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Posted by linkadge on December 10, 2006, at 15:58:01
This makes no sense at all, but I have had this sensation from time to time that the wall is inside of me.
I know it makes no sense, and what I am saying does not fully discribe what I feel, but thats the only way I think I can describe it.
Linkadge
Posted by Meri-Tuuli on December 10, 2006, at 16:18:07
In reply to The wall is inside me!, posted by linkadge on December 10, 2006, at 15:58:01
I think I can identify with what you're saying. I've had some important realizations too recently.
I hope this will help you somehow.
Kind regards
Meri
Posted by Phillipa on December 10, 2006, at 19:42:53
In reply to The wall is inside me!, posted by linkadge on December 10, 2006, at 15:58:01
The the wall to feelings? Love Phillipa
Posted by Iansf on December 10, 2006, at 23:18:49
In reply to Re: The wall is inside me! » linkadge, posted by Phillipa on December 10, 2006, at 19:42:53
I don't know if this is the same thing or not, but I suffer from social phobia and depression and often feel as if there is a glass wall between me and the world. There appears to be no barrier, but when I reach out I find myself unable to connect, and attempts by people to reach me get blocked as well. Because the wall's invisible, it looks as if everything is as it should be, only it isn't really.
Posted by Declan on December 10, 2006, at 23:54:05
In reply to Re: The wall is inside me!, posted by Iansf on December 10, 2006, at 23:18:49
People with depression often feel isolated and yearn for contact, but can find no way of satisfactorily experiencing it. For one reason or another, attempts at contact are rebuffed or not taken up. (This is just my opinion and is certainly not meant as a criticism.)
If people with depression could actually find some/more satisfying personal contact it would do a proportion of them the world of good.
I don't want to start or engage in another nature/nurture/biological/psychological thingo.
It's just my response to this thread.
Posted by madeline on December 11, 2006, at 6:20:56
In reply to The wall is inside me!, posted by linkadge on December 10, 2006, at 15:58:01
What is this wall keeping you from Linkadge?
Posted by linkadge on December 11, 2006, at 9:19:15
In reply to Re: The wall is inside me! » linkadge, posted by madeline on December 11, 2006, at 6:20:56
No, not a metaphorical wall, I mean the actuall wall!.
Sometimes, it feels like the wall, or other objects are in my head. I know it makes no sense, I wish I could describe the sensation better.
Linkadge
Posted by dessbee on December 11, 2006, at 11:10:11
In reply to Re: The wall is inside me!, posted by linkadge on December 11, 2006, at 9:19:15
Hi linkadge
My depression feels like a membrane or skin that shields focus, energy, motivation, concentration, involvment, emotions... you name it!
It's like a lid around my brain or like I am inside this bubble that can not pop, like my mind (brain) is not getting enough air.
When my depression alleviates I get this warm feeling of radiation in the frontal/temporal lobe of my right hemisphere.
I believe one reason to depression could be decreased perfusion of cortical layers of the brain and hence reduced cortical inhibition of CRP (corticotropin-releasing hormone in HPA-axis)
Posted by madeline on December 11, 2006, at 19:35:08
In reply to Re: The wall is inside me!, posted by linkadge on December 11, 2006, at 9:19:15
You mean like the physical wall in your room feels like it is in your head?
Does it hurt?
No i'm serious. Does it hurt?
Posted by Edwin Ransom on December 11, 2006, at 21:44:22
In reply to Re: The wall is inside me! » linkadge, posted by madeline on December 11, 2006, at 19:35:08
You guys are not helping.
Linkadge: don't get philosophical about the wall. Just knock it down! Smash the wall!
For inspiration:"Mr. Gorbachev, open this gate! Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall!" ~ Ronald Reagan.
Posted by linkadge on December 12, 2006, at 19:44:34
In reply to Re: The wall is inside me!, posted by Edwin Ransom on December 11, 2006, at 21:44:22
But I don't mean a metaphorical wall. It feels like the room is kindof undulating. It feels like the walls, (and sometimes other objects that I see) are physically a part of me. They feel like they're in my head, like they're in the sides of my head, the walls other either side of me are actually in the sides of my head.
It makes no sense. Anyhow, thats for listening at least:)
Linkadge
Posted by Phillipa on December 12, 2006, at 20:40:03
In reply to Re: The wall is inside me!, posted by linkadge on December 12, 2006, at 19:44:34
Link were you on any meds that you discontinued? It almost sounds like a form of withdrawal. Love Phillipa
Posted by elanor roosevelt on December 12, 2006, at 20:43:30
In reply to Re: The wall is inside me!, posted by linkadge on December 12, 2006, at 19:44:34
hang in there
i had a long time of deep darkness just behind me and a bottomless abyss.
i couldn't turn around at those times.
now that i think of it that's when i quit drinking
Posted by KayeBaby on December 12, 2006, at 22:07:08
In reply to Re: The wall is inside me!, posted by linkadge on December 12, 2006, at 19:44:34
Hey Linkadge,
I know things like this are so hard to describe but maybe it will help if you tell us what the other objects are.Someone else reading is bound to have experienced this sensation.
Does this feeling come and go? Have you ever taken anything or done anything that has made it stop?
I have strange ways of experiencing sensations sometimes.
Like why do sharp points sometimes hurt my eyes when I look at them?
Why does a small movement in the room when I am just falling asleep cause me to experience the sensation of my ears being clapped and vibration humming through my body. Not like when you jerk/startle awake-different
I am very interested in your experience.
Peace,
Kaye
Posted by madeline on December 13, 2006, at 6:21:24
In reply to Re: The wall is inside me!, posted by linkadge on December 12, 2006, at 19:44:34
I'm very interested in this symptom too. Is there any pain, or just a feeling of weirdness about it?
It is like a dizziness?
I don't know why this is happening, have you told a doc about it?
I mean, I'm not advocating that you should run out and proclaim what's going on - it might land you in a worse place than you are right now.
Is there any provider that you could trust with this?
m
Posted by tessellated on December 13, 2006, at 11:16:09
In reply to Re: The wall is inside me!, posted by madeline on December 13, 2006, at 6:21:24
I've had all sorts of odd perceptual effects when i: started new med, a med poops, stopped/tapered a med,or from prolonged sleep deprivation.
The truth is, reality is a construction. Those walls do exist inside your mind. Now if you can walk through those walls, then we're talking something remarkable.
Personally, I've really been reducing my chem intake to 1x150 wellbutrin and caffeine, from a parnate based cocktail, because my hyper acute or distoted sense perceptions were getting to be disruptive.
I think the most common/scary one I hear about is movement in the peripheral vision. And typically, in my experience the med's that muck with this are of a dopaminergic flavoring. and spending lots of time by oneself...
Really sucks, as it's not exactly (mood) poop out, and i was often quite open to perceptual curiosities (as an artist), but after a few bad experiences-it's the perceptual oddities that scare me off of potent AD therapy. Now I just feel like a lump. Not much better.
Hoping more light will help after the 21st.
Oh and maybe a brief sex holliday.Cheers,
l8
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