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Posted by MARTY on August 28, 2006, at 12:19:26
In reply to Ocinaplon, posted by Tom Twilight on August 28, 2006, at 12:02:13
Too bad :S Let's keep the faith.. there's so much in the pipeline.http://www.neurotransmitter.net/newdrugs.html
Marty
> Hey Marty
>
> You got my hopes up there, unfortunatly the article is quite out of date, for some reason Ocinaplon has been discontinued :(
Posted by Crazy Horse on August 29, 2006, at 13:47:07
In reply to Re: lyrica is bad news » sparkles, posted by MARTY on August 27, 2006, at 15:00:25
>
> Hi --
>
> I think your post doesn't help anyone. I'm sorry it didn't work for you but that doesn't mean it couldn't work for everyone.
>
> Lyrica is an underused drug in many pdoc's opinion.
>
> I heard many people saying that it works for them and some even saying it saved their life!
>
> One of my friend and I are doing so well on it that we may say in time that it has saved our life too.
>
> Every single meds had some people doing VERY BADLY on them and almost killed some. But for every person having those bad experience, their are at least 100 others than are doing better because of it.
>
> Hope you'll do better on your next med try,
>
> MartyI agree 100% with Marty's post! Lyrica has been working EXTREMELY WELL for me for over 2 mos. At 300 mgs. b.i.d. i feel relaxed, my mood is excellent, i am pro-social, and i have an abundance of energy. For many, high dose Lyrica=a very much improved quality of life!
-Monte
Posted by SLS on August 29, 2006, at 14:49:19
In reply to Re: lyrica is bad news » MARTY, posted by Crazy Horse on August 29, 2006, at 13:47:07
> Lyrica has been working EXTREMELY WELL for me for over 2 mos. At 300 mgs. b.i.d. i feel relaxed, my mood is excellent, i am pro-social, and i have an abundance of energy. For many, high dose Lyrica=a very much improved quality of life!
Hi Monte.
I'm glad to see you back. It is surely good news that Lyrica continues to work for you.
How did you titrate up to 600mg?
- Scott
Posted by Crazy Horse on August 29, 2006, at 17:19:29
In reply to Re: lyrica is bad news » Crazy Horse, posted by SLS on August 29, 2006, at 14:49:19
> > Lyrica has been working EXTREMELY WELL for me for over 2 mos. At 300 mgs. b.i.d. i feel relaxed, my mood is excellent, i am pro-social, and i have an abundance of energy. For many, high dose Lyrica=a very much improved quality of life!
>
> Hi Monte.
>
> I'm glad to see you back. It is surely good news that Lyrica continues to work for you.
>
> How did you titrate up to 600mg?
>
> Hi Scott,Thank you for the nice welcome back.
I started slow, 50 mgs. t.i.d., and increased it by 50 mgs. about every 3 days until i reached 600 mgs. Now i like 300 mgs b.i.d. I take 300 at 7:00 a.m. and 300 at 1:00 p.m. and it works beautifully.
My Pdoc took me off the EMSAM, i just wasn't feeling very good on it towards the end, and i was having insomnia problems. He put me on Zoloft 100 mgs. daily per my request. So now i am on Zoloft 100 mgs., Lyrica 600 mgs., Klonopin 1 mg. b.i.d., and Trazodone 200 mgs. at bedtime. And honestly this is the best i have felt in a year.
How are you doing Scott? I highly recommend trying high dose Lyrica. For me it has been a miracle drug! I hope and pray it lasts. ;)
-Monte
Posted by SLS on August 29, 2006, at 17:42:41
In reply to Re: lyrica is bad news » SLS, posted by Crazy Horse on August 29, 2006, at 17:19:29
> > > Lyrica has been working EXTREMELY WELL for me for over 2 mos. At 300 mgs. b.i.d. i feel relaxed, my mood is excellent, i am pro-social, and i have an abundance of energy. For many, high dose Lyrica=a very much improved quality of life!
> >
> > Hi Monte.
> >
> > I'm glad to see you back. It is surely good news that Lyrica continues to work for you.
> >
> > How did you titrate up to 600mg?
> >
> > Hi Scott,
>
> Thank you for the nice welcome back.
>
> I started slow, 50 mgs. t.i.d., and increased it by 50 mgs. about every 3 days until i reached 600 mgs. Now i like 300 mgs b.i.d. I take 300 at 7:00 a.m. and 300 at 1:00 p.m. and it works beautifully.
>
> My Pdoc took me off the EMSAM, i just wasn't feeling very good on it towards the end, and i was having insomnia problems. He put me on Zoloft 100 mgs. daily per my request. So now i am on Zoloft 100 mgs., Lyrica 600 mgs., Klonopin 1 mg. b.i.d., and Trazodone 200 mgs. at bedtime. And honestly this is the best i have felt in a year.
> How are you doing Scott?Not too well. I tried taking sibutramine 20mg. It made me feel worse after two weeks, and I still haven't fully recovered. I stopped taking it five days ago.
I discussed trying Lyrica with my doctor, and he gave me a prescription for 25mg t.i.d. He has a few patients taking 300mg. I haven't started it yet. I didn't want to start taking it while I was still feeling worse from the sibutramine.
Did you ever try Neurontin?
> I highly recommend trying high dose Lyrica. For me it has been a miracle drug!
> I hope and pray it lasts. ;)
Me too!
Stay well.
- Scott
Posted by Crazy Horse on August 30, 2006, at 9:07:48
In reply to Re: lyrica is bad news » Crazy Horse, posted by SLS on August 29, 2006, at 17:42:41
> > > > Lyrica has been working EXTREMELY WELL for me for over 2 mos. At 300 mgs. b.i.d. i feel relaxed, my mood is excellent, i am pro-social, and i have an abundance of energy. For many, high dose Lyrica=a very much improved quality of life!
> > >
> > > Hi Monte.
> > >
> > > I'm glad to see you back. It is surely good news that Lyrica continues to work for you.
> > >
> > > How did you titrate up to 600mg?
> > >
> > > Hi Scott,
> >
> > Thank you for the nice welcome back.
> >
> > I started slow, 50 mgs. t.i.d., and increased it by 50 mgs. about every 3 days until i reached 600 mgs. Now i like 300 mgs b.i.d. I take 300 at 7:00 a.m. and 300 at 1:00 p.m. and it works beautifully.
> >
> > My Pdoc took me off the EMSAM, i just wasn't feeling very good on it towards the end, and i was having insomnia problems. He put me on Zoloft 100 mgs. daily per my request. So now i am on Zoloft 100 mgs., Lyrica 600 mgs., Klonopin 1 mg. b.i.d., and Trazodone 200 mgs. at bedtime. And honestly this is the best i have felt in a year.
>
>
> > How are you doing Scott?
>
> Not too well. I tried taking sibutramine 20mg. It made me feel worse after two weeks, and I still haven't fully recovered. I stopped taking it five days ago.
>
> I discussed trying Lyrica with my doctor, and he gave me a prescription for 25mg t.i.d. He has a few patients taking 300mg. I haven't started it yet. I didn't want to start taking it while I was still feeling worse from the sibutramine.
>
> Did you ever try Neurontin?
>
> > I highly recommend trying high dose Lyrica. For me it has been a miracle drug!
>
> > I hope and pray it lasts. ;)
>
> Me too!
>
> Stay well.
>
>
> - ScottI'm sorry you aren't feeling well Scott. I agree, wait until you are feeling a little better before you give the Lyrica a try. But be patient with Lyrica. At low dose you will probably feel sedated. Low dose = sedation, high dose = energy. It took me a few weeks of slow titration until i got up to the 300-400 mg. range before i could feel the energizing, mood elevation effect. You (i hope and believe) will "feel" the difference when you get to the 3-400 mg. range. It's a very noticable and nice feeling.
Yes, I have tried Neurontin before. I was on 1200 mgs. a day for 6 months in 1999, and it did nothing for me. Lyrica is like a new and improved version of gabapentin. 3 to 10 times more powerful. There is like one molecule diference between the 2 drugs. No comparison in my opinion.
I REALLY hope it works for you Scott.
- Monte
Posted by gardenergirl on August 30, 2006, at 10:02:04
In reply to Re: lyrica is bad news » sparkles, posted by MARTY on August 27, 2006, at 15:00:25
> I think your post doesn't help anyone.Marty,
Keeping in mind that the idea here is support and not posting anything that could lead others to feel accused or put down, would you please rephrase the above?If you or others have questions about this or about posting policies in general, or are interested in alternative ways of expressing yourself, please see the FAQ:
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faq.html#civilThanks,
deputy gg
Posted by MARTY on August 30, 2006, at 12:08:58
In reply to Re: lyrica is bad news, posted by Crazy Horse on August 30, 2006, at 9:07:48
Hi Montidlididou, :)Hey I can't remember the last time I bashed you in public .. ? bah, I'm sure I didn't bust my monthly quota anyway... so, let's do this, I dont have all day :P
Pregabalin (Lyrica) and Gabapentin (Neurontin) are both molecules. Pregabalin can't be "a molecule difference" from Neurontin. :D
But you're right: they are different and Pregabalin is more potent in some aspect.what ? don't look me like this! at least I'm talking to you :) eheh
Didn't have news from you since your computer crashed. Hope to catch you on MSN soon.
Marty
> > > > > Lyrica has been working EXTREMELY WELL for me for over 2 mos. At 300 mgs. b.i.d. i feel relaxed, my mood is excellent, i am pro-social, and i have an abundance of energy. For many, high dose Lyrica=a very much improved quality of life!
> > > >
> > > > Hi Monte.
> > > >
> > > > I'm glad to see you back. It is surely good news that Lyrica continues to work for you.
> > > >
> > > > How did you titrate up to 600mg?
> > > >
> > > > Hi Scott,
> > >
> > > Thank you for the nice welcome back.
> > >
> > > I started slow, 50 mgs. t.i.d., and increased it by 50 mgs. about every 3 days until i reached 600 mgs. Now i like 300 mgs b.i.d. I take 300 at 7:00 a.m. and 300 at 1:00 p.m. and it works beautifully.
> > >
> > > My Pdoc took me off the EMSAM, i just wasn't feeling very good on it towards the end, and i was having insomnia problems. He put me on Zoloft 100 mgs. daily per my request. So now i am on Zoloft 100 mgs., Lyrica 600 mgs., Klonopin 1 mg. b.i.d., and Trazodone 200 mgs. at bedtime. And honestly this is the best i have felt in a year.
> >
> >
> > > How are you doing Scott?
> >
> > Not too well. I tried taking sibutramine 20mg. It made me feel worse after two weeks, and I still haven't fully recovered. I stopped taking it five days ago.
> >
> > I discussed trying Lyrica with my doctor, and he gave me a prescription for 25mg t.i.d. He has a few patients taking 300mg. I haven't started it yet. I didn't want to start taking it while I was still feeling worse from the sibutramine.
> >
> > Did you ever try Neurontin?
> >
> > > I highly recommend trying high dose Lyrica. For me it has been a miracle drug!
> >
> > > I hope and pray it lasts. ;)
> >
> > Me too!
> >
> > Stay well.
> >
> >
> > - Scott
>
> I'm sorry you aren't feeling well Scott. I agree, wait until you are feeling a little better before you give the Lyrica a try. But be patient with Lyrica. At low dose you will probably feel sedated. Low dose = sedation, high dose = energy. It took me a few weeks of slow titration until i got up to the 300-400 mg. range before i could feel the energizing, mood elevation effect. You (i hope and believe) will "feel" the difference when you get to the 3-400 mg. range. It's a very noticable and nice feeling.
>
> Yes, I have tried Neurontin before. I was on 1200 mgs. a day for 6 months in 1999, and it did nothing for me. Lyrica is like a new and improved version of gabapentin. 3 to 10 times more powerful. There is like one molecule diference between the 2 drugs. No comparison in my opinion.
>
> I REALLY hope it works for you Scott.
>
> - Monte
Posted by MARTY on August 30, 2006, at 12:22:26
In reply to Please rephrase this » MARTY, posted by gardenergirl on August 30, 2006, at 10:02:04
You're right.I can't really rephrase it since I'm no longer think what I said. I think every opinion's helping people out there.
>
> > I think your post doesn't help anyone.
>
> Marty,
> Keeping in mind that the idea here is support and not posting anything that could lead others to feel accused or put down, would you please rephrase the above?
>
> If you or others have questions about this or about posting policies in general, or are interested in alternative ways of expressing yourself, please see the FAQ:
> http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faq.html#civil
>
> Thanks,
> deputy gg
>
Posted by Crazy Horse on August 30, 2006, at 14:43:48
In reply to Re: lyrica is bad news » Crazy Horse, posted by MARTY on August 30, 2006, at 12:08:58
>
> Hi Montidlididou, :)
>
> Hey I can't remember the last time I bashed you in public .. ? bah, I'm sure I didn't bust my monthly quota anyway... so, let's do this, I dont have all day :P
>
> Pregabalin (Lyrica) and Gabapentin (Neurontin) are both molecules. Pregabalin can't be "a molecule difference" from Neurontin. :D
> But you're right: they are different and Pregabalin is more potent in some aspect.
>
> what ? don't look me like this! at least I'm talking to you :) eheh
>
> Didn't have news from you since your computer crashed. Hope to catch you on MSN soon.Martinibeaniboy,
Well, it's obvious (with your higher I.Q. than mine), that you know better than me..YOU DOG LOUIE! LOL ;)-Crazy Horse
Posted by SLS on August 31, 2006, at 14:20:47
In reply to Re: lyrica is bad news » MARTY, posted by Crazy Horse on August 30, 2006, at 14:43:48
Hi Monte.
Is it fair to say that Lyrica monotherapy is inadequate as an antidepressant treatment in your case?
- Scott
Posted by MARTY on August 31, 2006, at 15:43:11
In reply to Lyrica » Crazy Horse, posted by SLS on August 31, 2006, at 14:20:47
Hi Scott --My feeling as of now is that it all depends on the level of depression. I think it could punch enough antidepressant effect to answer the majority of every "depression" being currently treated with monoamine\catholamine targeting ADs. You, me and Monte .. I don't think so. But as you can guess, it hard to know since neither Monte or I tried it as a monotherapy. And no Scott, I will not f* with my meds just to answer better your question :P ;)
Marty
> Hi Monte.
>
> Is it fair to say that Lyrica monotherapy is inadequate as an antidepressant treatment in your case?
>
>
> - Scott
Posted by Crazy Horse on August 31, 2006, at 16:00:25
In reply to Re: Lyrica » SLS, posted by MARTY on August 31, 2006, at 15:43:11
>
> Hi Scott --
>
> My feeling as of now is that it all depends on the level of depression. I think it could punch enough antidepressant effect to answer the majority of every "depression" being currently treated with monoamine\catholamine targeting ADs. You, me and Monte .. I don't think so. But as you can guess, it hard to know since neither Monte or I tried it as a monotherapy. And no Scott, I will not f* with my meds just to answer better your question :P ;)
>
> Marty
>
> > Hi Monte.
> >
> > Is it fair to say that Lyrica monotherapy is inadequate as an antidepressant treatment in your case?
> >
> >
> > - Scott
>
>Monotherapy, no. Perhaps Lyrica plus the 2 mg. of Klonopin daily would suffice. However, I am not confident enough to try this. As you know, i also take 100 mgs. of Zoloft and 200 mgs. of Trazodone a day.
-Monte
Posted by Crazy Horse on August 31, 2006, at 16:01:46
In reply to Lyrica » Crazy Horse, posted by SLS on August 31, 2006, at 14:20:47
Posted by mayzee on August 31, 2006, at 17:25:08
In reply to Re: lyrica is bad news » SLS, posted by Crazy Horse on August 29, 2006, at 17:19:29
> My Pdoc took me off the EMSAM, i just wasn't feeling very good on it towards the end, and i was having insomnia problems. He put me on Zoloft 100 mgs. daily per my request. So now i am on Zoloft 100 mgs., Lyrica 600 mgs., Klonopin 1 mg. b.i.d., and Trazodone 200 mgs. at bedtime. And honestly this is the best i have felt in a year.
>Hi Monte,
Could you please say a bit more about your decision to discontinue EMSAM? In previous posts you sounded pretty happy with EMSAM. How did you decide that it was the EMSAM that was causing you to not feel very good?
Thanks,
mayzee
(6mg EMSAM, 5mg Ritalin)
Posted by Crazy Horse on August 31, 2006, at 19:26:34
In reply to Re: EMSAM d/c » Crazy Horse, posted by mayzee on August 31, 2006, at 17:25:08
> > My Pdoc took me off the EMSAM, i just wasn't feeling very good on it towards the end, and i was having insomnia problems. He put me on Zoloft 100 mgs. daily per my request. So now i am on Zoloft 100 mgs., Lyrica 600 mgs., Klonopin 1 mg. b.i.d., and Trazodone 200 mgs. at bedtime. And honestly this is the best i have felt in a year.
> >
>
> Hi Monte,
>
> Could you please say a bit more about your decision to discontinue EMSAM? In previous posts you sounded pretty happy with EMSAM. How did you decide that it was the EMSAM that was causing you to not feel very good?
>
> Thanks,
> mayzee
> (6mg EMSAM, 5mg Ritalin)mayzee,
Well, i'm not really sure it was "causing me to not feel good," but i am sure, towards the end it wasn't helping me. The EMSAM induced insomnia was getting progressively worse, and this in turn caused my depression to worsen. I actually think when i felt it was the EMSAM making me feel better in the beginning, it was actually the Lyrica that i am on that made me feel better. When my Doc took me off the EMSAM, i immediately began to feel better ( i think because the Lyrica was working). Bottom line , for me, EMSAM was not a good med, and Lyrica is the best med i have been on in 26 years. Remember, i said "for me". Best of Luck to you. :)
-Monte
Posted by gardenergirl on August 31, 2006, at 21:16:15
In reply to Re: Please rephrase this » gardenergirl, posted by MARTY on August 30, 2006, at 12:22:26
Posted by corafree on September 3, 2006, at 17:21:42
In reply to Lyrica » Crazy Horse, posted by SLS on August 31, 2006, at 14:20:47
My computer and I've been 'physically ill', so I, again, apologize if I've left threads w/o following up. Have to call to have my spam removed before my mail will come in. I cannot afford DSL.
I noticed Lyrica thread.
I just started it 'for back pain'.
I've been on oxycodone 10/650 3x a day for a few years.
I'm pretty scared as I 'cut down / DETOX' oxycodone here alone, taking Lyrica 'just 75mg' only @ h.s., as when I took it during day became dizzy and a bit loopy.
Main reason for 'DETOX' is my digestion/ elimination was/has come to nearly a standstill.
By this time of the day, I would have taken my morning dose of oxycodone, and its time for afternoon dose. Well didn't take my morning dose. I'm going to take my regular 2nd dose now. I think that's best. Sort of 'on my own' at this.
No pain yet. Still, must take midday oxycodone dose.
I'm now asking myself re: Lyrica, how do I feel 'emotionally'?
Maybe a little 'clarity of thought'.
I've also switched from Valium back to Xanax 1mg 3x a day or as needed, thinking Valium another culprit in 'slowing down my system'.
Don't find myself 'needing' the Xanax that much :0?; but did take 1mg earlier and just fell asleep. Whoops. Hmmm.
Anyway, re: Lyrica 'killing2birdsw/1stone' ... can't miss this one.
Will give it a good try and maybe an increase.
Don't know when I'll get to read followups.
wishmeluck, cf
Posted by Phillipa on September 3, 2006, at 20:12:53
In reply to Re: Lyrica, posted by corafree on September 3, 2006, at 17:21:42
Lyrica is great for nerve pain. I think it was originally for this. Didn't they recently find out it's also good for anxiety. Corafree since I can't e-mail you how the heck did you get off the valium? Love Phillipa
Posted by Crazy Horse on September 3, 2006, at 23:23:57
In reply to Re: Lyrica » corafree, posted by Phillipa on September 3, 2006, at 20:12:53
> Lyrica is great for nerve pain. I think it was originally for this. Didn't they recently find out it's also good for anxiety. Corafree since I can't e-mail you how the heck did you get off the valium? Love Phillipa
It's an anticonvulsant medication. And it is also approved for diabetic neuropathy. High dose, usually 600 mgs. a day is approved in Europe (i believe it's in Europe) for depression and anxiety. It is used in the U.S. off Label for depression and anxiety.
-Monte
Posted by tgo on September 3, 2006, at 23:28:30
In reply to Re: Lyrica » Phillipa, posted by Crazy Horse on September 3, 2006, at 23:23:57
Ok, folks. Has anyone had weight gain on this med. Since it is similiar to Nuerontin, I am concerned as I have heard Neurontin caused big weight gain.
Posted by Crazy Horse on September 3, 2006, at 23:30:39
In reply to Re: Lyrica, posted by tgo on September 3, 2006, at 23:28:30
> Ok, folks. Has anyone had weight gain on this med. Since it is similiar to Nuerontin, I am concerned as I have heard Neurontin caused big weight gain.
>In 2.5 mos., no weight gain for me.
-Monte
Posted by Phillipa on September 4, 2006, at 20:53:01
In reply to Re: Lyrica, posted by Crazy Horse on September 3, 2006, at 23:30:39
I don't think Jakeman gained wt either. Love Phillipa
Posted by corafree on September 5, 2006, at 13:05:46
In reply to Re: Lyrica » Phillipa, posted by Crazy Horse on September 3, 2006, at 23:23:57
Well I'll be dipped!! Tks Crazy Horse.
cf
Posted by corafree on September 5, 2006, at 13:08:20
In reply to Re: Lyrica, posted by tgo on September 3, 2006, at 23:28:30
Oh dear ... I hope not. Just got off bio-identical hormone therapy and back on synthetic patches as was soo appetite inducing, and I'm small and can't eat that much. I'd be salt and sugar, back and forth, especially @ night when alone, shouldn't eat so much then.
willsee, cf
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