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Posted by iowamoo on April 9, 2014, at 19:51:05
I know I asked about this but I have to ask again:
I'm just baffled how this med at only half of the .25 mgs can make such a difference! I'm working up to a full.25 though but how can this med make me do things like clean and organize and not bicker with others? ! I'm loving this med so far (knocking on wood) but I just don't get how such a small dose can have any impact like this! I'm taking it for mood control and my husband noticed a difference on only half of the .25 as did I. I've even gotten to show a bit of affection towards my husband (long story) without cringing, I'm laughing, thinking clearer and sharper, feeling smarter, more decisive and plain feeling like a new person and I've not thrown anything in days though i've had a few urges but found out my blood sugar was getting low and now I have run off a Few times a stream of cuss words but I'm sure when I get to the full .25(tonight) that things will continue to get better. I am NOT depressed at all nor was I. I just don't understand how this pill that some refer to as poison can make me feel this way? Will this wear off as I get use to the dose? The other thing about this med is the crazy dreams, last night was with homer and Marge Simpson, I don't remember it but I remember being with them and they were cartoons but real size life like and I was talking to them LoL.This is my 2nd time on this med and i got off it before because i was afraid of seizures and diabetes stuff but i just could not get the thought out of my head of how even keeled i felt but not numb by any means. I can feel that feeling coming back again. I'm not as afraid as i was then but i am seeing a neurologist May 12th to discuss my fears and phobias of the seizures with this med and possible alternatives like Lamictal though i worry about the rash with that.
I see why they call them "mood stabalizers" so glad it didnt stabalize my bad mood lol!
so any insight on what the heck this med is doing to me would be great and sorry for repeating it again but this is a bit different then last thread.
Posted by LouisianaSportsman on April 9, 2014, at 19:53:39
In reply to Risperdal Questions again, posted by iowamoo on April 9, 2014, at 19:51:50
I've read about about a poster on another forum who also had great results on .25mg.
Posted by LouisianaSportsman on April 9, 2014, at 19:54:53
In reply to Re: Risperdal Questions again, posted by LouisianaSportsman on April 9, 2014, at 19:53:39
Forgot to mention that he started off with half too.
Posted by Christ_empowered on April 9, 2014, at 20:03:26
In reply to Re: Risperdal Questions again, posted by LouisianaSportsman on April 9, 2014, at 19:54:53
really low dose tranquilizers can calm you down, maybe elevate mood a bit, reduce agitation and anxiety...without too many side effects.
Way back when, they'd use stelazine, trilafon, even thorazine, for this. Look at the old school Thorazine ads. Back then, ads were just for docs, so they didn't even advertise thorazine as an antipsychotic; they just called it a tranquilizer and recommended low low doses for...everything...in just about any situation, lol. They'd even mix it with amphetamines.
You're not a freak or anything. Risperdal is relatively high potency. Push the dose high enough and it acts like Haldol, just much more expensive. So...
OK. I looked it up. 2mgs/Risperidone=100mgs Thorazine, so your dose is like 12.5mgs/Thorazine. Doesn't seem like much--it isn't, really--but its probably enough to chill you out a bit.
Posted by Phillipa on April 9, 2014, at 22:18:16
In reply to Re: Risperdal Questions again, posted by Christ_empowered on April 9, 2014, at 20:03:26
I didn't know there was a conversion rate to older antipsychotics. How does it compare to say valium? CE you are a wealth of knowledge. Thanks Phillipa
Posted by iowamoo on April 9, 2014, at 22:37:12
In reply to Re: Risperdal Questions again » Christ_empowered, posted by Phillipa on April 9, 2014, at 22:18:16
I also take valium but only 2.5 mgs do just half of a 5 mg and it's enough to take the edge off when I get anxiety. I get anxiety from the risperdal when I increase it or Judy having an off day. I've never felt any interaction though my psych Dr discourages use of the valium it's easy for her to say lol
Posted by ed_uk2010 on April 10, 2014, at 15:18:04
In reply to Re: Risperdal Questions again » Christ_empowered, posted by Phillipa on April 9, 2014, at 22:18:16
> I didn't know there was a conversion rate to older antipsychotics. How does it compare to say valium? (Risperdal)
Difficult to compare Phillipa, since it's a completely different class of medication.
Posted by baseball55 on April 10, 2014, at 19:59:56
In reply to Risperdal Questions again, posted by iowamoo on April 9, 2014, at 19:51:05
I took risperdal for severe anxiety and depression. Within hours I felt great, as you describe. Within weeks, I had gained 12 pounds.
I love AAPs. But I can't take them because of the weight gain.
Posted by Phillipa on April 10, 2014, at 20:27:17
In reply to Re: Risperdal Questions again » Phillipa, posted by ed_uk2010 on April 10, 2014, at 15:18:04
Ed that's what I thought. PJ
Posted by phidippus on April 11, 2014, at 14:26:30
In reply to Risperdal Questions again, posted by iowamoo on April 9, 2014, at 19:51:05
Risperdal is controlling your mania and possibly helping with anxiety. It is not providing true mood stabilization, however.
Eric
Posted by alfbarks007 on April 12, 2014, at 13:18:29
In reply to Re: Risperdal Questions again » iowamoo, posted by phidippus on April 11, 2014, at 14:26:30
well then I have to ask how do you determine that it is only helping mania and not true mood stabilizing?
Posted by iowamoo on April 12, 2014, at 13:21:34
In reply to Re: Risperdal Questions again » iowamoo, posted by phidippus on April 11, 2014, at 14:26:30
I believe this is making my anxiety worse.
I really miss in the beginning how it made me feel and now I feel crappy once again.
I feel much better with mood control and handling things as they come like not flying off the handle with my husband and grandkids and other of life's annoyances so please tell me how you come to that conclusion and what I would have to do for "mood stabilization" if this is not it even though I feel it is.
Posted by phidippus on April 12, 2014, at 15:33:19
In reply to Re: Risperdal Questions again » phidippus, posted by iowamoo on April 12, 2014, at 13:21:34
Mood stabilizers, such as Lithium, Carbamazapine and Lamictal, all work by slowing down the action of neurons in all areas of the brain, whereas atypical antipsychotics like Risperdal simply antagonize serotonin and dopamine receptors.
Have you tried a mood stabilizer along with the risperdal?
Eric
Posted by phidippus on April 12, 2014, at 15:35:03
In reply to Re: Risperdal Questions again » phidippus, posted by alfbarks007 on April 12, 2014, at 13:18:29
Mood stabilizers, such as Lithium, Carbamazapine and Lamictal, all work by slowing down the action of neurons in all areas of the brain, whereas atypical antipsychotics like Risperdal simply antagonize serotonin and dopamine receptors and sometimes other receptors.
Eric
Posted by iowamoo on April 12, 2014, at 16:19:21
In reply to Re: Risperdal Questions again » alfbarks007, posted by phidippus on April 12, 2014, at 15:35:03
I don't need these receptors "antagonized" they are antagonized enough lol
"antagonize serotonin and dopamine receptors and sometimes other receptors"
Can you give an example of each with say Lamictal vs Risperdal on how one would be different for lack of a better word on each med? If not that is ok. Say like having a bad day or dealing with say grandkids that are driving you crazy ? How would one act on Lamictal vs Risperdal since you claim they are sorta two different things which now makes me bummed cause now I don't know what to think.
Posted by iowamoo on April 12, 2014, at 16:20:36
In reply to Re: Risperdal Questions again » iowamoo, posted by phidippus on April 12, 2014, at 15:33:19
I see the psych Dr. on May 12th and will ask about this.
Posted by iowamoo on April 14, 2014, at 8:13:10
In reply to Re: Risperdal Questions again » iowamoo, posted by phidippus on April 12, 2014, at 15:33:19
Can someone explain this theory to me please?
Because I thought all this time that Risperdal was helping with my moods because I've certainly been in a GREAT mood, in CONTROL of my moods, I DONT spew off my mouth to others, I HAVENT thrown anything in days now though the urge has come close when I was super hungry but I still managed to control myself then I ate and I was fine again!
I just wish this head spinning feeling would go away, grrrrr, when I lean down it comes on and when I get back up it comes on and even sitting here typing this its happened once and I didn't even move, its kind of scary to get that but thankfully lasts only a few seconds then goes away with no rebound feeling (knocking on wood)
ok thanks!
Posted by phidippus on April 14, 2014, at 14:10:18
In reply to Re: Risperdal Questions again » phidippus, posted by iowamoo on April 12, 2014, at 16:19:21
> Can you give an example of each with say Lamictal vs Risperdal on how one would be different for lack of a better word on each med?
Lamotrigine is a member of the sodium channel blocking class of antiepileptic drugs. It is a triazine derivate that inhibits voltage-sensitive sodium channels, leading to stabilization of neuronal membranes. It also blocks L-, N-, and P-type calcium channels and has weak 5-hydroxytryptamine-3 (5-HT3) receptor inhibition. These actions are thought to inhibit release of glutamate at cortical projections in the ventral striatum limbic areas, and it has been pointed out this neuroprotective and antiglutamatergic effects as promising contributors to its mood stabilizing activity.
Risperidal has been classified as a "qualitatively atypical" antipsychotic agent with a relatively low incidence of extrapyramidal side effects (when given at low doses) that has more pronounced serotonin antagonism than dopamine antagonism. It has actions at several 5-HT (serotonin) receptor subtypes. These are 5-HT2C, linked to weight gain, 5-HT2A, linked to its antipsychotic action and relief of some of the extrapyramidal side effects experienced with the typical neuroleptics
Eric
Posted by iowamoo on April 14, 2014, at 14:27:27
In reply to Re: Risperdal Questions again » iowamoo, posted by phidippus on April 14, 2014, at 14:10:18
ok.
I have no clue what you just said but I will take your word for it. I did ask the psych nurse and she said they are both mood controllers but lamictal is antiepiletical. I guess either way I am doing MUCH better ON the Risperdal then OFF however I do see a neurologist next month and will ask her about all of this and thanks so much for that detailed reply!
Posted by iowamoo on April 14, 2014, at 17:56:22
In reply to Re: Risperdal Questions again » phidippus, posted by iowamoo on April 14, 2014, at 14:27:27
This psych nurse is crazy, hah pun intended.
I've asked her like five times back and forth in emails about dosing for lamictal for moods versus seizures and she has failed to answer that question and how often a day to take. I worry about this so called "rash" with lamictal as well.
any idea on how much is used for mood control versus seizure control. She did say Risperdal is also for moods so I don't know what to think now.
Posted by Christ_empowered on April 15, 2014, at 10:06:03
In reply to Re: Risperdal Questions again » iowamoo, posted by iowamoo on April 14, 2014, at 17:56:22
I know a few people who take generic lamictal once daily, at night.
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