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Posted by tepiaca on February 6, 2006, at 17:37:04
Hello , Im gonna to start Parnate in a couple
of days. I mainly suffer from Social Phobia in
this moment.
Can you tell me what is the starting dose of
Parnate ?
Should I take it in the mornings? or split
in various doses.
What
I really appreciate your help brothersTEP
Posted by willyee on February 6, 2006, at 18:20:34
In reply to Parnate Question....., posted by tepiaca on February 6, 2006, at 17:37:04
Starting dose is between 10mg and 30 mg.A lot of people find it over stimulating when they first take it,if you do then just leave it at 10 and enjoy that.
Parnate seems to have a unique initia effect,at least for some,i remember my first day on it it was like someone gave me my life back,then soon after the initial kick of thd drug will fade,and youll probuably move up to 30 mg.
Again id go between 1 and 3 fdays seeing how just a 10 mg tab does for you.
Posted by TylerJ on February 6, 2006, at 19:41:29
In reply to Parnate Question....., posted by tepiaca on February 6, 2006, at 17:37:04
I'm starting Parnate in a couple of days myself so keep in touch and let me know how you're doing etc. Best wishes.
TylerJ
Posted by Phillipa on February 6, 2006, at 19:54:37
In reply to Re: Parnate Question....., posted by TylerJ on February 6, 2006, at 19:41:29
Tepi great news are you happy about it? Fondly, Phillipa
Posted by tepiaca on February 6, 2006, at 22:05:39
In reply to Re: Parnate Question....., posted by willyee on February 6, 2006, at 18:20:34
> Starting dose is between 10mg and 30 mg.A lot of people find it over stimulating when they first take it,if you do then just leave it at 10 and enjoy that.
>So I start on 10mg and wait what happen .... ok !
> Parnate seems to have a unique initia effect,at least for some,i remember my first day on it it was like someone gave me my life back,then soon after the initial kick of thd drug will fade,and youll probuably move up to 30 mg.
>Willie did you recover that effect at 30mg?
> Again id go between 1 and 3 fdays seeing how just a 10 mg tab does for you.Thanks bro....
question : do you have social phobia ? , are you currently on Parnate ? wich are the worst side effects of Parnate?
Posted by tepiaca on February 6, 2006, at 22:06:54
In reply to Re: Parnate Question....., posted by TylerJ on February 6, 2006, at 19:41:29
> I'm starting Parnate in a couple of days myself so keep in touch and let me know how you're doing etc. Best wishes.
>
> TylerJThats great. Have you been on another MAOI before?
What are you taking Parnate for?Tep
Posted by tepiaca on February 6, 2006, at 22:11:10
In reply to Re: Parnate Question....., posted by Phillipa on February 6, 2006, at 19:54:37
> Tepi great news are you happy about it? Fondly, Phillipa
Hi dear Phillipa I dont know how I feel. Its like taking the last option on the market , it´s scary but also I have some hope on it.
Love
tepi
Posted by willyee on February 6, 2006, at 23:15:22
In reply to Re: Parnate Question..... » willyee, posted by tepiaca on February 6, 2006, at 22:05:39
> > Starting dose is between 10mg and 30 mg.A lot of people find it over stimulating when they first take it,if you do then just leave it at 10 and enjoy that.
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> So I start on 10mg and wait what happen .... ok !
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> > Parnate seems to have a unique initia effect,at least for some,i remember my first day on it it was like someone gave me my life back,then soon after the initial kick of thd drug will fade,and youll probuably move up to 30 mg.
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> Willie did you recover that effect at 30mg?
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> > Again id go between 1 and 3 fdays seeing how just a 10 mg tab does for you.
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> Thanks bro....
> question : do you have social phobia ? , are you currently on Parnate ? wich are the worst side effects of Parnate?
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Well id be curious to see where your doc wants to start you,he might wanna start at 20,morninf afternoon.I just remember previous to parnate i had a draw full of ssris,so they are SOOO DIFFERENT that when i took the 10 mg,i had exper a different feel than any ssri,and it was incredable,my eyes light,i felt a jolt in my back,and i was motivated.
Unfortunatly no this particular feeling i think is just the maoi starting to work,it quickly within a week takes on a different feel,not to say a bad one of course.
However STill i dident have poop out problems until i was into my first year,so you should hopefully get a lot of free anti depressant time from it if it works,my advice,if u feel it work,leave it alone,dont augment it,dont say more is better,just enjoy it,youll have time later on cause unfortunatly parnate loves to poop out.
Your second question yess im on it still,5 years or so counting,chances are im either addicted,or i need it ,cant say cause i obviously seeked pills in the first place cause i dident feel ok.Nevertheless i feel my body having built a blockade to this drug,so for myself i have to struggle to make this drug work,to the extent i doubt you will,or at least u should not have too.
Currently im working on a combination that seems to be doing a lot of good,but im taking it slow,and careful.
Yess i have extreme social anxiety,i think most do,it seems like a hybrid cycle,depression feeds to anxiety,and then obsessive thoughts,mind racing and whatever else have you,they all work togther in a nice demonized circle to keep u in a rut.
But when parnate is at its absolute bet,you might be a little jittery but it prob will help with your social problems a bit.
Later on down the line youll prob look into adding a gaba med as youll notice parnate doesent help enough with social issues.
The one thing,and i said this earlier about parnate,even if it works half a- ,its the only med i know that if one is in a bed ridden,i wanna hurt myself,DANGEROUS gut wrenching depression,parnate seems to be a drug to at least drop u a rope when ur 20 feet down in that hole,5 years later its not pulling me up alone,but it still drops that rope when i feel that gut sickening depression,and has kept me home and not in a er room.But for me its time to move on,but failing terrably on all ssris,i mean faliling is being putting it lightly,well i dont have many options,but i am waiting for deprenyl the newest maoi to come out,im just glad as least parnate is there for now to keep me grounded.
Last i read either you or the other poster mentioned ur scared and this is ur last option,please dont be,get urself whatever to handle blood pressure control,and chances are you wont have any problems with this drug,its something to look forward too,not fear,your about to finaly have some dopamine back dont be frightened cause chances are you will feel better,minimal diet problems aside,this drug is FAR from a last resort,its a very effective medication.
Now if u know u are the one to come home at ngiht and drink a few beers every night then you know why ur worrying and thats something no one can help with,and no u shouldent go on a maoi.But if ur health is good to fair,youll prob have very very very little problems with this drug at all.
Side effects are Insomnia----STRONG
Heightened libido------Strong
Delayed orgasm-------Strong
Sign of life comming back into u,---hopefully strong
Posted by TylerJ on February 7, 2006, at 10:14:11
In reply to Re: Parnate Question..... » TylerJ, posted by tepiaca on February 6, 2006, at 22:06:54
I have treatment resistant depression and social phobia. I tried Parnate back in 1997 and it worked very well..it made me feel better than any AD I have ever taken before, and I've been on nearly everything, including Nardil. Parnate made me feel great, but unfortunately it's effectiveness didn't last. However, this time my pdoc and I are going to use a lot of augmentation strategies to hopefully keeping it working. I think your going to like the way it makes you feel and I do wish you all the best. Let's stay in touch, compare notes, etc. One thing Parnate is notorious for is insomnia so make sure your doc gives you something for insomnia. Good Luck! Tyler
Posted by TylerJ on February 7, 2006, at 10:30:20
In reply to Re: Parnate Question....., posted by willyee on February 6, 2006, at 23:15:22
Tepi,
Willyee is so right , please don't be afraid. If it effects you like it does me you'll love it...it's like WOW I never knew I could ever feel this good. The Challenge is to get this awesome drug to keep working. But like W said don't worry about that until you have to. I've got lot's of ideas/information on augmentation to share with you. I am determined to make it work this time...I've suffered enough and you have too-Hell we all have!!!Take care, Tyler
Posted by willyee on February 7, 2006, at 13:27:25
In reply to Re: Parnate Question....., posted by TylerJ on February 7, 2006, at 10:30:20
> Tepi,
> Willyee is so right , please don't be afraid. If it effects you like it does me you'll love it...it's like WOW I never knew I could ever feel this good. The Challenge is to get this awesome drug to keep working. But like W said don't worry about that until you have to. I've got lot's of ideas/information on augmentation to share with you. I am determined to make it work this time...I've suffered enough and you have too-Hell we all have!!!
>
> Take care, Tyler
Im kicking a---- and taking names with augmentation right now,but that has happened before,its very tricky,please if u are a parnate veteran with some good augmentation aresnal besides here of course please please get in touch with me,its crucuial we do this,either email brklyn234@yahoo.com......or messagner i prefer brklyn234 still,please as u know keeping parnate working is very hard lets make sure we are all on the same page,i too have many strategies.They say feb 26,but u know them,prob be a month later
Posted by ed_uk on February 7, 2006, at 14:09:26
In reply to Parnate Question....., posted by tepiaca on February 6, 2006, at 17:37:04
Hi Tepi
A suitable starting dose for Parnate would be 10mg in the morning, or 10mg in the morning and 10mg at lunchtime.
I would recommend taking a single 10mg dose in the morning for the first few days.
Eddy
Posted by forgetful mary on February 7, 2006, at 18:43:55
In reply to Re: Parnate Question....., posted by willyee on February 7, 2006, at 13:27:25
Just started parnate(2 months) -anxiety all of a sudden...and bad days mixed with good...What do you augment it with?? I may go back to the Nardil alto not as effective as the older version of Nardil.
Posted by TylerJ on February 8, 2006, at 13:33:48
In reply to Re: Parnate Question....., posted by forgetful mary on February 7, 2006, at 18:43:55
Well I'am certainly not a doc or even an expert for that matter-But to try to help I will tell you what my pdoc has told me and what I have read. Are you taking a benzo w/it? i,e. Klonopin, Xanax, Ativan etc. These and others help a lot with anxiety. As far as augmentation agents:
1. Lithium
2. Thyroid T3
3. Lamictal
4. Tegretol
5. Provigal
6. Pindolol
7. Keppra
8. Nortryptaline
9. Zyprexa
10. Rispirdol
11. Cyclert
12. Vivactil
14. Atenolol
15. B compex vitaminsThe are just suggestions, please talk to your pdoc before taking any of them even the vitamins. I'm just passing on to you what I've learned-just trying to help. Remember what works for one person may not work for another.
Best wishes, Tyler
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