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Dr. Bob is Robert Hsiung, MD,
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Posted by SLS on September 13, 2012, at 8:17:21
In reply to How You Can Help, posted by AlexCanada on September 12, 2012, at 11:57:47
Although this forum is no longer actively moderated, I would just offer that one can take a look at this site's FAQ to get some idea as to what the manager of the site had in mind. Just like in the "real world", subsequent decisions made by management represent precedents and adjustments in these rules of civility.
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faq.html#civil
- Scott
Posted by schleprock on September 13, 2012, at 10:43:16
In reply to Lou's response-the deluge, posted by Lou Pilder on September 13, 2012, at 5:55:32
> > How does this post offer her any meaningful advice? Most of your post is copy and paste spam which you have used many times before. Why do you insist on wasting people's time?
> >
> > If you wish to ''save lives'' you can go on various forums and warn of the dangers of Accutane which is responsible for causing serious mental illness in countless individuals. A strong and profoundly dangerous medication which is practically given out as candy for ''acne'' yet causes vitamin A toxicity and mental illness in many.
> >
> > There are many ways in which you can help ''save lives'' but your posts on this forum are not the way due to your beliefs that the human brain is somehow the only organ in the human body which cannot become sick.
> >
> > > > How bout what to do as you get old and lose hope in every feeling better when physical illness also enters the picture. And I'm serious. Phillipa
> > >
> > > Phillipa,
> > > You wrote,[...what to do as you get old..lose hope...].
> > > Many here already know that I have been attempting to save lives here, but not only that, to tell you the way to overcome death.
> > > You see, I know what death is and I know how all could not fear death. But the prohibitions to me here by Mr Hsiung prevent me from posting what has been revealed to me that could alleviate the worry about death and give hope and a prescription as to what you can do in old age.
> > > One way that I could offer you more of what has been revealed to me could be to read my posts on the admin board and post there and I could respond to you there. My responses will come from a Jewish perspective which is prohibited by Mr Hsiung to me in relation to what has been revealed to me concerning your requests to me here. You see, by Mr Hsiung making the prohibitions to me, then he can control the content here, which can lead to an indoctrination. He states that by doing what he does in his thinking, that it will be good for this community as a whole. But I want to have people live without the fear of death and old age which I am prohibited from posting what has been revealed to me from a Jewish perspective. Time will be the judge of what {will be good for this community as a whole} and if the restraining to me of what I can or can not post could have lead you to a more abundant life or not,and give you hope.
> > > Lou
> >
> > Friends,
> It is written about me here in the above post. The author of the post about me brings up many aspects of this site that Mr Hsiung states in his TOS here that what he does in his thinking will be good for this community as a whole. Really? How could one determine if or if not what Mr Hsiung does in his thinking will be good for this community as a whole? Time will be the judge as to if what Mr Hsiung allows as support and eduction was or was not good for this community as a whole.
> I have to let it be perfectly clear that I see a great catastrophy in the life-ruining conditions and deaths of many here and I am trying to stop the advancement of death here. Sure I could post in another forum but could I not also post here also?
> You see, I think that people here could be indoctrinated by the party line of psychiatry that uses the chemical imbalance theory that could lead people to believe that they have to take mind-altering chemicals to fix the imbalance. But what if that theory is false? Could not then people that believe it keep going on and on in their life seeking another drug to correct the imbalance since the first one did not? And as they go down that road, addiction and life-ruining conditions and death could follow them all the days of their lives. Is to lead people to believe that theory supportive?
> Here is an article ,recent, that I would like those considering to be discussants in this thread to read.
> Lou
> To see this article:
> A. Bring up Google
> B. Type in:
> [Psychiatry's Grand Confession|Mad in America]
> posted on July 7, 2012
>
>That's a very nice article Lou. By the way, did you know that high cholestrol does NOT cause heart disease?
A. Bring up Google
B. Type in:
[high cholestrol does not cause heart disease] (see the very first article)And that's not all. Another lie we've all been told is that obesity causes diabetes. Want proof that the opposite is true?
A. Bring up Google
B. Type in:
[obesity does not cause diabetes] (see the first article)Let's see whatever widespread medical myths we can disprove on the internet!
Posted by brynb on September 13, 2012, at 16:59:15
In reply to Lou's Little Shoppe-reply to Phillipa » Phillipa, posted by Lou Pilder on September 9, 2012, at 11:00:47
> Phillipa,
> You wrote,[...what to do as you get old..lose hope...].
> Many here already know that I have been attempting to save lives here, but not only that, to tell you the way to overcome death.
> You see, I know what death is and I know how all could not fear death. But the prohibitions to me here by Mr Hsiung prevent me from posting what has been revealed to me that could alleviate the worry about death and give hope and a prescription as to what you can do in old age.
> One way that I could offer you more of what has been revealed to me could be to read my posts on the admin board and post there and I could respond to you there. My responses will come from a Jewish perspective which is prohibited by Mr Hsiung to me in relation to what has been revealed to me concerning your requests to me here. You see, by Mr Hsiung making the prohibitions to me, then he can control the content here, which can lead to an indoctrination. He states that by doing what he does in his thinking, that it will be good for this community as a whole. But I want to have people live without the fear of death and old age which I am prohibited from posting what has been revealed to me from a Jewish perspective. Time will be the judge of what {will be good for this community as a whole} and if the restraining to me of what I can or can not post could have lead you to a more abundant life or not,and give you hope.
> LouLou,
I honestly don't understand why trying to help people through a Jewish perspective isn't allowed on this site. And I still haven't seen instances of anti-semitism. It seems that Christian values are expressed and often cited as support for those going through a difficult time. So why might a Jewish viewpoint be prohibited?
-b
Posted by Lou Pilder on September 13, 2012, at 17:51:26
In reply to Re: Lou's Little Shoppe » Lou Pilder, posted by brynb on September 13, 2012, at 16:59:15
> > Phillipa,
> > You wrote,[...what to do as you get old..lose hope...].
> > Many here already know that I have been attempting to save lives here, but not only that, to tell you the way to overcome death.
> > You see, I know what death is and I know how all could not fear death. But the prohibitions to me here by Mr Hsiung prevent me from posting what has been revealed to me that could alleviate the worry about death and give hope and a prescription as to what you can do in old age.
> > One way that I could offer you more of what has been revealed to me could be to read my posts on the admin board and post there and I could respond to you there. My responses will come from a Jewish perspective which is prohibited by Mr Hsiung to me in relation to what has been revealed to me concerning your requests to me here. You see, by Mr Hsiung making the prohibitions to me, then he can control the content here, which can lead to an indoctrination. He states that by doing what he does in his thinking, that it will be good for this community as a whole. But I want to have people live without the fear of death and old age which I am prohibited from posting what has been revealed to me from a Jewish perspective. Time will be the judge of what {will be good for this community as a whole} and if the restraining to me of what I can or can not post could have lead you to a more abundant life or not,and give you hope.
> > Lou
>
> Lou,
>
> I honestly don't understand why trying to help people through a Jewish perspective isn't allowed on this site. And I still haven't seen instances of anti-semitism. It seems that Christian values are expressed and often cited as support for those going through a difficult time. So why might a Jewish viewpoint be prohibited?
>
> -bb,
You wrote the above.
Now in order for me to have a iscussion conerning what you wrote, I would like for you to:
A. o a search and find out about {anit-Judaism} and {antisemitism} which have different aspects concerning Jews.
B. Also, I would like for youto read the posts by me on the admin board including going back 4 archives. You could post from your perspective in those posts and then I could have the opportunity to respond to you there.
C. Look at the following post:
To see the post:
1. Go to the search box at the end of ths page
2. Type in:
[admin,7968]
You may have to go through the first posts that come up and find the {7968} in the colord strip
D. Do a search on {replaceent theology}
Lou
Posted by Lou Pilder on September 13, 2012, at 18:18:40
In reply to Lou's Little Shoppe-reply to brynb-ahnteighgudsn » brynb, posted by Lou Pilder on September 13, 2012, at 17:51:26
> > > Phillipa,
> > > You wrote,[...what to do as you get old..lose hope...].
> > > Many here already know that I have been attempting to save lives here, but not only that, to tell you the way to overcome death.
> > > You see, I know what death is and I know how all could not fear death. But the prohibitions to me here by Mr Hsiung prevent me from posting what has been revealed to me that could alleviate the worry about death and give hope and a prescription as to what you can do in old age.
> > > One way that I could offer you more of what has been revealed to me could be to read my posts on the admin board and post there and I could respond to you there. My responses will come from a Jewish perspective which is prohibited by Mr Hsiung to me in relation to what has been revealed to me concerning your requests to me here. You see, by Mr Hsiung making the prohibitions to me, then he can control the content here, which can lead to an indoctrination. He states that by doing what he does in his thinking, that it will be good for this community as a whole. But I want to have people live without the fear of death and old age which I am prohibited from posting what has been revealed to me from a Jewish perspective. Time will be the judge of what {will be good for this community as a whole} and if the restraining to me of what I can or can not post could have lead you to a more abundant life or not,and give you hope.
> > > Lou
> >
> > Lou,
> >
> > I honestly don't understand why trying to help people through a Jewish perspective isn't allowed on this site. And I still haven't seen instances of anti-semitism. It seems that Christian values are expressed and often cited as support for those going through a difficult time. So why might a Jewish viewpoint be prohibited?
> >
> > -b
>
> b,
> You wrote the above.
> Now in order for me to have a iscussion conerning what you wrote, I would like for you to:
> A. o a search and find out about {anit-Judaism} and {antisemitism} which have different aspects concerning Jews.
> B. Also, I would like for youto read the posts by me on the admin board including going back 4 archives. You could post from your perspective in those posts and then I could have the opportunity to respond to you there.
> C. Look at the following post:
> To see the post:
> 1. Go to the search box at the end of ths page
> 2. Type in:
> [admin,7968]
> You may have to go through the first posts that come up and find the {7968} in the colord strip
> D. Do a search on {replaceent theology}
> Loub,
You wrote,[...I don't understand why..a Jewish perspective is not allowed on this site
One of the reasons of Mr Hsiung in his thinking, is that the Jewish perspective in question can't be posted because there could be someone here that believes in more than one God. {polytheism}.
Now there also may be people here that do not accept the claims of Christiandom, but the Christiandomn people can post them as being supportive because Mr. Hsiung states that is OK and to see that post, you can go to the admin board and see the outstanding requests from me to Mr Hsiung concerning that. Since my requests for his rationale is still outstanding, then that brings up a different issue that I can tie into this discussion if you go to the admin board and find my request to Mr Hsung concerning,[...the only way someone will miss out...is if they reject ...]
Now when you find that thread, then I would like for you to post there from your perspective concerning what you see and then I will respond there. And also, you could see posts that are allowed to stand that could arouse antisemitic feelings which IMHO could result in me being a victim of antisemitic violence, or any Jew to be a target for violence or murder. This may answer another member's request to me as to why I post here. My attempts here, even though there are many prohibitions to me by Mr Hsiung, might prevent Jews from being bullied by those that have feelings of superiority {false} toward Jews and {redacted by respondent}. But I can overcome anyone's ignorance about Jews.
Lou
Posted by schleprock on September 13, 2012, at 19:27:10
In reply to Lou's Little Shoppe-reply to brynb-whtupsea, posted by Lou Pilder on September 13, 2012, at 18:18:40
> > > > Phillipa,
> > > > You wrote,[...what to do as you get old..lose hope...].
> > > > Many here already know that I have been attempting to save lives here, but not only that, to tell you the way to overcome death.
> > > > You see, I know what death is and I know how all could not fear death. But the prohibitions to me here by Mr Hsiung prevent me from posting what has been revealed to me that could alleviate the worry about death and give hope and a prescription as to what you can do in old age.
> > > > One way that I could offer you more of what has been revealed to me could be to read my posts on the admin board and post there and I could respond to you there. My responses will come from a Jewish perspective which is prohibited by Mr Hsiung to me in relation to what has been revealed to me concerning your requests to me here. You see, by Mr Hsiung making the prohibitions to me, then he can control the content here, which can lead to an indoctrination. He states that by doing what he does in his thinking, that it will be good for this community as a whole. But I want to have people live without the fear of death and old age which I am prohibited from posting what has been revealed to me from a Jewish perspective. Time will be the judge of what {will be good for this community as a whole} and if the restraining to me of what I can or can not post could have lead you to a more abundant life or not,and give you hope.
> > > > Lou
> > >
> > > Lou,
> > >
> > > I honestly don't understand why trying to help people through a Jewish perspective isn't allowed on this site. And I still haven't seen instances of anti-semitism. It seems that Christian values are expressed and often cited as support for those going through a difficult time. So why might a Jewish viewpoint be prohibited?
> > >
> > > -b
> >
> > b,
> > You wrote the above.
> > Now in order for me to have a iscussion conerning what you wrote, I would like for you to:
> > A. o a search and find out about {anit-Judaism} and {antisemitism} which have different aspects concerning Jews.
> > B. Also, I would like for youto read the posts by me on the admin board including going back 4 archives. You could post from your perspective in those posts and then I could have the opportunity to respond to you there.
> > C. Look at the following post:
> > To see the post:
> > 1. Go to the search box at the end of ths page
> > 2. Type in:
> > [admin,7968]
> > You may have to go through the first posts that come up and find the {7968} in the colord strip
> > D. Do a search on {replaceent theology}
> > Lou
>
> b,
> You wrote,[...I don't understand why..a Jewish perspective is not allowed on this site
> One of the reasons of Mr Hsiung in his thinking, is that the Jewish perspective in question can't be posted because there could be someone here that believes in more than one God. {polytheism}.
> Now there also may be people here that do not accept the claims of Christiandom, but the Christiandomn people can post them as being supportive because Mr. Hsiung states that is OK and to see that post, you can go to the admin board and see the outstanding requests from me to Mr Hsiung concerning that. Since my requests for his rationale is still outstanding, then that brings up a different issue that I can tie into this discussion if you go to the admin board and find my request to Mr Hsung concerning,[...the only way someone will miss out...is if they reject ...]
> Now when you find that thread, then I would like for you to post there from your perspective concerning what you see and then I will respond there. And also, you could see posts that are allowed to stand that could arouse antisemitic feelings which IMHO could result in me being a victim of antisemitic violence, or any Jew to be a target for violence or murder. This may answer another member's request to me as to why I post here. My attempts here, even though there are many prohibitions to me by Mr Hsiung, might prevent Jews from being bullied by those that have feelings of superiority {false} toward Jews and {redacted by respondent}. But I can overcome anyone's ignorance about Jews.
> LouAnyone have any luck making any sense out of this stuff yet?
Posted by Phillipa on September 13, 2012, at 20:48:02
In reply to Re: Lou's Little Shoppe-reply to brynb-whtupsea, posted by schleprock on September 13, 2012, at 19:27:10
Only that posters are anti-semetic or could be. But the kicker is a lot of other posters are already Jewish. And quite frankly I just don't care what your religious, political, or sexual preferences are. Phillipa
Posted by AlexCanada on September 13, 2012, at 21:17:20
In reply to Lou's Little Shoppe-reply to brynb-whtupsea, posted by Lou Pilder on September 13, 2012, at 18:18:40
This is a medical forum where people seek medical advice. It is not a church. There are several faith based forums your anti-drug views would be more appreciated.
> > > > Phillipa,
> > > > You wrote,[...what to do as you get old..lose hope...].
> > > > Many here already know that I have been attempting to save lives here, but not only that, to tell you the way to overcome death.
> > > > You see, I know what death is and I know how all could not fear death. But the prohibitions to me here by Mr Hsiung prevent me from posting what has been revealed to me that could alleviate the worry about death and give hope and a prescription as to what you can do in old age.
> > > > One way that I could offer you more of what has been revealed to me could be to read my posts on the admin board and post there and I could respond to you there. My responses will come from a Jewish perspective which is prohibited by Mr Hsiung to me in relation to what has been revealed to me concerning your requests to me here. You see, by Mr Hsiung making the prohibitions to me, then he can control the content here, which can lead to an indoctrination. He states that by doing what he does in his thinking, that it will be good for this community as a whole. But I want to have people live without the fear of death and old age which I am prohibited from posting what has been revealed to me from a Jewish perspective. Time will be the judge of what {will be good for this community as a whole} and if the restraining to me of what I can or can not post could have lead you to a more abundant life or not,and give you hope.
> > > > Lou
> > >
> > > Lou,
> > >
> > > I honestly don't understand why trying to help people through a Jewish perspective isn't allowed on this site. And I still haven't seen instances of anti-semitism. It seems that Christian values are expressed and often cited as support for those going through a difficult time. So why might a Jewish viewpoint be prohibited?
> > >
> > > -b
> >
> > b,
> > You wrote the above.
> > Now in order for me to have a iscussion conerning what you wrote, I would like for you to:
> > A. o a search and find out about {anit-Judaism} and {antisemitism} which have different aspects concerning Jews.
> > B. Also, I would like for youto read the posts by me on the admin board including going back 4 archives. You could post from your perspective in those posts and then I could have the opportunity to respond to you there.
> > C. Look at the following post:
> > To see the post:
> > 1. Go to the search box at the end of ths page
> > 2. Type in:
> > [admin,7968]
> > You may have to go through the first posts that come up and find the {7968} in the colord strip
> > D. Do a search on {replaceent theology}
> > Lou
>
> b,
> You wrote,[...I don't understand why..a Jewish perspective is not allowed on this site
> One of the reasons of Mr Hsiung in his thinking, is that the Jewish perspective in question can't be posted because there could be someone here that believes in more than one God. {polytheism}.
> Now there also may be people here that do not accept the claims of Christiandom, but the Christiandomn people can post them as being supportive because Mr. Hsiung states that is OK and to see that post, you can go to the admin board and see the outstanding requests from me to Mr Hsiung concerning that. Since my requests for his rationale is still outstanding, then that brings up a different issue that I can tie into this discussion if you go to the admin board and find my request to Mr Hsung concerning,[...the only way someone will miss out...is if they reject ...]
> Now when you find that thread, then I would like for you to post there from your perspective concerning what you see and then I will respond there. And also, you could see posts that are allowed to stand that could arouse antisemitic feelings which IMHO could result in me being a victim of antisemitic violence, or any Jew to be a target for violence or murder. This may answer another member's request to me as to why I post here. My attempts here, even though there are many prohibitions to me by Mr Hsiung, might prevent Jews from being bullied by those that have feelings of superiority {false} toward Jews and {redacted by respondent}. But I can overcome anyone's ignorance about Jews.
> Lou
Posted by brynb on September 13, 2012, at 21:20:20
In reply to Lou's Little Shoppe-reply to brynb-ahnteighgudsn » brynb, posted by Lou Pilder on September 13, 2012, at 17:51:26
> b,
> You wrote the above.
> Now in order for me to have a iscussion conerning what you wrote, I would like for you to:
> A. o a search and find out about {anit-Judaism} and {antisemitism} which have different aspects concerning Jews.
> B. Also, I would like for youto read the posts by me on the admin board including going back 4 archives. You could post from your perspective in those posts and then I could have the opportunity to respond to you there.
> C. Look at the following post:
> To see the post:
> 1. Go to the search box at the end of ths page
> 2. Type in:
> [admin,7968]
> You may have to go through the first posts that come up and find the {7968} in the colord strip
> D. Do a search on {replaceent theology}
> LouLou,
Are you asking me to do a search of anti-semitism here on babble, or on the internet? I haven't seen anti-semitism here, and I have no reason to look at the definition of anti-semitism online. I'm Jewish; my dad is 1st generation and my mom is 2nd generation. I'm quite familiar with the term.
I looked up your post, and truthfully, can't make sense of it. If Jewish beliefs aren't allowed to be expressed because this isn't a religious forum, then why is it that other religious views can?
Sorry, it doesn't make sense.
Posted by brynb on September 13, 2012, at 21:23:28
In reply to Re: Lou's Little Shoppe-reply to brynb-whtupsea, posted by schleprock on September 13, 2012, at 19:27:10
>
> Anyone have any luck making any sense out of this stuff yet?Schleprock,
No, lol.
-bryn
Posted by Lou Pilder on September 14, 2012, at 5:50:48
In reply to Re: Lou's Little Shoppe-reply to brynb-ahnteighgudsn » Lou Pilder, posted by brynb on September 13, 2012, at 21:20:20
>
> > b,
> > You wrote the above.
> > Now in order for me to have a iscussion conerning what you wrote, I would like for you to:
> > A. o a search and find out about {anit-Judaism} and {antisemitism} which have different aspects concerning Jews.
> > B. Also, I would like for youto read the posts by me on the admin board including going back 4 archives. You could post from your perspective in those posts and then I could have the opportunity to respond to you there.
> > C. Look at the following post:
> > To see the post:
> > 1. Go to the search box at the end of ths page
> > 2. Type in:
> > [admin,7968]
> > You may have to go through the first posts that come up and find the {7968} in the colord strip
> > D. Do a search on {replaceent theology}
> > Lou
>
> Lou,
>
> Are you asking me to do a search of anti-semitism here on babble, or on the internet? I haven't seen anti-semitism here, and I have no reason to look at the definition of anti-semitism online. I'm Jewish; my dad is 1st generation and my mom is 2nd generation. I'm quite familiar with the term.
>
> I looked up your post, and truthfully, can't make sense of it. If Jewish beliefs aren't allowed to be expressed because this isn't a religious forum, then why is it that other religious views can?
> Sorry, it doesn't make sense.
>
> b,
You wrote the above.
To understand what's goin' on here, there are many posts that may be unbeknownst to you , and others here reading this thread.
Here is a post that could bring into focus to show the crux of the issues a little better. In the following post, you can make your own determination as to if or if not antisemitic feelings could be aroused by the post and if or if not Jews are being (redacted by respondent) by the use of the administration to control the content, which could lead to an indoctrination, by allowing a statement that could have the potential to denigrate Jews to stand. Be advised that antisemitism can be determined by many methods. Mr Hsiung agrees, in one method at least, that if a statement could lead a Jew to feel put down, then it is an antisemitic statement. Now anti-Judaism can be looked up by doing a search on Google as,[anti-Judaism, wikipedia].
The first post that I would like for you to examine, can be found by going to the serch box at the bottom of this page and type in:
[admin,678393]
Now many could come up, and the one in question has the [678393] in the colored strip.
Then to see the actual post, in the search box use:
[faith,378930] and see the post with the number in the colored strip.
Be advised that I consider any statement here that has the potential to foster hatred toward the Jews, or a Jew, that is allowed to stand, something that in the future could lead one to use a Jew as a target for actng out hate. In this community, people take mind-altering drugs that there is a growing body of evidence that there is the potential that the drug could induce a mind-altered state to compel the taker of the drug to commit murder and even mass-murder. And it is my conviction that if someone in that catagory is in a community that allows statements to stand that could denigrate Jews, then the taker of the drug could target a Jew for violence or murder as that they could think that the statement is supportive . When a leader allows antisemitic statements to stand, then the antisemitism can become state-sponsored as it could be considered by some in the community to be supportive. The historical parallels of that I am prohibted, from posting here by Mr Hsiung as he has posted a prohibition to me here stating that.
Lou
Posted by brynb on September 14, 2012, at 9:18:56
In reply to Lou's Little Shoppe-reply to brynb-psteightspohns, posted by Lou Pilder on September 14, 2012, at 5:50:48
> > b,
> You wrote the above.
> To understand what's goin' on here, there are many posts that may be unbeknownst to you , and others here reading this thread.
> Here is a post that could bring into focus to show the crux of the issues a little better. In the following post, you can make your own determination as to if or if not antisemitic feelings could be aroused by the post and if or if not Jews are being (redacted by respondent) by the use of the administration to control the content, which could lead to an indoctrination, by allowing a statement that could have the potential to denigrate Jews to stand. Be advised that antisemitism can be determined by many methods. Mr Hsiung agrees, in one method at least, that if a statement could lead a Jew to feel put down, then it is an antisemitic statement. Now anti-Judaism can be looked up by doing a search on Google as,[anti-Judaism, wikipedia].
> The first post that I would like for you to examine, can be found by going to the serch box at the bottom of this page and type in:
> [admin,678393]
> Now many could come up, and the one in question has the [678393] in the colored strip.
> Then to see the actual post, in the search box use:
> [faith,378930] and see the post with the number in the colored strip.
> Be advised that I consider any statement here that has the potential to foster hatred toward the Jews, or a Jew, that is allowed to stand, something that in the future could lead one to use a Jew as a target for actng out hate. In this community, people take mind-altering drugs that there is a growing body of evidence that there is the potential that the drug could induce a mind-altered state to compel the taker of the drug to commit murder and even mass-murder. And it is my conviction that if someone in that catagory is in a community that allows statements to stand that could denigrate Jews, then the taker of the drug could target a Jew for violence or murder as that they could think that the statement is supportive . When a leader allows antisemitic statements to stand, then the antisemitism can become state-sponsored as it could be considered by some in the community to be supportive. The historical parallels of that I am prohibted, from posting here by Mr Hsiung as he has posted a prohibition to me here stating that.
> Lou
>
>Lou,
I'm not getting it. Truthfully, as a Jew, I'm much less concerned with the perceived anti-semitism on babble than I am with the current state of Israel, its dire need of support by the US and our upcoming presidential election.
-b
Posted by schleprock on September 14, 2012, at 17:25:40
In reply to Lou's Little Shoppe-reply to brynb-psteightspohns, posted by Lou Pilder on September 14, 2012, at 5:50:48
So what you're essentially saying is that this is all due to a post (that you had catalogued, I might ad) from eight years ago?
Posted by SLS on September 14, 2012, at 19:12:28
In reply to Re: Lou's Little Shoppe-reply to brynb-psteightspohns » Lou Pilder, posted by schleprock on September 14, 2012, at 17:25:40
> So what you're essentially saying is that this is all due to a post (that you had catalogued, I might ad) from eight years ago?
It's been awhile. This might be it:----------------------
Tolerance should be given to all religions that tolerate others, so long as their dogmas contain nothing contrary to the duties of citizenship. --Jean-Jacques Rousseau, The Social Contract, 1762
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faith/
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- Scott
Posted by Lou Pilder on September 15, 2012, at 18:13:15
In reply to Re: Lou's Little Shoppe-reply to brynb-psteightspohns » schleprock, posted by SLS on September 14, 2012, at 19:12:28
> > So what you're essentially saying is that this is all due to a post (that you had catalogued, I might ad) from eight years ago?
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> It's been awhile. This might be it:
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> Tolerance should be given to all religions that tolerate others, so long as their dogmas contain nothing contrary to the duties of citizenship. --Jean-Jacques Rousseau, The Social Contract, 1762
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> http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faith/
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> ----------------------
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> - Scott
Why might that be it
Posted by SLS on September 15, 2012, at 19:04:37
In reply to Lou's Little Shoppe-reply to Scott » SLS, posted by Lou Pilder on September 15, 2012, at 18:13:15
> > > So what you're essentially saying is that this is all due to a post (that you had catalogued, I might ad) from eight years ago?
> > It's been awhile. This might be it:
> >
> > ----------------------
> >
> > Tolerance should be given to all religions that tolerate others, so long as their dogmas contain nothing contrary to the duties of citizenship. --Jean-Jacques Rousseau, The Social Contract, 1762
> >
> > http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faith/
> >
> > ----------------------> Why might that be it
Educated guess?Might that be it?
- Scott
Posted by Lou Pilder on September 15, 2012, at 20:21:17
In reply to Re: Lou's Little Shoppe-reply to Scott » Lou Pilder, posted by SLS on September 15, 2012, at 19:04:37
> > > > So what you're essentially saying is that this is all due to a post (that you had catalogued, I might ad) from eight years ago?
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> > > It's been awhile. This might be it:
> > >
> > > ----------------------
> > >
> > > Tolerance should be given to all religions that tolerate others, so long as their dogmas contain nothing contrary to the duties of citizenship. --Jean-Jacques Rousseau, The Social Contract, 1762
> > >
> > > http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faith/
> > >
> > > ----------------------
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> > Why might that be it
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> Educated guess?
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> Might that be it?
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> - ScottScott,
What facts did you use, if any, to make the educated guess? If you did not use facts, why is the guess educated?
Lou
Posted by schleprock on September 15, 2012, at 21:27:03
In reply to Re: Lou's Little Shoppe-reply to brynb-psteightspohns » schleprock, posted by SLS on September 14, 2012, at 19:12:28
> > So what you're essentially saying is that this is all due to a post (that you had catalogued, I might ad) from eight years ago?
>
>
> It's been awhile. This might be it:
>
> ----------------------
>
> Tolerance should be given to all religions that tolerate others, so long as their dogmas contain nothing contrary to the duties of citizenship. --Jean-Jacques Rousseau, The Social Contract, 1762
>
> http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faith/
>
> ----------------------
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> - ScottSo what you're basically saying is that this is all due to a post 250 years ago???
Posted by SLS on September 15, 2012, at 22:56:36
In reply to Lou's Little Shoppe-reply to Scott-edu » SLS, posted by Lou Pilder on September 15, 2012, at 20:21:17
> What facts did you use, if any, to make the educated guess? If you did not use facts, why is the guess educated?
If my guess is wrong, you can certainly take this opportunity to correct me and edify others.
- Scott
Posted by Lou Pilder on September 20, 2012, at 19:51:41
In reply to Re: Lou's Little Shoppe-reply to brynb-psteightspohns » Lou Pilder, posted by schleprock on September 14, 2012, at 17:25:40
> So what you're essentially saying is that this is all due to a post (that you had catalogued, I might ad) from eight years ago?
schleprock,
You wrote the above.
Now there is much more to this and it is not {all} from that post, for there is much more.
If you could read the posts from me on the admin board and the outstanding requests, you could see more to this. And, you could post in the threads from your perspective and then I could reply to you there.
Lou
Posted by Lou Pilder on September 21, 2012, at 16:10:22
In reply to Scott's guess. » Lou Pilder, posted by SLS on September 15, 2012, at 22:56:36
> > What facts did you use, if any, to make the educated guess? If you did not use facts, why is the guess educated?
>
> If my guess is wrong, you can certainly take this opportunity to correct me and edify others.
>
>
> - Scott
Scott,
You did post a {part} to what is in question here. Now as to what other parts make up the entire situation could be brought out in this discussion by some other means than you listing any criteria that you used, if any, to make the guess educated. I think that if we discuss J. Rousseau and who followed him as building on what he wrote, and then how that is related to this situation here, then I think that could bring out the crux of the issue here.
You see, there is a lot redacted by someone in that faith page where you cut that statement by Rousseau. Then the page was modified from it's original to show something else wheras if what was redacted was put back, I could post here to your post.
What you can not see now is that the statement by Rosseau that you posted here about is in context to something else that has been redacted on the fiath page that you took the statement from. What was redacted had to do with what Mr Hsiung stated was how people thought here. How could he know what people thought? And the statement that was readacted had to do with Rousseau in his time in relation to the church that had a particular doctrine that I posted for dialog with Mr Hsiung that I can not find here. Then there was a statement by Rousseau concerning Christians that I objected to. What followed after that was (redacted by respondent) and to this day (redacted by respondent).
Now some people may remember that exchange between me and Mr Hsiung. But then, along came (redacted by respondent) which IMHO was just to arouse (redacted by respondent) and has been going on and on and on which IMHHO could advance hatred toward the Jews, and me as a Jew here, and subject Jews to the potential of being victims of antisemitic violence. Some of the statements also could have the potential to be determined by some people to be insults to Judaism and Islam and other faiths and are to this day allowed to stand.
Now one can go to the admin board here and read my posts that have outstanding requests to Mr Hsiung and post there from your perspective and I could reply there. Be advised that Mr Hsiung states that he does what will be good for this community as a whole and to trust him in that. I say to you to go back in the historical record and see who else said that and how what Rousseau wrote fosterd the (redacted by respondent).
Lou
Posted by Lou Pilder on September 21, 2012, at 16:34:27
In reply to Lou's Little Shoppe-Lou's reply to Scott's guess. » SLS, posted by Lou Pilder on September 21, 2012, at 16:10:22
> > > What facts did you use, if any, to make the educated guess? If you did not use facts, why is the guess educated?
> >
> > If my guess is wrong, you can certainly take this opportunity to correct me and edify others.
> >
> >
> > - Scott
> Scott,
> You did post a {part} to what is in question here. Now as to what other parts make up the entire situation could be brought out in this discussion by some other means than you listing any criteria that you used, if any, to make the guess educated. I think that if we discuss J. Rousseau and who followed him as building on what he wrote, and then how that is related to this situation here, then I think that could bring out the crux of the issue here.
> You see, there is a lot redacted by someone in that faith page where you cut that statement by Rousseau. Then the page was modified from it's original to show something else wheras if what was redacted was put back, I could post here to your post.
> What you can not see now is that the statement by Rosseau that you posted here about is in context to something else that has been redacted on the fiath page that you took the statement from. What was redacted had to do with what Mr Hsiung stated was how people thought here. How could he know what people thought? And the statement that was readacted had to do with Rousseau in his time in relation to the church that had a particular doctrine that I posted for dialog with Mr Hsiung that I can not find here. Then there was a statement by Rousseau concerning Christians that I objected to. What followed after that was (redacted by respondent) and to this day (redacted by respondent).
> Now some people may remember that exchange between me and Mr Hsiung. But then, along came (redacted by respondent) which IMHO was just to arouse (redacted by respondent) and has been going on and on and on which IMHHO could advance hatred toward the Jews, and me as a Jew here, and subject Jews to the potential of being victims of antisemitic violence. Some of the statements also could have the potential to be determined by some people to be insults to Judaism and Islam and other faiths and are to this day allowed to stand.
> Now one can go to the admin board here and read my posts that have outstanding requests to Mr Hsiung and post there from your perspective and I could reply there. Be advised that Mr Hsiung states that he does what will be good for this community as a whole and to trust him in that. I say to you to go back in the historical record and see who else said that and how what Rousseau wrote fosterd the (redacted by respondent).
> Lou
>
> Scott,
Now along comes Rousseau in the statement page of the faith board. Why Rousseau? I can not at this time tell you that, but as this discussion could develop, it could come out.
But we can look at what came out of that. Here is a post that is allowed to stand. So some could think that it is civil and supportive here by Mr Hsiung because it is unsanctioned and support takes precedence and he does not wait to sanction a statement because one match could start a forest fire.
Now let us look at the second list as #5.
That statement has the potential IMHO to not only arouse antisemitic violence, but also to arouse anti-Islamic violence and anti-other faiths violence. Now Mr Hsiung states that he does what will be good for this community as a whole. But what about other commuinities that see the statement in question? Does an insult to Judaism or Islam or other faiths have something in it that will be good for any community as a whole? If so, which community will the statement in question be good for as a whole? Where on this earth could that statement be supportive? My friends, (redacted by respondent)
Lou
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faith/20040729/msgs/378930.html
Posted by phillipa on September 21, 2012, at 19:29:38
In reply to Lou's Little Shoppe-Lou's reply to Scott's guess.B, posted by Lou Pilder on September 21, 2012, at 16:34:27
That was written in the year 2004. Doubt any of those posters who posted are still even members of the community. Phillipa
Posted by Lou Pilder on September 21, 2012, at 20:56:27
In reply to Lou's Little Shoppe-Lou's reply to Scott's guess.B, posted by Lou Pilder on September 21, 2012, at 16:34:27
> > > > What facts did you use, if any, to make the educated guess? If you did not use facts, why is the guess educated?
> > >
> > > If my guess is wrong, you can certainly take this opportunity to correct me and edify others.
> > >
> > >
> > > - Scott
> > Scott,
> > You did post a {part} to what is in question here. Now as to what other parts make up the entire situation could be brought out in this discussion by some other means than you listing any criteria that you used, if any, to make the guess educated. I think that if we discuss J. Rousseau and who followed him as building on what he wrote, and then how that is related to this situation here, then I think that could bring out the crux of the issue here.
> > You see, there is a lot redacted by someone in that faith page where you cut that statement by Rousseau. Then the page was modified from it's original to show something else wheras if what was redacted was put back, I could post here to your post.
> > What you can not see now is that the statement by Rosseau that you posted here about is in context to something else that has been redacted on the fiath page that you took the statement from. What was redacted had to do with what Mr Hsiung stated was how people thought here. How could he know what people thought? And the statement that was readacted had to do with Rousseau in his time in relation to the church that had a particular doctrine that I posted for dialog with Mr Hsiung that I can not find here. Then there was a statement by Rousseau concerning Christians that I objected to. What followed after that was (redacted by respondent) and to this day (redacted by respondent).
> > Now some people may remember that exchange between me and Mr Hsiung. But then, along came (redacted by respondent) which IMHO was just to arouse (redacted by respondent) and has been going on and on and on which IMHHO could advance hatred toward the Jews, and me as a Jew here, and subject Jews to the potential of being victims of antisemitic violence. Some of the statements also could have the potential to be determined by some people to be insults to Judaism and Islam and other faiths and are to this day allowed to stand.
> > Now one can go to the admin board here and read my posts that have outstanding requests to Mr Hsiung and post there from your perspective and I could reply there. Be advised that Mr Hsiung states that he does what will be good for this community as a whole and to trust him in that. I say to you to go back in the historical record and see who else said that and how what Rousseau wrote fosterd the (redacted by respondent).
> > Lou
> >
> > Scott,
> Now along comes Rousseau in the statement page of the faith board. Why Rousseau? I can not at this time tell you that, but as this discussion could develop, it could come out.
> But we can look at what came out of that. Here is a post that is allowed to stand. So some could think that it is civil and supportive here by Mr Hsiung because it is unsanctioned and support takes precedence and he does not wait to sanction a statement because one match could start a forest fire.
> Now let us look at the second list as #5.
> That statement has the potential IMHO to not only arouse antisemitic violence, but also to arouse anti-Islamic violence and anti-other faiths violence. Now Mr Hsiung states that he does what will be good for this community as a whole. But what about other commuinities that see the statement in question? Does an insult to Judaism or Islam or other faiths have something in it that will be good for any community as a whole? If so, which community will the statement in question be good for as a whole? Where on this earth could that statement be supportive? My friends, (redacted by respondent)
> Lou
> http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faith/20040729/msgs/378930.html
>
>
> Scott, If you wish to have discussion further, I am requesting that you read the following.
This article will give a foundation for a discussion as to {why Rousseau?} THe article gives an introduction to fascism and the development from Rousseau to those that followed his philosophy concerning fascism.To see this:
A. Pull up Google
B. Type in:
[Third world traveler, The Philosophic Roots of Modern Ideology]
The author is Ingersole and if not the first one, it could be in the first 5 that is not an advertisment for Amazon. If you post here, could you acknowledge as to if you read the article or not?
Lou
Posted by SLS on September 21, 2012, at 23:23:07
In reply to Lou's Little Shoppe-Lou's reply to Scott's guess. » SLS, posted by Lou Pilder on September 21, 2012, at 16:10:22
Hi.
There really is no criteria for my educated guess other than your past posting behaviors.
Be well.
- Scott
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