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Posted by greenline on January 28, 2007, at 10:09:02
I recently went to a new psychiatrist to get off the drugs I currently take for anxiety. I have been taking 6 mg. of Ativan and Ambien CR to sleep. I want to get off these drugs because they make me feel sluggish and I've gained about 30lbs in the past year. The doctor asked me how much alcohol I drank and I told him I drank socially and a bit more when I was upset. I in no way led him to believe I had any kind of a drinking problem in any way. To make a long story short he gave me a prescription for Campral, told me it was basically a food additive which would help my brain recover from the benzo's I have been taking. I filled the prescription, looked it up online and was shocked to see that it was for alcholism. I am in no way an alcholic! I have looked all over the internet and I can't find any use for this drug other than to help alcoholics not drink. Why would he give this to me and make up the stuff about "food additive". I am really quite angry right now. I mean if I had a drinking problem I would admit it. To me this guy is basically saying that I lied to him and I do have a drinking problem and I need this drug. Should I find a new doctor, call this one or what? Thanks for anyone who can help me's help. I have posted this on two other boards and no one seems to know.
Posted by Larry Hoover on January 28, 2007, at 10:41:00
In reply to Is My New Doctor Ethical?, posted by greenline on January 28, 2007, at 10:09:02
> I recently went to a new psychiatrist to get off the drugs I currently take for anxiety. I have been taking 6 mg. of Ativan and Ambien CR to sleep. I want to get off these drugs because they make me feel sluggish and I've gained about 30lbs in the past year. The doctor asked me how much alcohol I drank and I told him I drank socially and a bit more when I was upset. I in no way led him to believe I had any kind of a drinking problem in any way. To make a long story short he gave me a prescription for Campral, told me it was basically a food additive which would help my brain recover from the benzo's I have been taking. I filled the prescription, looked it up online and was shocked to see that it was for alcholism. I am in no way an alcholic! I have looked all over the internet and I can't find any use for this drug other than to help alcoholics not drink. Why would he give this to me and make up the stuff about "food additive". I am really quite angry right now. I mean if I had a drinking problem I would admit it. To me this guy is basically saying that I lied to him and I do have a drinking problem and I need this drug. Should I find a new doctor, call this one or what? Thanks for anyone who can help me's help. I have posted this on two other boards and no one seems to know.
I hope I don't sound like I'm covering your doctor's *ss, because he failed to communicate the rationale for his prescribing choice, but I can hypothesize what he was trying to accomplish.
Acomprosate (Campral) is acetyl-homotaurine. The way I look at this drug is a way to patent a non-patentable food additive, taurine, and thus to profit enourmously from a prescription monopoly. Taurine is what makes Red Bull and its high-dose caffeine tolerable. It has an effect somewhat like GABA, the target of those benzos you take. Moreover, withdrawal from benzos has been associated with an increased appetite for alcohol consumption. The "I drank ...a bit more when I'm upset" concept might have led him to try and help you to not lean than way to manage the inevitable anxiety rebound from the benzo withdrawals. I hope you have sufficient meds to do a dosage taper over a few weeks time.
Lar
Posted by kelv on January 28, 2007, at 11:24:30
In reply to Re: Is My New Doctor Ethical? » greenline, posted by Larry Hoover on January 28, 2007, at 10:41:00
Taurine-Alcohol
Hi,
I have an alcohol problem, in that i maintaince drink, but never really get drunk.
I'm also scripted Xanax but that just helps smaller amounts of Vodka go longer.
Whats the Taurine thing with alcohol?
I'm scripted 3mgs Xanax daily, but take as needed. When i MUST sleep, i'll take 3-4mgs Xanax with a few shots Vodka to sleep.
How can Taurine help?
Thank you
Posted by Phillipa on January 28, 2007, at 11:36:13
In reply to Re: Larry Hoover? » Larry Hoover, posted by kelv on January 28, 2007, at 11:24:30
Combining benzos and alchohol is not a good thing. It can depress breathing. I used to drink beer with .5 xanax. How taurine is related to campral I have no idea will wait for lar on that. Love Phillipa
Posted by Larry Hoover on January 28, 2007, at 12:05:01
In reply to Re: Larry Hoover? » Larry Hoover, posted by kelv on January 28, 2007, at 11:24:30
> Taurine-Alcohol
>
> Hi,
>
> I have an alcohol problem, in that i maintaince drink, but never really get drunk.
>
> I'm also scripted Xanax but that just helps smaller amounts of Vodka go longer.
>
> Whats the Taurine thing with alcohol?
>
> I'm scripted 3mgs Xanax daily, but take as needed. When i MUST sleep, i'll take 3-4mgs Xanax with a few shots Vodka to sleep.
>
> How can Taurine help?
>
> Thank youIt would be easier for me to demonstrate the physiological effects of Campral/acamprosate, given the funding that flows towards patented medications. Natural substances just don't get the same respect/research funding.
Ethanol and taurine do quite a dance, in a drinker's brain. Drinking causes acute release of taurine into neuronal synapses, causing stimulation of the GABA(A) receptor (same as benzos). After drinking has ended, there is a rebound in glutaminergic activity, which increases the demand for taurine further (taurine antagonizes glutamate).
Ethanol also activates glycine-dependent receptors in the reward pathway. Taurine is a natural ligand for those same receptors. It's possible, therefore, that alcohol and taurine synergistically reward ethanol consumption, or that chronic drinking maintains the reward in taurine deficiency. In any case, drinking clearly causes depletion of neuronal taurine.
Taurine also modulates beta-endorphin release, controls brain electrolytes, and has a substantial antioxidant effect throughout the brain.
Acamprosate doesn't do anything taurine doesn't do, as far as I can tell. The only detail that I'm unclear on is dose. I'm thinking one gram, twice a day, is probably in the ballpark, though.
Lar
For the geeks:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?db=pubmed&cmd=Retrieve&dopt=AbstractPlus&list_uids=16820013
Eur J Neurosci. 2006 Jun;23(12):3225-9.
Taurine elevates dopamine levels in the rat nucleus accumbens; antagonism by strychnine.
Ericson M, Molander A, Stomberg R, Soderpalm B.
Institute of Neuroscience and Physiology, Section of Psychiatry and Neurochemistry, The Sahlgrenska Academy at Goteborg University, Bla Straket 15, 413 45, Goteborg, Sweden. mia.ericson@neuro.gu.seThe mesolimbic dopamine (DA) system, projecting from the ventral tegmental area (VTA) to the nucleus accumbens (nAcc), is involved in reward-related behaviours and addictive processes, such as alcoholism and drug addiction. It was recently suggested that strychnine-sensitive glycine receptors (GlyR) in the nAcc regulate both basal and ethanol-induced mesolimbic DA activity via a neuronal loop involving endogenous activation of nicotinic acetylcholine receptors (nAChR) in the VTA. However, as the nAcc appears to contain few glycine-immunoreactive cell bodies or fibres, the question as to what may be the endogenous ligand for GlyRs in this brain region remains open. Here we have investigated whether the amino acid taurine could serve this purpose using in vivo microdialysis in awake, freely moving male Wistar rats. Local perfusion of taurine (1, 10 or 100 mm in the perfusate) increased DA levels in the nAcc. The taurine (10 mm)-induced DA increase was, similarly to that previously observed after ethanol, completely blocked by (i) perfusion of the competitive GlyR antagonist strychnine in the nAcc, (ii) perfusion of the nAChR antagonist mecamylamine (100 microm) in the VTA, and (iii) systemic administration of the acetylcholine-depleting drug vesamicol (0.4 mg/kg, i.p). The present results suggest that taurine may be an endogenous ligand for GlyRs in the nAcc and that the taurine-induced elevation of DA levels in this area, similarly to that observed after local ethanol, is mediated via a neuronal loop involving endogenous activation of nAChRs in the VTA.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?db=pubmed&cmd=Retrieve&dopt=AbstractPlus&list_uids=16227640
Pharmacol Rep. 2005 Sep-Oct;57(5):578-87.
Taurine prevents ethanol-induced alterations in lipids and ATPases in rat tissues.
Pushpakiran G, Mahalakshmi K, Viswanathan P, Anuradha CV.
Department of Biochemistry, Faculty of Science, Annamalai University, Annamalai Nagar - 608 002, Tamil Nadu, India.The study investigates the cytoprotective effect of taurine on ethanol-induced alterations in lipids and enzymes involved in ion-transport in rat tissues. Male albino rats were divided into 4 groups (n = 8) and maintained for 28 days as follows: control group, ethanol (6 g/kg/day) group, ethanol plus taurine (10 g/kg diet/day) group and control plus taurine group. Ethanol administration caused significant increases in the lipids in plasma and tissues, such as liver, kidney and brain, together with reductions in the activities of ATPases in tissues as compared to control animals. Histological studies revealed lipid accumulation and inflammatory cell infiltrates in the liver and kidney while edematous changes were observed in the brain. Simultaneous administration of taurine along with alcohol attenuated the rise in lipid levels and normalized ATPase activities. Histological changes were alleviated on treatment with taurine. The study suggests a bioprotective effect of taurine in ethanol intoxication.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?db=pubmed&cmd=Retrieve&dopt=AbstractPlus&list_uids=16084077
J Nutr Biochem. 2006 Jan;17(1):45-50. Epub 2005 May 31.
Effects of consecutive high-dose alcohol administration on the utilization of sulfur-containing amino acids by rats.
Yang HT, Chen YH, Chiu WC, Huang SY.
School of Pharmaceutical Science, Taipei Medical University, Taiwan.In this study, we attempted to evaluate changes in sulfur-containing amino acid (SCAA) metabolism after short-term high-dose alcohol ingestion. At the beginning of the study, six animals were sacrificed as the baseline group and then other animals in the experiment were consecutively gavaged with alcohol (30%, 3 g/kg) for 7 days. Animals (n=6 each) were subsequently sacrificed at the time points of Days 1 (Group E1), 3 (Group E3) and 7 (Group E7). Blood samples and selected tissues were collected at each time interval. SCAA, pyridoxal phosphate (PLP) and glutathione (GSH) levels were analyzed. Results showed that taurine levels of tissues (brain, liver, heart and kidneys) all declined after the ethanol intervention and continued to decrease in selected tissues except the brain during the experiment. Furthermore, the trends of plasma taurine and PLP contents were highly correlated (r=.98, P=.045). A similar utilization pattern of plasma taurine and PLP indicated that transsulfuration preferred taurine production to GSH synthesis. The trend of plasma taurine levels being positively correlated with PLP levels reveals that dramatic transsulfuration occurred to meet the urgent demand for taurine by brain cells. In conclusion, we reported that continual alcohol ingestion alters SCAA utilization, especially by depletion of taurine and hypotaurine and by elevation of S-adenosyl homocysteine in the selected organs.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?db=pubmed&cmd=Retrieve&dopt=AbstractPlus&list_uids=15309576
Amino Acids. 2004 Aug;27(1):91-6. Epub 2004 Apr 26.
Taurine restores ethanol-induced depletion of antioxidants and attenuates oxidative stress in rat tissues.
Pushpakiran G, Mahalakshmi K, Anuradha CV.
Department of Biochemistry, Faculty of Science, Annamalai University, Annamalai Nagar, Tamil Nadu, India.Ethanol by its property of generating free radicals during the course of its metabolism causes damage to cell structure and function. The study investigates the protective effects of the antioxidant aminoacid taurine on ethanol-induced lipid peroxidation and antioxidant status. Male Wistar rats of body weight 170-190 g were divided into 4 groups and maintained for 28 days as follows: a control group and taurine-supplemented control group, taurine supplemented and unsupplemented ethanol-fed group. Ethanol was administered to rats at a dosage of 3 g/kg body weight twice daily and taurine was provided in the diet (10 g/kg diet). Lipid peroxidation products and antioxidant potential were quantitated in plasma and in following tissues liver, brain, kidney and heart. Increased levels of thiobarbituric acid substances (TBARS) and lipid hydroperoxides (LHP) in plasma and tissues, decreased activities of superoxide dismutase (SOD), catalase (CAT) and glutathione peroxidase (GPx) were observed in hemolysate and tissues of ethanol-fed rats. The contents of reduced glutathione (GSH), alpha-tocopherol and ascorbic acid in plasma and tissues were significantly reduced in these animals as compared to control animals. Simultaneous administration of taurine along with ethanol attenuated the lipid peroxidation process and restored the levels of enzymatic and non-enzymatic antioxidants. We propose that taurine may have a bioprotective effect on ethanol-induced oxidative stress.
Posted by kelv on January 28, 2007, at 12:49:21
In reply to Re: Larry Hoover? » kelv, posted by Larry Hoover on January 28, 2007, at 12:05:01
> > Taurine-Alcohol
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I have an alcohol problem, in that i maintaince drink, but never really get drunk.
> >
> > I'm also scripted Xanax but that just helps smaller amounts of Vodka go longer.
> >
> > Whats the Taurine thing with alcohol?
> >
> > I'm scripted 3mgs Xanax daily, but take as needed. When i MUST sleep, i'll take 3-4mgs Xanax with a few shots Vodka to sleep.
> >
> > How can Taurine help?
> >
> > Thank you
>
> It would be easier for me to demonstrate the physiological effects of Campral/acamprosate, given the funding that flows towards patented medications. Natural substances just don't get the same respect/research funding.
>
> Ethanol and taurine do quite a dance, in a drinker's brain. Drinking causes acute release of taurine into neuronal synapses, causing stimulation of the GABA(A) receptor (same as benzos). After drinking has ended, there is a rebound in glutaminergic activity, which increases the demand for taurine further (taurine antagonizes glutamate).
>
> Ethanol also activates glycine-dependent receptors in the reward pathway. Taurine is a natural ligand for those same receptors. It's possible, therefore, that alcohol and taurine synergistically reward ethanol consumption, or that chronic drinking maintains the reward in taurine deficiency. In any case, drinking clearly causes depletion of neuronal taurine.
>
> Taurine also modulates beta-endorphin release, controls brain electrolytes, and has a substantial antioxidant effect throughout the brain.
>
> Acamprosate doesn't do anything taurine doesn't do, as far as I can tell. The only detail that I'm unclear on is dose. I'm thinking one gram, twice a day, is probably in the ballpark, though.
>
> Lar
Thank you!So drinking traps one into drinking by affecting Taurine release which is depleted by alcohol?
I'll go get some Taurine i think, i don't need a Docs permission like Campral.
Perhaps it will enable me to cut down on my tolerance for Vodka?
Any anadoctal real world stories on it's use/success?.
Once again thank you.
Posted by Jimmyboy on January 28, 2007, at 14:02:11
In reply to Re: Larry Hoover? » Larry Hoover, posted by kelv on January 28, 2007, at 12:49:21
So you said that glutamine rebounds after drinking? .. I know that alot of drugs work by inhibiting glutamine release, but i have noticed that glutamine seems to have antidepressant properties for me .. the day after I drink alot I feel great, provigil ( which releases glutamine , right?) , marijuana ( also releases glutamine) also-- so is it possible that if one is too low on glutamine that would be the cause of depression?
I al puzzled b/c I always hear what a bad thing glutamine is?
Thanks
JB
Posted by greenline on January 28, 2007, at 14:03:33
In reply to Re: Is My New Doctor Ethical? » greenline, posted by Larry Hoover on January 28, 2007, at 10:41:00
> > I recently went to a new psychiatrist to get off the drugs I currently take for anxiety. I have been taking 6 mg. of Ativan and Ambien CR to sleep. I want to get off these drugs because they make me feel sluggish and I've gained about 30lbs in the past year. The doctor asked me how much alcohol I drank and I told him I drank socially and a bit more when I was upset. I in no way led him to believe I had any kind of a drinking problem in any way. To make a long story short he gave me a prescription for Campral, told me it was basically a food additive which would help my brain recover from the benzo's I have been taking. I filled the prescription, looked it up online and was shocked to see that it was for alcholism. I am in no way an alcholic! I have looked all over the internet and I can't find any use for this drug other than to help alcoholics not drink. Why would he give this to me and make up the stuff about "food additive". I am really quite angry right now. I mean if I had a drinking problem I would admit it. To me this guy is basically saying that I lied to him and I do have a drinking problem and I need this drug. Should I find a new doctor, call this one or what? Thanks for anyone who can help me's help. I have posted this on two other boards and no one seems to know.
>
> I hope I don't sound like I'm covering your doctor's *ss, because he failed to communicate the rationale for his prescribing choice, but I can hypothesize what he was trying to accomplish.
>
> Acomprosate (Campral) is acetyl-homotaurine. The way I look at this drug is a way to patent a non-patentable food additive, taurine, and thus to profit enourmously from a prescription monopoly. Taurine is what makes Red Bull and its high-dose caffeine tolerable. It has an effect somewhat like GABA, the target of those benzos you take. Moreover, withdrawal from benzos has been associated with an increased appetite for alcohol consumption. The "I drank ...a bit more when I'm upset" concept might have led him to try and help you to not lean than way to manage the inevitable anxiety rebound from the benzo withdrawals. I hope you have sufficient meds to do a dosage taper over a few weeks time.
>
> LarLar, Thanks so much for your reply. What you said makes a lot of sense. I do have enough ativan to taper slowly, he's planning a really slow taper with the amount I had been on. I'm not even trying to get off the ambien till I'm off the ativan completely. Thanks again for the information! It was a great help to me. Green
Posted by Larry Hoover on January 28, 2007, at 14:17:32
In reply to Re: Larry Hoover? - rebound glutamine after drinks, posted by Jimmyboy on January 28, 2007, at 14:02:11
> So you said that glutamine rebounds after drinking? ..
I said: "After drinking has ended, there is a rebound in glutaminergic activity, which increases the demand for taurine further (taurine antagonizes glutamate). "
I mistakenly typed glutaminergic, when my reference in both instances is to glutamate. Sorry for the confusion.
Glutamine is not the same thing as glutamic acid, though both are basic amino acids. In many respects, glutamine has effects the opposite as does glutamate/glutamic acid.
> I know that alot of drugs work by inhibiting glutamine release, but i have noticed that glutamine seems to have antidepressant properties for me .. the day after I drink alot I feel great,Intermittent drinkers may indeed feel that way. Chronic drinkers do not.
> provigil ( which releases glutamine , right?) , marijuana ( also releases glutamine) also-- so is it possible that if one is too low on glutamine that would be the cause of depression?
Not so sure of those questions you ask. Maybe someone can answer that? Or, I'll look at it later.
> I al puzzled b/c I always hear what a bad thing glutamine is?
>
> Thanks
> JBGlutamate gets the bad press, as in monosodium glutamate. Glutamine is a different animal.
Lar
Posted by Larry Hoover on January 28, 2007, at 14:18:33
In reply to Re: Is My New Doctor Ethical?, posted by greenline on January 28, 2007, at 14:03:33
> Lar, Thanks so much for your reply. What you said makes a lot of sense.
Good. I'm glad. You're welcome.
> I do have enough ativan to taper slowly, he's planning a really slow taper with the amount I had been on. I'm not even trying to get off the ambien till I'm off the ativan completely. Thanks again for the information! It was a great help to me. Green
Excellent!
Lar
Posted by blueberry1 on January 28, 2007, at 14:43:27
In reply to Re: Larry Hoover? » kelv, posted by Larry Hoover on January 28, 2007, at 12:05:01
>Local perfusion of taurine (1, 10 or 100 mm in the perfusate) increased DA levels in the nAcc.The above from the first link supplied by Larry. That caught my attention. Taurine increases dopamine in the nucleus accumbens?
I tried tyrosine supplements last year. I had taurine onhand in case stimulation was too much. On a typical test day it went like this. First dose tyrosine lifted my mood real nice but only for 3 hours. Then a crash similar to ritalin. A second dose later did not do nearly as much as the first. A third dose later that day did nothing. By that time I actually had a lot of anxiety and even worse depression than I started with. So I pulled out the taurine. It did calm things down somewhat but something unexpected happened. It seemed to kickstart the tyrosine still in me and my mood lifted significantly, almost like that first dose of tyrosine did. I wonder if that was from the dopamine increase they talked about in the link?
On later trials of taurine it did provide some calming, not dramatic, but it always seemed to help mood anywhere in a range from neutral to somewhat pleasant. Most things make me feel worse, but taurine did not do that.
Posted by blueberry1 on January 28, 2007, at 14:52:54
In reply to Is My New Doctor Ethical?, posted by greenline on January 28, 2007, at 10:09:02
You might want to tell your doctor something like this at your next visit, "I want you and me to have a very good relationship. To do that you need to be honest with me. If you are going to give me an anti-alcoholic drug you need to tell me why and you need to educate me about the drug I am about to swallow." Not in those words, but you get the picture, something like that.
Taurine. I've tried it. I've tried so many amino acids, herbs, supplements of all kinds. Taurine is one of the very few that stands out as a winner.
It does give some calming. I only tried 250mg doses 2 or 3 times a day, and a 500mg dose a couple times. Some websites claim you can take up to 3000mg in a day. There was a recent post that taurine builds up in your body. So while you start with loading doses, you can actually require much less as it builds up. I don't know about that. Just repeating what was in another thread.
Both taurine and magnesium helped me to wean off xanax fairly easily. With the help of taurine I was able to cut my xanax dose in half almost right away. Just thought you might be interested in that.
Posted by med_empowered on January 28, 2007, at 17:13:35
In reply to Re: Is My New Doctor Ethical? » greenline, posted by blueberry1 on January 28, 2007, at 14:52:54
ummm....i dunno. Whatever his theory is, he needs to fill you in...you're kind of paying him for help, not to be turned into a guinea pig. I personally wouldn't stick with him--he clearly hasn't learned the importance of the term "informed consent"--but if you do, you need to lay down the law. Just be firm and explain that you're a grown up and you expected to be treated like one, so you expect to be given full information on anything he prescribes and you want to have some sort of input, since it is your life, afterall.
Personally, if I were you, I wouldn't stick with this guy. What he did (THIS TIME) was fairly harmless, but his approach strikes me as condescending to the point of disrespect.Good luck!
Posted by greenline on January 28, 2007, at 18:13:52
In reply to Re: Is My New Doctor Ethical?, posted by med_empowered on January 28, 2007, at 17:13:35
> ummm....i dunno. Whatever his theory is, he needs to fill you in...you're kind of paying him for help, not to be turned into a guinea pig. I personally wouldn't stick with him--he clearly hasn't learned the importance of the term "informed consent"--but if you do, you need to lay down the law. Just be firm and explain that you're a grown up and you expected to be treated like one, so you expect to be given full information on anything he prescribes and you want to have some sort of input, since it is your life, afterall.
> Personally, if I were you, I wouldn't stick with this guy. What he did (THIS TIME) was fairly harmless, but his approach strikes me as condescending to the point of disrespect.
>
> Good luck!I totally agree with you. I have actually been feeling like he felt I was lying about the amount I drink. I think I might give him a call tomorrow and ask him why he didn't tell me the truth about this drug.
Posted by gardenergirl on January 29, 2007, at 13:18:18
In reply to Re: Is My New Doctor Ethical?, posted by greenline on January 28, 2007, at 18:13:52
>
> I totally agree with you. I have actually been feeling like he felt I was lying about the amount I drink. I think I might give him a call tomorrow and ask him why he didn't tell me the truth about this drug.I've been told by former supervisors that I should take whatever number a client gives me when I ask how many drinks per week they consume and multiply that number by 4 to get the "true" number. I don't agree with this approach, and I don't do it, but it is the way some mental health professionals view how truthful clients are about drinking. Heck, my own psychiatrist asked me, and I answered truthfully. If he has the same view as my former supervisors, he must think I'm falling down drunk every day! Clearly he doesn't think that, so not all mental health professionals have the same attitude.
Also, I haven't looked at MD's ethical guidelines, and there would also be state regulations at play, but just from a client/doctor relationship issue, he did serious damage to your relationship, your trust, and his credibility by not being truthful about a med he prescribed, imo. My gut says it's not ethical. I definitely think it's not acceptable.
namaste
gg
Posted by Phillipa on January 29, 2007, at 19:31:28
In reply to Re: Is My New Doctor Ethical? » greenline, posted by gardenergirl on January 29, 2007, at 13:18:18
GG if that's true lying is neccessary which I never do. but in the past I said the truth that I drandk 4-6 beers a night so they thought 24!!!!! I've never even tried that would have passed out by then. Love Phillipa
Posted by shadowplayers721 on January 31, 2007, at 1:00:50
In reply to Is My New Doctor Ethical?, posted by greenline on January 28, 2007, at 10:09:02
I get the feeling your gut is telling you, "no way" to this doc. You may have unconsciously picked up something else that didn't sit well with you. I would listen to your gut. For example, when they prescribe anything else, you will want to know the heck it really is and not a vague term. Yes, that would count as honesty to me - open communication and not deceptive.
Posted by Ellen04 on February 3, 2007, at 21:55:38
In reply to Re: Is My New Doctor Ethical?, posted by shadowplayers721 on January 31, 2007, at 1:00:50
Take a look at what the OP says the doc said:
"To make a long story short he gave me a prescription for Campral, told me it was basically a food additive which would help my brain recover from the benzo's I have been taking.."
That's pretty much what Larry Hoover said, just a bit less detail. Seems to me the doc was honest. Not only that, creative and concerned for his patient's wellbeing. Sounds like a keeper to me.
Posted by Phillipa on February 3, 2007, at 22:38:41
In reply to Re: Is My New Doctor Ethical?, posted by shadowplayers721 on January 31, 2007, at 1:00:50
Campral is a medication for alcholism. Google it. Love Phillipa
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