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Posted by sam K on August 25, 2009, at 11:24:45
anybody ever take them? Ive taken clonodine and atenol and they really make me feel out of it. Atenol not as much but clonodine was pretty potent and bad. I wonder what a calcium channel blocker would feel like.
Posted by Phillipa on August 25, 2009, at 12:23:42
In reply to calcium channel blockers for bipolar disorder?, posted by sam K on August 25, 2009, at 11:24:45
Sam don't know why do you want to try one? Phillipa
Posted by sam K on August 25, 2009, at 13:05:33
In reply to Re: calcium channel blockers for bipolar disorder? » sam K, posted by Phillipa on August 25, 2009, at 12:23:42
well Im pretty grandiose these days, and i think its due to some mania
Posted by SLS on August 25, 2009, at 13:35:47
In reply to Re: calcium channel blockers for bipolar disorder?, posted by sam K on August 25, 2009, at 13:05:33
Hi.
There are two L-type calcium channel blockers that have been used to treat bipolar disorder. They are verapamil and nimodipine. They do help some people, but not many.
I think there is far less chance of you having negative mental effects from CCBs than with clonidine. Clonidine is well known to be depressogenic in a great many people.
- Scott
Posted by sam K on August 26, 2009, at 12:58:33
In reply to Re: calcium channel blockers for bipolar disorder? » sam K, posted by SLS on August 25, 2009, at 13:35:47
thanks SLS. im curious about your situation. every time I search the archives it seems like you had the ideas I have now. I going to get a cortisol test, along with all the other hormones that are necessary.
I was wondering, did you ever try a "cortisol inhibitor", if so what was it like? Did you ever get a hormone test? If so what were the results?
I feel like we might have a lot of simalarites.. Im very treatment resistant and I am responding to meds outside of the psych meds.
I am a psychiatrists hardest case. I am mixed bipolar depression (caused by some other disease? cushings? addisons like diseases), along with insulin resistance/ blood sugar problems (maybe? due to my huge response to metformin).
I have such a unique situation, its hard for anyone to understand, espically on these boards.
Its so complicated sometimes I think people wont believe me.
And its hard for me to explain because Im pretty grandiose thinker so I exaggerate and feel like Im cured alot.
There are so many many factors which play into a balanced recovery for me. I dont lke ANY of the psych meds Ive been on. ANY AT ALL. NONE. maybe lamictal, but that activated a psychosis type thing in me. I do ask myself alot if I am being too picky, but in the end none of these meds are a good solution.
looking forward to your response, sam
Posted by SLS on August 26, 2009, at 13:12:14
In reply to SLS, posted by sam K on August 26, 2009, at 12:58:33
Hi.
I have been tested with the saliva test and the dexamethasone suppression test (DST). Both tests showed that my cortisol level was too high.
I once tried a drug called mifepristone. It is a cortisol receptor blocker. It didn't help at all, and I felt washed-out by the end of the trial. However, I wasn't a good candidate for treatment with mifepristone because it had been successfully tested only with psychotic depression. In fact, even with psychotic depression, there was still some residual depression despite having the psychosis disappear.
- Scott
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