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Posted by notfred on November 5, 2006, at 13:01:20
This snip from Crazy Meds sums up some common pitfalls.
Welcome to Crazy Meds, your one-stop information portal for the mentally interesting. More or less. We offer a fourth way diverging from the unfortunate majority of consumer-oriented sites one finds on the Internets:
Couch-jumping, fear-mongering, sometimes glib sites that condemn all neurological medications as tools of the devil with ever-lasting side effects that will cripple or kill you; while the people who prescribe them one or more of idiots, sadists, sorcerers and/or members of the global conspiracy out to get the people involved. The only solution to your problems is a regimen of vitamins, herbs, exercise, exorcism and **endless** bitching about doctors and drugs.
Pharmaceutical company sites who offer up their drugs as panaceas with few mild-to-moderate side effects. Little is mentioned about the cost to the uninsured. Actual side effects are buried in doctor-speak and no real idea is presented about the chances of their happening, how long they last or if they will go away during the course of your taking the medication. The same goes for if the drug will work for you or not.
Support group sites that offer tea and sympathy when it comes to medications. They are great for living with whatever it is you have, but far too often will just enable bad choices in not taking your meds or trying to take the wrong drugs for the wrong reasons.
Posted by river1924 on November 5, 2006, at 15:01:01
In reply to What is wrong with many MI internet sites, posted by notfred on November 5, 2006, at 13:01:20
What does this section mean? (I kind gave up on most sites, most advice, and most flavor-of-the-month meds years ago (Emsam would fall into that category) and don't bother looking so I I am probably out of the loop.)
"Support group sites that offer tea and sympathy when it comes to medications. They are great for living with whatever it is you have, but far too often will just enable bad choices in not taking your meds or trying to take the wrong drugs for the wrong reasons.
I love the rest of the article.
I've never really looked at CrazyMeds because I thought it fell into the group of "glib sites that condemn all neurological medications as tools of the devil."
Most people I know fall into that group. I have a nephew (who has a sister with problems like I do) who thinks he "understands" but believes we could overcome our depression and anxiety with "proper thinking" and "breathing in the light."
I always say (to the confused looks of people like him): When you want to kill yourself, meds are are the lesser of two evils.
I split the world into two camps- those who have thought about suicide and those who haven't. "Those who haven't" don't get it. It is even worse if I run into a doctor or religious person who don't "get it." I have a cousin who reads the bible all the time and looks like a cadaver or someone with cancer but refuses to admit his insomnia and forced smiles may indicate he needs some kind of mental health care.
Of course, a large portion of people are delusional about death and disability. I work at a very good county funded nursing home and people complain about their taxes. We provide better care that most profit orientated nursing homes but when asked directly, people will deny that they or anyone they care about will need a clean well staffed facility so why should they pay for a county nursing home. Our county is being sued (by disability groups of all people) because it wants to expand a school for the mentally retarded. I know there is a difference between mental retardation, death, the elderly and psychological problems... but the internet sites crazymeds talks about are just more evidence that people refuse to walk in someone else's shoes and realize "problems" exist and no treatment or idea is applicable to everyone.
It is very easy, I guess, to ignore reality. Realism is a benefit of depression I've been told. If that is true, I've had reality shoved down my throat many times. but as I mentioned, my nephew doesn't believe or understand me. I don't really expect much imagination from most people. People don't believe they will get old, or the mentally disabled may prefer "segregation" or I really do want to kill myself do to emotional turmoil
Wow. I went on and on. Sorry. I hope my comment is taken as just that. One of many.
Peace, RiverJulian.
Posted by Phillipa on November 5, 2006, at 19:54:24
In reply to Re: What is wrong with many MI internet sites » notfred, posted by river1924 on November 5, 2006, at 15:01:01
Someone told me that the guy that runs crazymeds and his wife had VNS and are both mentally ill. Is this true? Anyone know? Love Phillipa
Posted by notfred on November 6, 2006, at 0:37:59
In reply to Re: What is wrong with many MI internet sites, posted by Phillipa on November 5, 2006, at 19:54:24
> Someone told me that the guy that runs crazymeds and his wife had VNS and are both mentally ill. Is this true? Anyone know? Love Phillipa
There is a guy who runs a site about his wifes VNS treatment. He has not had VNS, she has. He has been kicked off several MI sites. Not related to Crazy Meds, though he might of been kicked off that site.No one running Crazy Meds has had VNS or is married to another. The site is "by crazy people for crazy people".
http://www.crazymeds.org/crazypeople.html
Posted by Phillipa on November 6, 2006, at 17:13:33
In reply to Re: What is wrong with many MI internet sites, posted by notfred on November 6, 2006, at 0:37:59
Fred thanks someone mentioned what I said in a thread once. Love Phillipa
Posted by Dr. Bob on November 8, 2006, at 20:53:15
In reply to Re: What is wrong with many MI internet sites » notfred, posted by river1924 on November 5, 2006, at 15:01:01
> the unfortunate majority of consumer-oriented sites
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> notfred> I thought it fell into the group of "glib sites that condemn all neurological medications as tools of the devil."
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> river1924It's fine to discuss what information to trust, but please be sensitive to the feelings of others (such as those who like and use other sites). Even if you're quoting someone else.
But please don't take this personally, this doesn't mean I don't like you or think you're bad people.
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Thanks,
Bob
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