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Posted by Aurora1 on September 2, 2004, at 3:36:02
Has anyone heard of Referenced EEG to guide medication selection? I hear it involves getting a simple, awake, eyes closed digital EEG and then your pdoc gets a 2-page report listing the specific medications that have the highest probability of working for your. It compares your EEG to a normal database and a psychiatric database. I've heard of some people have had amazing results--eating disorders, treatment resistant depression (my case) and ADHD.... Has anyone here tried it or heard about it?
Posted by pablo1 on September 3, 2004, at 12:15:12
In reply to Referenced EEG to guide medication selection, posted by Aurora1 on September 2, 2004, at 3:36:02
I never heard of that but you will find a similar approach using brain scans at brainplace.com
Seems a very commonsense approach!
Posted by crazychickuk on September 4, 2004, at 19:46:28
In reply to Referenced EEG to guide medication selection, posted by Aurora1 on September 2, 2004, at 3:36:02
Where did you get this info from? i am interested to know... i know there is a kind of scan called a pet scan that can tell what part of your brain is depressed etc mostly used for severe skitsophrenics.. (sp)
Posted by Aurora1 on September 4, 2004, at 20:50:20
In reply to Re: Referenced EEG to guide medication selection, posted by crazychickuk on September 4, 2004, at 19:46:28
> Where did you get this info from? i am interested to know... i know there is a kind of scan called a pet scan that can tell what part of your brain is depressed etc mostly used for severe skitsophrenics.. (sp)
I heard at Monte Nido, a high end eating disorder clinic, they do it on every patient and have great results. I just Googled their webpage, montenido.com, and they advertise it on their home page. I'll just copy it for you here:
"g) An Innovative Approach to Medication Treatment: rEEGMedication treatment can often be a disheartening process for many patients with eating disorders. Often they have been put on a number of different medications but they are still suffering. The problem is that psychiatric treatment is generally a trial-and-error process that is often lengthy, costly, and unsatisfactory in its outcome.
Monte Nido offers a different approach to medication treatment. Our treatment approach is based upon a technology called referenced EEG
(rEEG), which now makes it possible to base treatment on objective, physical measurement of brain activity. Dr. Hamlin Emory, one of the
founders of this technology, has been using rEEG at Monte Nido for a number of years with great success. rEEG characterizes brain electrical
activity along a large number of measures. A patient is then compared to thousands of patients in a large database of medication treatment
and outcomes. Comparing prospective patients to others with similar EEG measurements with known medication treatment outcomes allows one to predict to which medications a prospective patient will respond. Actual physical measurement determines treatment.rEEG has guided the treatment of thousands of patients. In addition, the scientists studying rEEG have demonstrated its effectiveness in blinded and unblinded prospective trials with treatment-refractory patients. In one study, 86% of refractory patients significantly improved with rEEG guided treatment as compared to 17% of patients treated by standard, psychiatric medication practice. In another study of 100 patients, EEG markers correctly predicted treatment outcome 87% of the time.
Monte Nido’s own results with the use of rEEG are equally impressive.
For additional information on the rEEG - please visit www.cnsresponse.com
For more information on this topic please see the section titled, Frequently Asked Questions (FAQS)"
I don't have an eating disorder, I have depression--it's an atypical type and I'm not real happy with the medication results. Maybe I'll give them a call and ask where I can get this done in my city. Anyone else heard anything about rEEG?
Posted by crazychickuk on September 6, 2004, at 9:23:33
In reply to Re: Referenced EEG to guide medication selection » crazychickuk, posted by Aurora1 on September 4, 2004, at 20:50:20
Plse do let me know.. wonder if its available in the uk..
Posted by pablo1 on September 6, 2004, at 9:56:53
In reply to Re: Referenced EEG to guide medication selection, posted by crazychickuk on September 6, 2004, at 9:23:33
Here's a clinic in Southern California:
http://www.drhamlinemory.com/note.htm
"Our patented, therapeutic rEEG method has been licensed to Central Nervous System Response, Inc. (CNSR), a medical information technology company. CNSR has conducted a successful pilot program in Atlanta, Georgia "and another link:
Abstracts from the International Society for Neuronal Regulation
http://www.isnr.org/2004/papers2004.htmReferenced EEG - A Database of Medication Response (R/C)
Daniel A. Hoffman, MD
Neuro-Therapy Clinic, P.C., Greenwood Village, COIntegrative Clinical Neuroscience (R/C)
"Predicting and monitoring response to pharmacologic intervention using EEG technology is an example of the interdisciplinary approach. The work pioneered by Suffin and Emory (1995), along with more recent work by Leuchter, Cook, Morgan, Witte, and Abrams (2002), Iosifescu et al. (2004) and others, documents the utility of neurophysiologically-based selection of psychoactive medication, as well as in detecting and monitoring neurophysiological response prior to behavioral manifestation."
Preliminary Data from Comparison of Electrophysiology and Cognitive Profile of 50 ADHD Subjects to the International Brain Database: Implications for Treatment Predictive Validity and Individualized Treatment (R/C)
Posted by pablo1 on September 6, 2004, at 10:08:57
In reply to Referenced EEG to guide medication selection, posted by pablo1 on September 6, 2004, at 9:56:53
Also from the above link, a list of neurofeedback specialists in your area:
http://www.isnr.org/newsplus/isnrlist.htm
although usually it's used for treatment without medication... and here's a page that discusses that approach with some QEEG colored brain maps explaining how that works:
http://www.brainwavecenter.com/imaging/map.htm
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