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Posted by OnlyGodCanJudgeMe on June 22, 2013, at 15:26:13
My brother told me since I have ADHD all stimulants will do is slow me down, not help with my energy that i lack. I suffer from chronic fatigue syndrome. Is he right with this assertion?
Posted by Hugh on June 22, 2013, at 16:50:24
In reply to Stimulants - ADHD - Question, posted by OnlyGodCanJudgeMe on June 22, 2013, at 15:26:13
> My brother told me since I have ADHD all stimulants will do is slow me down, not help with my energy that i lack. I suffer from chronic fatigue syndrome. Is he right with this assertion?
Maybe. Maybe not. Some people with CFS are very sensitive to stimulants. They'll feel wired on them, and then when the pills wear off, they'll crash and feel worse than they did before. Dr. Daniel Amen believes there are six types of ADD/ADHD. Some types can be helped by stimulants, and some types can be made much worse by stimulants. Here's a description of the six types:
http://add.about.com/od/adhdthebasics/a/Interview-With-Dr-Daniel-Amen.htm
Posted by OnlyGodCanJudgeMe on June 22, 2013, at 17:52:47
In reply to Re: Stimulants - ADHD - Question, posted by Hugh on June 22, 2013, at 16:50:24
Thank you for your response.
Are Stimulants and or Nuvigil/Provigil the only medications to tackle Chronic Fatigue?
Posted by Phillipa on June 22, 2013, at 19:45:16
In reply to Re: Stimulants - ADHD - Question, posted by Hugh on June 22, 2013, at 16:50:24
Hugh great info didn't know this Thanks!!!
Posted by Hugh on June 22, 2013, at 20:22:12
In reply to Re: Stimulants - ADHD - Question, posted by OnlyGodCanJudgeMe on June 22, 2013, at 17:52:47
Some immune suppressants are being tested for CFS, in the belief that, in some cases at least, it's an autoimmune disorder. Jacob Teitelbaum's writings on CFS are worth checking out.
Posted by rjlockhart37 on June 23, 2013, at 19:49:17
In reply to Re: Stimulants - ADHD - Question, posted by Hugh on June 22, 2013, at 16:50:24
amphetmaine and methyphenidate stimulants can cause a zombie effect on some people...it does slow the behavior down from being restless....it depends on the dose...higher doses are more like recreational uses....euphoria and mania energy....
nuvigil is not a psychostimulant....its more for fatique and shift fatigue....its like coffee, but without jitters....
another thing you can look into for fatigue is Vyvanse...its the same amphetamine in dexedrine but its release system is diffrent...i was on high doses of vyvies they made act crazy....and drained of energy and mood after it wore off...maybe for your case about 50mg-70mg would be fit......standard doses.
r
Posted by b2chica on June 24, 2013, at 14:12:52
In reply to Re: Stimulants - ADHD - Question, posted by Hugh on June 22, 2013, at 16:50:24
i'm right on board with Hugh.
but as an off handed mention, i think i heard once that having a cpap at night was supposed to help those with CFS?
not for certain, but worth a mention.best wishes.
-b2c.
Posted by OnlyGodCanJudgeMe on June 25, 2013, at 0:35:22
In reply to Re: Stimulants - ADHD - Question » Hugh, posted by b2chica on June 24, 2013, at 14:12:52
Is dexerdine better than adderall for energy/mood?
Posted by Willful on June 26, 2013, at 10:52:07
In reply to Re: Stimulants - ADHD - Question, posted by OnlyGodCanJudgeMe on June 25, 2013, at 0:35:22
I think it is. I think that part of the molecule called dexedrine has the energizing part in it-- and when you add the other enantiomers --or optical isomers-- which are less potent, you get adderal.
I'm sure adderall includes all the enantiomers, and is less strong-- although it's from experience that I've concluded that dexedrine is stronger.
Posted by rjlockhart37 on July 4, 2013, at 1:07:17
In reply to Re: Stimulants - ADHD - Question, posted by OnlyGodCanJudgeMe on June 25, 2013, at 0:35:22
dexedrine is dextroamphetamine....its one isomer of amphetamine
adderall is ampetamine....its mixed dextroamph/levoamphet which the levo is more psychiacally stimulating....but also it will give more sweating and adrenal release....it depends on the person, but adderall is a vary popilar med right now in the US....Dexedrine is the same thing but it doesnt have the levoamphetamine isomer attached...dex is less stimulating psychically, its more mentally activating....
r
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