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Posted by rjlockhart37 on September 23, 2014, at 1:05:22
hey it's me, i'm reading they may regulate the vape's, there was a statement that i read in an article "bring smoking back into indoors, only non tabacco"
so....would you know what's gonna happen, because i've found, just like you told me, the vape is better and safer than ciggerettes, i don't even want to know what my lungs look like from chain smoking during stressful periods.....the fda needs to know it's safe, and will not cause harm like the tabacco smoke.....
do you know what there gonna do in the regulation? i really hope they don't take em off the shelves, and remove the e-juice flavors
Posted by Phil on September 23, 2014, at 18:17:43
In reply to phil?, posted by rjlockhart37 on September 23, 2014, at 1:05:22
rj, they have said(believe it or not)that they want to ban all ecigs made after 2009, I think. All ecigs then were crap compared to the advancement in today's technology.
They do not want vendors to be able to sell juice in bottles because of potential bacteria issues. Propylene glycol loves killing bacteria.. I'm not going to get fatal bacteria cancer. We've never had issues with tons of vapers getting sick from any vendors e liquid. The kissing cousins, the fda and bt, want a tiny pre-loaded carto filled with rancid juice on a 30 minute battery only. Who makes those anyway? Big Tobacco does. CASSA(our side)is volunteer no pay and they work day jobs. They might have $30,000 and one lawyer to fight the government. rj, they are putting out anti-ecig propaganda every single day and just like with pot, much of the public believes them.
I always get crazy thinking about people willing to kill other people for trying to save their lives so the bad guys get all of the cash. Every politician in the world has lost friends or relatives to lung cancer just like everyone knows of someone that's died that way. It is time for marching in the streets and I'll drive to Washington DC and do it if we can get 20,000 vapers to do it. Wrong is wrong and any idiot can see that this is just wrong. No different from a 12 year old in Sunday school calling bs on immaculate conception to a teacher that knows faith. IOW, they really 'know' nothing. I need a break. :)
Posted by rjlockhart37 on September 24, 2014, at 23:11:19
In reply to Re: phil? » rjlockhart37, posted by Phil on September 23, 2014, at 18:17:43
i just got the vape and i'm smoking it right now, seriously, and people at my communitie college smoke vape's in the library while there studying, i went down today to check out a book and saw a guy puffin on one studying
god.....will they just leave the stuff alone!!!! it's not a substance only but nicotine.....
so whats is gonna happen do you know? are they gonna remove the liquids and even the vape's? do you know the regulation rules there trying to make, i googled it couple times, im reading mainly about flavored fluids are not favored.....and they are trying to ban eciggs from inside too.....
Posted by Phil on September 25, 2014, at 11:39:54
In reply to Re: phil?, posted by rjlockhart37 on September 24, 2014, at 23:11:19
The fda has over 400 pages of deeming regulations for ecigs. nobody knows what's going to happen. Casaa's lawyer is good and wrote a 57 page rebuttal. For now, it's out of our hands until we hear from the fda.
to be politically correct, you don't smoke ecigs, you are a vaper who vapes ecigs. If you tell someone you smoke them then they will call you a smoker. You are only a smoker if you smoke. The public thinks we are still smoking. IOW, they don't know their *ss from a hole in the ground.
I follow smokers rules when vaping. I vape only where smokers can smoke. If you get approval to vape somewhere, great. If you don't then don't do it. But always ASK first no matter if you see someone vaping in a restaurant or any where else. It hurts the cause if we push it on others and it shows good manners if nothing else.Smoking is the past, vaping is the future, and the future is now.
Posted by Phil on September 27, 2014, at 9:43:12
In reply to Re: phil?, posted by rjlockhart37 on September 24, 2014, at 23:11:19
The fog from an egig.
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Posted by rjlockhart37 on September 27, 2014, at 13:04:26
In reply to Re: phil? » rjlockhart37, posted by Phil on September 27, 2014, at 9:43:12
LOL yea my vape is like a pen, i got it for 26 dollers at a smoke shop, they of course had better ones that where around 69.00 and more dollers
i use the 24mg nicotine fluid, i can only smoke a little bit because of the high dose, ill have to move down to 18mg, if i keep smokin the vape at that dose, it makes me irrtible....too much nico but with about 5 swiffs im in a better mood and a bit motivated to do things for a short while....
what kinda of vape is that?
r
Posted by Phil on September 28, 2014, at 12:12:31
In reply to Re: phil?, posted by rjlockhart37 on September 27, 2014, at 13:04:26
http://www.provape.com/# Expensive, American made and it will work every time forever. Best $200 I've ever spent. That included big batteries and a good charger. Also, you can set your voltage, check the ohms of your atomizer and many other things. I have the ProVari V2 in stainless steel.
This tank outfitted with the new vertical coils is the best vape I've ever gotten plus it holds 5 ml of juice. Pyrex, no plastic. You get all the flavor with this thing. http://www.myvaporstore.com/Aspire_Nautilus_Adjustable_Airflow_Tank_System_p/ap-na-k.htm
I'm finished spending money on hardware for a long time.
Posted by rjlockhart37 on September 29, 2014, at 21:51:39
In reply to Re: phil? » rjlockhart37, posted by Phil on September 28, 2014, at 12:12:31
thanks phil.....i have a cheap one, even though i paid 26 bucks for it, it still looks cheap, looks like a imposter designer pen.....and i have to get another carterage or the thing that holds the fluid, the one i have right now is so stupid.....maybe just totally by throw it away
thank you, the one you showed me is 25 bucks.....sounds good
thanks!!
r
Posted by Phil on October 1, 2014, at 14:10:13
In reply to Re: phil?, posted by rjlockhart37 on September 29, 2014, at 21:51:39
rj, we have all been there. Most of us started on pen style vapes. It's completely acceptable and a smart move for starting out. As you feel more comfortable with vaping and that it's what you want, you can upgrade. One step at a time. :) You should hear some of the bonehead moves I've made. lol Plus a pen style was very common to vapers a few years back. It's just the constant new innovations are overwhelming and coming so fast that I don't even try to keep up.
I would compare it to 2 new antipsychotics hitting the market every week and 6 months later a new one comes out everyday. It is that fast.
If you and me were good at building ecig devices that were superior to others for the price..if we were in business we would be rich. They would sell worldwide overnight. When someone hits with a really great product everyone has to have it, some people buy 6 $100 items when one would do..worldwide. There's a product that holds juice and is the best thing out right now, the kayfun lite plus rebuildable atomizer. hundred bucks. everyone is coming out with clones and all of them are selling like crazy. If we came up with 3 killer juices that practically every vaper liked or invented a better kayfun factories would run 24/7 in China which they may be doing now. The demand right now is so strong that the suppliers can't keep up.
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