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Posted by cactus on July 31, 2007, at 23:55:33
In reply to marijuana gives me panic attacks, posted by dondon on July 31, 2007, at 22:02:06
> When i smoke marijuana it gives me panic attacks and it makes my depression worse. Is there anything i can take? a shot of whiskey would help?
"marijuana gives me panic attacks", so don't smoke it. I will only get worse everytime you do. It gives loads of people panic attacks and people with mental disorders shouldn't go near it. I had to learn the hard way too, like someone said in one of the above posts, if I even get a whiff of the stuff these days, it gives me extreme anxiety and I have to leave where I am. Good luck and try to stay away from it.
Posted by Bonnie_CA on August 1, 2007, at 1:14:39
In reply to marijuana gives me panic attacks, posted by dondon on July 31, 2007, at 22:02:06
I only get panic attacks from it if I smoke too much. I usually don't, because smoking a little relaxes me and prevents me from having the general anxiety I usually have. It won't bring me back from a panic attack, but if I'm relaxed, I won't get one.
-Bonnie
Posted by linkadge on August 1, 2007, at 8:39:44
In reply to Re: marijuana gives me panic attacks » dondon, posted by Bonnie_CA on August 1, 2007, at 1:14:39
I personally don't get panic attacks. It tends to help my anxiety. However, most of the stuff I get is locally grown with a purported high cannibidol to THC ratio. If you're getting so called "street" marajuanna. It is grown to get you hooked with a high THC content. More paranoia, and possably more panic attacks.
Unfortunately marajuanna can vary greatly from source to source. Some people might have a very bad experience based on something that was altered or laced (with PCP or something). Not good!
Simple answer is that if it gives you panic attacks don't smoke it.
Linkadge
Posted by Bonnie_CA on August 1, 2007, at 9:22:24
In reply to Re: marijuana gives me panic attacks, posted by linkadge on August 1, 2007, at 8:39:44
> I personally don't get panic attacks. It tends to help my anxiety. However, most of the stuff I get is locally grown with a purported high cannibidol to THC ratio. If you're getting so called "street" marajuanna. It is grown to get you hooked with a high THC content. More paranoia, and possably more panic attacks.
>
> Unfortunately marajuanna can vary greatly from source to source. Some people might have a very bad experience based on something that was altered or laced (with PCP or something). Not good!
>I should have medical MJ, but at least my husband does, and we get ours from a "store". We at least know what kind we're getting and we know it hasn't been tampered with. I had some stuff from the street that was dipped in formaldehyde. I knew because I got a raging headache and body aches. It's happened twice actually. I don't think I've ever had any laced with PCP, but PCP apparently doesn't last through burning (from what I understand). It's usually only a problem if you eat it, and I generally don't eat it. I do not know if I've ever had it laced with coke. I'd imagine I might have gotten a panic attack from that.
Legally (at least by the state) we could grow a few plants, but we don't really have anywhere to grow them where people wouldn't see them. That's one way to be absolutely sure it's pure. Something I've noticed is that I'm more likely to feel anxious smoking a more sativa blend as opposed to a more indica blend. Right now I have some almost straight indica, and it relaxes me a lot. Zero anxiety on it. If it lasted longer and wasn't so socially unacceptable, I'd just use that and no xanax. Oh well. Maybe sometime in my lifetime...
-Bonnie
Posted by nickguy on August 1, 2007, at 11:09:18
In reply to Re: marijuana gives me panic attacks » linkadge, posted by Bonnie_CA on August 1, 2007, at 9:22:24
I know people with mild anxiety can certainly relax with marijuana. If your on this board, whatever you suffer from is probably more than mild anxiety. And I obviously don't even know you or your situation, but if you suffer from any kind of clinical mental illness (i.e, Generalized anxiety, like you said) you should DEFINETELY just stay away from the stuff. I feel like it definetely exacerberated an anxiety/depression disorder I initially suffered from. Obviously, it's your choice, and it's possible that all this is not true for you. I just have such a strong feeling about the dangerous mix of pot and ANY kind of mental suffering.
Posted by linkadge on August 1, 2007, at 12:06:59
In reply to Re: marijuana gives me panic attacks, posted by nickguy on August 1, 2007, at 11:09:18
Thats the catch 22.
Opponents say marajuanna should be outlawed because it causes so many detrimental side effects.
I tend to think however, that it causes so many detrimental side effects because it is outlawed.
Linkadge
Posted by Bonnie_CA on August 1, 2007, at 12:11:59
In reply to Re: marijuana gives me panic attacks, posted by linkadge on August 1, 2007, at 12:06:59
> I tend to think however, that it causes so many detrimental side effects because it is outlawed.
>
I concur. It has a lower side effect profile than many prescription drugs, but you wouldn't know that by the way the picture is painted.-Bonnie
Posted by Larry Hoover on August 1, 2007, at 12:19:41
In reply to Re: marijuana gives me panic attacks, posted by linkadge on August 1, 2007, at 12:06:59
> Thats the catch 22.
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> Opponents say marajuanna should be outlawed because it causes so many detrimental side effects.
>
> I tend to think however, that it causes so many detrimental side effects because it is outlawed.
>
> LinkadgeI think the delivery system has to be taken into consideration, also. Oral mj is very different than smoked. I have access to medical mj, and this one product, when smoked, made me hallucinate, break out in a cold sweat, and become paranoid. Orally, I just peace out.
Lar
Posted by linkadge on August 1, 2007, at 14:07:55
In reply to Re: marijuana gives me panic attacks » linkadge, posted by Larry Hoover on August 1, 2007, at 12:19:41
People's milage may vary. I had a psychotic reaction to ritalin. I don't think it needs to be bannded based on that though.
I think many people are going to smoke it anyway, so I think they should at least get the benifit of getting it from a more consistant source.
Linkadge
Posted by nickguy on August 1, 2007, at 15:36:29
In reply to Re: marijuana gives me panic attacks » Larry Hoover, posted by linkadge on August 1, 2007, at 14:07:55
I don't think it should be banned at all. Nor do I disagree that if it was legal, it might be safer. All I'm saying is- any history or present mental illness, stay away from the stuff.
Posted by Bonnie_CA on August 1, 2007, at 16:11:32
In reply to Re: marijuana gives me panic attacks » Larry Hoover, posted by linkadge on August 1, 2007, at 14:07:55
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> I think many people are going to smoke it anyway, so I think they should at least get the benifit of getting it from a more consistant source.
>Our local supermarket generally doesn't buy produce from local farmers without it passing through some hands first. By the time it reaches that market shelf, it's been inspected several times, and the substandard stuff did not reach the shelf. This is all done in the name of safety. If marijuana was legal and there were regulations on it like growing produce or making a prescription, it would be a safer drug to use.
-Bonnie
Posted by linkadge on August 1, 2007, at 16:30:42
In reply to Re: marijuana gives me panic attacks, posted by nickguy on August 1, 2007, at 15:36:29
>All I'm saying is- any history or present mental >illness, stay away from the stuff.
As a general rule, I suppose this is a good one.
There are people with mental illnesses who do benifit from some sort of marajuanna usage.
I have found little else that tackles so many issues at once, ie sleep, anxeity, anhedonia, loss of appetite, increased pain, GI disturbance, etc.
There have also been some bipolars who pass through this board on medicinal trials of marajuanna for bipolar.
Linkadge
Posted by linkadge on August 1, 2007, at 16:34:19
In reply to Re: marijuana gives me panic attacks, posted by Bonnie_CA on August 1, 2007, at 16:11:32
If there were more liberal views of marajuanna usage, then perhaps researchers would be more inclined to push the wheels on marajuanna constituent research.
Cannabidol, for instance, appears to be an effective antipsychotic and anxoltyic, with no apparent effects on locomotor activity or movement disturbance, it also appears to have a favorable impact on cognition.
It is unethical to let this compound sit on a shelf for the next 50 years, which is what it will do.
Linkadge
Posted by Larry Hoover on August 1, 2007, at 17:58:24
In reply to Re: marijuana gives me panic attacks » Bonnie_CA, posted by linkadge on August 1, 2007, at 16:34:19
> If there were more liberal views of marajuanna usage, then perhaps researchers would be more inclined to push the wheels on marajuanna constituent research.
Well, there is a company on the Toronto Venture stock exchange just about to begin Phase 1 studies on a cannabis product....Cannasat.
http://www.cannasat.com/about/
There is another company, but I can't think of the name of it.....funded by the owner of Global News, if I recall correctly.
Start-ups, for sure, but they might get the drop on big pharma.
Lar
Posted by obsidian on August 1, 2007, at 21:34:45
In reply to marijuana gives me panic attacks, posted by dondon on July 31, 2007, at 22:02:06
yeah...me too if I smoke A LOT
Posted by Bonnie_CA on August 1, 2007, at 23:00:38
In reply to Re: marijuana gives me panic attacks » Bonnie_CA, posted by linkadge on August 1, 2007, at 16:34:19
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> It is unethical to let this compound sit on a shelf for the next 50 years, which is what it will do.
>Well, here in California, we'll just eventually break off and become our own country, and it will be legal here. Ok, yes, I'm kidding. Did you see the documentary on the History Channel about the criminalization of marjuana? (Are you a nerd like me?) According to that, it was made unattainable because it was linked to Mexicans. And opium was outlawed because it was linked to Chinese. It may be true. America was once even more racist than it is now.
-Bonnie
Posted by Sigismund on August 2, 2007, at 4:08:57
In reply to Re: marijuana gives me panic attacks » linkadge, posted by Bonnie_CA on August 1, 2007, at 23:00:38
>According to that, it was made unattainable because it was linked to Mexicans. And opium was outlawed because it was linked to Chinese. It may be true. America was once even more racist than it is now.
Same for Australia, though we managed not to worry about the Mexicans.
Posted by revaaron on August 2, 2007, at 14:57:09
In reply to marijuana gives me panic attacks, posted by dondon on July 31, 2007, at 22:02:06
I generally agree with what a lot of other folks are saying- if it gives you panic attacks, don't take it.
But that said... try better weed.
Cheap schwag gave me lots of anxiety and paranoia, but better weed doesn't. While I don't have the resources to distinguish between them, many report similar differences between Indica and Sativa subspecies of weed, with the effects of the two subspecies between quite different.
Schwag = crappier weed; often full of stems, seeds, and leaf. Looks more like oregano than better weed (see photo below). Often smells like weed, but is often dry, crunchy, and not sticky. Usually ompressed into bricks for shipment.
Better weed (nugs, kb, etc) is an actual flower, cut from the plant and bought as is. E.g.:
Posted by FredPotter on August 2, 2007, at 15:47:47
In reply to Re: marijuana gives me panic attacks » Bonnie_CA, posted by Sigismund on August 2, 2007, at 4:08:57
And in Oz they made a terrible fuss about the influx of kava. What a joke. Such a mild and benign drug compared to alcohol, but white Europeans introduced alcohol to the aborigines which isn't in their culture, and in the main they can't handle it. Same in Fiji, Tonga etc, where kava comes from
Posted by FredPotter on August 2, 2007, at 15:50:54
In reply to Re: marijuana gives me panic attacks, posted by revaaron on August 2, 2007, at 14:57:09
In Wales years ago I used to smoke a hashish resin called Lebanese Gold. Very relaxing. I think it's grass that causes me problems
Posted by Bonnie_CA on August 3, 2007, at 4:05:55
In reply to Re: marijuana gives me panic attacks » revaaron, posted by FredPotter on August 2, 2007, at 15:50:54
> In Wales years ago I used to smoke a hashish resin called Lebanese Gold. Very relaxing. I think it's grass that causes me problems
I'm sure the process of making hashish eliminates or changes whatever it is that made you have problems.
-Bonnie
Posted by BGB on August 3, 2007, at 7:14:40
In reply to Re: marijuana gives me panic attacks » dondon, posted by FredPotter on July 31, 2007, at 22:50:52
> Some people have had one toke and spent the rest of their lives, every moment of it, in a depersonalised state. >
Really, with just one toke??? I am not promoting the usage of marijuana, but I just have to ask where you heard that? Can you site any sources? I have never, ever in my life heard about this phenomenon.
Posted by linkadge on August 3, 2007, at 9:40:22
In reply to Re: marijuana gives me panic attacks » FredPotter, posted by BGB on August 3, 2007, at 7:14:40
> Some people have had one toke and spent the rest of their lives, every moment of it, in a depersonalised state. >
I too would see that as a pretty extreme reaction. I don't know what kind of statistics there are on that type of reaction.
I would also like to perform a chemical analysis on the batch of marajuanna which prompted such a reaction.
Linkadge
Posted by revaaron on August 3, 2007, at 16:33:19
In reply to Re: marijuana gives me panic attacks » revaaron, posted by FredPotter on August 2, 2007, at 15:50:54
Well, hash is usually made using the Indica subspecies of Cannabis, which is more of a body high, more sedate, less brainy or psychedelic. Which often translates into less paranoia and anxiety.
Hash, from any plant, contains different levels of psychoactives than would the buds or the whole plant prepared for consumption.
Posted by mike lynch on August 3, 2007, at 23:38:02
In reply to marijuana gives me panic attacks, posted by dondon on July 31, 2007, at 22:02:06
It's pretty weird that a drug I've been lectured to stay away from all throughout my school years, has been the most tolerable and positive for me , while most of the ones that were given to me by licensed professionals were the ones that actually screwed me up..
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