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Posted by tepi on July 16, 2011, at 22:14:41
This afternoon I went out to the downtown of the city I live in the north of Mexico . I almost forgot how terrible It feels to be surrounded by a crowd of people
Then it comes to my mind that the drugs that Im taking are not working for what I want ( Valdoxan 25 mg, Invega 1.5mg)
I want my PDoc to undertsand that.So give me something for the socialfear
I already take the best drugs I think... Nardil , all SSRI,s Benzos , APS
Can you think in something unusual? I like the neorontin trial , It was something different, do you have any other thing hidden in your mind? maybe it can work on me
Posted by Brot on July 17, 2011, at 6:17:28
In reply to Give me something for the FEAR, posted by tepi on July 16, 2011, at 22:14:41
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> This afternoon I went out to the downtown of the city I live in the north of Mexico . I almost forgot how terrible It feels to be surrounded by a crowd of people
> Then it comes to my mind that the drugs that Im taking are not working for what I want ( Valdoxan 25 mg, Invega 1.5mg)
> I want my PDoc to undertsand that.
>ehrm well what about the cymbalta your doc prescribed you? ^^
you need an anxiolytic ad like cymbalta in my opinion. you wont get remission in scial anxiety with just valdoxan and invega. these 2 things are more like an augmentation strategy with cymblata, which is thought to be you "main" drug. my opinionmy impression is from what i can read here from you is that you are quite disabled by your illness. soo, do you have anything to lose? why not try cymbalta as your doc suggests?
good luck
> So give me something for the socialfear
> I already take the best drugs I think... Nardil , all SSRI,s Benzos , APS
> Can you think in something unusual? I like the neorontin trial , It was something different, do you have any other thing hidden in your mind? maybe it can work on me
>
Posted by Phillipa on July 17, 2011, at 10:51:24
In reply to Re: Give me something for the FEAR » tepi, posted by Brot on July 17, 2011, at 6:17:28
Tepi is it possible that you are like many others and just don't like crowds? I know so many people who avoid them and they are what we would consider normal? Phillipa
Posted by tepi on July 17, 2011, at 12:55:43
In reply to Re: Give me something for the FEAR » Brot, posted by Phillipa on July 17, 2011, at 10:51:24
> Tepi is it possible that you are like many others and just don't like crowds? I know so many people who avoid them and they are what we would consider normal? Phillipa
Yes phillipa , it sounds rare but I like to hear that other people are afraid of crowds and they are still normal and they have a "normal" Life
I really dont care is that issue stays with me , I just wanna be free in front of 1 person and that its somehting I havent achieved yet , that is why Im not looking for a girl to marry her
Posted by tepi on July 17, 2011, at 13:05:06
In reply to Re: Give me something for the FEAR » tepi, posted by Brot on July 17, 2011, at 6:17:28
Hi Brot
> ehrm well what about the cymbalta your doc prescribed you? ^^
I know Im wrong but Im not taking it> you need an anxiolytic ad like cymbalta in my opinion. you wont get remission in scial anxiety with just valdoxan and invega. these 2 things are more like an augmentation strategy with cymblata, which is thought to be you "main" drug. my opinion
>Well thougth.... This is goona sound doom but I hate the sexual side effects.... I know it is better to have a life , but I dont believe in cymbalta. I remember always looking for meds that dotn affect my sexual desire eventhough I dotn have a girl to have sex with. Im so stupid I know , maybe this is an obsession for me and its affecting me a lot
> my impression is from what i can read here from you is that you are quite disabled by your illness. soo, do you have anything to lose? why not try cymbalta as your doc suggests?
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> good luck
>Yes very disable , like 90% , no friends, no girls ,just speak 4 or 5 phrases everyday. People laugh at me because of this disease
Thanks for posting me
> > So give me something for the socialfear
> > I already take the best drugs I think... Nardil , all SSRI,s Benzos , APS
> > Can you think in something unusual? I like the neorontin trial , It was something different, do you have any other thing hidden in your mind? maybe it can work on me
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Posted by Phillipa on July 17, 2011, at 21:11:15
In reply to Re: Give me something for the FEAR » Phillipa, posted by tepi on July 17, 2011, at 12:55:43
Tepi at one time you had a lovely girlfriend. Were you taking med then? Phillipa
Posted by tepi on July 17, 2011, at 23:00:06
In reply to Re: Give me something for the FEAR » tepi, posted by Phillipa on July 17, 2011, at 21:11:15
> Tepi at one time you had a lovely girlfriend. Were you taking med then? Phillipa
Yes! Do you remember de picture I sent you? she was a loverly girl , and I was taking my meds when I was with her. Nice girl , she always tried to help me, I still remember her . Very comprehensive but eventually she get tired of his sick boyfriend , she needed a normal life I guess
Posted by Phillipa on July 18, 2011, at 20:00:26
In reply to Re: Give me something for the FEAR » Phillipa, posted by tepi on July 17, 2011, at 23:00:06
Tepi yes still have the picture saved also. Lovely girl and you are so handsome!!!! So if you had her and were on meds the social anxiety must have been better? Meaning what was that combo then? Could it work again for you? Phillipa
Posted by hyperfocus on July 20, 2011, at 15:51:30
In reply to Give me something for the FEAR, posted by tepi on July 16, 2011, at 22:14:41
What about sulpiride? One possible factor for social phobia is that our brains may be stuck with fearful responses to social stimuli because of past trauma, but we're unable to destroy these responses and learn new ones even when the trauma is long past. Several studies with lab rats show that sulpiride enhances fear extinction in lab rats. I don't know how it does this and I don't know nearly enough about this stuff but it might have to do with its action on D2 and D3 dopamine receptors or maybe some neurogenerative properties. I'll make a new post about that down at the bottom. Anyway although it's classed as an AP, sulpiride acts as a stimulant and an AD at non-neuroleptic doses (50mg-200mg) because of the way it binds to dopamine receptors. It also has anxiolytic properties at doses closer to 200mg. It's very cheap and easy to get outside the U.S.
tepi do the thoughts come only when you're in public or are they there all the time? Are they like obsessive and intrusive? Do you ever feel when you're outside or even when alone like you're sort of disconnected from your body? Having anxiety for a long time leads to other stuff developing, like dissociation.
I have the same problems like you but I seem to be getting a therapeutic response at 200mg sulpiride. You could ask your doc to let you try the same meds I'm on: 300mg amitriptyline + 200mg sulpiride. You could try 50mg sulpiride for a few days and see how you feel as it has a rapid onset of action. Take care, I hope you feel better.
Posted by sigismund on July 21, 2011, at 2:24:13
In reply to Re: sulpiride » tepi, posted by hyperfocus on July 20, 2011, at 15:51:30
What's that other stuff?
The tuberculosis drug that is used to help with the fear response, in conjunction with desensitisation?
Posted by sigismund on July 21, 2011, at 14:10:00
In reply to Re: sulpiride, posted by sigismund on July 21, 2011, at 2:24:13
D cycloserine.
From Wiki...........
"D-Cycloserine (DCS) is being trialed as an adjuvant to conventional exposure-based treatments for anxiety disorders. The psychotropic responses are related to D-Cycloserine's action as a partial agonist of the neuronal NMDA receptor for glutamate and have been examined in implications with sensory-related fear extinction in the amygdala.[1]"
Years ago Firebreather on the Alternative Board said that impossibly large doses of the very hottest chillies or capsaican actually affected the amygdala. It sounded very painful.
Posted by tepi on July 25, 2011, at 23:41:18
In reply to Re: sulpiride » tepi, posted by hyperfocus on July 20, 2011, at 15:51:30
Thanks for your valuable commentIt's very cheap and easy to get outside the U.S.
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> tepi do the thoughts come only when you're in public or are they there all the time?
The tougths are ALL the time , but they get more intense when Im with people. This disease has been with me the last 15 years wit no rest> > Are they like obsessive and intrusive? Do you ever feel when you're outside or even when alone like you're sort of disconnected from your body?
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Yes I feel Im disconnected from my body all the time, like if I needed something to feel on this worls , to feel that Im alive!Having anxiety for a long time leads to other stuff developing, like dissociation.
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> I have the same problems like you but I seem to be getting a therapeutic response at 200mg sulpiride. You could ask your doc to let you try the same meds I'm on: 300mg amitriptyline + 200mg sulpiride. You could try 50mg sulpiride for a few days and see how you feel as it has a rapid onset of action. Take care, I hope you feel better.
> >How would you compare Sulpiride with Amilsupiride?
May God be with you
Tepi
Posted by floatingbridge on July 26, 2011, at 13:50:51
In reply to Re: sulpiride » hyperfocus, posted by tepi on July 25, 2011, at 23:41:18
Tepi,
What is this sulpiride? Hey, I am sorry you are having this ongoing challenge. I haven't been posting because I had a very difficult time, but I'm still here.
I usually do not openly contradict another poster, and what the heck do I know, anyways, but cymbalta did not aid me in any way.
Take care brother. I look for your posts.
Would you ever consider getting a life coach rather than a therapist? Psychiatrists and doctors can only go far. I had a dbt type coach, and she was so warm and firm and it never bothered her if I cried, was too scared to talk, or if I told her a scary inner thought, she'd just hold it for me so we both could look at it. Obviously she didn't cure me, but she was a blessing and didn't see me as a walking pile of pathologies.
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