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Why I will never buy what Lou is selling

Posted by Phil on October 18, 2012, at 13:55:55

In reply to Lou's reply-Saving lives vs being civil zazenducke, posted by Lou Pilder on October 18, 2012, at 10:48:50

I don't like being ignored then go to the Admin and Lou posted that I'm anti-semitic when what I said was positive. Jews are the most charitable people in the world. My best friend is Jewish, I worked for a Jewish owned company for 7 years. There wouldn't be comedy without Jews. I've dated Jewish women.
He won't answer me here on this subject but takes something I didn't know he had a problem with and goes straight Admin.

from 2002~~~~~~~
In reply to not anti-religion..., posted by krazy kat on May 26, 2002, at 11:28:03

Friends,
I am not anti-medicine. I believe in medicine. I am not a member of the groups that deny their children to have medicine or blood transfusions to save their life. I believe that death is an enemy. And that we should fight the enemy.
((so ten years later I still believe in meds. Lou has evidently gone the other way and my agenda now should be his?))
________________________________________

Another post: I'm not affiliated with any religion
________________________________________

Another post, I'm Morman.
Bro you can't even spell Mormon.
_______________________________________

Google Nazi White horse and read the posts from 2002. Or don't, I don't care.
________________________________________

I think that Lou means well and I'll just leave it at that. I don't think he's a bad person. I just don't understand what he talks about.
I'm writing 3rd person because well just because. I'll chill I promise.
And I'll never post Lou's name again. I'm not trying to offend anyone including Lou and if I have I'm sorry.

 

Re: Lou's reply-Saving lives vs being civil

Posted by schleprock on October 18, 2012, at 18:31:44

In reply to Lou's reply-Saving lives vs being civil zazenducke, posted by Lou Pilder on October 18, 2012, at 10:48:50

I like Lou's Little Shoppe, it's like a cross between Cheers and Saw.

 

Re: Lou's reply-Saving lives vs being civil schleprock

Posted by sleepygirl2 on October 18, 2012, at 18:36:30

In reply to Re: Lou's reply-Saving lives vs being civil, posted by schleprock on October 18, 2012, at 18:31:44

That was funny :-)

 

Lou's reply-ptewsawn zazenducke

Posted by Lou Pilder on October 19, 2012, at 5:57:35

In reply to sorcery?, posted by zazenducke on October 18, 2012, at 6:24:54

t> . The Greek words for sorcery are: pharmakeia, pharmakeus, and pharmakos
>
> Is big pharm big sorcery? Is that what Bob won't let you say?
>
> It's ridiculous that you can't post anything you want when the Babblers are allowed to play doctor with each other and post really dubious and sometimes dangerous medical advice.

ZZDucke,
You wrote the above.
Now the prohibitions to me here by Mr Hsiung are numerous and do include the prohibiton to me that I am prohibited to post what the scriptures that the Jews use prescribe to those that use mind-altering drugs, those that provide them to others or manufacture them and such. But it is much more than that, for the scriptures tell of a great delusion that involves sorcery. If I was allowed to post here about that, I think that lives could be saved. Yet today, people can post statements that could arouse antisemitic feelings and give people (false) feelings of superiority that they state comes from their bible, (does it?) and when they are in a mind-altered state from drugs, they could think to target a Jew for murder.
Lou

 

Meds saved my life

Posted by AlexCanada on October 19, 2012, at 22:30:27

In reply to Lou's Little Shoppe-death-o-meter, posted by Lou Pilder on October 13, 2012, at 18:04:40


If it wasn't for meds I would not be here today. You are well known to have a reputation of believing that the human brain is the only organ in the body to not get sick. Which is absolutely irrational.

If you want a real statistic then here I am. I am here thanks to Meds! Get lost and stop trying to cause people harm.


> > > > > > > > Friends
> > > > > > > > I can compute the probability of you dying in relation to how many years you have left to live based on the drugs yoiu take and for how long.
> > > > > > > > If you would like me to compute your chances of living as to how many years until your death, post here the following:
> > > > > > > > A. The drugs you take now
> > > > > > > > B. The amount of time you have taken each drug.
> > > > > > > > I will use advanced statistics to compute your chances of living. The death-o-meter is a general prediction so your results may vary. This is not to tell you to stop your drugs, for people kill themselves when in withdrawal. If you want to withdrawal from these drugs, I could help you, but the prohibitions here from Mr Hsiung to me prevent me from posting what is needed by me that IMHHHO could save your life.
> > > > > > > > Lou
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Friends,
> > > > > > > Many of you already know that there are members here that are searching for a way out. A way out of addiction, depression, anxiety fear of death and such. It has been revealed to me how one could do that. It seems to me that members here would want to know that and go to Mr Hsiung to have him change his policy as to the foundation of Judaism as revealed to me so that I could post here what could lead you out of the darkness of depression and adddiction into a marvelous light.
> > > > > > > This thread was innitated by me for those that want to kno how many years they could go by taking their drugs before the drugs kill them as there are statistics that can reveal that that I can tell you.
> > > > > > > Now I have posted here that I do not want to have you stop your drugs because in wihdrawal there are people that kill themselves. And I could help people withdrawal without killing themselves if the posts that could arouse antisemitic feelings that are allowed to stand and I have outstanding requests about, were made not outstanding. Can't you see, that when you are told that others are superior to Jews and that Jewish children can not have forgiveness from and eternal life from the God that they give service and worship to because they do not (redacted by respondent)Jesus whch Mr Hsiung allows here to stand and even allows the poster to write that the bible says such? I think that the member here have a duty to redacted by respondent) and support life. That is why thois thread is about death. I want you to live, not die. And if you do not like my attempt to save lives here then you can (redacted by respondent).
> > > > > > > Lou
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Friends,
> > > > > > Many of you may not know that I have been here a long time, even from the start. I have seen many members die here from the drugs. But now there is not much time left for some. You see, I see a great statistical anomoly. This is because IMHO there is an indoctrination that could be goin' on here to lead people to believe particular (false) ideas about Jews, and me as a Jew. And because of that IMHHHO there are going to be many people die here soon from the drugs that they take. It stands out to me so visible that I want to warn you of the hard rain that is going to fall. But as in the days of Noah, we have somerhing differnt here. One can get on the ark and the door will not be shut. For I have a way for you to have a way out of the deluge of death that I see coming here.
> > > > > > Lou
> > > > >
> > > > > Friends,
> > > > > This thread is for people that want to know as to the drugs that they are taking, as to how long they could live until the drugs kill them. If I was to know the drugs taken and the amount of time I could compute statistically a probability for that. I also could use the archive for more definition. Now for those that are not interested, they could go elseware and even start a new thread with their ideas about drugs and death.
> > > > > So let it be for the interested people here. I come to offer help in relation to warning those that may be misled into thinking that these drugs could not kill them. They kill by many ways. One is by inducing a mind-altered state to compel them to want to kill themselves. This could happen in withdrawal and someone posted here that just switching drugs could cause one to kill themselves.
> > > > > Yet today, people here offer advise to others to switch drugs. They also offer advise to take a drug that could induce homocidal thinking and/or suicidal thinking.
> > > > > Here is one case of death here. The FDA now admits that a lot of these drugs can increase suicidal thinking. But it is much more than that. Look at the posts here of all those that want to kill themselves. Look also at the drugs that they list taking. And look at the drugs advised by others for them to take. Is it not plainly visible what is goin' on here? Is the road of druggin' leading to being free from depression and addiction, or are the drugs causing addicton and depression? And telling others to go down that road of drugs, I ask if they know what's waiting 'round the bend.
> > > > > I am prohibited here from posting what the scriptures that the Jews use prescribe to those that tell others to take mind-altering drugs. I am prohibited here from posting what IMHO could save your life. But I say to you, that 42,000 people or so died last year from these drugs and before that and after that, a progression that sums to a great multitude of deaths. I have seen the Great Multitude, for it has been revealed to me and I am prohibited from posting about that here by the prohibitions made to me by Mr. Hsiung. And going forward I think that the advertising and other aspects could make that number higher and going forward higher and higher. For you that are alive now, just remember those millions of deaths that could be counted of those that the drugs killed going forward and those that have already been killed going back 50 years.
> > > > > Hear is one post of those that killed themselves that were members here.
> > > > > Lou
> > > > > http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/20020308/msgs/3971.html
> > > >
> > > > Friends,
> > > > Here is a video that I would like for interested members here to view.
> > > > Lou
> > > > To see this video,
> > > > A. Pull up Google
> > > > B. Type in:
> > > > [youtube, Psychiatric drugs-search warnings,studies & side effects]
> > >
> > > Friends,
> > > One of the dta bases that I use to compute your chances are of your death from the drugs that you take come from that data base of the FDA. So if you wnt to contest their data, please contact them, not me. I do trust their data and so does the Mayo Clinic.
> > > Here is a link to show your chances of your death from taking xanax.
> > > Lou
> > > http://www.ehealthme.com/ds/xanax/death
> >
> > Friends,
> > There are many ways that I use to cpmpute probabilities in relation to the chances of death from mind-altering drugs. One site from many that I use is as follows and you could look through the sit and make your own determination as to its credibility :
> > http://www.ehealthme.com/aboutus
> > Then there are the posts by the members that have died here and as to how one could detrmoine if they killed hemselves. Some have emails from their survivors saying that they killed themselves. Then there are the posts by the members that could say that they had suicidal thinking after taking a drug. hen there is the report that he person died from "accidental overdose". The drug did kill thembut there is the question fo how could someone accidental overose when they were taking psychotropic drugs as prescribed at a particular dosage? ANd who is to determine if the death was accidental and how could that determination be made? Could not the person killed themselves deliberatly?
> > Then there is the deaths by heart attack or cardiac arrest.
> > Now in the cases where there was not heart conditions present before the drugs, then that could be evidence that the drug did the killing and there are forensic tests if the family or police and such so want. Then there is liver failure, and other organ failures that can be determined as to if the drug caused the death.
> > Now the statistics from the FDA say what is what. And ehealthme uses those statistics and others.
> > Here is another link;
> > Lou
> > http://www.ehealthme.com/ds/risperdal/death
> >
>
> Friends,
> Now here comes some ways that I compute the chances of death. for instance, in the Risperdal stat, which is over 4%, we have the following reasoning depicted by ehealthme. But it is much more than that. Another aspect that I use is if the member is advised to swith their drug . And then does the member have the way to by-pass the psychiatrist/doctor/prescriber and take the advised drug behind the prescriber's back. Now if the psychiatrist/prescriber is doing what is right in relation to giving drugs, then could not one telling the prescriber that they want another drug lead the prescriber to think that they are a bozo for not issueing the drug in the first place? Can you not see that there is a danger here by people advising others to take a drug that is not prescribed to the other? And could not death result if the person skips their doctor's visit to get a prescription for the drug? And could not a case be made to arrest the advisor if the other member dies from the drug advised to take? Maybe that person is allergic to the advised drug and dies from one pill.
> Here is another link
> Lou
> http://www.ehealthme.com/ds/paxil/death

 

Lou's response- AlexCanada

Posted by Lou Pilder on October 20, 2012, at 13:16:38

In reply to Meds saved my life, posted by AlexCanada on October 19, 2012, at 22:30:27

>
> If it wasn't for meds I would not be here today. You are well known to have a reputation of believing that the human brain is the only organ in the body to not get sick. Which is absolutely irrational.
>
> If you want a real statistic then here I am. I am here thanks to Meds! Get lost and stop trying to cause people harm.
>
>
>
>
> > > > > > > > > Friends
> > > > > > > > > I can compute the probability of you dying in relation to how many years you have left to live based on the drugs yoiu take and for how long.
> > > > > > > > > If you would like me to compute your chances of living as to how many years until your death, post here the following:
> > > > > > > > > A. The drugs you take now
> > > > > > > > > B. The amount of time you have taken each drug.
> > > > > > > > > I will use advanced statistics to compute your chances of living. The death-o-meter is a general prediction so your results may vary. This is not to tell you to stop your drugs, for people kill themselves when in withdrawal. If you want to withdrawal from these drugs, I could help you, but the prohibitions here from Mr Hsiung to me prevent me from posting what is needed by me that IMHHHO could save your life.
> > > > > > > > > Lou
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Friends,
> > > > > > > > Many of you already know that there are members here that are searching for a way out. A way out of addiction, depression, anxiety fear of death and such. It has been revealed to me how one could do that. It seems to me that members here would want to know that and go to Mr Hsiung to have him change his policy as to the foundation of Judaism as revealed to me so that I could post here what could lead you out of the darkness of depression and adddiction into a marvelous light.
> > > > > > > > This thread was innitated by me for those that want to kno how many years they could go by taking their drugs before the drugs kill them as there are statistics that can reveal that that I can tell you.
> > > > > > > > Now I have posted here that I do not want to have you stop your drugs because in wihdrawal there are people that kill themselves. And I could help people withdrawal without killing themselves if the posts that could arouse antisemitic feelings that are allowed to stand and I have outstanding requests about, were made not outstanding. Can't you see, that when you are told that others are superior to Jews and that Jewish children can not have forgiveness from and eternal life from the God that they give service and worship to because they do not (redacted by respondent)Jesus whch Mr Hsiung allows here to stand and even allows the poster to write that the bible says such? I think that the member here have a duty to redacted by respondent) and support life. That is why thois thread is about death. I want you to live, not die. And if you do not like my attempt to save lives here then you can (redacted by respondent).
> > > > > > > > Lou
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Friends,
> > > > > > > Many of you may not know that I have been here a long time, even from the start. I have seen many members die here from the drugs. But now there is not much time left for some. You see, I see a great statistical anomoly. This is because IMHO there is an indoctrination that could be goin' on here to lead people to believe particular (false) ideas about Jews, and me as a Jew. And because of that IMHHHO there are going to be many people die here soon from the drugs that they take. It stands out to me so visible that I want to warn you of the hard rain that is going to fall. But as in the days of Noah, we have somerhing differnt here. One can get on the ark and the door will not be shut. For I have a way for you to have a way out of the deluge of death that I see coming here.
> > > > > > > Lou
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Friends,
> > > > > > This thread is for people that want to know as to the drugs that they are taking, as to how long they could live until the drugs kill them. If I was to know the drugs taken and the amount of time I could compute statistically a probability for that. I also could use the archive for more definition. Now for those that are not interested, they could go elseware and even start a new thread with their ideas about drugs and death.
> > > > > > So let it be for the interested people here. I come to offer help in relation to warning those that may be misled into thinking that these drugs could not kill them. They kill by many ways. One is by inducing a mind-altered state to compel them to want to kill themselves. This could happen in withdrawal and someone posted here that just switching drugs could cause one to kill themselves.
> > > > > > Yet today, people here offer advise to others to switch drugs. They also offer advise to take a drug that could induce homocidal thinking and/or suicidal thinking.
> > > > > > Here is one case of death here. The FDA now admits that a lot of these drugs can increase suicidal thinking. But it is much more than that. Look at the posts here of all those that want to kill themselves. Look also at the drugs that they list taking. And look at the drugs advised by others for them to take. Is it not plainly visible what is goin' on here? Is the road of druggin' leading to being free from depression and addiction, or are the drugs causing addicton and depression? And telling others to go down that road of drugs, I ask if they know what's waiting 'round the bend.
> > > > > > I am prohibited here from posting what the scriptures that the Jews use prescribe to those that tell others to take mind-altering drugs. I am prohibited here from posting what IMHO could save your life. But I say to you, that 42,000 people or so died last year from these drugs and before that and after that, a progression that sums to a great multitude of deaths. I have seen the Great Multitude, for it has been revealed to me and I am prohibited from posting about that here by the prohibitions made to me by Mr. Hsiung. And going forward I think that the advertising and other aspects could make that number higher and going forward higher and higher. For you that are alive now, just remember those millions of deaths that could be counted of those that the drugs killed going forward and those that have already been killed going back 50 years.
> > > > > > Hear is one post of those that killed themselves that were members here.
> > > > > > Lou
> > > > > > http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/20020308/msgs/3971.html
> > > > >
> > > > > Friends,
> > > > > Here is a video that I would like for interested members here to view.
> > > > > Lou
> > > > > To see this video,
> > > > > A. Pull up Google
> > > > > B. Type in:
> > > > > [youtube, Psychiatric drugs-search warnings,studies & side effects]
> > > >
> > > > Friends,
> > > > One of the dta bases that I use to compute your chances are of your death from the drugs that you take come from that data base of the FDA. So if you wnt to contest their data, please contact them, not me. I do trust their data and so does the Mayo Clinic.
> > > > Here is a link to show your chances of your death from taking xanax.
> > > > Lou
> > > > http://www.ehealthme.com/ds/xanax/death
> > >
> > > Friends,
> > > There are many ways that I use to cpmpute probabilities in relation to the chances of death from mind-altering drugs. One site from many that I use is as follows and you could look through the sit and make your own determination as to its credibility :
> > > http://www.ehealthme.com/aboutus
> > > Then there are the posts by the members that have died here and as to how one could detrmoine if they killed hemselves. Some have emails from their survivors saying that they killed themselves. Then there are the posts by the members that could say that they had suicidal thinking after taking a drug. hen there is the report that he person died from "accidental overdose". The drug did kill thembut there is the question fo how could someone accidental overose when they were taking psychotropic drugs as prescribed at a particular dosage? ANd who is to determine if the death was accidental and how could that determination be made? Could not the person killed themselves deliberatly?
> > > Then there is the deaths by heart attack or cardiac arrest.
> > > Now in the cases where there was not heart conditions present before the drugs, then that could be evidence that the drug did the killing and there are forensic tests if the family or police and such so want. Then there is liver failure, and other organ failures that can be determined as to if the drug caused the death.
> > > Now the statistics from the FDA say what is what. And ehealthme uses those statistics and others.
> > > Here is another link;
> > > Lou
> > > http://www.ehealthme.com/ds/risperdal/death
> > >
> >
> > Friends,
> > Now here comes some ways that I compute the chances of death. for instance, in the Risperdal stat, which is over 4%, we have the following reasoning depicted by ehealthme. But it is much more than that. Another aspect that I use is if the member is advised to swith their drug . And then does the member have the way to by-pass the psychiatrist/doctor/prescriber and take the advised drug behind the prescriber's back. Now if the psychiatrist/prescriber is doing what is right in relation to giving drugs, then could not one telling the prescriber that they want another drug lead the prescriber to think that they are a bozo for not issueing the drug in the first place? Can you not see that there is a danger here by people advising others to take a drug that is not prescribed to the other? And could not death result if the person skips their doctor's visit to get a prescription for the drug? And could not a case be made to arrest the advisor if the other member dies from the drug advised to take? Maybe that person is allergic to the advised drug and dies from one pill.
> > Here is another link
> > Lou
> > http://www.ehealthme.com/ds/paxil/death
>
> Friends,
What is written by the poster here could lead you to think that mind-altering chemicals called psychiatric medicines, could save your life or your child's life and such and you will use that line of thinking to be indoctrinated to drug your child or yourself or such.
But I say to you, that each month around 3,600 people die from psycihiatric drugs in one way or another. And that there is evidence that psychiatric drugs {increase} suicidal thoughts and violence. And could someone really claim that because they are not dead that taking mind-altering drugs that could give horrific life-ruining conditions or addiction or death be saving their life?
Friends, I know what causes people to think about killing themselves. And there are prohibitions to me here by Mr Hsiung that prevent me from posting that here. Now the poster here can post that claim that psychotropic drugs have kept him/her alive. Really? Could the fact that one is alive prove that the drugs that they take keep them from killig themselves, if that is what is meant, when thousands of people each year kill themselves and others while on these drugs? Where is the rationallity seen in that type of claim?
I would like for parents thinking to drug their child or not to view the following video. I would like people trying to make a more informed, educated decision as to start taking psychiatric drugs to view this video. I would like psychiarists that are questoning the effects of the drugs that they prescribe to view this video. I would like for those that have had loved ones die while they were taking thses drug to view this video. I would like for those that have been taking thses drugs that have had some of their humanity taken away by these drugs to view this video. I would like for those that think that giving someone a drug that could kill them or addict them or induce a life-ruining condition in them to constitute a crims, a crime against humanity, to view this video.
And after that if you think that taking a psychotropic drug will prevent you from killing yourself, or cure some type of illness that woud result in death by some other means other than suicide, I invite you to post here with your rationale, if there is any, and then I will post more to you and give other readers their right to know the facts, even with the prohibitions to me here by Mr Hsiung so that you could live and not be a victim of psychiatric drugging that could lead to addiction, life-ruining conditions or death.
To see this video:
A. Pull up Google
B. Type in:
[youtube, Psychiatric Drugs-Increased Suicides & Violent Acts]
posted on Dec 30 2011....11 min long

 

Lou's request- Phil

Posted by Lou Pilder on October 21, 2012, at 8:21:07

In reply to Why I will never buy what Lou is selling, posted by Phil on October 18, 2012, at 13:55:55

> I don't like being ignored then go to the Admin and Lou posted that I'm anti-semitic when what I said was positive. Jews are the most charitable people in the world. My best friend is Jewish, I worked for a Jewish owned company for 7 years. There wouldn't be comedy without Jews. I've dated Jewish women.
> He won't answer me here on this subject but takes something I didn't know he had a problem with and goes straight Admin.
>
> from 2002~~~~~~~
> In reply to not anti-religion..., posted by krazy kat on May 26, 2002, at 11:28:03
>
> Friends,
> I am not anti-medicine. I believe in medicine. I am not a member of the groups that deny their children to have medicine or blood transfusions to save their life. I believe that death is an enemy. And that we should fight the enemy.
> ((so ten years later I still believe in meds. Lou has evidently gone the other way and my agenda now should be his?))
> ________________________________________
>
> Another post: I'm not affiliated with any religion
> ________________________________________
>
> Another post, I'm Morman.
> Bro you can't even spell Mormon.
> _______________________________________
>
> Google Nazi White horse and read the posts from 2002. Or don't, I don't care.
> ________________________________________
>
> I think that Lou means well and I'll just leave it at that. I don't think he's a bad person. I just don't understand what he talks about.
> I'm writing 3rd person because well just because. I'll chill I promise.
> And I'll never post Lou's name again. I'm not trying to offend anyone including Lou and if I have I'm sorry.

Phil,
I am unsure as to what you are wanting to mean here. If you could post answers to the following, then I could have the opportunity to respond acordingly.
A. Could you post the URL of where you say that I posted that you were antisemitic?
B. If not, and there is not a post like that, what is your intention to lead others to believe about me if there is no such post?
C. In that you posted about a previous post by me concerning that I believe in medicines, are you aware that I have a different conception of what a medicine is than that of psychiatry that promotes mind-altering chemicals as medicines?
D. In you post here about Mormons, could you post the URL if there is one that someone stated that they are a Mormon? I do not know if I am your subject person or not and I am not a member of the LDS. If there is not one, what is what you posted wanting to show?
E. In that you posted that you would not post my name again, what has changed your mind since you are talking about me now on the administration board here?
F. Are you aware that just last year alone, 42,000 people died by one means or another from psychotropic drugs and that many have died here from those drugs? If so, or if not so, is there an objection by you here to me posting facts about death and drugs that I think if there were not the prohibitions made to me here by Mr Hsiung that lives could be saved by what I could post if there was not the repression to my speech imposed upon me here by Mr Hsiung?
Lou

 

Re: Lou's reply-Saving lives vs being civil sleepygirl2

Posted by brynb on October 21, 2012, at 9:56:37

In reply to Re: Lou's reply-Saving lives vs being civil schleprock, posted by sleepygirl2 on October 18, 2012, at 18:36:30

> That was funny :-)
>

it was...thank goodness for comic relief!

 

Lou's reply-to schleprock, bryanb and sleepygirl

Posted by Lou Pilder on October 21, 2012, at 11:19:19

In reply to Re: Lou's reply-Saving lives vs being civil sleepygirl2, posted by brynb on October 21, 2012, at 9:56:37

> > That was funny :-)
> >
>
> it was...thank goodness for comic relief!

Hi schleprock, bryanb and sleepygirl.
The door is always open to my Little Shoppe. One can come in and relax and kibbutz about things to come. I am glad that one likes to come here. For here you could learn from me and others. You could learn what the facts say about death from psychotropic drugs. And with these facts, you could dispell any statements that could be proven to be lies posted here about me. Lies that could keep you from knowing truth. And if you know the truth, you could be free from the bondage of the lies.
I try to make the Little Shoppe a clean, well-lighted place. Come in and see the light.
Lou

 

You calling people on this board liars? Lou Pilder

Posted by Dinah on October 21, 2012, at 11:57:14

In reply to Lou's reply-to schleprock, bryanb and sleepygirl, posted by Lou Pilder on October 21, 2012, at 11:19:19

How dreadfully uncivil.

Is this an invitation for others to call you names?

 

From now on Lou Pilder

Posted by Dinah on October 21, 2012, at 11:59:20

In reply to Lou's reply-to schleprock, bryanb and sleepygirl, posted by Lou Pilder on October 21, 2012, at 11:19:19

I'm going to call you on every incivility you utter about others.

This double standard has to stop.

 

Re: Lou's reply-to schleprock, bryanb and sleepygirl Lou Pilder

Posted by Dinah on October 21, 2012, at 12:04:40

In reply to Lou's reply-to schleprock, bryanb and sleepygirl, posted by Lou Pilder on October 21, 2012, at 11:19:19

You constantly indirectly refer to people on this board as antisemites (even if they happen to be Jewish), you accuse them of being one step away of committing antisemitic violence if they take a prozac, you call them pill pushers, you accuse them of killing other people by suggesting medications, and now you're calling them liars. Indirect it may be, but it's still uncivil.

You think we can't see through your multiple choice questions to the accusations contained within?

And we're supposed to cut you slack because of who you are? I'm sick of it Lou. Sick of it. Every indirect accusation that comes out of your mouth will now be challenged by me.

 

Lou's reply-tldhmehybowtiht schleprock

Posted by Lou Pilder on October 21, 2012, at 13:12:49

In reply to Re: Lou's reply-Saving lives vs being civil, posted by schleprock on October 18, 2012, at 18:31:44

> I like Lou's Little Shoppe, it's like a cross between Cheers and Saw.

schleprock,
You wrote,[...I like Lou's Little Shoppe...].
The shop is an Equal Opportunity Shoppe. Start spreading the news. If you know someone that could come in and share their knowledge, please tell them about it.
Lou

 

Lou's reply-

Posted by Lou Pilder on October 21, 2012, at 14:57:10

In reply to Re: Lou's Little Shoppe-death-o-meter Lou Pilder, posted by zazenducke on October 18, 2012, at 3:41:49

> Hi Lou
>
>
> How are you? I feel awful to tell the truth. Maybe it's the change of seasons. Is autumn beautiful where you are? Sorry if the link to Ginsberg I put in was offensive to you if it was. It did seem like a prayer. Babble is the meanest board I've ever seen. I hope you have plenty of people to love you in real life. Do you think God loves people any less because they want to drug themselves? Do you think everywhere is holy because God is everywhere? Do you believe the poem that says there are no unholy places only desecrated places?
> Why does everything hurt so much? Why do people have to die? Have you ever been to Israel? I'd like to go there. So those are my 3:40 AM blues
> |
>
> Isaiah 53-55
>
>
> 53 Who hath believed our report? And to whom is the arm of the Lord revealed?
>
> 2 For He shall grow up before Him as a tender plant, and as a root out of a dry ground. He hath no form nor comeliness, and when we shall see Him, there is no beauty that we should desire Him.
>
> 3 He is despised and rejected of men, a Man of sorrows, and acquainted with grief. And we hid as it were our faces from Him; He was despised, and we esteemed Him not.
>
> 4 Surely He hath borne our griefs and carried our sorrows; yet we did esteem Him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted.
>
> 5 But He was wounded for our transgressions; He was bruised for our iniquities. The chastisement of our peace was upon Him, and with His stripes we are healed.
>
> 6 All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the Lord hath laid on Him the iniquity of us all.
>
> 7 He was oppressed, and He was afflicted, yet He opened not his mouth; He is brought as a lamb to the slaughter; and as a sheep before her shearers is dumb, so He openeth not His mouth.
>
> 8 He was taken from prison and from judgment; and who shall declare His generation? For He was cut off out of the land of the living; for the transgression of My people was He stricken.
>
> 9 And He made His grave with the wicked, and with the rich in His death, because He had done no violence, neither was any deceit in His mouth.
>
> 10 Yet it pleased the Lord to bruise Him; He hath put Him to grief. When thou shalt make His soul an offering for sin, He shall see His seed, He shall prolong His days, and the pleasure of the Lord shall prosper in His hand.
>
> 11 He shall see of the travail of His soul, and shall be satisfied. By His knowledge shall My righteous Servant justify many, for He shall bear their iniquities.
>
> 12 Therefore will I divide Him a portion with the great, and He shall divide the spoil with the strong, because He hath poured out His soul unto death. And He was numbered with the transgressors; and He bore the sin of many, and made intercession for the transgressors.
>
> 54 Sing, O barren, thou that didst not bear! Break forth into singing and cry aloud, thou that didst not travail with child! For more are the children of the desolate than the children of the married wife, saith the Lord.
>
> 2 Enlarge the place of thy tent, and let them stretch forth the curtains of thine habitations; spare not, lengthen thy cords, and strengthen thy stakes.
>
> 3 For thou shalt break forth on the right hand and on the left, and thy seed shall inherit the Gentiles, and make the desolate cities to be inhabited.
>
> 4 Fear not; for thou shalt not be ashamed; neither be thou confounded, for thou shalt not be put to shame: for thou shalt forget the shame of thy youth, and shalt not remember the reproach of thy widowhood any more.
>
> 5 For thy Maker is thine husband the Lord of hosts is His name and thy Redeemer, the Holy One of Israel; the God of the whole earth shall He be called.
>
> 6 For the Lord hath called thee as a woman forsaken and grieved in spirit, and a wife of youth, when thou wast refused, saith thy God.
>
> 7 For a small moment have I forsaken thee, but with great mercies will I gather thee.
>
> 8 In a little wrath I hid My face from thee for a moment, but with everlasting kindness will I have mercy on thee, saith the Lord thy Redeemer.
>
> 9 For this is as the waters of Noah unto Me; for as I have sworn that the waters of Noah should no more go over the earth, so have I sworn that I would not be wroth with thee nor rebuke thee.
>
> 10 For the mountains shall depart and the hills be removed, but My kindness shall not depart from thee, neither shall the covenant of My peace be removed, saith the Lord that hath mercy on thee.
>
> 11 O thou afflicted, tossed with tempest and not comforted, behold, I will lay thy stones with fair colors and lay thy foundations with sapphires.
>
> 12 And I will make thy windows of agates and thy gates of rubies, and all thy borders of pleasant stones.
>
> 13 And all thy children shall be taught of the Lord, and great shall be the peace of thy children.
>
> 14 In righteousness shalt thou be established; thou shalt be far from oppression, for thou shalt not fear; and from terror, for it shall not come near thee.
>
> 15 Behold, they shall surely gather together, but not by Me; whosoever shall gather together against thee shall fall for thy sake.
>
> 16 Behold, I have created the smith that bloweth the coals in the fire, and that bringeth forth an instrument for his work; and I have created the waster to destroy.
>
> 17 No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the Lord, and their righteousness is of Me, saith the Lord.
>
> 55 Ho, every one that thirsteth, come ye to the waters; and he that hath no money, come ye, buy, and eat; yea, come, buy wine and milk without money and without price.
>
> 2 Why do ye spend money for that which is not bread, and your labor for that which satisfieth not? Hearken diligently unto Me, and eat ye that which is good, and let your soul delight itself in fatness.
>
> 3 Incline your ear, and come unto Me; hear, and your soul shall live; and I will make an everlasting covenant with you, even the sure mercies of David.
>
> 4 Behold, I have given him for a witness to the people, a leader and commander to the people.
>
> 5 Behold, thou shalt call a nation that thou knowest not, and nations that knew not thee shall run unto thee because of the Lord thy God, and for the Holy One of Israel; for He hath glorified thee.
>
> 6 Seek ye the Lord while He may be found, call ye upon Him while He is near.
>
> 7 Let the wicked forsake his way and the unrighteous man his thoughts; and let him return unto the Lord, and He will have mercy upon him, and to our God, for He will abundantly pardon.
>
> 8 For My thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways My ways, saith the Lord.
>
> 9 For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are My ways higher than your ways and My thoughts than your thoughts.
>
> 10 For as the rain cometh down and the snow from heaven, and returneth not thither, but watereth the earth, and maketh it bring forth and bud, that it may give seed to the sower and bread to the eater,
>
> 11 so shall My word be that goeth forth out of My mouth: It shall not return unto Me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it.
>
> 12 For ye shall go out with joy, and be led forth with peace; the mountains and the hills shall break forth before you into singing, and all the trees of the field shall clap their hands.
>
> 13 Instead of the thorn shall come up the fir tree, and instead of the brier shall come up the myrtle tree; and it shall be to the Lord for a name, for an everlasting sign that shall not be cut off.
>

ZZDucke,
Here is a link that could also be helpful in what you posted.
Lou
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/2010228/msgs/1026270.html

 

Lou's reply- zazenducke

Posted by Lou Pilder on October 21, 2012, at 15:03:51

In reply to Re: Lou's Little Shoppe-death-o-meter Lou Pilder, posted by zazenducke on October 18, 2012, at 3:41:49

> Hi Lou
>
>
> How are you? I feel awful to tell the truth. Maybe it's the change of seasons. Is autumn beautiful where you are? Sorry if the link to Ginsberg I put in was offensive to you if it was. It did seem like a prayer. Babble is the meanest board I've ever seen. I hope you have plenty of people to love you in real life. Do you think God loves people any less because they want to drug themselves? Do you think everywhere is holy because God is everywhere? Do you believe the poem that says there are no unholy places only desecrated places?
> Why does everything hurt so much? Why do people have to die? Have you ever been to Israel? I'd like to go there. So those are my 3:40 AM blues
> |
>
> Isaiah 53-55
>
>
> 53 Who hath believed our report? And to whom is the arm of the Lord revealed?
>
> 2 For He shall grow up before Him as a tender plant, and as a root out of a dry ground. He hath no form nor comeliness, and when we shall see Him, there is no beauty that we should desire Him.
>
> 3 He is despised and rejected of men, a Man of sorrows, and acquainted with grief. And we hid as it were our faces from Him; He was despised, and we esteemed Him not.
>
> 4 Surely He hath borne our griefs and carried our sorrows; yet we did esteem Him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted.
>
> 5 But He was wounded for our transgressions; He was bruised for our iniquities. The chastisement of our peace was upon Him, and with His stripes we are healed.
>
> 6 All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the Lord hath laid on Him the iniquity of us all.
>
> 7 He was oppressed, and He was afflicted, yet He opened not his mouth; He is brought as a lamb to the slaughter; and as a sheep before her shearers is dumb, so He openeth not His mouth.
>
> 8 He was taken from prison and from judgment; and who shall declare His generation? For He was cut off out of the land of the living; for the transgression of My people was He stricken.
>
> 9 And He made His grave with the wicked, and with the rich in His death, because He had done no violence, neither was any deceit in His mouth.
>
> 10 Yet it pleased the Lord to bruise Him; He hath put Him to grief. When thou shalt make His soul an offering for sin, He shall see His seed, He shall prolong His days, and the pleasure of the Lord shall prosper in His hand.
>
> 11 He shall see of the travail of His soul, and shall be satisfied. By His knowledge shall My righteous Servant justify many, for He shall bear their iniquities.
>
> 12 Therefore will I divide Him a portion with the great, and He shall divide the spoil with the strong, because He hath poured out His soul unto death. And He was numbered with the transgressors; and He bore the sin of many, and made intercession for the transgressors.
>
> 54 Sing, O barren, thou that didst not bear! Break forth into singing and cry aloud, thou that didst not travail with child! For more are the children of the desolate than the children of the married wife, saith the Lord.
>
> 2 Enlarge the place of thy tent, and let them stretch forth the curtains of thine habitations; spare not, lengthen thy cords, and strengthen thy stakes.
>
> 3 For thou shalt break forth on the right hand and on the left, and thy seed shall inherit the Gentiles, and make the desolate cities to be inhabited.
>
> 4 Fear not; for thou shalt not be ashamed; neither be thou confounded, for thou shalt not be put to shame: for thou shalt forget the shame of thy youth, and shalt not remember the reproach of thy widowhood any more.
>
> 5 For thy Maker is thine husband the Lord of hosts is His name and thy Redeemer, the Holy One of Israel; the God of the whole earth shall He be called.
>
> 6 For the Lord hath called thee as a woman forsaken and grieved in spirit, and a wife of youth, when thou wast refused, saith thy God.
>
> 7 For a small moment have I forsaken thee, but with great mercies will I gather thee.
>
> 8 In a little wrath I hid My face from thee for a moment, but with everlasting kindness will I have mercy on thee, saith the Lord thy Redeemer.
>
> 9 For this is as the waters of Noah unto Me; for as I have sworn that the waters of Noah should no more go over the earth, so have I sworn that I would not be wroth with thee nor rebuke thee.
>
> 10 For the mountains shall depart and the hills be removed, but My kindness shall not depart from thee, neither shall the covenant of My peace be removed, saith the Lord that hath mercy on thee.
>
> 11 O thou afflicted, tossed with tempest and not comforted, behold, I will lay thy stones with fair colors and lay thy foundations with sapphires.
>
> 12 And I will make thy windows of agates and thy gates of rubies, and all thy borders of pleasant stones.
>
> 13 And all thy children shall be taught of the Lord, and great shall be the peace of thy children.
>
> 14 In righteousness shalt thou be established; thou shalt be far from oppression, for thou shalt not fear; and from terror, for it shall not come near thee.
>
> 15 Behold, they shall surely gather together, but not by Me; whosoever shall gather together against thee shall fall for thy sake.
>
> 16 Behold, I have created the smith that bloweth the coals in the fire, and that bringeth forth an instrument for his work; and I have created the waster to destroy.
>
> 17 No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the Lord, and their righteousness is of Me, saith the Lord.
>
> 55 Ho, every one that thirsteth, come ye to the waters; and he that hath no money, come ye, buy, and eat; yea, come, buy wine and milk without money and without price.
>
> 2 Why do ye spend money for that which is not bread, and your labor for that which satisfieth not? Hearken diligently unto Me, and eat ye that which is good, and let your soul delight itself in fatness.
>
> 3 Incline your ear, and come unto Me; hear, and your soul shall live; and I will make an everlasting covenant with you, even the sure mercies of David.
>
> 4 Behold, I have given him for a witness to the people, a leader and commander to the people.
>
> 5 Behold, thou shalt call a nation that thou knowest not, and nations that knew not thee shall run unto thee because of the Lord thy God, and for the Holy One of Israel; for He hath glorified thee.
>
> 6 Seek ye the Lord while He may be found, call ye upon Him while He is near.
>
> 7 Let the wicked forsake his way and the unrighteous man his thoughts; and let him return unto the Lord, and He will have mercy upon him, and to our God, for He will abundantly pardon.
>
> 8 For My thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways My ways, saith the Lord.
>
> 9 For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are My ways higher than your ways and My thoughts than your thoughts.
>
> 10 For as the rain cometh down and the snow from heaven, and returneth not thither, but watereth the earth, and maketh it bring forth and bud, that it may give seed to the sower and bread to the eater,
>
> 11 so shall My word be that goeth forth out of My mouth: It shall not return unto Me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it.
>
> 12 For ye shall go out with joy, and be led forth with peace; the mountains and the hills shall break forth before you into singing, and all the trees of the field shall clap their hands.
>
> 13 Instead of the thorn shall come up the fir tree, and instead of the brier shall come up the myrtle tree; and it shall be to the Lord for a name, for an everlasting sign that shall not be cut off.
>

ZZDucke,
Here is a link that I would like for you to explore.
Lou
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20120228/msgs/1026270.html

 

Re: From now on Dinah

Posted by SLS on October 22, 2012, at 5:51:41

In reply to From now on Lou Pilder, posted by Dinah on October 21, 2012, at 11:59:20

> I'm going to call you on every incivility you utter about others.
>
> This double standard has to stop.


That's quite a commitment, Dinah. I hope that you are not disappointed in your efforts. It is a difficult line to walk in order to comment on the posting behaviors of others while remaining civil. I support your objective.

My concern has been that the posts of Lou Pilder are dissuading people from using Psycho-Babble as a resource for support and education. While I believe that Lou Pilder is motivated by a desire to help people, I do not believe that his writings should remain unchallenged.


- Scott

 

Re: From now on SLS

Posted by Dinah on October 22, 2012, at 7:49:32

In reply to Re: From now on Dinah, posted by SLS on October 22, 2012, at 5:51:41

Well, you have a point. I probably shouldn't ask so much of myself. I was angry and feeling helpless and impotent.

I agree about the risk, but I can't see that much can be done about it. Even if the posts are challenged. The only possibility I can see is that people have the right to point out that certain types of replies would not be helpful to them and to request that they not be made. The problem is that with Bob no longer moderating the site, what's to keep him from continuing to post them anyway? And it's not like we can warn everyone of this technique. You'd have to put instructions on the posting box.

So I'm not sure anything can help. Not challenging, not warning people to state up front that they don't want that kind of response. Nothing.

The community has no power. We can protest something till we're blue in the face, but the only protection we have is the hope that others will be respectful enough to moderate their behavior. A forlorn hope indeed, when it's in the nature of human behavior to believe that the needs of the community are best met if they post just as they like.

 

Re: From now on

Posted by papillon2 on October 22, 2012, at 8:11:46

In reply to Re: From now on SLS, posted by Dinah on October 22, 2012, at 7:49:32

I must admit that I have refrained from posting due to not wanting to receive the sort of response that we are talking about here. It would be too mentally challenging for me to (a) read and (b) respond to such a reply, and I would feel awful for ignoring it outright. And let's be honest, I'd continue to be spammed regardless of what I might say and request.

I guess this is more my problem than anyone else's, but depression is exhausting enough as it is, you know? It's noisy enough in my head without having someone adding to it, giving ammunition to unhealthy and unhelpful thoughts. So I don't say anything, and I guess it is a shame because I don't have anyone else to talk to about these things.

I guess I should press send now, though I bet I'm going to regret it soon due to the above.

 

Re: From now on papillon2

Posted by Dinah on October 22, 2012, at 16:17:40

In reply to Re: From now on, posted by papillon2 on October 22, 2012, at 8:11:46

I'll answer you below. Lou has mentioned on Admin that he'd prefer this discussion not to be included on his thread.

I can respect that.

I'll start a new thread below.

 

Re: Lou's reply-to schleprock, bryanb and sleepygirl Dinah

Posted by 10derheart on October 22, 2012, at 19:03:49

In reply to Re: Lou's reply-to schleprock, bryanb and sleepygirl Lou Pilder, posted by Dinah on October 21, 2012, at 12:04:40

oh Dinah, thank you and bless you.

Finally,I can see AND describe the huge elephant in the room!!

I support you in this and will try to do the same.

 

:) 10derheart

Posted by Dinah on October 22, 2012, at 23:02:26

In reply to Re: Lou's reply-to schleprock, bryanb and sleepygirl Dinah, posted by 10derheart on October 22, 2012, at 19:03:49

It's nice to talk to you. I've missed that.

 

Lou, the most unethical person here. Shame on You Lou Pilder

Posted by AlexCanada on October 24, 2012, at 18:36:39

In reply to Lou's response- AlexCanada, posted by Lou Pilder on October 20, 2012, at 13:16:38

I got a google search for you. Try and look up the term ''Ignorance''.

You are a repulsive menace whom is attempting to cause people to stop taking their medications. You are not a doctor and your actions here are disgusting, detestable, unethical, and dangerous. You single handedly are likely the cause of at least a few deaths due to your attempts to brainwash people into thinking medications have no place in people's lives.

If you want to selectively preach the gospel please do it elsewhere! Spare us your scientology.

> >
> > If it wasn't for meds I would not be here today. You are well known to have a reputation of believing that the human brain is the only organ in the body to not get sick. Which is absolutely irrational.
> >
> > If you want a real statistic then here I am. I am here thanks to Meds! Get lost and stop trying to cause people harm.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > > > > > > > > Friends
> > > > > > > > > > I can compute the probability of you dying in relation to how many years you have left to live based on the drugs yoiu take and for how long.
> > > > > > > > > > If you would like me to compute your chances of living as to how many years until your death, post here the following:
> > > > > > > > > > A. The drugs you take now
> > > > > > > > > > B. The amount of time you have taken each drug.
> > > > > > > > > > I will use advanced statistics to compute your chances of living. The death-o-meter is a general prediction so your results may vary. This is not to tell you to stop your drugs, for people kill themselves when in withdrawal. If you want to withdrawal from these drugs, I could help you, but the prohibitions here from Mr Hsiung to me prevent me from posting what is needed by me that IMHHHO could save your life.
> > > > > > > > > > Lou
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Friends,
> > > > > > > > > Many of you already know that there are members here that are searching for a way out. A way out of addiction, depression, anxiety fear of death and such. It has been revealed to me how one could do that. It seems to me that members here would want to know that and go to Mr Hsiung to have him change his policy as to the foundation of Judaism as revealed to me so that I could post here what could lead you out of the darkness of depression and adddiction into a marvelous light.
> > > > > > > > > This thread was innitated by me for those that want to kno how many years they could go by taking their drugs before the drugs kill them as there are statistics that can reveal that that I can tell you.
> > > > > > > > > Now I have posted here that I do not want to have you stop your drugs because in wihdrawal there are people that kill themselves. And I could help people withdrawal without killing themselves if the posts that could arouse antisemitic feelings that are allowed to stand and I have outstanding requests about, were made not outstanding. Can't you see, that when you are told that others are superior to Jews and that Jewish children can not have forgiveness from and eternal life from the God that they give service and worship to because they do not (redacted by respondent)Jesus whch Mr Hsiung allows here to stand and even allows the poster to write that the bible says such? I think that the member here have a duty to redacted by respondent) and support life. That is why thois thread is about death. I want you to live, not die. And if you do not like my attempt to save lives here then you can (redacted by respondent).
> > > > > > > > > Lou
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Friends,
> > > > > > > > Many of you may not know that I have been here a long time, even from the start. I have seen many members die here from the drugs. But now there is not much time left for some. You see, I see a great statistical anomoly. This is because IMHO there is an indoctrination that could be goin' on here to lead people to believe particular (false) ideas about Jews, and me as a Jew. And because of that IMHHHO there are going to be many people die here soon from the drugs that they take. It stands out to me so visible that I want to warn you of the hard rain that is going to fall. But as in the days of Noah, we have somerhing differnt here. One can get on the ark and the door will not be shut. For I have a way for you to have a way out of the deluge of death that I see coming here.
> > > > > > > > Lou
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Friends,
> > > > > > > This thread is for people that want to know as to the drugs that they are taking, as to how long they could live until the drugs kill them. If I was to know the drugs taken and the amount of time I could compute statistically a probability for that. I also could use the archive for more definition. Now for those that are not interested, they could go elseware and even start a new thread with their ideas about drugs and death.
> > > > > > > So let it be for the interested people here. I come to offer help in relation to warning those that may be misled into thinking that these drugs could not kill them. They kill by many ways. One is by inducing a mind-altered state to compel them to want to kill themselves. This could happen in withdrawal and someone posted here that just switching drugs could cause one to kill themselves.
> > > > > > > Yet today, people here offer advise to others to switch drugs. They also offer advise to take a drug that could induce homocidal thinking and/or suicidal thinking.
> > > > > > > Here is one case of death here. The FDA now admits that a lot of these drugs can increase suicidal thinking. But it is much more than that. Look at the posts here of all those that want to kill themselves. Look also at the drugs that they list taking. And look at the drugs advised by others for them to take. Is it not plainly visible what is goin' on here? Is the road of druggin' leading to being free from depression and addiction, or are the drugs causing addicton and depression? And telling others to go down that road of drugs, I ask if they know what's waiting 'round the bend.
> > > > > > > I am prohibited here from posting what the scriptures that the Jews use prescribe to those that tell others to take mind-altering drugs. I am prohibited here from posting what IMHO could save your life. But I say to you, that 42,000 people or so died last year from these drugs and before that and after that, a progression that sums to a great multitude of deaths. I have seen the Great Multitude, for it has been revealed to me and I am prohibited from posting about that here by the prohibitions made to me by Mr. Hsiung. And going forward I think that the advertising and other aspects could make that number higher and going forward higher and higher. For you that are alive now, just remember those millions of deaths that could be counted of those that the drugs killed going forward and those that have already been killed going back 50 years.
> > > > > > > Hear is one post of those that killed themselves that were members here.
> > > > > > > Lou
> > > > > > > http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/20020308/msgs/3971.html
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Friends,
> > > > > > Here is a video that I would like for interested members here to view.
> > > > > > Lou
> > > > > > To see this video,
> > > > > > A. Pull up Google
> > > > > > B. Type in:
> > > > > > [youtube, Psychiatric drugs-search warnings,studies & side effects]
> > > > >
> > > > > Friends,
> > > > > One of the dta bases that I use to compute your chances are of your death from the drugs that you take come from that data base of the FDA. So if you wnt to contest their data, please contact them, not me. I do trust their data and so does the Mayo Clinic.
> > > > > Here is a link to show your chances of your death from taking xanax.
> > > > > Lou
> > > > > http://www.ehealthme.com/ds/xanax/death
> > > >
> > > > Friends,
> > > > There are many ways that I use to cpmpute probabilities in relation to the chances of death from mind-altering drugs. One site from many that I use is as follows and you could look through the sit and make your own determination as to its credibility :
> > > > http://www.ehealthme.com/aboutus
> > > > Then there are the posts by the members that have died here and as to how one could detrmoine if they killed hemselves. Some have emails from their survivors saying that they killed themselves. Then there are the posts by the members that could say that they had suicidal thinking after taking a drug. hen there is the report that he person died from "accidental overdose". The drug did kill thembut there is the question fo how could someone accidental overose when they were taking psychotropic drugs as prescribed at a particular dosage? ANd who is to determine if the death was accidental and how could that determination be made? Could not the person killed themselves deliberatly?
> > > > Then there is the deaths by heart attack or cardiac arrest.
> > > > Now in the cases where there was not heart conditions present before the drugs, then that could be evidence that the drug did the killing and there are forensic tests if the family or police and such so want. Then there is liver failure, and other organ failures that can be determined as to if the drug caused the death.
> > > > Now the statistics from the FDA say what is what. And ehealthme uses those statistics and others.
> > > > Here is another link;
> > > > Lou
> > > > http://www.ehealthme.com/ds/risperdal/death
> > > >
> > >
> > > Friends,
> > > Now here comes some ways that I compute the chances of death. for instance, in the Risperdal stat, which is over 4%, we have the following reasoning depicted by ehealthme. But it is much more than that. Another aspect that I use is if the member is advised to swith their drug . And then does the member have the way to by-pass the psychiatrist/doctor/prescriber and take the advised drug behind the prescriber's back. Now if the psychiatrist/prescriber is doing what is right in relation to giving drugs, then could not one telling the prescriber that they want another drug lead the prescriber to think that they are a bozo for not issueing the drug in the first place? Can you not see that there is a danger here by people advising others to take a drug that is not prescribed to the other? And could not death result if the person skips their doctor's visit to get a prescription for the drug? And could not a case be made to arrest the advisor if the other member dies from the drug advised to take? Maybe that person is allergic to the advised drug and dies from one pill.
> > > Here is another link
> > > Lou
> > > http://www.ehealthme.com/ds/paxil/death
> >
> > Friends,
> What is written by the poster here could lead you to think that mind-altering chemicals called psychiatric medicines, could save your life or your child's life and such and you will use that line of thinking to be indoctrinated to drug your child or yourself or such.
> But I say to you, that each month around 3,600 people die from psycihiatric drugs in one way or another. And that there is evidence that psychiatric drugs {increase} suicidal thoughts and violence. And could someone really claim that because they are not dead that taking mind-altering drugs that could give horrific life-ruining conditions or addiction or death be saving their life?
> Friends, I know what causes people to think about killing themselves. And there are prohibitions to me here by Mr Hsiung that prevent me from posting that here. Now the poster here can post that claim that psychotropic drugs have kept him/her alive. Really? Could the fact that one is alive prove that the drugs that they take keep them from killig themselves, if that is what is meant, when thousands of people each year kill themselves and others while on these drugs? Where is the rationallity seen in that type of claim?
> I would like for parents thinking to drug their child or not to view the following video. I would like people trying to make a more informed, educated decision as to start taking psychiatric drugs to view this video. I would like psychiarists that are questoning the effects of the drugs that they prescribe to view this video. I would like for those that have had loved ones die while they were taking thses drug to view this video. I would like for those that have been taking thses drugs that have had some of their humanity taken away by these drugs to view this video. I would like for those that think that giving someone a drug that could kill them or addict them or induce a life-ruining condition in them to constitute a crims, a crime against humanity, to view this video.
> And after that if you think that taking a psychotropic drug will prevent you from killing yourself, or cure some type of illness that woud result in death by some other means other than suicide, I invite you to post here with your rationale, if there is any, and then I will post more to you and give other readers their right to know the facts, even with the prohibitions to me here by Mr Hsiung so that you could live and not be a victim of psychiatric drugging that could lead to addiction, life-ruining conditions or death.
> To see this video:
> A. Pull up Google
> B. Type in:
> [youtube, Psychiatric Drugs-Increased Suicides & Violent Acts]
> posted on Dec 30 2011....11 min long
>
>

 

Lou's response-pantzonphyer AlexCanada

Posted by Lou Pilder on October 24, 2012, at 18:50:54

In reply to Lou, the most unethical person here. Shame on You Lou Pilder, posted by AlexCanada on October 24, 2012, at 18:36:39

> I got a google search for you. Try and look up the term ''Ignorance''.
>
> You are a repulsive menace whom is attempting to cause people to stop taking their medications. You are not a doctor and your actions here are disgusting, detestable, unethical, and dangerous. You single handedly are likely the cause of at least a few deaths due to your attempts to brainwash people into thinking medications have no place in people's lives.
>
> If you want to selectively preach the gospel please do it elsewhere! Spare us your scientology.
>
> > >
> > > If it wasn't for meds I would not be here today. You are well known to have a reputation of believing that the human brain is the only organ in the body to not get sick. Which is absolutely irrational.
> > >
> > > If you want a real statistic then here I am. I am here thanks to Meds! Get lost and stop trying to cause people harm.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Friends
> > > > > > > > > > > I can compute the probability of you dying in relation to how many years you have left to live based on the drugs yoiu take and for how long.
> > > > > > > > > > > If you would like me to compute your chances of living as to how many years until your death, post here the following:
> > > > > > > > > > > A. The drugs you take now
> > > > > > > > > > > B. The amount of time you have taken each drug.
> > > > > > > > > > > I will use advanced statistics to compute your chances of living. The death-o-meter is a general prediction so your results may vary. This is not to tell you to stop your drugs, for people kill themselves when in withdrawal. If you want to withdrawal from these drugs, I could help you, but the prohibitions here from Mr Hsiung to me prevent me from posting what is needed by me that IMHHHO could save your life.
> > > > > > > > > > > Lou
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Friends,
> > > > > > > > > > Many of you already know that there are members here that are searching for a way out. A way out of addiction, depression, anxiety fear of death and such. It has been revealed to me how one could do that. It seems to me that members here would want to know that and go to Mr Hsiung to have him change his policy as to the foundation of Judaism as revealed to me so that I could post here what could lead you out of the darkness of depression and adddiction into a marvelous light.
> > > > > > > > > > This thread was innitated by me for those that want to kno how many years they could go by taking their drugs before the drugs kill them as there are statistics that can reveal that that I can tell you.
> > > > > > > > > > Now I have posted here that I do not want to have you stop your drugs because in wihdrawal there are people that kill themselves. And I could help people withdrawal without killing themselves if the posts that could arouse antisemitic feelings that are allowed to stand and I have outstanding requests about, were made not outstanding. Can't you see, that when you are told that others are superior to Jews and that Jewish children can not have forgiveness from and eternal life from the God that they give service and worship to because they do not (redacted by respondent)Jesus whch Mr Hsiung allows here to stand and even allows the poster to write that the bible says such? I think that the member here have a duty to redacted by respondent) and support life. That is why thois thread is about death. I want you to live, not die. And if you do not like my attempt to save lives here then you can (redacted by respondent).
> > > > > > > > > > Lou
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Friends,
> > > > > > > > > Many of you may not know that I have been here a long time, even from the start. I have seen many members die here from the drugs. But now there is not much time left for some. You see, I see a great statistical anomoly. This is because IMHO there is an indoctrination that could be goin' on here to lead people to believe particular (false) ideas about Jews, and me as a Jew. And because of that IMHHHO there are going to be many people die here soon from the drugs that they take. It stands out to me so visible that I want to warn you of the hard rain that is going to fall. But as in the days of Noah, we have somerhing differnt here. One can get on the ark and the door will not be shut. For I have a way for you to have a way out of the deluge of death that I see coming here.
> > > > > > > > > Lou
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Friends,
> > > > > > > > This thread is for people that want to know as to the drugs that they are taking, as to how long they could live until the drugs kill them. If I was to know the drugs taken and the amount of time I could compute statistically a probability for that. I also could use the archive for more definition. Now for those that are not interested, they could go elseware and even start a new thread with their ideas about drugs and death.
> > > > > > > > So let it be for the interested people here. I come to offer help in relation to warning those that may be misled into thinking that these drugs could not kill them. They kill by many ways. One is by inducing a mind-altered state to compel them to want to kill themselves. This could happen in withdrawal and someone posted here that just switching drugs could cause one to kill themselves.
> > > > > > > > Yet today, people here offer advise to others to switch drugs. They also offer advise to take a drug that could induce homocidal thinking and/or suicidal thinking.
> > > > > > > > Here is one case of death here. The FDA now admits that a lot of these drugs can increase suicidal thinking. But it is much more than that. Look at the posts here of all those that want to kill themselves. Look also at the drugs that they list taking. And look at the drugs advised by others for them to take. Is it not plainly visible what is goin' on here? Is the road of druggin' leading to being free from depression and addiction, or are the drugs causing addicton and depression? And telling others to go down that road of drugs, I ask if they know what's waiting 'round the bend.
> > > > > > > > I am prohibited here from posting what the scriptures that the Jews use prescribe to those that tell others to take mind-altering drugs. I am prohibited here from posting what IMHO could save your life. But I say to you, that 42,000 people or so died last year from these drugs and before that and after that, a progression that sums to a great multitude of deaths. I have seen the Great Multitude, for it has been revealed to me and I am prohibited from posting about that here by the prohibitions made to me by Mr. Hsiung. And going forward I think that the advertising and other aspects could make that number higher and going forward higher and higher. For you that are alive now, just remember those millions of deaths that could be counted of those that the drugs killed going forward and those that have already been killed going back 50 years.
> > > > > > > > Hear is one post of those that killed themselves that were members here.
> > > > > > > > Lou
> > > > > > > > http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/20020308/msgs/3971.html
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Friends,
> > > > > > > Here is a video that I would like for interested members here to view.
> > > > > > > Lou
> > > > > > > To see this video,
> > > > > > > A. Pull up Google
> > > > > > > B. Type in:
> > > > > > > [youtube, Psychiatric drugs-search warnings,studies & side effects]
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Friends,
> > > > > > One of the dta bases that I use to compute your chances are of your death from the drugs that you take come from that data base of the FDA. So if you wnt to contest their data, please contact them, not me. I do trust their data and so does the Mayo Clinic.
> > > > > > Here is a link to show your chances of your death from taking xanax.
> > > > > > Lou
> > > > > > http://www.ehealthme.com/ds/xanax/death
> > > > >
> > > > > Friends,
> > > > > There are many ways that I use to cpmpute probabilities in relation to the chances of death from mind-altering drugs. One site from many that I use is as follows and you could look through the sit and make your own determination as to its credibility :
> > > > > http://www.ehealthme.com/aboutus
> > > > > Then there are the posts by the members that have died here and as to how one could detrmoine if they killed hemselves. Some have emails from their survivors saying that they killed themselves. Then there are the posts by the members that could say that they had suicidal thinking after taking a drug. hen there is the report that he person died from "accidental overdose". The drug did kill thembut there is the question fo how could someone accidental overose when they were taking psychotropic drugs as prescribed at a particular dosage? ANd who is to determine if the death was accidental and how could that determination be made? Could not the person killed themselves deliberatly?
> > > > > Then there is the deaths by heart attack or cardiac arrest.
> > > > > Now in the cases where there was not heart conditions present before the drugs, then that could be evidence that the drug did the killing and there are forensic tests if the family or police and such so want. Then there is liver failure, and other organ failures that can be determined as to if the drug caused the death.
> > > > > Now the statistics from the FDA say what is what. And ehealthme uses those statistics and others.
> > > > > Here is another link;
> > > > > Lou
> > > > > http://www.ehealthme.com/ds/risperdal/death
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Friends,
> > > > Now here comes some ways that I compute the chances of death. for instance, in the Risperdal stat, which is over 4%, we have the following reasoning depicted by ehealthme. But it is much more than that. Another aspect that I use is if the member is advised to swith their drug . And then does the member have the way to by-pass the psychiatrist/doctor/prescriber and take the advised drug behind the prescriber's back. Now if the psychiatrist/prescriber is doing what is right in relation to giving drugs, then could not one telling the prescriber that they want another drug lead the prescriber to think that they are a bozo for not issueing the drug in the first place? Can you not see that there is a danger here by people advising others to take a drug that is not prescribed to the other? And could not death result if the person skips their doctor's visit to get a prescription for the drug? And could not a case be made to arrest the advisor if the other member dies from the drug advised to take? Maybe that person is allergic to the advised drug and dies from one pill.
> > > > Here is another link
> > > > Lou
> > > > http://www.ehealthme.com/ds/paxil/death
> > >
> > > Friends,
> > What is written by the poster here could lead you to think that mind-altering chemicals called psychiatric medicines, could save your life or your child's life and such and you will use that line of thinking to be indoctrinated to drug your child or yourself or such.
> > But I say to you, that each month around 3,600 people die from psycihiatric drugs in one way or another. And that there is evidence that psychiatric drugs {increase} suicidal thoughts and violence. And could someone really claim that because they are not dead that taking mind-altering drugs that could give horrific life-ruining conditions or addiction or death be saving their life?
> > Friends, I know what causes people to think about killing themselves. And there are prohibitions to me here by Mr Hsiung that prevent me from posting that here. Now the poster here can post that claim that psychotropic drugs have kept him/her alive. Really? Could the fact that one is alive prove that the drugs that they take keep them from killig themselves, if that is what is meant, when thousands of people each year kill themselves and others while on these drugs? Where is the rationallity seen in that type of claim?
> > I would like for parents thinking to drug their child or not to view the following video. I would like people trying to make a more informed, educated decision as to start taking psychiatric drugs to view this video. I would like psychiarists that are questoning the effects of the drugs that they prescribe to view this video. I would like for those that have had loved ones die while they were taking thses drug to view this video. I would like for those that have been taking thses drugs that have had some of their humanity taken away by these drugs to view this video. I would like for those that think that giving someone a drug that could kill them or addict them or induce a life-ruining condition in them to constitute a crims, a crime against humanity, to view this video.
> > And after that if you think that taking a psychotropic drug will prevent you from killing yourself, or cure some type of illness that woud result in death by some other means other than suicide, I invite you to post here with your rationale, if there is any, and then I will post more to you and give other readers their right to know the facts, even with the prohibitions to me here by Mr Hsiung so that you could live and not be a victim of psychiatric drugging that could lead to addiction, life-ruining conditions or death.
> > To see this video:
> > A. Pull up Google
> > B. Type in:
> > [youtube, Psychiatric Drugs-Increased Suicides & Violent Acts]
> > posted on Dec 30 2011....11 min long
> >
> > A_C,
You wrote,[...You are a ***** ******* whom is attempting to cause people to stop taking their medicine.
That is a lie. I have posted over and over and over agin that stopping mind-altering drugs could cause one to kill themselves and/or others.
Please do not post lies about me here or defamation for it could arouse antisemitic feelings here.
Now there is a way revealed to me that one can et through the firers of withdrawal, but the prohibitions to me here from Mr Hsiung prevent me from posting that here. not only that, but it involves the foundation of Judaism as revealed to me that is prohibited by him for me to post here.
Lou
>
>

 

Lou destroying people's lives! Why is it allowed? Dinah

Posted by AlexCanada on October 24, 2012, at 18:52:41

In reply to Re: Lou's reply-to schleprock, bryanb and sleepygirl Lou Pilder, posted by Dinah on October 21, 2012, at 12:04:40

Lou is encouraging people to not take their medication and constantly being uncivil and making disgusting offensive comments.

How on earth is he not banned from this forum? This board continues to dwindle in membership with less active posters than years ago and the moderators need to get a clue as to why this is happening. It's because of double standard anti-med agenda pushers who are dismantling this place one day at a time.

I personally am sickened to even go on this board hardly anymore because every day I see anti-med jargon and fairy tales from this unethical person whom calls me a flat out liar while calling others anti-semites just so he can continue on his ill-informed anti-drug agenda.

Not everyone needs medication but there has to be a realization that some issues do require it for the individuals own good. That is why there is a difference between Depression and Clinical Depression. One is more mild than the other. And one requires medical assistance.

My life was in torment before medication. If I took Lou's advice I'd be dead. So yes I will be very damn offended by his disgusting comments.

We need to stand up against this. This is more than just how he may effect me or you. This is about how he effects the entire board and the hundreds of lurkers who browse for information because they are looking for genuine help. Lou's actions cause some people to question if medications are necessary. Some of these people are going through such hardships where it may be difficult to think clearly. I used to be at a point where everything looked so dark, grim, negative that it was extremely difficult to see the world through anything but the negative lens. When this occurs it is easy to think that ''nothing'' will help. This can lead certain individuals to commit suicide. When you destroy the notion of hope you destory lives. When people give up on believing that medication can help for their severe disorders then lives are lost.

Lou is directly being responsible for causing tremendous harm to countless individuals. This should Not be tolerated under any circumstance!

> You constantly indirectly refer to people on this board as antisemites (even if they happen to be Jewish), you accuse them of being one step away of committing antisemitic violence if they take a prozac, you call them pill pushers, you accuse them of killing other people by suggesting medications, and now you're calling them liars. Indirect it may be, but it's still uncivil.
>
> You think we can't see through your multiple choice questions to the accusations contained within?
>
> And we're supposed to cut you slack because of who you are? I'm sick of it Lou. Sick of it. Every indirect accusation that comes out of your mouth will now be challenged by me.

 

Lou's response-yngahthrt AlexCanada

Posted by Lou Pilder on October 24, 2012, at 18:57:52

In reply to Lou destroying people's lives! Why is it allowed? Dinah, posted by AlexCanada on October 24, 2012, at 18:52:41

> Lou is encouraging people to not take their medication and constantly being uncivil and making disgusting offensive comments.
>
> How on earth is he not banned from this forum? This board continues to dwindle in membership with less active posters than years ago and the moderators need to get a clue as to why this is happening. It's because of double standard anti-med agenda pushers who are dismantling this place one day at a time.
>
> I personally am sickened to even go on this board hardly anymore because every day I see anti-med jargon and fairy tales from this unethical person whom calls me a flat out liar while calling others anti-semites just so he can continue on his ill-informed anti-drug agenda.
>
> Not everyone needs medication but there has to be a realization that some issues do require it for the individuals own good. That is why there is a difference between Depression and Clinical Depression. One is more mild than the other. And one requires medical assistance.
>
> My life was in torment before medication. If I took Lou's advice I'd be dead. So yes I will be very damn offended by his disgusting comments.
>
> We need to stand up against this. This is more than just how he may effect me or you. This is about how he effects the entire board and the hundreds of lurkers who browse for information because they are looking for genuine help. Lou's actions cause some people to question if medications are necessary. Some of these people are going through such hardships where it may be difficult to think clearly. I used to be at a point where everything looked so dark, grim, negative that it was extremely difficult to see the world through anything but the negative lens. When this occurs it is easy to think that ''nothing'' will help. This can lead certain individuals to commit suicide. When you destroy the notion of hope you destory lives. When people give up on believing that medication can help for their severe disorders then lives are lost.
>
> Lou is directly being responsible for causing tremendous harm to countless individuals. This should Not be tolerated under any circumstance!
>
> > You constantly indirectly refer to people on this board as antisemites (even if they happen to be Jewish), you accuse them of being one step away of committing antisemitic violence if they take a prozac, you call them pill pushers, you accuse them of killing other people by suggesting medications, and now you're calling them liars. Indirect it may be, but it's still uncivil.
> >
> > You think we can't see through your multiple choice questions to the accusations contained within?
> >
> > And we're supposed to cut you slack because of who you are? I'm sick of it Lou. Sick of it. Every indirect accusation that comes out of your mouth will now be challenged by me.
>
> A_C,
What are the {fairy tales}?
Lou


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