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Posted by linkadge on March 18, 2010, at 16:42:35
I know, people will say I am addicted. Perhaps I am, but, I genuinly feel that my disorder is more manageble when I regularly drink coffee.
I feel more normal, grounded, less emotional and depressed when I drink it. I have quit for months at a time and I just generally seem to get worse.
Just my experience.
Linkadge
Posted by janejane on March 18, 2010, at 17:24:31
In reply to I'm better when I drink coffee, posted by linkadge on March 18, 2010, at 16:42:35
Why do you think this is? Due to dopamine increase? Or cortisol?
For some reason you got me thinking of Excedrin - how the caffeine in it is supposed to increase the-painkilling benefits of acetaminophen and aspirin or whatever. I wonder if there's a similar synergistic thing that goes on with ADs. Then again there are a lot of people who aren't on ADs who drink coffee regularly so it can't just be that.
I gave up my daily cup last summer and don't miss it much, but I do think of starting again just because of the apparent health benefits.
Posted by Phillipa on March 18, 2010, at 22:25:56
In reply to Re: I'm better when I drink coffee » linkadge, posted by janejane on March 18, 2010, at 17:24:31
Oh I'd love to drink coffee again last panic attack years ago attributed to that but might decrease fatigue? Phillipa
Posted by conundrum on March 18, 2010, at 23:11:53
In reply to I'm better when I drink coffee, posted by linkadge on March 18, 2010, at 16:42:35
I say keep drinking it then. Most people on ADs are addicts because they have to keep taking their meds indefinetly.
You'll enjoy this article, maybe with a cup of joe.
"Caffeine: A vitamin-like nutrient, or adaptogen."
Posted by linkadge on March 19, 2010, at 6:58:49
In reply to Re: I'm better when I drink coffee, posted by conundrum on March 18, 2010, at 23:11:53
>Caffeine synergizes with progesterone, and >increases its concentration in blood and tissues.
Interesting, because progesterone exerts anticonvulsant and neurotrophic effects.
>Caffeine supports serotonin uptake in nerves, >and inhibits blood platelet aggregation.
Like tianeptine
Cool link!
Linkadge
Posted by janejane on March 19, 2010, at 10:49:16
In reply to Re: I'm better when I drink coffee, posted by conundrum on March 18, 2010, at 23:11:53
Weird that they didn't mention dopamine. I thought it was believed to be one of the reasons it reduced Parkinson's and decreased suicide risk.
Posted by linkadge on March 19, 2010, at 12:15:12
In reply to Re: I'm better when I drink coffee » conundrum, posted by janejane on March 19, 2010, at 10:49:16
The antiparkinsons effect might be due to to the neuroprotective effects of coffee rather than the dopamine enhancing effect (?). Not entirely shure though.
Linkadge
Posted by ed_uk2010 on March 20, 2010, at 10:59:15
In reply to Re: I'm better when I drink coffee, posted by linkadge on March 19, 2010, at 12:15:12
Coffee doesn't do anything for me. I wish it did, because it sure is readily available :)
I like tea though. It also feels healthier somehow.
Posted by Bob on March 20, 2010, at 16:01:03
In reply to I'm better when I drink coffee, posted by linkadge on March 18, 2010, at 16:42:35
> I know, people will say I am addicted. Perhaps I am, but, I genuinly feel that my disorder is more manageble when I regularly drink coffee.
>
> I feel more normal, grounded, less emotional and depressed when I drink it. I have quit for months at a time and I just generally seem to get worse.
>
> Just my experience.
>
> Linkadge
>
>I have had periods in the course of my illness when coffee has helped. The most notable one I can recall was after my 21 hellish sessions of ECT. The treatments put me in a state where every day for a period of time I could drink coffee and it would buoy me up for a few hours. Over the weeks and months though, this effect waned.
Posted by SLS on March 20, 2010, at 16:22:27
In reply to Re: I'm better when I drink coffee » linkadge, posted by Bob on March 20, 2010, at 16:01:03
I use caffeinated coffee sparingly so that I don't build up a tolerance to it. I use it in "emergencies". Coffee gives me increased mental energy and brightens up my mood somewhat. Decaffeinated coffee produces no such effect.
- Scott
Posted by conundrum on March 20, 2010, at 16:56:38
In reply to Re: I'm better when I drink coffee » linkadge, posted by Bob on March 20, 2010, at 16:01:03
I prefer tea over coffee. Neither does anything for me normally. However If i steep two bags of tea at once, which is very bitter, and then drink two of these close together it makes me kind of hyper.
Posted by delna on March 21, 2010, at 9:57:16
In reply to I'm better when I drink coffee, posted by linkadge on March 18, 2010, at 16:42:35
> I know, people will say I am addicted. Perhaps I am, but, I genuinly feel that my disorder is more manageble when I regularly drink coffee.
>
> I feel more normal, grounded, less emotional and depressed when I drink it. I have quit for months at a time and I just generally seem to get worse.
>
> Just my experience.
>
> Linkadge
>
>I definitely feel less tired with coffee and that in turn helps my depression.
What I have noticed though is that drinking espresso (not instant) is more effective than my 100-200mg caffeine pills . I don't know why.
Posted by ed_uk2010 on March 21, 2010, at 14:28:14
In reply to Re: I'm better when I drink coffee, posted by delna on March 21, 2010, at 9:57:16
Coffee seems to make me more tired, but tea doesn't. Don't know why. Tea definitely tastes better though. Not sure how coffee has become so popular.
Posted by conundrum on March 21, 2010, at 15:45:19
In reply to Re: I'm better when I drink coffee, posted by ed_uk2010 on March 21, 2010, at 14:28:14
Yeh coffee tastes like something burned. I also drink tea. Caffeine pills don't do anything for me. I can take 600mg and not feel a thing.
Posted by Bob on March 21, 2010, at 16:25:42
In reply to Re: I'm better when I drink coffee, posted by ed_uk2010 on March 21, 2010, at 14:28:14
> Coffee seems to make me more tired, but tea doesn't. Don't know why. Tea definitely tastes better though. Not sure how coffee has become so popular.
My guess is that coffee packs a bigger punch, in general than tea, so people prefer it in the long run. Kinda like cigarettes. I don't know anyone that starts because they taste good, but nicotine is quite a drug.
Posted by conundrum on March 21, 2010, at 16:39:44
In reply to Re: I'm better when I drink coffee » ed_uk2010, posted by Bob on March 21, 2010, at 16:25:42
Tea contains L theanine, which calms the body and coutner acts some of the effects of caffeine. Also if you steep for longer than 4 mins it releases some bitter tasting stuff that make you tired.
Posted by ed_uk2010 on March 21, 2010, at 17:03:49
In reply to Re: I'm better when I drink coffee » Bob, posted by conundrum on March 21, 2010, at 16:39:44
>Also if you steep for longer than 4 mins it releases some bitter tasting stuff that make you tired.
Definitely. There's nothing worse than stewed tea, with the possible exception of coffee.
Personally, tea makes me feel slightly better but coffee makes me feel worse. Perhaps it's the theanine in tea which is helpful. Coffee tastes rather toxic to me, as if it wasn't intended to be consumed! I sometimes feel very tired about an hour after drinking coffee.
Posted by Phillipa on March 21, 2010, at 20:07:08
In reply to Re: I'm better when I drink tea » conundrum, posted by ed_uk2010 on March 21, 2010, at 17:03:49
The crash is it bloodsugar? PJ
Posted by ed_uk2010 on March 22, 2010, at 15:28:42
In reply to Re: I'm better when I drink tea » ed_uk2010, posted by Phillipa on March 21, 2010, at 20:07:08
> The crash is it bloodsugar? PJ
With coffee, I seem to get the crash without the boost. It's an unhealthy feeling. Tea can be mildly revitalising.
I hear that the Americans don't think much of tea. Perhaps you aren't making it correctly! It's so much better than coffee.
Posted by Phillipa on March 22, 2010, at 20:42:35
In reply to Re: I'm better when I drink tea » Phillipa, posted by ed_uk2010 on March 22, 2010, at 15:28:42
Ed when I used to use an official tea pot and leaves it was better. I used to love the smell and taste of coffee but with milk added. Love PJxx
Posted by conundrum on March 22, 2010, at 22:00:43
In reply to Re: I'm better when I drink tea » Phillipa, posted by ed_uk2010 on March 22, 2010, at 15:28:42
The tea I had in Denmark and Germany tastes different then the stuff we get here even though both are Lipton brand.
Posted by conundrum on March 22, 2010, at 22:01:15
In reply to Re: I'm better when I drink tea » ed_uk2010, posted by conundrum on March 22, 2010, at 22:00:43
Posted by ed_uk2010 on March 23, 2010, at 14:09:27
In reply to Re: I'm better when I drink tea » ed_uk2010, posted by conundrum on March 22, 2010, at 22:00:43
> The tea I had in Denmark and Germany tastes different then the stuff we get here even though both are Lipton brand.
Interesting. In what way was it different?
Posted by conundrum on March 23, 2010, at 23:02:03
In reply to Re: I'm better when I drink tea » conundrum, posted by ed_uk2010 on March 23, 2010, at 14:09:27
It tasted a bit sweeter, and lighter. Not really much bitterness.
Posted by manic666 on March 28, 2010, at 10:42:44
In reply to Re: I'm better when I drink coffee, posted by conundrum on March 21, 2010, at 15:45:19
ocourse im english i drink tea//yorkshire tea 2 teabags in a mug thats me //dark brown no sugar an a little milk.// i do drink coffee but only at this place that has beans from different places /i always try the coffee of the day an they grind you a mug//tastes like sh*t but hey im up fof anything,, //i was in consrution an if we didnt have about 6 mugs of tea a day we were useless
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