
> I'm not sure which route is best for you. You can switch antidepressants or add low dosages of a sedating antidepressant like of Remeron or trazodone. Some people use low dosages of Seroquel. There is a new sleeping medication called Belsomra (suvorexant). It is the first of a new class of drug to come to market. It works on orexin receptors rather than benzodiazepine receptors.
>
> I'm sure others will be able to provide you with more ideas.
>
>
> - Scott
Friends,
Scott is advocating the experimentation with several drugs that could kill the person already taking Xanax and Zoloft. And if they don't kill the person, the thinking of the person could be so impaired from the drugs that they do not know what decisions to make that could lead to their death.
The death could come from serotonin syndrome or heart failure from the combining of the drugs advocated because when the drugs are combined, their effects are increased exponentially.
The horrible tragedy here is that there could be a psychiatrist that could go along with Scott here and actually prescribe the advocated drugs to the poster here. There are thousands of people killed each month and every month by these drugs prescribed by a psychiatrist/doctor taken as prescribed that kills them. Then there is the tragic happening where the drugee already has the drugs shelved from a previous prescription and by passes the prescriber and is killed by the drug.
And you mothers, trying so hard to make the right decision for your child as to drug them or not in collaboration with a psychiatrist/doctor. And you have come here to see that the rule here is that what stands is what is being supportive and worse, if it is not supportive and it is standing, it will be good for this community to see it that way for the whole of the group in Mr. Hsiung's thinking. This could result in the death of your child or a lifetime of life-ruining conditions that could lead to addiction and suicide or mass-murder. I come here to help you decide about drugging your child and if you drug your child with these drugs and your child suffers a horrible death by them, their blood will not be upon me.
Lou
Posted by Lou Pilder on August 7, 2015, at 9:56:53
In reply to Re: Hello I am back for a while » Tepiacapower, posted by SLS on August 7, 2015, at 8:19:30
> Hi.
>
> It's nice to see you again. I just wish you were not having difficulties.
>
> * I disagree with Mr. Pilder.
>
> There are a bunch of things you can try.
>
> I'm not sure which route is best for you. You can switch antidepressants or add low dosages of a sedating antidepressant like of Remeron or trazodone. Some people use low dosages of Seroquel. There is a new sleeping medication called Belsomra (suvorexant). It is the first of a new class of drug to come to market. It works on orexin receptors rather than benzodiazepine receptors.
>
> I'm sure others will be able to provide you with more ideas.
>
>
> - Scott
Friends,
Scott is advocating the experimentation with several drugs that could kill the person already taking Xanax and Zoloft. And if they don't kill the person, the thinking of the person could be so impaired from the drugs that they do not know what decisions to make that could lead to their death.
The death could come from serotonin syndrome or heart failure from the combining of the drugs advocated because when the drugs are combined, their effects are increased exponentially.
The horrible tragedy here is that there could be a psychiatrist that could go along with Scott here and actually prescribe the advocated drugs to the poster here. There are thousands of people killed each month and every month by these drugs prescribed by a psychiatrist/doctor taken as prescribed that kills them. Then there is the tragic happening where the drugee already has the drugs shelved from a previous prescription and by passes the prescriber and is killed by the drug.
And you mothers, trying so hard to make the right decision for your child as to drug them or not in collaboration with a psychiatrist/doctor. And you have come here to see that the rule here is that what stands is what is being supportive and worse, if it is not supportive and it is standing, it will be good for this community to see it that way for the whole of the group in Mr. Hsiung's thinking. This could result in the death of your child or a lifetime of life-ruining conditions that could lead to addiction and suicide or mass-murder. I come here to help you decide about drugging your child and if you drug your child with these drugs and your child suffers a horrible death by them, their blood will not be upon me.
Lou
Posted by rockerchick46 on August 8, 2015, at 10:31:12
In reply to Lou's response-a buch of things to try » SLS, posted by Lou Pilder on August 7, 2015, at 9:56:53
> > Hi.
> >
> > It's nice to see you again. I just wish you were not having difficulties.
> >
> > * I disagree with Mr. Pilder.
> >
> > There are a bunch of things you can try.
> >
> > I'm not sure which route is best for you. You can switch antidepressants or add low dosages of a sedating antidepressant like of Remeron or trazodone. Some people use low dosages of Seroquel. There is a new sleeping medication called Belsomra (suvorexant). It is the first of a new class of drug to come to market. It works on orexin receptors rather than benzodiazepine receptors.
> >
> > I'm sure others will be able to provide you with more ideas.
> >
> >
> > - Scott
> Friends,
> Scott is advocating the experimentation with several drugs that could kill the person already taking Xanax and Zoloft. And if they don't kill the person, the thinking of the person could be so impaired from the drugs that they do not know what decisions to make that could lead to their death.
> The death could come from serotonin syndrome or heart failure from the combining of the drugs advocated because when the drugs are combined, their effects are increased exponentially.
> The horrible tragedy here is that there could be a psychiatrist that could go along with Scott here and actually prescribe the advocated drugs to the poster here. There are thousands of people killed each month and every month by these drugs prescribed by a psychiatrist/doctor taken as prescribed that kills them. Then there is the tragic happening where the drugee already has the drugs shelved from a previous prescription and by passes the prescriber and is killed by the drug.
> And you mothers, trying so hard to make the right decision for your child as to drug them or not in collaboration with a psychiatrist/doctor. And you have come here to see that the rule here is that what stands is what is being supportive and worse, if it is not supportive and it is standing, it will be good for this community to see it that way for the whole of the group in Mr. Hsiung's thinking. This could result in the death of your child or a lifetime of life-ruining conditions that could lead to addiction and suicide or mass-murder. I come here to help you decide about drugging your child and if you drug your child with these drugs and your child suffers a horrible death by them, their blood will not be upon me.
> Lou
So carried away and misguided, Lou-i suppose you would prefer that this person suicide because they have run out of options?
Tammy
Posted by Lou Pilder on August 8, 2015, at 11:17:10
In reply to Re: Lou's response-a buch of things to try, posted by rockerchick46 on August 8, 2015, at 10:31:12
> > > Hi.
> > >
> > > It's nice to see you again. I just wish you were not having difficulties.
> > >
> > > * I disagree with Mr. Pilder.
> > >
> > > There are a bunch of things you can try.
> > >
> > > I'm not sure which route is best for you. You can switch antidepressants or add low dosages of a sedating antidepressant like of Remeron or trazodone. Some people use low dosages of Seroquel. There is a new sleeping medication called Belsomra (suvorexant). It is the first of a new class of drug to come to market. It works on orexin receptors rather than benzodiazepine receptors.
> > >
> > > I'm sure others will be able to provide you with more ideas.
> > >
> > >
> > > - Scott
> > Friends,
> > Scott is advocating the experimentation with several drugs that could kill the person already taking Xanax and Zoloft. And if they don't kill the person, the thinking of the person could be so impaired from the drugs that they do not know what decisions to make that could lead to their death.
> > The death could come from serotonin syndrome or heart failure from the combining of the drugs advocated because when the drugs are combined, their effects are increased exponentially.
> > The horrible tragedy here is that there could be a psychiatrist that could go along with Scott here and actually prescribe the advocated drugs to the poster here. There are thousands of people killed each month and every month by these drugs prescribed by a psychiatrist/doctor taken as prescribed that kills them. Then there is the tragic happening where the drugee already has the drugs shelved from a previous prescription and by passes the prescriber and is killed by the drug.
> > And you mothers, trying so hard to make the right decision for your child as to drug them or not in collaboration with a psychiatrist/doctor. And you have come here to see that the rule here is that what stands is what is being supportive and worse, if it is not supportive and it is standing, it will be good for this community to see it that way for the whole of the group in Mr. Hsiung's thinking. This could result in the death of your child or a lifetime of life-ruining conditions that could lead to addiction and suicide or mass-murder. I come here to help you decide about drugging your child and if you drug your child with these drugs and your child suffers a horrible death by them, their blood will not be upon me.
> > Lou
> So carried away and misguided, Lou-i suppose you would prefer that this person suicide because they have run out of options?
> Tammy
>
Friends,
Tammy wrote,[...carried away and misguided..you would prefer that this person kill themselves because they have run out of options...].
I come here to save lives so it is not my preference that anyone kill themselves. But Tammy's statements about me are much more than that. You see, I have made a great study concerning the drugs advocated here as "medicines" and way before the FDA mandated a warning put on these drugs that they can increase suicidal thoughts, I knew many years ago from the history of the development of these drugs that not only could they increase suicidal thoughts, but these drugs could induce life-ruining conditions and addictions and cause the drugee to be turned into an assassin, shooting in shopping malls, schools, theaters, workplaces, churches, ect., even killing their own family members. And now the evidence is coming out. And now there are those that pretend that they just don't see. How many deaths will it take before readers listen to me? And how many posters will be allowed to continue to defame me here with hate that could cause you to be led to your death?
You see, readers, as log as the members here are allowed to post what could decrease the respect, regard and confidence in which I am held, you could discard what I am writing about for those messages seen as being supportive here by Mr. Hsiung could induce hostile and disagreeable opinions and feelings toward me that could be transferred into a mind-set of hate, hate that could lead you to kill yourself or others. There is no anti-suicide drug, for the army is trying to develop one. People who take these drugs could go into a mind-altered state to be compelled to kill themselves. And if they stop them, they could go into a withdrawal state so horrific that killing themselves is preferred.
Readers, don't let this site fool you into thinking poorly of me because defamation is allowed by Mr. Hsiung to be heaped upon me here and anti-Semitic propaganda is allowed to be posted with impunity by him. He can control the content here, and he can post the swastika. But the blood of the dead from here will not be upon me.
Lou
Posted by rockerchick46 on August 10, 2015, at 9:20:56
In reply to Lou's reply-Lou's warning-the blood of the dead » rockerchick46, posted by Lou Pilder on August 8, 2015, at 11:17:10
Lou,
I don't think this is going anywhere positive or constructive so please do not post to me.And I am not anti-Semitic - I resent the implication.
Tammy
Posted by Lou Pilder on August 10, 2015, at 10:13:59
In reply to Re: Lou's reply-Lou's warning-the blood of the dead, posted by rockerchick46 on August 10, 2015, at 9:20:56
> Lou,
> I don't think this is going anywhere positive or constructive so please do not post to me.
>
> And I am not anti-Semitic - I resent the implication.
>
> TammyFriends,
It is written above that the discussion is determined right now by the poster that the conclusion made by her is that continuing the discussion could not lead to something positive or constructive. How could she know that in advance? Does she know what I could post in any continuation of the discussion, or is there something that she does not want to be revealed?
Then the poster says that it is implied that she is anti-Semitic. To be anti-Semitic means to spread enmity against the Jews, or post what could lead a Jew to feel put down or insult or defame Judaism itself among other well-known understandings of historical anti-Semitism used to persecute the Jews. The overriding issue in this discussion is the indifference to my request to post what criteria she uses to determine is someone is a devil worshiper. This is connected to the use of mind-altering chemicals be it from a psychiatrist or in the historical record those that used drugs to alter the mind or kill that were called the pharmakeia in the Greek, translated into English as "sorcerer".
So there is a critical aspect in the discussion that could be unbeknownst to you that IMHO could save your life if:
The criteria that the poster uses to determine if a person is a devil worshiper is posted here per my request to her to identify those criteria.
Since the poster refuses to post those identifying aspects, and Mr. Hsiung will not require her to do so, there could be a runaway thinking here of all kinds of speculation as to what the poster means by devil worship. Could this arouse antisemitic feelings here by the refusal to post these identifying aspects? It depends on who is reading this. There are people here that Mr. Hsiung calls less-confident people. And by that labeling of people by Mr. Hsiung, there could be other stereotyped people as well according to him. And he makes a rule to accommodate those people so that I have to be limited as to how many consecutive posts that I can post here where others are allowed to post more than 3 consecutive posts with impunity by him. This treats me in a more restrictive manner than the other members here and combined with that I am denied equal protection of the rules by Mr. Hsiung, I am under a tremendous disadvantage here to post my reply here to this poster which could lead a subset of readers to think that this is an anti-Semitic site as my notifications are the only ones that Mr. Hsiung says that he can not act on, which allows anti-Semitism to flourish from here by anti-Semitic statements being allowed by Mr. Hsiung to be seen as being supportive and that he thinks by doing so, it will be good for is community as a whole. Good? Where on this earth is anti-Semitism allowed by the state "good"?.
So I ask you to see that anti-Semitic passages are allowed to be seen here as supportive that could induce into a subset of people the idea that Jews are inferior to Christiandom people and that Judaism itself has been replaced by Christiandom which has its historical implication in the murder of innocent Jewish children. I will show you how anti-Semitism is created an developed here providing the rule of 3 consecutive posts does not apply, for if the poster did post the criteria requested, then your eyes could be opened to The Great Deception that I am prohibited to post here by Mr. Hsiung
Lou
Posted by Lou Pilder on August 10, 2015, at 10:36:05
In reply to Lou's response-crehytandevel, posted by Lou Pilder on August 10, 2015, at 10:13:59
> > Lou,
> > I don't think this is going anywhere positive or constructive so please do not post to me.
> >
> > And I am not anti-Semitic - I resent the implication.
> >
> > Tammy
>
> Friends,
> It is written above that the discussion is determined right now by the poster that the conclusion made by her is that continuing the discussion could not lead to something positive or constructive. How could she know that in advance? Does she know what I could post in any continuation of the discussion, or is there something that she does not want to be revealed?
> Then the poster says that it is implied that she is anti-Semitic. To be anti-Semitic means to spread enmity against the Jews, or post what could lead a Jew to feel put down or insult or defame Judaism itself among other well-known understandings of historical anti-Semitism used to persecute the Jews. The overriding issue in this discussion is the indifference to my request to post what criteria she uses to determine is someone is a devil worshiper. This is connected to the use of mind-altering chemicals be it from a psychiatrist or in the historical record those that used drugs to alter the mind or kill that were called the pharmakeia in the Greek, translated into English as "sorcerer".
> So there is a critical aspect in the discussion that could be unbeknownst to you that IMHO could save your life if:
> The criteria that the poster uses to determine if a person is a devil worshiper is posted here per my request to her to identify those criteria.
> Since the poster refuses to post those identifying aspects, and Mr. Hsiung will not require her to do so, there could be a runaway thinking here of all kinds of speculation as to what the poster means by devil worship. Could this arouse antisemitic feelings here by the refusal to post these identifying aspects? It depends on who is reading this. There are people here that Mr. Hsiung calls less-confident people. And by that labeling of people by Mr. Hsiung, there could be other stereotyped people as well according to him. And he makes a rule to accommodate those people so that I have to be limited as to how many consecutive posts that I can post here where others are allowed to post more than 3 consecutive posts with impunity by him. This treats me in a more restrictive manner than the other members here and combined with that I am denied equal protection of the rules by Mr. Hsiung, I am under a tremendous disadvantage here to post my reply here to this poster which could lead a subset of readers to think that this is an anti-Semitic site as my notifications are the only ones that Mr. Hsiung says that he can not act on, which allows anti-Semitism to flourish from here by anti-Semitic statements being allowed by Mr. Hsiung to be seen as being supportive and that he thinks by doing so, it will be good for is community as a whole. Good? Where on this earth is anti-Semitism allowed by the state "good"?.
> So I ask you to see that anti-Semitic passages are allowed to be seen here as supportive that could induce into a subset of people the idea that Jews are inferior to Christiandom people and that Judaism itself has been replaced by Christiandom which has its historical implication in the murder of innocent Jewish children. I will show you how anti-Semitism is created an developed here providing the rule of 3 consecutive posts does not apply, for if the poster did post the criteria requested, then your eyes could be opened to The Great Deception that I am prohibited to post here by Mr. Hsiung
> Lou
>
Friends,
If you are considering to continue to read here or even post here, I am requesting that you go to a Bible and read: John 8:44 paying attention to [...you are of your father...] as well as the rest of the verse.
You see, the lies against the Jews being allowed to be seen here as being supportive, could create and develop an anti-Semitic state of mind in a subset of readers that already have swallowed the hatred toward the Jews promulgated historically in the lies perpetrated for centuries about the Jews. And this site has it's goal to be for support and education and to trust Mr. Hsiung that he is doing in his own thinking what will be good for this community as a whole. Where on this earth do people trust their leader to allow anti-Semitic hate to be seen as being condoned by the leader on the justification that it will be good for the community as a whole? Can you see it, tell me if you see it.
You see, the justification that something being done is justified by the leader on the grounds that it will be good for the community as a whole is the same justification for justifying slavery, and infanticide, and segregation and genocide. And many went that way persuaded by the leader to have anti-Semitism state-sponsored. And that can happen again. I say, never again.
Lou
Posted by Lou Pilder on August 10, 2015, at 11:38:32
In reply to Lou's response-yurfaddur, posted by Lou Pilder on August 10, 2015, at 10:36:05
> > > Lou,
> > > I don't think this is going anywhere positive or constructive so please do not post to me.
> > >
> > > And I am not anti-Semitic - I resent the implication.
> > >
> > > Tammy
> >
> > Friends,
> > It is written above that the discussion is determined right now by the poster that the conclusion made by her is that continuing the discussion could not lead to something positive or constructive. How could she know that in advance? Does she know what I could post in any continuation of the discussion, or is there something that she does not want to be revealed?
> > Then the poster says that it is implied that she is anti-Semitic. To be anti-Semitic means to spread enmity against the Jews, or post what could lead a Jew to feel put down or insult or defame Judaism itself among other well-known understandings of historical anti-Semitism used to persecute the Jews. The overriding issue in this discussion is the indifference to my request to post what criteria she uses to determine is someone is a devil worshiper. This is connected to the use of mind-altering chemicals be it from a psychiatrist or in the historical record those that used drugs to alter the mind or kill that were called the pharmakeia in the Greek, translated into English as "sorcerer".
> > So there is a critical aspect in the discussion that could be unbeknownst to you that IMHO could save your life if:
> > The criteria that the poster uses to determine if a person is a devil worshiper is posted here per my request to her to identify those criteria.
> > Since the poster refuses to post those identifying aspects, and Mr. Hsiung will not require her to do so, there could be a runaway thinking here of all kinds of speculation as to what the poster means by devil worship. Could this arouse antisemitic feelings here by the refusal to post these identifying aspects? It depends on who is reading this. There are people here that Mr. Hsiung calls less-confident people. And by that labeling of people by Mr. Hsiung, there could be other stereotyped people as well according to him. And he makes a rule to accommodate those people so that I have to be limited as to how many consecutive posts that I can post here where others are allowed to post more than 3 consecutive posts with impunity by him. This treats me in a more restrictive manner than the other members here and combined with that I am denied equal protection of the rules by Mr. Hsiung, I am under a tremendous disadvantage here to post my reply here to this poster which could lead a subset of readers to think that this is an anti-Semitic site as my notifications are the only ones that Mr. Hsiung says that he can not act on, which allows anti-Semitism to flourish from here by anti-Semitic statements being allowed by Mr. Hsiung to be seen as being supportive and that he thinks by doing so, it will be good for is community as a whole. Good? Where on this earth is anti-Semitism allowed by the state "good"?.
> > So I ask you to see that anti-Semitic passages are allowed to be seen here as supportive that could induce into a subset of people the idea that Jews are inferior to Christiandom people and that Judaism itself has been replaced by Christiandom which has its historical implication in the murder of innocent Jewish children. I will show you how anti-Semitism is created an developed here providing the rule of 3 consecutive posts does not apply, for if the poster did post the criteria requested, then your eyes could be opened to The Great Deception that I am prohibited to post here by Mr. Hsiung
> > Lou
> >
> Friends,
> If you are considering to continue to read here or even post here, I am requesting that you go to a Bible and read: John 8:44 paying attention to [...you are of your father...] as well as the rest of the verse.
> You see, the lies against the Jews being allowed to be seen here as being supportive, could create and develop an anti-Semitic state of mind in a subset of readers that already have swallowed the hatred toward the Jews promulgated historically in the lies perpetrated for centuries about the Jews. And this site has it's goal to be for support and education and to trust Mr. Hsiung that he is doing in his own thinking what will be good for this community as a whole. Where on this earth do people trust their leader to allow anti-Semitic hate to be seen as being condoned by the leader on the justification that it will be good for the community as a whole? Can you see it, tell me if you see it.
> You see, the justification that something being done is justified by the leader on the grounds that it will be good for the community as a whole is the same justification for justifying slavery, and infanticide, and segregation and genocide. And many went that way persuaded by the leader to have anti-Semitism state-sponsored. And that can happen again. I say, never again.
> Lou
>
Friends,
If you are considering understanding how anti-Semitic hate is created and developed here I am asking for you to stay reading this thread.
In order to create and develop anti-Semitism in a community, the leader uses the members of the community to be those that ignite and carry the flame of hate and stoke the furnace of hate against the Jews. These people get immunity from the leader so that the flame of hate can continue to be spread like a forest fire that could become an inferno enveloping even the other members of the community as they are told to trust the leader by the leader himself because he thinks that anti-Semitism allowed to be spread as a fire of hate will be good for his community as a whole.
So how do you find those that are in concert with Mr. Hsiung in spreading lies about the Jews creating a mind-set of acceptance of hatred toward the Jews.
Here is one such post that allows Jews to be defamed as being inferior to Christiandom people as Jews are being put down and insulted by the statement by the poster. Let us examine the real-world hatred toward the Jews that the lie in his post has been used for centuries to persecute the Jews, burning them alive, committing atrocities to Jewish children, expelling them from their country, committing genocide, ghettoizing them to starvation. That was all done on the justification that it would be good for their community as a whole by the leader and those that were in concert with the leader(s).
Here is one such post allowed to be seen as being supportive by Mr. Hsiung as he is unwilling now to post a repudiation to the post where it is originally posted. And worse, since Mr. Hsiung gives himself the self-made exemption from his policy to act on notifications by not acting on mine, my notification is not acted on denying me the equal protection of his rules that if he did not use discrimination toward me here, this post to follow would have been acted on and the fire of hate could have been put out. Since he will not act on the post where it is originally posted, the fire of hate is still burning, as the post becomes a perpetual flame of hatred toward the Jews.
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20140902/msgs/1075029.html
Posted by herpills on August 10, 2015, at 17:30:40
In reply to Lou's response-crehytandevel, posted by Lou Pilder on August 10, 2015, at 10:13:59
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> Friends,
> It is written above that the discussion is determined right now by the poster that the conclusion made by her is that continuing the discussion could not lead to something positive or constructive. How could she know that in advance?
She knows because it's what happens every . single . time you post, all the time, over and over, every single time, always. She knows because your reputation precedes you. She knows. We all know.
Posted by herpills on August 10, 2015, at 17:31:59
In reply to Lou's response-the orchestra leader, posted by Lou Pilder on August 10, 2015, at 11:38:32
Posted by Lou Pilder on August 11, 2015, at 6:55:19
In reply to Re: Lou's response-crehytandevel » Lou Pilder, posted by herpills on August 10, 2015, at 17:30:40
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> >
> > Friends,
> > It is written above that the discussion is determined right now by the poster that the conclusion made by her is that continuing the discussion could not lead to something positive or constructive. How could she know that in advance?
>
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> She knows because it's what happens every . single . time you post, all the time, over and over, every single time, always. She knows because your reputation precedes you. She knows. We all know.
>
> hp,
What constitutes being positive or constructive?
Lou
Posted by rockerchick46 on August 11, 2015, at 7:56:02
In reply to Lou's request- pozahtive or kunstrktyv » herpills, posted by Lou Pilder on August 11, 2015, at 6:55:19
1) Not changing the subject line on all your posts to nonsense language
2) letting people discuss what this board is about
3) Only contributing to discussions where you have something to say to the poster, about what they posted, not your own agenda
4) not fighting with Dr Bob
5) ETC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
6) Not screaming 'Anti-Semitism" every 2 seconds
7) Not trying to antagonize peopleTammy
Posted by Lou Pilder on August 11, 2015, at 8:45:01
In reply to Re: Lou's request- pozahtive or kunstrktyv, posted by rockerchick46 on August 11, 2015, at 7:56:02
> 1) Not changing the subject line on all your posts to nonsense language
> 2) letting people discuss what this board is about
> 3) Only contributing to discussions where you have something to say to the poster, about what they posted, not your own agenda
> 4) not fighting with Dr Bob
> 5) ETC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> 6) Not screaming 'Anti-Semitism" every 2 seconds
> 7) Not trying to antagonize people
>
> TammyTammy,
What is this board about?
Lou
Posted by rockerchick46 on August 11, 2015, at 9:13:14
In reply to Re: Lou's request- pozahtive or kunstrktyv, posted by Lou Pilder on August 11, 2015, at 8:45:01
Lou,
If you have to ask what this board is about maybe you should not be on it..
Tammy
Posted by herpills on August 11, 2015, at 15:03:19
In reply to Re: Lou's request- pozahtive or kunstrktyv, posted by Lou Pilder on August 11, 2015, at 8:45:01
> What is this board about?
> LouIt's right at the top of the home page:
"This is a message board for mutual support and education. It focuses on medication-related issues."
I don't see anything there about turning everyone's post into a pointless, endless argument that you are a victim of anti-semitism.
I don't see anything there about whining and carrying on about the "prohibitions" of Dr. Bob.
I don't see anything there about hijacking threads and making it all about you. It's not always about you, Lou. But I'm sure we can count on you to make it about you you you forever and ever.
Again, "This is a message board for mutual support and education. It focuses on medication-related issues."
This is the end of the thread.
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