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Posted by becksA on September 5, 2004, at 18:58:12
In regards to your last post, Maximus, about racing thoughts at bedtimne being something else, They are not all bad, i just can't stop thinking about things, good OR bad, one after another, as soon as my head hits the pillow, my mind is wide awake, thinking of so many thoughts they often don't finish, and overlap one another...over the years i've kind of trained my myself to focus on a calming thought....my favorite is a "marshmellow world" hehe, where everything looks pretty much just like one giant white sheet with light outlines...just calming. my mind really becomes like a movie screen when i try and go to sleep. it's only recently where it seems a bit more intense, past couple years. thoughts? i've always thought it to be my adhd.
Posted by 4WD on September 5, 2004, at 21:34:26
In reply to Maximus(OrAnybody)-Racing thoughts-bedtime, posted by becksA on September 5, 2004, at 18:58:12
> In regards to your last post, Maximus, about racing thoughts at bedtimne being something else, They are not all bad, i just can't stop thinking about things, good OR bad, one after another, as soon as my head hits the pillow, my mind is wide awake, thinking of so many thoughts they often don't finish, and overlap one another...over the years i've kind of trained my myself to focus on a calming thought....my favorite is a "marshmellow world" hehe, where everything looks pretty much just like one giant white sheet with light outlines...just calming. my mind really becomes like a movie screen when i try and go to sleep. it's only recently where it seems a bit more intense, past couple years. thoughts? i've always thought it to be my adhd.
Yep, know what you mean. I don't know what causes it - it was worse for me on Prozac and better on Effexor. What I do now is concentrate on some specific thing, very non -emotional thing, like trying to make a mental list of each food I ate that day. Not just "salad" but lettuce, carrot, cucumber, whatever. It's like a sort of meditation, makes my mind stop jumping around. Deep breathing/ counting is supposed to help also.
Posted by Maximus on September 5, 2004, at 22:15:33
In reply to Maximus(OrAnybody)-Racing thoughts-bedtime, posted by becksA on September 5, 2004, at 18:58:12
> In regards to your last post, Maximus, about racing thoughts at bedtimne being something else, They are not all bad, i just can't stop thinking about things, good OR bad, one after another, as soon as my head hits the pillow, my mind is wide awake, thinking of so many thoughts they often don't finish, and overlap one another...over the years i've kind of trained my myself to focus on a calming thought....my favorite is a "marshmellow world" hehe, where everything looks pretty much just like one giant white sheet with light outlines...just calming. my mind really becomes like a movie screen when i try and go to sleep. it's only recently where it seems a bit more intense, past couple years. thoughts? i've always thought it to be my adhd.
Hi there,
I think, even a doctor won't give you a DX via the net. However, it seems obvious to me (and others will tell..) that is a case related to anxiety. Bed, ritual, insomnia, fears, etc. 1+1 =2, isn't it? When high anxiety and/or panic occur, you may get racing heart, racing thoughts, etc. When your're experiencing fear you're pumping adrenaline so fast that you think you'll lose your mind, but you don't. And the final signature is that you seem to be settle like a clock. Moreover your anxiety is related to an event. By the way, ADHD has nothing to do with it. It's another beast, for others events, others reasons..
Of course your pdoc has in her/his possessions some informations we don't have. It might be a great help for yourself to re-challenge your DX with your pdoc, who knows?
Hoping this helps!
Posted by becksA on September 6, 2004, at 0:13:12
In reply to Re: Maximus(OrAnybody)-Racing thoughts-bedtime » becksA, posted by Maximus on September 5, 2004, at 22:15:33
oh ive totally got anxiety...possibly more, who knows. i have been diagnosed with social anxiety, currently fighting the cause with neurontin and risperdal, bout to up both doses on tues. thinking about asking pdoc for sleeping med at next appointment...advice on this?
Posted by Maximus on September 6, 2004, at 10:38:41
In reply to Re: Maximus(OrAnybody)-Racing thoughts-bedtime, posted by becksA on September 6, 2004, at 0:13:12
> oh ive totally got anxiety...possibly more, who knows. i have been diagnosed with social anxiety, currently fighting the cause with neurontin and risperdal, bout to up both doses on tues. thinking about asking pdoc for sleeping med at next appointment...advice on this?
Simply more Neurontin before bedtime? Probably the best first step.
More Risperdal? I do not know. Lactation and loss of libido are commons with Risperdal cause it raises prolactin.
Did you ever try Seroquel? It has a better side effect profile. It is sedating and has to be taken at bedtime. It works wonderfully.
Posted by Colleen D. on September 6, 2004, at 11:32:45
In reply to Maximus(OrAnybody)-Racing thoughts-bedtime, posted by becksA on September 5, 2004, at 18:58:12
at night. It's a tricyclic AD my doc prescribed to help me sleep. I take 50mg an hour before bedtime and it works very well. Good luck!
Colleen
PPD, GAD and OCD
225mg Effexor and 50mg Doxpein> In regards to your last post, Maximus, about racing thoughts at bedtimne being something else, They are not all bad, i just can't stop thinking about things, good OR bad, one after another, as soon as my head hits the pillow, my mind is wide awake, thinking of so many thoughts they often don't finish, and overlap one another...over the years i've kind of trained my myself to focus on a calming thought....my favorite is a "marshmellow world" hehe, where everything looks pretty much just like one giant white sheet with light outlines...just calming. my mind really becomes like a movie screen when i try and go to sleep. it's only recently where it seems a bit more intense, past couple years. thoughts? i've always thought it to be my adhd.
Posted by Phamos818 on September 11, 2004, at 3:42:13
In reply to Re: Maximus(OrAnybody)-Racing thoughts-bedtime » becksA, posted by Maximus on September 5, 2004, at 22:15:33
i wouldn't say that racing thoughts necessarily denote anxiety. if they aren't actually anxious thoughts, you know? i would tender a guess of rapid cycling bipolar II, where you get your hypomanic cycles at nighttime. you're the one who posted elsewhere about lithium vs. lamictal? i think lamictal would be a good choice. you can always take a big dose of a benzo at nighttime to dope you up, but that just causes more problems than it solves.
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