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Posted by lifelover on January 3, 2011, at 14:31:13
Nardil has truely been a lifesaver for me. It totally got rid of sa and did a good job relieving depression too. Last summer I was forced to come off it after a bad experience. The sa and depression came back unfortunatly, but I wasnt suprised. After 6 months I convinced my doctor to put me back on nardil.
I will be starting nardil in early febuary and I cannot wait. She wants to try a lower dosage this time, and Im staying positive that things will work out for me. I have kept my faith and despretly want my life back. Nardil is truely an amazing drug that works well for so many people, including myself.
The diet really isnt as strict as they say, to be honest I didnt abide by it at all and I did fine, but everyones different so if ur starting nardil u should stick to the diet. I did experience insomnia but this went away after a month or 2.I did experience inorgasmia but again this went away after 1-2 months. I did however experience horrific weight gain. I gained 50 pounds in less then a year, and put on the notorious nardil belly.
It seems like most of the weight went to my belly lol. However this weight gain was due to me not regulating my diet and not exercising(I was eating fast food daily for a while, huge portions). When I start nardil again I will make it my duty to exercise and eat healthy.
When the nardil starts working for you, you will notice that the difference is quite drastic. I notice on nardil I focus much better, my thoughts are much clearer, and I am social, outgoing, and confident all the time.There is also the famous nardil euphoria that people speak of.To me its the perfect start for the day and makes me motivated to live life to the fullest.It feels a little like extacy but much more natural. Nardil allows me to be myself(a social ,outgoing, and confident being) and live life without fear. It allows me to build healthy, social relationships with people.It truely is a wonder drug and has helped me in so many ways. I am truely grateful to God for it.I would love to hear from other people who are perscibed or were perscibed nardil and how your experiences with the drug were. Also if anyone is curious to know more about the drug and what I have experienced feel free to ask questions. Should I call myself the Nardil general? Ace already took champ lol. Anyway much love guys its hard in the world but dont give up, there is light at the end of the tunnel always. Peace.
Posted by mantus on January 4, 2011, at 13:36:54
In reply to The Nardil appreciation thread, posted by lifelover on January 3, 2011, at 14:31:13
Hello,
I have been on Nardil since 12/4, first at 45mgs until 12/28 and then 60mgs since. When I here the benefits many people receive from Nardil, I keep thinking that it is exactly the right med for me, that is if it works. I have tried just about every ssri with know definitive, long term benefit. My problem is right now is that I'm really struggling with life. Alot of very traditional symptoms people go through with more severe levels of depression/anxiety (everything seems overwhelming, do not want to be around anyone or do anything, frequent crying, completely stuck in my head with negative thinking, etc.) It is interesting though, I lived a very fulfilling life until around the age of 21 when I swear out of nowhere I started having unexplained anxiety/depression issues at varying levels since. I feel like i am back in the common place i've been of saying, "I haven't given it enough time or enough of a dose," and I know that could be true, but it doesn't help in the mean time as i am struggling just to get through day to day. Can you describe your nardil experience in as much detail as possible? What dose was right for you? How long did it take to notice a change? When you noticed a change was it definitive and far from placebo effect? What side effects did you have? How long did you have to be on Nardil before everything seemed to come together in positive benefits being left, with a great reduction in side effects? I would really appreciate your response, as I am just struggling right now and don't feel like I am having the traditional response to Nardil that I often read about.
Thanks,
Mantus
Posted by lifelover on January 4, 2011, at 14:36:45
In reply to Re: The Nardil appreciation thread, posted by mantus on January 4, 2011, at 13:36:54
> Hello,
>
> I have been on Nardil since 12/4, first at 45mgs until 12/28 and then 60mgs since. When I here the benefits many people receive from Nardil, I keep thinking that it is exactly the right med for me, that is if it works. I have tried just about every ssri with know definitive, long term benefit. My problem is right now is that I'm really struggling with life. Alot of very traditional symptoms people go through with more severe levels of depression/anxiety (everything seems overwhelming, do not want to be around anyone or do anything, frequent crying, completely stuck in my head with negative thinking, etc.) It is interesting though, I lived a very fulfilling life until around the age of 21 when I swear out of nowhere I started having unexplained anxiety/depression issues at varying levels since. I feel like i am back in the common place i've been of saying, "I haven't given it enough time or enough of a dose," and I know that could be true, but it doesn't help in the mean time as i am struggling just to get through day to day. Can you describe your nardil experience in as much detail as possible? What dose was right for you? How long did it take to notice a change? When you noticed a change was it definitive and far from placebo effect? What side effects did you have? How long did you have to be on Nardil before everything seemed to come together in positive benefits being left, with a great reduction in side effects? I would really appreciate your response, as I am just struggling right now and don't feel like I am having the traditional response to Nardil that I often read about.
>
> Thanks,
> MantusDont worry mantus things are going to get better for u. Uve only been on it for a month. I didnt really notice anything signifigant till inbetween 3-4 months after starting. Takes a while but its worth it. The change was definitly not placibo effect, I could best describe it as heightened awareness mixed with a truely good sense of well being.If ur a higher dosage u will experience the nardil euphoria people describe. That feeling is amazing and it last for a couple of hours its definitly a great start to ur day. I went from feeling hopeless to feeling ready to take on life and its challenges.I became a social outgoing and confident being which is what I truely am. Side effect wise I delt with weight gain insomnia and sweating. The weight gain was the only one that was really a problem and the insomnia went away after a few months till I upped the dosage. See the reason I had to go off it was because I was taking 120mg which prolly was too much. But it works 100% at defeating the depression and sa. Looking back though I would have been fine at a much lower dosage and it would have been better for me. Now I am going back on it in febuary and we are augmenting the nardil with lithium.Good luck mantis and if you have any more questions feel free to ask.
Posted by benzo85 on January 4, 2011, at 20:04:24
In reply to Re: The Nardil appreciation thread » mantus, posted by lifelover on January 4, 2011, at 14:36:45
Yeah, 120mg is crazy. You'd be fine at 60-75...
I had been up to 105mg/d for 2weeks, but dropped down because the side effects were too annoying. I noticed decrease in depression, but anxiety was no different than at 90 for 9weeks.
I'm on my third trial of Nardil, and one thing I've learned is it's all about time.. Regardless being at 60 or 105, it took me about 6months exactly to feel fully normal again. Gradual climb up.
Sans my first trial, where I felt cured in the first week. It probably inspired me to persevere the other 2 times...
Posted by mantus on January 4, 2011, at 21:17:29
In reply to Re: The Nardil appreciation thread » mantus, posted by lifelover on January 4, 2011, at 14:36:45
> > Hello,
> >
> > I have been on Nardil since 12/4, first at 45mgs until 12/28 and then 60mgs since. When I here the benefits many people receive from Nardil, I keep thinking that it is exactly the right med for me, that is if it works. I have tried just about every ssri with know definitive, long term benefit. My problem is right now is that I'm really struggling with life. Alot of very traditional symptoms people go through with more severe levels of depression/anxiety (everything seems overwhelming, do not want to be around anyone or do anything, frequent crying, completely stuck in my head with negative thinking, etc.) It is interesting though, I lived a very fulfilling life until around the age of 21 when I swear out of nowhere I started having unexplained anxiety/depression issues at varying levels since. I feel like i am back in the common place i've been of saying, "I haven't given it enough time or enough of a dose," and I know that could be true, but it doesn't help in the mean time as i am struggling just to get through day to day. Can you describe your nardil experience in as much detail as possible? What dose was right for you? How long did it take to notice a change? When you noticed a change was it definitive and far from placebo effect? What side effects did you have? How long did you have to be on Nardil before everything seemed to come together in positive benefits being left, with a great reduction in side effects? I would really appreciate your response, as I am just struggling right now and don't feel like I am having the traditional response to Nardil that I often read about.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Mantus
>
> Dont worry mantus things are going to get better for u. Uve only been on it for a month. I didnt really notice anything signifigant till inbetween 3-4 months after starting. Takes a while but its worth it. The change was definitly not placibo effect, I could best describe it as heightened awareness mixed with a truely good sense of well being.If ur a higher dosage u will experience the nardil euphoria people describe. That feeling is amazing and it last for a couple of hours its definitly a great start to ur day. I went from feeling hopeless to feeling ready to take on life and its challenges.I became a social outgoing and confident being which is what I truely am. Side effect wise I delt with weight gain insomnia and sweating. The weight gain was the only one that was really a problem and the insomnia went away after a few months till I upped the dosage. See the reason I had to go off it was because I was taking 120mg which prolly was too much. But it works 100% at defeating the depression and sa. Looking back though I would have been fine at a much lower dosage and it would have been better for me. Now I am going back on it in febuary and we are augmenting the nardil with lithium.Good luck mantis and if you have any more questions feel free to ask.
>
>Thanks for the response. I have a another question in regards to you dosage process. How long were you on lower dosages before you went up to 120mg, as I know that is a rather high dose? My doctor wants me to go slowly and be on 60 mgs for a full month, which I understand, but what if I need a higher dose and I am wasting all this time? What did your doctor suggest in going up to such a high dose, and do you think that if you had raised your dosages more slowly that you might have received the same benefits?
Posted by benzo85 on January 5, 2011, at 16:15:47
In reply to The Nardil appreciation thread, posted by lifelover on January 3, 2011, at 14:31:13
Don't look at 60 for a month... or 4!.. a waste of time.. not at all!
60mg at 1month is nothing like 60 at 2,3,or more months. Feel free to go up to 75 at 2nd month .. 90 at 3rd. Expect more side effects. This med takes time.
Posted by lifelover on January 5, 2011, at 17:10:12
In reply to Re: The Nardil appreciation thread, posted by mantus on January 4, 2011, at 21:17:29
60 mg for a month is good. Your giving the mao time to build up in your system,so ur not waisting time. With my doctor it was also about a month inbetween each change in dosage.
Posted by medamorphosis on January 5, 2011, at 17:45:42
In reply to The Nardil appreciation thread, posted by lifelover on January 3, 2011, at 14:31:13
1st 3 weeks i crept from 15-45mg. At end of week 3 I went to 60mg and bang- like a light came on.
Ur explination of being like a natural XTC feeling is spot on. Avoidance became a constant search for friends without fear. Lots of things happened for the 1st time (I was 24)- 1st GF, sex, job, place of my own. I could leave a job and get another by the end of the week, not by pushing myself but by pure optimism. Family became loved ones again. I owe alot to Nardil for what it introduced me to- more than a glimpse of what life at the full is really like. Happiness probably for the 1st time ever.
After 3-4yrs i came off it. Decided it had pooped out for good despite lots of addons. But even when I stopped it I realised it was still helping as things have never quite been the same since the 1st week i stopped. Its still a future plan, and maybe a very close plan. Things are totally potty with my current meds. Going from BINGO to "whats happened?". Will probably allways need an MAOI. For my brain seems to know how to process the effects of them correctly. Unlike most other ADs. Mind you ive never tried Parnate so that will probably be next MAOI I use. Unfortunitely switching MAOIs is a big switch an usually means comming off one before starting the next, witch can be lengthy and very destroying for the nerves. Such is life.med
Posted by roscopeeco on January 7, 2011, at 16:23:11
In reply to Re: The Nardil appreciation thread, posted by mantus on January 4, 2011, at 13:36:54
> Hello,
>
> I have been on Nardil since 12/4, first at 45mgs until 12/28 and then 60mgs since. When I here the benefits many people receive from Nardil, I keep thinking that it is exactly the right med for me, that is if it works. I have tried just about every ssri with know definitive, long term benefit. My problem is right now is that I'm really struggling with life. Alot of very traditional symptoms people go through with more severe levels of depression/anxiety (everything seems overwhelming, do not want to be around anyone or do anything, frequent crying, completely stuck in my head with negative thinking, etc.) It is interesting though, I lived a very fulfilling life until around the age of 21 when I swear out of nowhere I started having unexplained anxiety/depression issues at varying levels since. I feel like i am back in the common place i've been of saying, "I haven't given it enough time or enough of a dose," and I know that could be true, but it doesn't help in the mean time as i am struggling just to get through day to day. Can you describe your nardil experience in as much detail as possible? What dose was right for you? How long did it take to notice a change? When you noticed a change was it definitive and far from placebo effect? What side effects did you have? How long did you have to be on Nardil before everything seemed to come together in positive benefits being left, with a great reduction in side effects? I would really appreciate your response, as I am just struggling right now and don't feel like I am having the traditional response to Nardil that I often read about.
>
> Thanks,
> MantusHello Mantus,
I feel your pain. I know how it is to absolutely struggle with everyday. I have been on parnate right at one month. If I look back a month ago, then I can see my progress, but I still feel the depression. I don't have the sense of well-being that some describe. I am going to give this medication a chance at the right dosage and see where that takes me. The dosage is so important with any medication. It is ok to get frustrated. We all do. Please keep posting your frustrations. It helps. If you want to babblemail me you are more than welcome.
JF
Posted by roscopeeco on January 7, 2011, at 16:34:45
In reply to The Nardil appreciation thread, posted by lifelover on January 3, 2011, at 14:31:13
Lifelover,
If you were doing so well on Nardil, why did your Dr. take you off it. I know you said because you were on a high dosage, but why couldn't you just lower your dosage. Did you feel anything before the med kicked in at two months. I am still confused about MAOIs. Usually, you hear about symptoms decreasing in intensity over time. People on MAOIs talk about all of the sudden the med "kicks in". Was this true in your case or was it gradual changes you noticed. Sorry for the questions.
To Mantus,There are platelet MAO levels that can be checked. You obviously want those levels close to zero and definitely below 20 percent. You might want to check your MAO platelet levels when you can. Say for instance your MAO levels are at 50%, well you will know that you still need to give the medication time. The test might help with the anxiety.
Posted by lifelover on January 8, 2011, at 12:10:10
In reply to Re: The Nardil appreciation thread..mantus/lifelov, posted by roscopeeco on January 7, 2011, at 16:34:45
They took me off it because I had a "manic" episode according to my mom , which I haven't ever had before. I was put in a psychiatric hospital. The doctors said the nardil was the culprit and they took me off it. That's why I had to go off. It took me a long time to convince my pdoc to put me back on it, but im just thankful shes open enough to do that. For the the first 2 months I noticed slight changes in mood and an increased ability to focus on words and tasks.But nothing drastic till after 3-4 months. Ask as many questions as u want my friend.Peace and love.
Posted by mantus on January 8, 2011, at 18:40:23
In reply to Re: The Nardil appreciation thread, mantus, posted by roscopeeco on January 7, 2011, at 16:23:11
> > Hello,
> >
> > I have been on Nardil since 12/4, first at 45mgs until 12/28 and then 60mgs since. When I here the benefits many people receive from Nardil, I keep thinking that it is exactly the right med for me, that is if it works. I have tried just about every ssri with know definitive, long term benefit. My problem is right now is that I'm really struggling with life. Alot of very traditional symptoms people go through with more severe levels of depression/anxiety (everything seems overwhelming, do not want to be around anyone or do anything, frequent crying, completely stuck in my head with negative thinking, etc.) It is interesting though, I lived a very fulfilling life until around the age of 21 when I swear out of nowhere I started having unexplained anxiety/depression issues at varying levels since. I feel like i am back in the common place i've been of saying, "I haven't given it enough time or enough of a dose," and I know that could be true, but it doesn't help in the mean time as i am struggling just to get through day to day. Can you describe your nardil experience in as much detail as possible? What dose was right for you? How long did it take to notice a change? When you noticed a change was it definitive and far from placebo effect? What side effects did you have? How long did you have to be on Nardil before everything seemed to come together in positive benefits being left, with a great reduction in side effects? I would really appreciate your response, as I am just struggling right now and don't feel like I am having the traditional response to Nardil that I often read about.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Mantus
>
> Hello Mantus,
>
> I feel your pain. I know how it is to absolutely struggle with everyday. I have been on parnate right at one month. If I look back a month ago, then I can see my progress, but I still feel the depression. I don't have the sense of well-being that some describe. I am going to give this medication a chance at the right dosage and see where that takes me. The dosage is so important with any medication. It is ok to get frustrated. We all do. Please keep posting your frustrations. It helps. If you want to babblemail me you are more than welcome.
>
> JF
>Hello roscopeeco,
You seem to going through a similar situation to me and I appreciate your input. The more I hear from people, the more they tend to say that it takes awhile and at dosages of Nardil of at least 60 and possibly higher. Although these statements do give me some hope, the depression/anxiety still seems to overwhelm any logical ideas I might have that things will get better and the day to day world is still very difficult. I have a question for you if you don't mind? Are you currently working? I often wonder that as people describe their hardships, especially while waiting/hoping for a med to work. I am work at a psychiatric hospital (haha) which can be quite stressful in itself, but I never tended to have any real problems before. Everyday is a battle just making it there and simple tasks I never had trouble with in the past just seem to be too much at times. I am right there with you in not feeling any sort of lift in mood or feeling of well-being. Although I will say I haven't been crying lately? That is one thing I have noticed over the past week or so. But the symptoms that are really hurting me such as, not wanting to me around anyone, not wanting to do anything, feeling like everything is daunting (even the smallest tasks), loss of apetite, consumed by negative thinking and general discontent with life really hasn't changed at all. I really want to stick with Nardil as long as possible because of the frequent positive results I read from people. And with my symptoms I've always just felt like I need an anti-deppressent to work, and not really anything else except maybe a benzo as needed. I have tried basically every ssri known to man with little significant results. Can you describe your symptoms and what kind of difficulties you are having right now? Have you ever tried Nardil, and why did u decide on Parnate? Do you have difficulty keeping hope that the medicine will really offer you an significant help like I do? I"m sorry my message is so long, I am just going through a difficult time and would like to know someone is going through a similar experience to me? Thanks for any input.
Mantus
Posted by roscopeeco on January 9, 2011, at 8:58:51
In reply to Re: The Nardil appreciation thread, mantus, posted by mantus on January 8, 2011, at 18:40:23
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > I have been on Nardil since 12/4, first at 45mgs until 12/28 and then 60mgs since. When I here the benefits many people receive from Nardil, I keep thinking that it is exactly the right med for me, that is if it works. I have tried just about every ssri with know definitive, long term benefit. My problem is right now is that I'm really struggling with life. Alot of very traditional symptoms people go through with more severe levels of depression/anxiety (everything seems overwhelming, do not want to be around anyone or do anything, frequent crying, completely stuck in my head with negative thinking, etc.) It is interesting though, I lived a very fulfilling life until around the age of 21 when I swear out of nowhere I started having unexplained anxiety/depression issues at varying levels since. I feel like i am back in the common place i've been of saying, "I haven't given it enough time or enough of a dose," and I know that could be true, but it doesn't help in the mean time as i am struggling just to get through day to day. Can you describe your nardil experience in as much detail as possible? What dose was right for you? How long did it take to notice a change? When you noticed a change was it definitive and far from placebo effect? What side effects did you have? How long did you have to be on Nardil before everything seemed to come together in positive benefits being left, with a great reduction in side effects? I would really appreciate your response, as I am just struggling right now and don't feel like I am having the traditional response to Nardil that I often read about.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Mantus
> >
> > Hello Mantus,
> >
> > I feel your pain. I know how it is to absolutely struggle with everyday. I have been on parnate right at one month. If I look back a month ago, then I can see my progress, but I still feel the depression. I don't have the sense of well-being that some describe. I am going to give this medication a chance at the right dosage and see where that takes me. The dosage is so important with any medication. It is ok to get frustrated. We all do. Please keep posting your frustrations. It helps. If you want to babblemail me you are more than welcome.
> >
> > JF
> >
>
> Hello roscopeeco,
>
> You seem to going through a similar situation to me and I appreciate your input. The more I hear from people, the more they tend to say that it takes awhile and at dosages of Nardil of at least 60 and possibly higher. Although these statements do give me some hope, the depression/anxiety still seems to overwhelm any logical ideas I might have that things will get better and the day to day world is still very difficult. I have a question for you if you don't mind? Are you currently working? I often wonder that as people describe their hardships, especially while waiting/hoping for a med to work. I am work at a psychiatric hospital (haha) which can be quite stressful in itself, but I never tended to have any real problems before. Everyday is a battle just making it there and simple tasks I never had trouble with in the past just seem to be too much at times. I am right there with you in not feeling any sort of lift in mood or feeling of well-being. Although I will say I haven't been crying lately? That is one thing I have noticed over the past week or so. But the symptoms that are really hurting me such as, not wanting to me around anyone, not wanting to do anything, feeling like everything is daunting (even the smallest tasks), loss of apetite, consumed by negative thinking and general discontent with life really hasn't changed at all. I really want to stick with Nardil as long as possible because of the frequent positive results I read from people. And with my symptoms I've always just felt like I need an anti-deppressent to work, and not really anything else except maybe a benzo as needed. I have tried basically every ssri known to man with little significant results. Can you describe your symptoms and what kind of difficulties you are having right now? Have you ever tried Nardil, and why did u decide on Parnate? Do you have difficulty keeping hope that the medicine will really offer you an significant help like I do? I"m sorry my message is so long, I am just going through a difficult time and would like to know someone is going through a similar experience to me? Thanks for any input.
>
> MantusI will give you a brief history of my most current major depression. It started about 3 months ago. I initially started taking celexa which sent my anxiety through the roof. After two weeks of celexa I felt like I needed to go to psych hospital. I could barely move out of bed. First night in hospital was terrible. I wanted to die. I was pacing the floors at 3am. They gave me some ativan and it was like peace all over my mind and body. That lasted for about two days and I could feel the depression and anxiety creep back up. The second day in the hospital I was put on zoloft, lamictal, and seroquel for sleep. I declined the zoloft because at this point I was scared of the initial anxiety SSRIs brought on me. I was discharged after four days in the hospital. Came back home with a RX for all the meds I was taking in the hospital plus trazadone. Things began to go bad again. This time was worse than the first and after about two weeks out of the hospital I woke up and felt like I had enough of the intense pain. I couldn't get out of bed. I couldn't eat. I had no thought about driving my car. Everything was so much work. I woke up one morning and decided to walk 4 miles and purchase a gun. I sat with the gun to my head for three hours. Decided that I would sleep on the decision. A family member found the gun in my closet which prompted the second hospital visit. This time I was gone for two weeks. While there they put me on cymbalta, zyprexa (so I would eat), ativan, and trazadone. That hospital stay was much better, but I still was very depressed. I got out of the hospital and felt a little better then my first admission to previous hospital. It had no desire to be around anyone or answer my phone. I decided that I would do my own research on drugs and figure things out. I wasn't sure I was on the right medication. I experimented with an adderall after I was out of the second hospital and noticed that all of the sudden I was talkative and had some hope. As with any amphetamine, it is short lived. I began to research the actions of amphetamines and decided I needed something to address dopamine as well. That is what got me looking into parnate. I started taking Parnate a month ago at 30mg. It wasn't till the third week until I noticed a slight improvement. The improvement was extremely slight. I noticed that I had more energy and a little more motivation, but the depression still remained. I am now a little over a month on Parnate and it is my second or third day on 50mg. I notice myself improving little by little. I usually evaluate after a weeks time. I started a one year intensive BSN degree a week ago. I thought I would never be able to do that a month ago. This doesn't mean the depression is gone. It is still there. I still don't seek to go out and do things with friends. I do however hang out with family more and enjoy that time a little bit. Before, I wouldn't have enjoyed one second. In fact, I would have preferred to stay at home. I notice myself making more plans for the future, but I still have that depression lingering. Sometimes it is worse than others. I used to look at everybody and ask myself why are they so happy. I find myself doing that less and less. Trust me when I tell you this. I used to wake up thinking today was going to be the last time I saw my family. This was a daily thing. It has gotten better. I am not back to 100%, but there have been changes. Again, the only slight change I noticed was at three weeks. It has been an extremely slow build up from there. I am hoping that once I get to 60mg or so that it will have that undeniable "kick in" effect people talk about. Who knows if the drug is even supposed to work like that. Maybe it is a slow build up over weeks. I would try to see only small increases at this time in your case. You are on a pretty low dose. I wouldn't be scared to increase your dosage if you are handling side effects well. It doesn't take a Dr. visit to increase dosages. The only thing they are going to say is....are you handling it ok at the current dose and have you noticed significant improvements. if your answers are you are handling the current dose with no real significant improvement they will raise your dose. No need to sweat. I am to the point now where I am going to bed early around nine and getting up around seven am. I think allowing yourself a normal sleep routine is really good. Don't put too much pressure on yourself to do things. That will come with time. It is baby steps. For instance, if you were never able to get out of the house before and feel like you can in a week. Go get some food from the store. Things will begin to get easier if you take it one step out of the time instead of trying to "snap out of it".
Posted by roscopeeco on January 9, 2011, at 9:18:05
In reply to Re: The Nardil appreciation thread, mantus, posted by roscopeeco on January 9, 2011, at 8:58:51
I forgot to mention this mantus. My sex drive is coming back as well. I know this might be too much information for some, but I don't have any delayed orgasms. I have also found myself smiling more and interacting with classmates at school. I will admit though that the depression is always there to varying degrees. Getting to remission has always been stepwise with me. I get better in each aspect at varying time frames. It has never happened all at once. I have never been severely depressed and woke up one day and all symptoms were gone. Depression is like sweat covering your body and little by little it begins to evaporate and turn into vapors that vanish in thin air.
It is very important for you to do something when you get the urge. For instance if in a week you get to urge to watch a movie, go watch a movie. Don't think to yourself that this urge is only a blip on the radar screen and I will be depressed after this urge passes. Those little urges are our brains getting healed. If we deny those urges then we reinforce the sickness. I sometimes get urges that only last for a couple of hours, but I try to act on them. To me they are like building blocks. The urges remind us that we once enjoyed that activity.
I can tell you this because I have those small urges now. Before I had no urges. Example. Yesterday I ate breakfast with a friend because I felt like it. I had a fairly decent time and will do that again. Another urge I had was to watch "true grit" at the movies last night. Before I would have never had the patience to sit through a movie for two hours. I sat through it and for two hours forgot I had depression. A month and a half ago you could have told me that I won the lottery and I wouldn't care. Now you tell me the same statement and I would be elated. It is small but significant things like that make you feel like you are moving in the right direction.
If you want to explain your depression to me more feel free. Comparing depression is useful. It can give people turning points or positives to look for.
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