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Posted by linkadge on November 13, 2012, at 14:49:52
Its a four days after I got the flu shot. Over the past 4 days I have lapsed into a suicidal mess (don't worry no risk). Sudden insomnia, crying and extreme emotional reactivity. Could this be related to the flu shot? I don't know what else has changed.
Linkadge
Posted by Christ_empowered on November 13, 2012, at 15:45:27
In reply to flu shot causing emotional symptoms?, posted by linkadge on November 13, 2012, at 14:49:52
Based on what the alternative health people say, I'd say "yes," but I'm no expert. You might want to check out mercola and some other peoples' sites and see what they have to say.
Posted by Phil on November 13, 2012, at 16:10:16
In reply to flu shot causing emotional symptoms?, posted by linkadge on November 13, 2012, at 14:49:52
I googled it and really didn't see much about flu shots bringing on an emotional reactions. I guess anything is possible.
Posted by SLS on November 13, 2012, at 16:26:37
In reply to flu shot causing emotional symptoms?, posted by linkadge on November 13, 2012, at 14:49:52
> Its a four days after I got the flu shot. Over the past 4 days I have lapsed into a suicidal mess (don't worry no risk). Sudden insomnia, crying and extreme emotional reactivity. Could this be related to the flu shot? I don't know what else has changed.
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> Linkadge
If the flu shot triggers the immune system (which it does), brain inflammation *might* be a consequence of the release of cytokines. This could produce psychiatric effects similar to that which is seen with the administration of interferon.
- Scott
Posted by rjlockhart37 on November 13, 2012, at 16:47:51
In reply to Re: flu shot causing emotional symptoms? » linkadge, posted by SLS on November 13, 2012, at 16:26:37
you could research it and find its side effects in mental conditions. Really that's the only thing, try to find out what chemical the vaccine was and then i don't know let me look at it, and research and come up with some conclusion of the cause of it.
This is really OFF example, but i read when people contract any unknown chemical, both vaccine and virus...it causes effects in the mental conditions and also some psychical conditions, racing heart, dizziness...so on
try to find out what it was....
r
Posted by gadchik on November 13, 2012, at 17:01:07
In reply to Re: flu shot causing emotional symptoms?, posted by rjlockhart37 on November 13, 2012, at 16:47:51
linkage, i got the flu shot right before my last doozy of a breakdown. I was already not sleeping,then got the shot,and became convinced that the shot was evil,so it sort of helped spin everything into the abyss. But I have gotten the shot before and didnt have any reaction.
Posted by Phillipa on November 13, 2012, at 17:58:35
In reply to Re: flu shot causing emotional symptoms?, posted by gadchik on November 13, 2012, at 17:01:07
Link was it a single dose vial? If not I think it contained a form of mercury as preservative. I got the flu shot for years. Now will never get it again. Phillipa
Posted by Phillipa on November 13, 2012, at 18:04:56
In reply to flu shot causing emotional symptoms?, posted by linkadge on November 13, 2012, at 14:49:52
From the CDC albeit the US. Phillipa
Thimerosal and 2012-2013 Seasonal Flu Vaccines
Questions & Answers
On This Page
What is thimerosal?
What are preservatives and why are they sometimes used in vaccines?
Do the 2012-2013 seasonal flu vaccines contain thimerosal?
Is thimerosal being used in other vaccines?
Is thimerosal in vaccines safe?
Is thimerosal in vaccines linked to autism?
What is thimerosal?Thimerosal is a mercury-based preservative that has been used for decades in the United States in multi-dose vials (vials containing more than one dose) of some vaccines to prevent the growth of germs, bacteria and fungi, that can contaminate them.
What are preservatives and why are they sometimes used in vaccines?Preservatives have been used in vaccines for more than 70 years and are added to vaccines to prevent the growth of bacteria or fungi that could possibly make the vaccine in multi-dose vials unsafe. This may occur when a syringe needle enters a vial as a vaccine is being prepared for administration. Contamination by germs in a vaccine could cause serious infections.
Do the 2012-2013 seasonal flu vaccines contain thimerosal?The Food and Drug Administration (FDA) has approved several formulations of the seasonal flu vaccine, including multi-dose vials and single-dose units. (See Table of Approved Influenza Vaccines for the U.S. 20122013 Season.) Since seasonal influenza vaccine is produced in large quantities for annual immunization campaigns, some of the vaccine is produced in multi-dose vials, and contains thimerosal to safeguard against possible contamination of the vial once it is opened.
The single-dose units are made without thimerosal as a preservative because they are intended to be opened and used only once. Additionally, the live-attenuated version of the vaccine (the nasal spray vaccine), is produced in single-dose units and does not contain thimerosal.
Is thimerosal being used in other vaccines?Since 2001, no new vaccine licensed by FDA for use in children has contained thimerosal as a preservative, and all vaccines routinely recommended by CDC for children younger than 6 years of age have been thimerosal-free, or contain only trace amounts of thimerosal, except for multi-dose formulations of influenza vaccine. The most recent and rigorous scientific research does not support the argument that thimerosal-containing vaccines are harmful. However, CDC and FDA continually evaluate new scientific information about the safety of vaccines.
Is thimerosal in vaccines safe?Yes. There is a large body of scientific evidence on the safety of thimerosal. Data from several studies show the low doses of thimerosal in vaccines do not cause harm, and are only associated with minor local injection site reactions like redness and swelling at the injection site.
Three U.S. health agencies (The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), the Food and Drug Administration (FDA), and the National Institutes of Health (NIH)) have reviewed the published research on thimerosal and found it to be a safe product to use in vaccines. Three independent organizations [The National Academy of Sciences Institute of Medicine, Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices (ACIP), and the American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP)] reviewed the published research and also found thimerosal to be a safe product to use in vaccines. The medical community supports the use of thimerosal in influenza vaccines to protect against potential bacterial contamination of multi-dose vials.
Is thimerosal in vaccines linked to autism?Numerous studies have found no association between thimerosal exposure and autism. CDC places a high priority on vaccine safety, surveillance, and research. CDC is aware that the presence of the preservative thimerosal in vaccines and allegations of a relationship to autism have raised public concerns. These concerns have made decisions surrounding vaccinations confusing and difficult for some people. Since 2001, no new vaccine licensed by FDA for use in children has contained thimerosal as a preservative and all vaccines routinely recommended by CDC for children younger than 6 years of age have been thimerosal-free, or contain only trace amounts of thimerosal, except for some formulations of influenza vaccine. Unfortunately, reductions in the numbers of children identified with autism have not been observed indicating that the cause of autism is not related to a single exposure such as thimerosal.
The federal government is committed to ensuring the safety of vaccines. This is achieved by FDA oversight of rigorous pre-licensure trials and post-licensure monitoring by CDC and FDA. This commitment stems from scientific, medical and personal dedication.
Posted by rjlockhart37 on November 13, 2012, at 19:13:24
In reply to Re: flu shot causing emotional symptoms? » linkadge, posted by Phillipa on November 13, 2012, at 18:04:56
phillipa....i got a shot when i was a kid...TB shot, some kinda of immune vaccine and later I found out it has links to autism, which I don't have it, but some doctors have said I had aspergers which is low low form of autism, high functioning, but not all the way with social skills.
Thanks for article....that's a lot of info...
rj
Posted by Phillipa on November 13, 2012, at 20:59:52
In reply to Re: flu shot causing emotional symptoms? » Phillipa, posted by rjlockhart37 on November 13, 2012, at 19:13:24
RJ seriously I think posted before since that dx you took it too seriously as you were doing soooo much better til then. And I really believe it's wrong. Phillipa
Posted by SLS on November 14, 2012, at 13:43:47
In reply to flu shot causing emotional symptoms?, posted by linkadge on November 13, 2012, at 14:49:52
> > Its a four days after I got the flu shot. Over the past 4 days I have lapsed into a suicidal mess (don't worry no risk). Sudden insomnia, crying and extreme emotional reactivity. Could this be related to the flu shot? I don't know what else has changed.
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> > Linkadge> If the flu shot triggers the immune system (which it does), brain inflammation *might* be a consequence of the release of cytokines. This could produce psychiatric effects similar to that which is seen with the administration of interferon.
>
>
> - Scott
So...What's happening?
- Scott
Posted by bleauberry on November 18, 2012, at 10:06:04
In reply to Re: flu shot causing emotional symptoms? » linkadge, posted by SLS on November 13, 2012, at 16:26:37
The way you described it, linkadge, sounded like a perfect description of my herxheimer reactions when I get too aggressive fighting late lyme. Since a flu shot is going to cause an immune system reaction, anything is possible. Exactly what is going on, I dunno. But to me it is somewhere within the chronic infection/inflammation arena and somehow the shot stirred up a hornet's nest.
For some reason, my bad reactions are primarily neurologic and psychiatric. Pretty much exactly as you described, and I can attest they are intense episodes. I think that indicates brain infection, but toxins from somewhere else in the body can do the same thing.
The only things that help me at that time are vicodin primarily, sometimes ritalin.
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