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Posted by Bob12 on June 29, 2013, at 3:16:55
Hi,
What is better for sleep- Ativan or Valium?
Any help would be appreciated.
thanks
Bob12
Posted by polarbear206 on June 29, 2013, at 8:00:28
In reply to What is better for sleep Ativan or Valium?, posted by Bob12 on June 29, 2013, at 3:16:55
> Hi,
>
> What is better for sleep- Ativan or Valium?
>
> Any help would be appreciated.
> thanks
> Bob12
VALIUM IS LONGER ACTING DRUG VRS ATIVAN.
Posted by Phillipa on June 29, 2013, at 9:27:07
In reply to Re: What is better for sleep Ativan or Valium?, posted by polarbear206 on June 29, 2013, at 8:00:28
I've taken both. Both worked well. Take valium still now but still wake after 4 hours & take second half of dose then. Phillipa
Posted by sigismund on June 29, 2013, at 12:55:14
In reply to Re: What is better for sleep Ativan or Valium? » polarbear206, posted by Phillipa on June 29, 2013, at 9:27:07
Benzos do anything good for sleep architecture, but having said that I understand that one could have other things to worry about.
Zolpidem is better for me, but too short acting, and the same reservations apply to it perhaps.
Posted by sigismund on June 29, 2013, at 12:57:07
In reply to Re: What is better for sleep Ativan or Valium?, posted by sigismund on June 29, 2013, at 12:55:14
Benzos do not do
typo
Posted by Hugh on June 29, 2013, at 14:22:49
In reply to What is better for sleep Ativan or Valium?, posted by Bob12 on June 29, 2013, at 3:16:55
I've been on both. Valium has a much longer half-life than Ativan, so it's much better for a full night's sleep.
Posted by Bob12 on June 29, 2013, at 15:31:01
In reply to Re: What is better for sleep Ativan or Valium?, posted by Hugh on June 29, 2013, at 14:22:49
Thanks for the advice.
Bob12
Posted by SLS on June 29, 2013, at 15:46:07
In reply to What is better for sleep Ativan or Valium?, posted by Bob12 on June 29, 2013, at 3:16:55
I have only tried Ativan, which has worked well for me to combat MAOI insomnia. It lasts long enough (half-life = 12 hours) to make it through the night. I use 2.0 mg. Some people might need 4.0 mg.
Valium might not be as good for sleep as Ativan is. The benzodiazepines are not all equal with respect to hypnotic properties. I also think that it lasts too long into the next day (half-life = 48 hours).
Again - I have never tried Valium, so I cannot provide you with a real life comparison. For the shorter half-life alone, I would try Ativan first. If it doesn't work for you, then you have alternatives.
- Scott
Posted by herpills on June 30, 2013, at 12:32:16
In reply to Re: What is better for sleep Ativan or Valium? » polarbear206, posted by Phillipa on June 29, 2013, at 9:27:07
> I've taken both. Both worked well. Take valium still now but still wake after 4 hours & take second half of dose then. Phillipa
If this is the case then is it really helping you?
I hate waking up in the middle of the night! herpills
Posted by Phillipa on June 30, 2013, at 20:51:50
In reply to Re: What is better for sleep Ativan or Valium? » Phillipa, posted by herpills on June 30, 2013, at 12:32:16
Herpills seems I always have. So it's not new. I wake and go back to sleep. Phillipa
Posted by Trevpr on July 2, 2013, at 1:30:37
In reply to Re: What is better for sleep Ativan or Valium? » herpills, posted by Phillipa on June 30, 2013, at 20:51:50
GABAnergic medications such as benzos can contribute to treatment resistance and make depression worse (they are depressants after all and they upregulate NMDA receptors)
Sometimes the body deprives itself of sleep on purpose, unfortunately, the body sometimes does this, it seems, to provoke a seizure or deep sleep to get itself back into balance
Posted by SLS on July 2, 2013, at 3:29:52
In reply to Re: What is better for sleep Ativan or Valium?, posted by Trevpr on July 2, 2013, at 1:30:37
> GABAnergic medications such as benzos can contribute to treatment resistance and make depression worse (they are depressants after all and they upregulate NMDA receptors)
Where might I find some scientific literature on this?
Thanks.
- Scott
Posted by Phillipa on July 2, 2013, at 19:32:43
In reply to Re: What is better for sleep Ativan or Valium? » Trevpr, posted by SLS on July 2, 2013, at 3:29:52
I always thought that sleep was very important for both the mind & body? Phillipa
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