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Posted by KimberlyDi on January 15, 2004, at 12:15:53
*Clausterphobic in crowds and public places
*Irritability with kids
*Impatience
*Anger at co-workers for always complaining & whining
*Defensive
*High/low/high/low mood swings in short periods of time
*Mental shutdowns (a wall blocking problem-solving thoughts) at the slightest obstacles at work.
*Frustration
*Shame at earlier outbursts, wonder why so angry.I've run out of options it seems on generic depression/anxiety AD's. I hate going to the pdoc for my next appointment knowing that imipramine isn't helping much and that she'll probably up the dosage.
KDi in TX
Posted by Angielala on January 15, 2004, at 12:51:42
In reply to What are these symptoms?, posted by KimberlyDi on January 15, 2004, at 12:15:53
Perhaps change your doc, is that possible?
This is just my opinion.... but, if you are only on an AD and have tried them all, maybe the AD is pushing you into these episodes of irritability, impatience, etc.
This is how I was diagnosed with Bipolar- the fact that the ADs sent me into a state of just being pissy (not depression, but just indignace for EVERYTHING, like road rage and everything you mentioned below). I'm in no way saying you are Bipolar, though you can never know. I jsut know that wrong ADs and wrong dosages can make you feel this way.
I had to put my foot down in the doc office and said, "It's been too long, nothing has helped- we need a different approach" She disagreed and wanted to up what I was on then (Zoloft) and then gave me a downer (BuSpar). Didn't work, just added to everything. So I changed docs and after a LOT of honest discussion, BP was diagnosised.
Don't be afraid to tell your doctor no, even if s/he swears it's going to probably help. I let my doc know that it takes a lot of experimenting to get the right balance, but I told her I wasn't a damn guinee pig either.
> *Clausterphobic in crowds and public places
> *Irritability with kids
> *Impatience
> *Anger at co-workers for always complaining & whining
> *Defensive
> *High/low/high/low mood swings in short periods of time
> *Mental shutdowns (a wall blocking problem-solving thoughts) at the slightest obstacles at work.
> *Frustration
> *Shame at earlier outbursts, wonder why so angry.
>
> I've run out of options it seems on generic depression/anxiety AD's. I hate going to the pdoc for my next appointment knowing that imipramine isn't helping much and that she'll probably up the dosage.
>
>
> KDi in TX
>
Posted by KimberlyDi on January 15, 2004, at 14:35:40
In reply to Re: What are these symptoms?, posted by Angielala on January 15, 2004, at 12:51:42
> Perhaps change your doc, is that possible?
I should have added additional information but my hubby was heading out to lunch and I wanted to go with...
I've tried alot of types of AD's it seems...
Zoloft (did nothing for me)
Prozac (made me crazier)
Paxil (helpful for a few years)
Wellbutrin (helpful for a few years)
Effexor + Strattera (GREAT but blood pressure went too high)
Imipramine (100mg calms me down some, have to take it at night, not much help with depression)These anxious feelings I'm having right now are familiar, because in-between AD's I've gone years without... and these feelings are what always drives me back to trying an AD.
Paxil isn't an option because it kills my sex drive and my marriage is suffering already. I can't go back to Wellbutrin because I fit into the class of people who have a higher risk of seizures. And the Effexor was perfect, but had a bad effect on my heart (with and without the Strattera).
> This is just my opinion.... but, if you are only on an AD and have tried them all, maybe the AD is pushing you into these episodes of irritability, impatience, etc.
>
> This is how I was diagnosed with Bipolar- the fact that the ADs sent me into a state of just being pissy (not depression, but just indignace for EVERYTHING, like road rage and everything you mentioned below). I'm in no way saying you are Bipolar, though you can never know. I jsut know that wrong ADs and wrong dosages can make you feel this way.
>
> I had to put my foot down in the doc office and said, "It's been too long, nothing has helped- we need a different approach" She disagreed and wanted to up what I was on then (Zoloft) and then gave me a downer (BuSpar). Didn't work, just added to everything. So I changed docs and after a LOT of honest discussion, BP was diagnosised.
>
> Don't be afraid to tell your doctor no, even if s/he swears it's going to probably help. I let my doc know that it takes a lot of experimenting to get the right balance, but I told her I wasn't a damn guinee pig either.Thanks for your reply. I never believed I was Bi-Polar but I haven't done research on it anyways. I know there are periods of time where I am irrationally happy which I've learned has led to a severe depression episode. I try to hold myself back on the happy feelings now to avoid a severe crash.
I guess I'm disallusioned with finding a drug combo that worked. It kicked butt! But the same combo could kill me and pdoc took me off of it.
Thanks again,
KDi in TX
> > *Clausterphobic in crowds and public places
> > *Irritability with kids
> > *Impatience
> > *Anger at co-workers for always complaining & whining
> > *Defensive
> > *High/low/high/low mood swings in short periods of time
> > *Mental shutdowns (a wall blocking problem-solving thoughts) at the slightest obstacles at work.
> > *Frustration
> > *Shame at earlier outbursts, wonder why so angry.
> >
> > I've run out of options it seems on generic depression/anxiety AD's. I hate going to the pdoc for my next appointment knowing that imipramine isn't helping much and that she'll probably up the dosage.
> >
> >
> > KDi in TX
> >
>
>
Posted by Angielala on January 15, 2004, at 14:59:35
In reply to Re: What are these symptoms? » Angielala, posted by KimberlyDi on January 15, 2004, at 14:35:40
Do some research about BP- jsut for the hey of it. If you feel as though a lot of what they explain hits close to home, dont' be afraid to talk to a doc about it. If it is the case, all you may need is a mood stabilizer or something to help balance.
> > Perhaps change your doc, is that possible?
>
> I should have added additional information but my hubby was heading out to lunch and I wanted to go with...
>
> I've tried alot of types of AD's it seems...
> Zoloft (did nothing for me)
> Prozac (made me crazier)
> Paxil (helpful for a few years)
> Wellbutrin (helpful for a few years)
> Effexor + Strattera (GREAT but blood pressure went too high)
> Imipramine (100mg calms me down some, have to take it at night, not much help with depression)
>
> These anxious feelings I'm having right now are familiar, because in-between AD's I've gone years without... and these feelings are what always drives me back to trying an AD.
>
> Paxil isn't an option because it kills my sex drive and my marriage is suffering already. I can't go back to Wellbutrin because I fit into the class of people who have a higher risk of seizures. And the Effexor was perfect, but had a bad effect on my heart (with and without the Strattera).
>
> > This is just my opinion.... but, if you are only on an AD and have tried them all, maybe the AD is pushing you into these episodes of irritability, impatience, etc.
> >
> > This is how I was diagnosed with Bipolar- the fact that the ADs sent me into a state of just being pissy (not depression, but just indignace for EVERYTHING, like road rage and everything you mentioned below). I'm in no way saying you are Bipolar, though you can never know. I jsut know that wrong ADs and wrong dosages can make you feel this way.
> >
> > I had to put my foot down in the doc office and said, "It's been too long, nothing has helped- we need a different approach" She disagreed and wanted to up what I was on then (Zoloft) and then gave me a downer (BuSpar). Didn't work, just added to everything. So I changed docs and after a LOT of honest discussion, BP was diagnosised.
> >
> > Don't be afraid to tell your doctor no, even if s/he swears it's going to probably help. I let my doc know that it takes a lot of experimenting to get the right balance, but I told her I wasn't a damn guinee pig either.
>
> Thanks for your reply. I never believed I was Bi-Polar but I haven't done research on it anyways. I know there are periods of time where I am irrationally happy which I've learned has led to a severe depression episode. I try to hold myself back on the happy feelings now to avoid a severe crash.
>
> I guess I'm disallusioned with finding a drug combo that worked. It kicked butt! But the same combo could kill me and pdoc took me off of it.
>
> Thanks again,
> KDi in TX
>
> > > *Clausterphobic in crowds and public places
> > > *Irritability with kids
> > > *Impatience
> > > *Anger at co-workers for always complaining & whining
> > > *Defensive
> > > *High/low/high/low mood swings in short periods of time
> > > *Mental shutdowns (a wall blocking problem-solving thoughts) at the slightest obstacles at work.
> > > *Frustration
> > > *Shame at earlier outbursts, wonder why so angry.
> > >
> > > I've run out of options it seems on generic depression/anxiety AD's. I hate going to the pdoc for my next appointment knowing that imipramine isn't helping much and that she'll probably up the dosage.
> > >
> > >
> > > KDi in TX
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
Posted by Eddie Sylvano on January 16, 2004, at 14:35:49
In reply to What are these symptoms?, posted by KimberlyDi on January 15, 2004, at 12:15:53
> *Clausterphobic in crowds and public places
> *Irritability with kids
> *Impatience
> *Anger at co-workers for always complaining & whining
> *Defensive
> *High/low/high/low mood swings in short periods of time
> *Mental shutdowns (a wall blocking problem-solving thoughts) at the slightest obstacles at work.
> *Frustration
> *Shame at earlier outbursts, wonder why so angry.
--------------That sounds very much like my younger brother, the poster child for ADHD.
Some info... http://www.addresources.org/article_expand.php
Posted by KimberlyDi on January 16, 2004, at 16:18:42
In reply to Re: What are these symptoms? » KimberlyDi, posted by Eddie Sylvano on January 16, 2004, at 14:35:49
Thanks for that link. The ADHD-inattentive type seems to describe me. I had some success on Strattera while on Effexor but we dropped both because of blood pressure problems (plus financial reasons, neither drug was on the preferred list covered by low co-pay).
I'm majorly crashing at work. I meet my pdoc in 2 weeks and I'll bring this up to her. Maybe Strattera alone will help me with something else to augment for the anxiety.
Thanks again.
KDi in TX
> > *Clausterphobic in crowds and public places
> > *Irritability with kids
> > *Impatience
> > *Anger at co-workers for always complaining & whining
> > *Defensive
> > *High/low/high/low mood swings in short periods of time
> > *Mental shutdowns (a wall blocking problem-solving thoughts) at the slightest obstacles at work.
> > *Frustration
> > *Shame at earlier outbursts, wonder why so angry.
> --------------
>
> That sounds very much like my younger brother, the poster child for ADHD.
> Some info... http://www.addresources.org/article_expand.php
Posted by Asian Girl on January 17, 2004, at 6:02:18
In reply to What are these symptoms?, posted by KimberlyDi on January 15, 2004, at 12:15:53
some one post this link here a while ago :
http://www.healthyplace.com/site/tests/psychological.asp#intelligence
I don't remember who did, He or she saved my life. After I did the self ADD test. I went to my famliy docotor ( because my Psydoctor want put me on ECT. He said he is run out of meds for treating me with Bi-Polor, Depression, Anxiaty )
My family doctor priscrbed me Addrall 20mg xr, once a day. I felt great in the first day I took Addrall, I feel I become a better person. I'm more patient, calm, happy ( not happier as I never feel happy before) , can focus to do things, can get along with others a lot better.I hope you have good luck as I do. ( I have been in hell in last a few years. Psy docotor wrongly diagnozd me , and made me took wrong meds for a long time.)
P.S. I also took klonopin 1.5mg a day.
Posted by femlite on January 17, 2004, at 13:46:54
In reply to What are these symptoms?, posted by KimberlyDi on January 15, 2004, at 12:15:53
Just my 2 bits
Is there any possibility of post trauma?
Im am ADD compounded by BP II and PSTD.
Makes for a very complicated picture.
I have been resisting lithium but have started it out of desperation. I have little success with the ADs Ive tried. They help my depression but trigger cycles.
I am taking provigil right now. Seems good so far. Though stims help my focus, they seem to increase my irritability.Speaking for myself but the symptoms of
*Defensivness
*Clausterphobic in crowds and public places
*Anger at co-workers for always complaining & whining
that you list are related to PSTD for me.My response to fear or rejection is anger. Feeling overwhelmed is a fearful feeling for me. Feeling out of control of my enviornment or the stimuli around me can make me panic, from deep rooted fears. Out of a deeply rooted urge to defend my self, i burst out with anger. It has become a knee jerk response and habbit, a form of self preservation that has long outlived its usefulness.
A mood stabilizer can help blunt deep and disturbing emotions, but if there is truama at the root of it, therapy is probalby essential. I have not wanted to have any therapy that provoke my trauma. But I think I have found one I feel safe with called EMDR. I have only had one visit but if you are interested I will report any progress.
all the best to you
> *Clausterphobic in crowds and public places
> *Irritability with kids
> *Impatience
> *Anger at co-workers for always complaining & whining
> *Defensive
> *High/low/high/low mood swings in short periods of time
> *Mental shutdowns (a wall blocking problem-solving thoughts) at the slightest obstacles at work.
> *Frustration
> *Shame at earlier outbursts, wonder why so angry.
>
> I've run out of options it seems on generic depression/anxiety AD's. I hate going to the pdoc for my next appointment knowing that imipramine isn't helping much and that she'll probably up the dosage.
>
>
> KDi in TX
>
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