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Posted by Chairman_MAO on July 3, 2006, at 22:15:10
I have now been on Nardil 90mg/day for 90%+ of fifteen months. It is amazing how much I have acclimated to the drug: I only have slight urinary retention, constipation, and impotence from it. Orgasm takes longer, but for me this is a good thing. I do NOT have anorgasmia anymore, and sex on Nardil is overall much better than it was on SSRIs because I can feel far more pleasure, both physically and emotionally.
I am not euphoric/hypomanic like I was in the beginning, but my most crippling issues (dysthymia/atypical depression, agoraphobia/social phobia, generalized anxiety) are still "in remission".
My doctor is finally going to add Dexedrine in a few weeks for ADHD (residual type) and to improve sex.
Please, I urge anyone with similar issues who is still suffering try 1mg/kg Nardil [ + buprenorphine] + Dexedrine.
Posted by jedi on July 4, 2006, at 1:46:53
In reply to Nardil update, posted by Chairman_MAO on July 3, 2006, at 22:15:10
> I have now been on Nardil 90mg/day for 90%+ of fifteen months. It is amazing how much I have acclimated to the drug: I only have slight urinary retention, constipation, and impotence from it. Orgasm takes longer, but for me this is a good thing. I do NOT have anorgasmia anymore, and sex on Nardil is overall much better than it was on SSRIs because I can feel far more pleasure, both physically and emotionally.
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> I am not euphoric/hypomanic like I was in the beginning, but my most crippling issues (dysthymia/atypical depression, agoraphobia/social phobia, generalized anxiety) are still "in remission".
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> My doctor is finally going to add Dexedrine in a few weeks for ADHD (residual type) and to improve sex.
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> Please, I urge anyone with similar issues who is still suffering try 1mg/kg Nardil [ + buprenorphine] + Dexedrine.
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>Hi Chairman,
I'm on the same page as you when it comes to Nardil. It is the only med out of 35+ combinations that has helped my treatment resistant atypical depression and social anxiety. I augment the Nardil with 1mg of clonazepam. I was thinking of trying to talk my MD into a trial of modafinal to maybe help with some of the daytime fatigue and anhedonia that I still have, despite Nardil. What do you think of this; I believe it would be an easier sell for me than an amphetamine. I still have no idea how to get a script for buprenorphine. I'm sure it would help with my residual depression, just because of my positive reaction to other opioid medications.
Glad you're felling better,
Jedi
Posted by Jat on July 4, 2006, at 8:36:06
In reply to Nardil update, posted by Chairman_MAO on July 3, 2006, at 22:15:10
Hey Chairman,
Congratulations on your sucess with nardil! Thanks for the update!
Quick questions .... How has the weight gain been? How is your sleeping?
Happy 4th!
Jat
> I have now been on Nardil 90mg/day for 90%+ of fifteen months. It is amazing how much I have acclimated to the drug: I only have slight urinary retention, constipation, and impotence from it. Orgasm takes longer, but for me this is a good thing. I do NOT have anorgasmia anymore, and sex on Nardil is overall much better than it was on SSRIs because I can feel far more pleasure, both physically and emotionally.
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> I am not euphoric/hypomanic like I was in the beginning, but my most crippling issues (dysthymia/atypical depression, agoraphobia/social phobia, generalized anxiety) are still "in remission".
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> My doctor is finally going to add Dexedrine in a few weeks for ADHD (residual type) and to improve sex.
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> Please, I urge anyone with similar issues who is still suffering try 1mg/kg Nardil [ + buprenorphine] + Dexedrine.
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Posted by Chairman_MAO on July 4, 2006, at 12:11:59
In reply to Re: Nardil update » Chairman_MAO, posted by Jat on July 4, 2006, at 8:36:06
I take 5-10mg Ambien for sleep as needed. If I have a full, active day and am on a good sleep schedule I do not always have to use a sleep aid.
I have a propensity for weight gain but since I am so poor now I have lost weight, heh. :) In my experience, a lot of what is called "weight gain" is actually edema/water retention that can be mitigated with a diuretic, such as 25-50mg hydrochlorothiazide.
Keep in mind that hydrazine sulfate has been used to treat cachexia (sp?), or wasting syndrome. Nardil is alpha-methyl-phenylethylhydrazine (hydrazine analogue of amphetamine). When I was working out 4-5 days a week, I could eat whatever I wanted and gained muscle instead of fat.
Posted by sdb on July 4, 2006, at 16:11:58
In reply to Re: Nardil update » Jat, posted by Chairman_MAO on July 4, 2006, at 12:11:59
Nardil experience
I took the nardil to see what it really does:
-it had antidepressant but much more a calming effect than an activating one.
-the start was much less problematic than a start with a ssri (I took (one) ssri (citalolopram, escitalopram) in my life long time ago and after some pills I was from melancholic changed to depressed with very strange thoughts, these drugs hurt me until now)
-if not taking regularly it was possible to have something like a short withdrawal. Thus Nardil divided 3 or x times a day, taking dosages
exactly at the same time could be an advantage.
-if not taking regularly or doing dosage adjustments sometimes myoclonic tics happend.
-during stopping the drug maybe too fast myoclonic tics occurred and a twiching body when trying to sleep (changing sleep stage)
-every myoclonic tics disappeared completely afer stopping the drug gradually after approx. 2 weeks.
-Nardil remains definitively for some weeks in your system in spite of a clean plasma. Be cautious of taking other drugs e.g. srris after the withdrawal (!)
-there was a sweet craving of chocolate...and a little weight gain. Because I did some training somebody was amazed saying uhh I did not know you have only bones and muscles, actually not a bad thing...someting like an anabolic effect
-i was very cautious with cheese first. But after a while I was able to eat a full pizza with mozarella and gorgonzola cheese. But note that I took only a tiny piece of cheese first and then I slowly titrated up.
-IMHO nardil is a strong antipanic drug with some psychotropic action.
-combined with clonazepam it could be very effective for sp, pd and I can support the experiences of other people here.
-I had something like a withdrawal phase e.g. more nervousness and such things.
-I took on average 45mg during approx. 4 1/2 weeks
-absolutely no problems to reach erections but total inhibition of orgasm after 3 1/2 weeks. I can simply not imagine that there could be a remission but some say it could last nine month to have that back.
-I did that trial during holidays because of some reasons.
-45mg Nardil plus clonazepam would be the total orgasm killer for me (note only four weeks trial)sdb
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