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Posted by TylerJ on February 23, 2006, at 23:18:31
In reply to Re: Parnate is pretty Groovy!, posted by willyee on February 23, 2006, at 18:25:44
I totallty understand and agree. I'll keep you in my prayers my friend. Willyee, you're strong, so like you said, keep fighting the "Monster" (been there too many times myself) and I know somethings going to work for you soon. I say, try "the patch" and go from there-one thing at a time. And maybe later if you need to try something else try Parnate again and it might just work great for you when/if the time comes. Take care Willyee!
Tyler
Posted by TylerJ on February 23, 2006, at 23:24:33
In reply to Got that Parnate smile as well :-D, posted by JaclinHyde on February 23, 2006, at 17:59:46
JH, I forgot to mention that I'am very happy for you that Parnate is working for you too...Let's stay well!!
Best wishes,
Tyler
Posted by TylerJ on February 23, 2006, at 23:40:16
In reply to Question for Tyler ..... » TylerJ, posted by tepiaca on February 23, 2006, at 22:46:27
>
> Hi tyler , can you describe how was the first
> days on Parnate. Did you have some serious side
> effects ? How much time to really kick in? I mean
> when you said wow this Parnate is really helping
> me now.
> I appreciate your help
> TEPTep, The first days I felt nothing, I didn't feel anything til the 5th day on 40mgs (Just a little better mood) Then he upped the dose to 60mgs all in the morning (I'm a pretty big guy and have always need high doses for one reason or another) my third day at 60 about 11th day on Parnate and I felt noticably Better, and it kept getting a little better every day still on 60, I noticed I was becoming much more social, more positive and motivated, depression was gone, anxiety was gone-It is a "miracle drug" for me! II FEEL GOOD..,.AND IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME COMING!!! Only really bad side effect for me has been insomnia about every 3rd night I don't sleep at all-But me and my pdoc are working on this prob. Hey, I'd rather have insomnia than depression, social phobia,anxiety, etc.I wish you the very best Tep, and don't hesitate to contact me for more Questions/support. God Bless.
Tyler
Posted by tessellated on February 23, 2006, at 23:58:28
In reply to Re: Question for Tyler ..... » tepiaca, posted by TylerJ on February 23, 2006, at 23:40:16
Ty,
Don't know you.
But my best approach to sleep was to wear myself out.
Remeber high school?
After sports eating, showering, passing way out?
If your healthy enough build activity.
Physical activity into your day.
Tire yourself out physically and your mind will follow.However take care not to over do it.
Just make excercise part of the regime, whatever that is.
Swear, it is the best....Put money down on it.
tesl8ted
Posted by TylerJ on February 24, 2006, at 0:32:20
In reply to Re: Question for Tyler ....., posted by tessellated on February 23, 2006, at 23:58:28
That's a great idea. And I am definitely physically active when not severely depressed. I think I'll start tomorrow with a nice walk. Thanks for the advice.
Ty
Posted by JaclinHyde on February 24, 2006, at 13:25:49
In reply to Re: Got that Parnate smile as well :-D » JaclinHyde, posted by TylerJ on February 23, 2006, at 18:18:05
> Thanks Jaclin, you sound like a very nice person and with 25 yrs MAOI experience...Wow! I'll take any advice I can get from you please. And, what do you use for sleep, I'm taking Trazodone and it works ...okay, and sometimes not so okay! Take care!
>
> Tyler
Well thank you Tyler. Happy people are nice people, don't ya thiml? ;-) I take Trazodone as well for sleep. Works good. All the others couldn't put me to sleep without adding a Klonopin in the mix. Don't think about pooping (out...hehe) The MAOI's are the only drugs out there being used for depression and anxiety that doctors call a cure, not just a fix to hold you over until something better comes along. Here is an interesting, straightforward article on them....
http://www.healthyplace.com/Communities/
Depression/treatment/antidepressants/maoi.aspDid you know that there is a really great book abouut a mom's experience with her daughter on Nardil? It's called "You Mean I Don't Have To Feel This Way?" by Colette Dowling. Right now Amazon has one used for .51 It's very good and inspiring read.
Terri
Posted by TylerJ on February 24, 2006, at 14:07:05
In reply to Re: Got that Parnate smile as well :-D, posted by JaclinHyde on February 24, 2006, at 13:25:49
Thanks Terri for the great info and book, I'm definitely going to check both of them out. And you are so right, happy people are nice people :) I am so glad it's working for you too. Please stay in touch-you're very nice and sincere. And I promise to quit thing about "Poop-Out" :-) Take very good care and Keep feeling GOOD...It's so great to finally feel Good, damn good!!!
Ty
Posted by TylerJ on February 25, 2006, at 9:40:56
In reply to Re: Got that Parnate smile as well :-D, posted by JaclinHyde on February 24, 2006, at 13:25:49
Dear Terri,
Hope you are well. My pdoc increased my Trazodone a little and I have had 3 really good nights sleep in a row...feels great! I forgot that Life could be this good. Parnate's the med for me!! Hope wour still doing great also! Take care! :)Ty
Posted by ed_uk on February 25, 2006, at 13:49:09
In reply to Re: Parnate is pretty Groovy!, posted by TylerJ on February 23, 2006, at 17:51:26
Hi Tyler
>I am using Trazodone right now(pdocs 1st choice) It works well if I can FALL asleep, in other words it's good for once I can get to sleep keeping me asleep thru the nite but not good for putting me asleep.
You could try taking it earlier in the evening because it sometimes takes quite a while to 'kick in'. You could take it at about 8.30pm or something.
Regards
Ed
Posted by TylerJ on February 25, 2006, at 14:26:27
In reply to Re: Parnate is pretty Groovy! » TylerJ, posted by ed_uk on February 25, 2006, at 13:49:09
Thanks Ed, good idea...I'll try that tonight.
Ty
Posted by JaclinHyde on February 25, 2006, at 15:18:41
In reply to Re: Parnate is pretty Groovy! » ed_uk, posted by TylerJ on February 25, 2006, at 14:26:27
I know I will crash and burn tonight but oh well:-) It's almost like I don't want to waste a minute of this great feeling sleeping! ;-)
Posted by willyee on February 25, 2006, at 16:05:39
In reply to Up all night and still raring to go, posted by JaclinHyde on February 25, 2006, at 15:18:41
> I know I will crash and burn tonight but oh well:-) It's almost like I don't want to waste a minute of this great feeling sleeping! ;-)
I remember posting not too long ago maybe a week to the group about should i be worried that i found myself NOT WANTING to go to sleep,i was scared i was becomming maniac,well i doubt i was becomming maniac at all,but it was simply to much at the time,but regardless the week break was still nice.
Posted by TylerJ on February 25, 2006, at 16:22:33
In reply to Up all night and still raring to go, posted by JaclinHyde on February 25, 2006, at 15:18:41
Hey, I know that feeling - It's nice to feel so good, I'm feeling great today! My pdoc (Yesterday ) increased my Trazodone to 250-I know that's alot but I'm a pretty big guy, not fat just big :-) and anyway it worked really well last night and I didn't have those funky vivid dreams. I also take Benadryl with the traz, I take 2 pills i believe it's 50 mgs. Stay well girl.
Ty
Posted by tessellated on February 25, 2006, at 17:04:36
In reply to Up all night and still raring to go, posted by JaclinHyde on February 25, 2006, at 15:18:41
You guys are making me jealous.
I think not wanting to sleep to not waste life is a pretty good sign of remission.
Wanting to sleep all the time is bad bad sign, and a waste ultimately.
I took about almost 200mg trazadone last night and I think I'm noticing it's own AD effect. I think when I ad 5htp to it it induces the hypnagogic (half awake/asleep) state that's great for freaky *ss experiences.
Every time I took parnate I eliminated vast amounts of sleep.
The danger psychologically, which I found rather fascinating maybe even inspiring, was the way my unconscious/dream like visuals/thoughts would influence my conscious thought. Typically after about 48 hrs deprivation.Heck I pushed into 72 hours without sleep ever so often. That's when it definitely gets freaky. Though 36hrs awake 12hrs sleep always seemed the most appropriate since you don't miss a day that way. You could do a week of work in 2days. Then have 5 days off!!! Not for the weak of heart or peeps with significant others....
Do you guys get muscle soreness after those allnighters?
I'd often wake up feeling like i'd been lifting weights everytime.
Dunno if it was or wasn't due to increased physical activity...Thoughts??
Posted by TylerJ on February 25, 2006, at 19:00:08
In reply to Re: Up all night and still raring to go, posted by tessellated on February 25, 2006, at 17:04:36
Wanting to stay awake is awesome compared to wanting to sleep all day like I used to...i wanted an escape from my misery. I used to drink (I'm definitely an alcoholic,recovering that is-just about 2 yrs. of sobriety) I drank because the meds didn't work for me-it almost cost me my marriage-I don't know how my wife has put up with all my sh**, but she has, we've been married for 20 yrs. and have two wonderful sons one 7 the other 4.
As for the sore muscles, I'm 47 so I'm Gunna have some sore muscles regardless of what I do. :) I was in a bad care wreck about 24 yrs. ago and it really did a number on my neck and lower back( in case you're wondering there was alcohol involved ). So, yes I have a lot of aches and pains in my neck and back after a full night of work, but not really sore muscles.
In 25 yrs. Parnate is by far the best ad i've been on and i've been on nearly all of them. I can honestly say I feel awesome, best i've felt by far since i was a kid!!Tyler
Posted by tessellated on February 25, 2006, at 19:21:17
In reply to Re: Up all night and still raring to go » tessellated, posted by TylerJ on February 25, 2006, at 19:00:08
Ty,
Great to hear!
Especially when others in your family/friends/relationships feel the same.
Watch out not overdoing it. Don''t want no serious back injuries.
Not fun surgery.
I definitely sensed some form of specific muscle pain; i.e. lactic acid buildup, and wonder if its me or something more common.
Maybe worth starting new thread.
best,
8ed
Posted by TylerJ on February 25, 2006, at 19:26:08
In reply to Re: Up all night and still raring to go » tessellated, posted by TylerJ on February 25, 2006, at 19:00:08
That was supposed to be THERE WAS NO ALCOHOL INVOLED IN THE CAR WRECK.
Posted by tessellated on February 25, 2006, at 19:47:55
In reply to Re: Up all night and still raring to go » tessellated, posted by TylerJ on February 25, 2006, at 19:00:08
TY,
Crap, I thought it was a care wreck, like bad massage. :)
Dunno if its worth opening the pandoras box, but obviously whiplash aint' cool. Good to hear you feel like a kid in light of a freaking biaotch of an undertaking....
8ed
Posted by TylerJ on February 25, 2006, at 22:13:03
In reply to Re: Up all night and still raring to go, posted by tessellated on February 25, 2006, at 19:47:55
Geez what a dork...I get typing too fast and this is what happens bad CARE wreck, alcohol IS involved...yea, that's a bad message. :)
Ty
Posted by JaclinHyde on February 26, 2006, at 21:19:55
In reply to Re: Up all night and still raring to go, posted by tessellated on February 25, 2006, at 17:04:36
> Do you guys get muscle soreness after those allnighters?
> I'd often wake up feeling like i'd been lifting weights everytime.
> Dunno if it was or wasn't due to increased physical activity...
>
> Thoughts??I feel like that today but for me it is from the Trazodone. I take one white pill (low dose, don't remember exactly what it is) normally for sleep and last night I took an pill and a half. Today, my fingers, toes and shoulders are in such pain. Any else get that from Trazodone? It's like I spent the night punching and kicking someone (hubby is still alive and well :-)
JH
Posted by JaclinHyde on February 26, 2006, at 22:12:20
In reply to Re: Up all night and still raring to go » tessellated, posted by TylerJ on February 25, 2006, at 19:00:08
< As for the sore muscles, I'm 47 so I'm Gunna have some sore muscles regardless of what I do. :)
TylerHey Tyler, I have you beat by a year (I'm 48)
Respect your elders ;-)
Hey, Nardil (the first MAOI came out in 1959. So the drugs should respect us, lol.JH
Posted by TylerJ on February 27, 2006, at 8:33:40
In reply to Re: Up all night and still raring to go, posted by JaclinHyde on February 26, 2006, at 21:19:55
No, I really don't have any bad side effects with Traz and I'm on a pretty high dose. Can hardly believe it- last nite was the 5th good nite sleep in a row, I'm up at 6:00 am and ready to take on the world. :) I'm also ( probably repeating myself ) taking two benadryl and the Traz at bedtime-working like a charm so far. No hang-over, just darn good sleep.
You know, my wife is working on her RN degree, has about a year to go...anyway we had a long talk yesterday and she says I'm definietly not Manic...I know i'm not either but was good to get an outside opinion. She doe's say however that she can tell i'm a lot happier, a better husband / father, nicer,more social,and i have a lot of energy..good energy, not like nervous energy where a person can't sit still. She calls me " Mr. Clean " cause now that i'm well i'm doing so much more around the house...which she loves. :)Ty "Mr. Clean" :)
Posted by TylerJ on February 27, 2006, at 9:49:50
In reply to Re: Up all night and still raring to go, posted by JaclinHyde on February 26, 2006, at 22:12:20
I'll be 48 in May. Did you graduate h.s. in 1976? Do you have children? My wife is only 39 (I robbed the cradle) :), we have two wonderful boys, ages 7 and 4. I pray every day that they never suffer from any kind of mental illness in there lives! So far i haven't seen any signs from either of them.
Have a GROOOOOVY day JH!Ty :)
Posted by JaclinHyde on February 27, 2006, at 10:10:47
In reply to Re: Up all night and still raring to go » JaclinHyde, posted by TylerJ on February 27, 2006, at 9:49:50
> I'll be 48 in May. Did you graduate h.s. in 1976? Do you have children? My wife is only 39 (I robbed the cradle) :), we have two wonderful boys, ages 7 and 4. I pray every day that they never suffer from any kind of mental illness in there lives! So far i haven't seen any signs from either of them.
> Have a GROOOOOVY day JH!
>
> Ty :)Hey man, FAR OUT! Yes I graduated in 1976 and I have 3 boys ages 15, 13 and 10. My 10 year old is bipolar but very stable on abilify and trileptal. Abilify is a real magic bullet for a lot of kids. I live in Missouri (Lord help me) but I am from Brooklyn, NY. We moved here from Hawaii. Hubby was a submariner and he retired after 22 years in, from Hawaii.
Ahhhh memories......
JH
Posted by TylerJ on February 27, 2006, at 11:42:56
In reply to Re: Up all night and still raring to go, posted by JaclinHyde on February 27, 2006, at 10:10:47
> > I'll be 48 in May. Did you graduate h.s. in 1976? Do you have children? My wife is only 39 (I robbed the cradle) :), we have two wonderful boys, ages 7 and 4. I pray every day that they never suffer from any kind of mental illness in there lives! So far i haven't seen any signs from either of them.
> > Have a GROOOOOVY day JH!
> >
> > Ty :)
>
> Hey man, FAR OUT! Yes I graduated in 1976 and I have 3 boys ages 15, 13 and 10. My 10 year old is bipolar but very stable on abilify and trileptal. Abilify is a real magic bullet for a lot of kids. I live in Missouri (Lord help me) but I am from Brooklyn, NY. We moved here from Hawaii. Hubby was a submariner and he retired after 22 years in, from Hawaii.
>
> Ahhhh memories......
>
> JH
>
>
Far Freakin' out Man! :) I'm also a 76er. Wow, Hawaii-that must of been great! I live in Washington (eastern wash.) in a med. sized town called Kennewick, about 230 miles from Seattle...GO SEAHAWKS!! :) We like it here, not too big or too small. Weather is nice in summer, and not too cold in winter. "Kennewick" means Winter Paradise named by the Indians...oops, I mean Native Americans :). That's awesome about your husband-bet he has a great retirement package. Hey, take care girl..and keep feeling GROOOVY man, Far out!!! LOLTy
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