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Posted by F00TBALL on September 8, 2007, at 20:00:53
It's not like the feeling you get from morphine, but it is truly a wonderful feeling. Going places, meeting people, doing things, and just being alive in general feels absolutely brilliant and my body is radiating happiness. Nardil has given life meaning and made it worth living again.
Posted by Phillipa on September 8, 2007, at 21:50:04
In reply to Nardil Euphoria., posted by F00TBALL on September 8, 2007, at 20:00:53
Wow so happy you're so happy and so glad the med is working. Another congratulations. Phillipa
Posted by 6 underground on September 9, 2007, at 14:46:03
In reply to Nardil Euphoria., posted by F00TBALL on September 8, 2007, at 20:00:53
Prozac gives me a sort of life euphoria. It makes me feel like im like im getting into the groove of life.
Posted by FredPotter on September 9, 2007, at 15:30:20
In reply to Nardil Euphoria., posted by F00TBALL on September 8, 2007, at 20:00:53
Me too. I sometimes wonder if I'm pathologically happy. I don't care though. I reckon I've earned it
Posted by JohnSky on September 10, 2007, at 14:43:08
In reply to Nardil Euphoria., posted by F00TBALL on September 8, 2007, at 20:00:53
Hello Football. Could you tell me more about your recovery and what you experienced along the way as you took the medication up through when you started to feel much better. I am considering Nardil so I am very interested. The more detail the better.
I took Nardil 25 years ago and it worked very well for me... and then along came SSRIs and my doc persuaded me to give up Nardil for Prozac...with the idea being I would feel just as well and not have the dietary constrictions... this goes back to when Prozac first came out.
Thanks
John
Posted by Lebrada on September 16, 2007, at 11:41:24
In reply to Nardil Euphoria., posted by F00TBALL on September 8, 2007, at 20:00:53
'It's not like the feeling you get from morphine, but it is truly a wonderful feeling. Going places, meeting people, doing things, and just being alive in general feels absolutely brilliant and my body is radiating happiness. Nardil has given life meaning and made it worth living again'...
I KNOW, I KNOW, I KNOW!!!
BUT
After 2-3 months it's (God damn) amazing/life saving effects seem to rapidly dissapate into close to nothing - back to square one & this happens all the time!!!
Q: How do I stop it from happening - ie. keep it to continue to work/ongoing?
Q:how does PARNATE compare (keeps working as opposed to Nardil)?
Q: Could you try alternating the PARNATE & NARDIL every so often??
Q: What can/do u augment NARDIL with?
Q: Does Modafinal/Provigil help with very poor memory and concentration skills that don't alleviate with even NARDIL?
Q: Can NARDIL be combined with any Anti-AKATHISIA medications?
Cheers - Would appreciate ANY info/help possible here.
P.S. I haven't had to follow any dietry restrictions whatsoever with NARDIL - maybe due to the new formula - which is also 'I believe' the reason why after a few months it looses its effectiveness.
PAXIL worsened AKATHISIA & AKAs a bitch!!!
NARDIL IN FULL SWING IS GOLD - NARDIL NOT WORKING IS A (CHOOSE YOUR EXPLETIVE)
Posted by Jedi on September 22, 2007, at 0:31:11
In reply to Re: Nardil Euphoria., posted by Lebrada on September 16, 2007, at 11:41:24
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> After 2-3 months it's (God damn) amazing/life saving effects seem to rapidly dissapate into close to nothing - back to square one & this happens all the time!!!Hi Lebrada,
Please don't mistake the initial euphoria from Nardil as the true antidepressant effect. I too had hypomania when first starting on the medication many years ago. I had been depressed for so long that this feeling was wonderful. But it soon went away. I wish I could recover it when I wanted, but I haven't been able to. That aside, the Nardil is the only medication that works for my treatment resistant atypical depression and social phobia. The loss of the euphoria is not poop out.
> Q: How do I stop it from happening - ie. keep it to continue to work/ongoing?As the euphoria is not the true antidepressant effect of Nardil, I don't believe you can keep it going.
> Q:how does PARNATE compare (keeps working as opposed to Nardil)?Even though they are both MAOIs, Parnate and Nardil are completely different medications. Parnate causes less weight gain but does not work as well on social anxiety. This is, I believe, because of the effect on GABA of Nardil. I had to double my clonazepam from 1mg to 2mg during my trial of Parnate. Clonazepam also affects GABA. Parnate is also more likely to cause hypertensive problems. If you were able to eat high doses of tyramine while on Nardil, don't try it on Parnate. I had to quit my Parnate trial because of a rare spontaneous hypertensive episode. I didn't eat anything or take any meds and I had a huge rise in blood pressure and a splitting headache. Back to Nardil.
> Q: Could you try alternating the PARNATE & NARDIL every so often??
I don't know how this would work.
> Q: What can/do u augment NARDIL with?I augment with clonazepam for social anxiety. Seroquel and diphenhydramine(Benadryl) for sleep. I'm still looking for an answer to the carb cravings and weight gain. Possible solutions would be Topamax(stupidmax), modafinil(Provigil), Concerta, Ritalin-SR.
> Q: Does Modafinal/Provigil help with very poor memory and concentration skills that don't alleviate with even NARDIL?Haven't tried it yet.
> Q: Can NARDIL be combined with any Anti-AKATHISIA medications?Why? Does Nardil give you akathisia? The only med that ever gave me akathisia was abilify, an atypical antipsychotic.
> P.S. I haven't had to follow any dietry restrictions whatsoever with NARDIL - maybe due to the new formula - which is also 'I believe' the reason why after a few months it looses its effectiveness.Be very careful with this. If you eat a large amount of aged cheese, with loads of tyramine, you may be making a trip to the ER. I believe that everyone on a MAOI should have a home blood pressure monitor. I have an inexpensive one made by Omron. If I ever get a headache, I always measure my BP. In ten years on Nardil I have had two trips to the ER. One was a tyramine reaction. The other was when a pharmacist in Canada gave me some codeine cough syrup. I didn't have my reading glasses and could not read the fine print; "contains pseudoephedrine". The pharmacist assured me it would be fine with Nardil. But in Canada, they are used to the reversible MAOIs like Moclobemide. I know the codeine by itself is fine, but pseudoephedrine is like asking for a trip to the ER.
Be careful,
Jedi
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