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Posted by pearlcat on April 2, 2007, at 9:01:23
I have been on this lithium 300 mg bid and 200 mg lamictal a day. Started 6 days ago. Still have major mood swings!! P@!SEd off at everybody. I have been cussing like a sailor. And I am constantly crying. I was watching That new planet earth series and cried about the whole polar bear thing! I mean I was sobbing. I am not suicidal but I cant take much more of this. I do also get way more severe when it is coming close to that time of the month. I think I have that PMDD. I have been eating a TON of food and everytime I take the Lithium with or without food I get nausea. Can Somebody give me some answers??!!!!
Pearlcat
Posted by Phillipa on April 2, 2007, at 10:41:16
In reply to HELP When is this lithium to work??!!, posted by pearlcat on April 2, 2007, at 9:01:23
I'm sorry but it probably takes longer than six days to work. Having same problem with different med. Love Phillipa ps I'm menopausal though
Posted by ronaldo on April 2, 2007, at 10:42:45
In reply to HELP When is this lithium to work??!!, posted by pearlcat on April 2, 2007, at 9:01:23
Hello pearlcat
Nice name by the way. Sorry you are having such a rough time. I can hardly remember what it was like when I first started Lithium. That was 30 years ago LOL. Are your blood lithium levels being monitored? That is quite NB when starting.
http://www.mdf.contactbox.co.uk/members/lithium_therapy.html
Blood Tests
Once you have begun treatment, it will also be necessary for you to have regular blood tests (sometimes called 'a lithium level', a 'serum lithium level' or a 'plasma lithium level'). This test is important because it enables the doctor to monitor the amount of Lithium in the bloodstream, and therefore, to ensure that your dosage is both effective and safe. Blood tests are needed more often in the early stages of treatment or when your dosage is adjusted. In these circumstances, blood tests may be needed at least once a week. Once serum levels have stabilised, they will be needed only once a month and even less frequently later. Your doctor may, however, request a blood level check if there are signs that the manic depression disorder is returning (a sign that the Lithium level may be too low) or if there is an increase in side effects (a sign that the Lithium level may be too high).
This is a guide to what your blood levels should be:
http://www.nmhct.nhs.uk/pharmacy/mood1.htm
*Below 0.4mmol/L - generally accepted as below the effective level, although some people still seem to do well
*0.4-0.6mmol/L - low side effects but some evidence of slightly higher rates of relapse
*0.6-1.0mmol/L - the usual effective range, although side effects will increase with increased level
*1.0-1.2mmol/L - sometimes used with people for whom mania or hypomania is more of a problem
*1.2 and above - generally accepted to be higher than needed, with increased risk of side effects
I hope this info helps
I never had a problem with nausea. Actually I was lucky - I never had any problems with Lithium at all. Maybe a slight hand tremor and a bit of diarrhoea but that's all as far as I know.
Are you sure it is not the Lamictal playing up?
Your mood does seem unstable which might suggest that you need more than 600mg. I am a 54 year old, 180 lbs male and I take 900mg in one dose at night of a controlled release formula called Priadel. Works for me. My blood level is slap in the middle of the therapeutic range at 0.8mMol/liter.
Check with your pdoc about the serum lithium level. Its important. You should be due a blood test shortly, within the next few days.
Good luck. I hope the Lithium works for you.
ronaldo
> I have been on this lithium 300 mg bid and 200 mg lamictal a day. Started 6 days ago. Still have major mood swings!! P@!SEd off at everybody. I have been cussing like a sailor. And I am constantly crying. I was watching That new planet earth series and cried about the whole polar bear thing! I mean I was sobbing. I am not suicidal but I cant take much more of this. I do also get way more severe when it is coming close to that time of the month. I think I have that PMDD. I have been eating a TON of food and everytime I take the Lithium with or without food I get nausea. Can Somebody give me some answers??!!!!
>
> Pearlcat
Posted by ronaldo on April 2, 2007, at 10:52:28
In reply to Re: HELP When is this lithium to work??!! » pearlcat, posted by ronaldo on April 2, 2007, at 10:42:45
Sorry pearlcat, forgot to answer your main question
How long does Lithium take to work?
Lithium does not always work quickly. It can take anything from a few days to several weeks for any noticeable improvement to take place. Although some people feel better as soon as they begin Lithium, most improve more gradually
http://www.mdf.contactbox.co.uk/members/lithium_therapy.html
Posted by TheMeanReds on April 2, 2007, at 11:28:23
In reply to HELP When is this lithium to work??!!, posted by pearlcat on April 2, 2007, at 9:01:23
Pearlcat, I cry when I watch that too. The vampire squids dont make me cry. But the cute furry animals who cant get food or shelter is depressing.
I watched Babel this weekend. I Cried because of all of the whirlwind of prejudices/racism around the world.
But right now I'm 100X stressed out than normal. That triggered eating chips and chocolate all day. PMS makes me do this just as stress does.
I dont have the answers but, are you stressed out because of the Lithium not kicking in? Or is stress situational?
Posted by pearlcat on April 2, 2007, at 18:37:29
In reply to Re: HELP When is this lithium to work??!! » pearlcat, posted by ronaldo on April 2, 2007, at 10:42:45
> Hello pearlcat
>
> Nice name by the way. Sorry you are having such a rough time. I can hardly remember what it was like when I first started Lithium. That was 30 years ago LOL. Are your blood lithium levels being monitored? That is quite NB when starting.
>
> http://www.mdf.contactbox.co.uk/members/lithium_therapy.html
>
> Blood Tests
>
> Once you have begun treatment, it will also be necessary for you to have regular blood tests (sometimes called 'a lithium level', a 'serum lithium level' or a 'plasma lithium level'). This test is important because it enables the doctor to monitor the amount of Lithium in the bloodstream, and therefore, to ensure that your dosage is both effective and safe. Blood tests are needed more often in the early stages of treatment or when your dosage is adjusted. In these circumstances, blood tests may be needed at least once a week. Once serum levels have stabilised, they will be needed only once a month and even less frequently later. Your doctor may, however, request a blood level check if there are signs that the manic depression disorder is returning (a sign that the Lithium level may be too low) or if there is an increase in side effects (a sign that the Lithium level may be too high).
>
> This is a guide to what your blood levels should be:
>
> http://www.nmhct.nhs.uk/pharmacy/mood1.htm
>
> *Below 0.4mmol/L - generally accepted as below the effective level, although some people still seem to do well
>
> *0.4-0.6mmol/L - low side effects but some evidence of slightly higher rates of relapse
>
> *0.6-1.0mmol/L - the usual effective range, although side effects will increase with increased level
>
> *1.0-1.2mmol/L - sometimes used with people for whom mania or hypomania is more of a problem
>
> *1.2 and above - generally accepted to be higher than needed, with increased risk of side effects
>
> I hope this info helps
>
> I never had a problem with nausea. Actually I was lucky - I never had any problems with Lithium at all. Maybe a slight hand tremor and a bit of diarrhoea but that's all as far as I know.
>
> Are you sure it is not the Lamictal playing up?
>
> Your mood does seem unstable which might suggest that you need more than 600mg. I am a 54 year old, 180 lbs male and I take 900mg in one dose at night of a controlled release formula called Priadel. Works for me. My blood level is slap in the middle of the therapeutic range at 0.8mMol/liter.
>
> Check with your pdoc about the serum lithium level. Its important. You should be due a blood test shortly, within the next few days.
>
> Good luck. I hope the Lithium works for you.
>
> ronaldo
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> > I have been on this lithium 300 mg bid and 200 mg lamictal a day. Started 6 days ago. Still have major mood swings!! P@!SEd off at everybody. I have been cussing like a sailor. And I am constantly crying. I was watching That new planet earth series and cried about the whole polar bear thing! I mean I was sobbing. I am not suicidal but I cant take much more of this. I do also get way more severe when it is coming close to that time of the month. I think I have that PMDD. I have been eating a TON of food and everytime I take the Lithium with or without food I get nausea. Can Somebody give me some answers??!!!!
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> > Pearlcat
>
>THANK YOU FOR YOUR FEEDBACK!! The pdoc never did call me back and he has never said anything about blood tests yet. that concerns me a little. Hopefully I can get him.
pearlcat
Posted by pearlcat on April 2, 2007, at 21:56:32
In reply to Re: HELP When is this lithium to work??!! » pearlcat, posted by TheMeanReds on April 2, 2007, at 11:28:23
> Pearlcat, I cry when I watch that too. The vampire squids dont make me cry. But the cute furry animals who cant get food or shelter is depressing.
>
> I watched Babel this weekend. I Cried because of all of the whirlwind of prejudices/racism around the world.
>
> But right now I'm 100X stressed out than normal. That triggered eating chips and chocolate all day. PMS makes me do this just as stress does.
>
> I dont have the answers but, are you stressed out because of the Lithium not kicking in? Or is stress situational?I think it is a little of everything. Pms is definately NOT helping. I was a little better today but still cant get rid of the nausea. You ever had that?
pearlcat
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