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Posted by migration on December 4, 2003, at 10:27:34
hi everyone. i am new here. i have had social anxiety for the last 7 years. i have tried zoloft, paxil, effexor, lexapro, neurontin, xanax, klonopin, inderal...and none have worked. i have heard great success stories from people on nardil, but whenever i suggest this to a doctor he refuses to prescribe it to me because it's "dangerous." does anyone know how i can find a doctor that prescribes maoi's? i don't see the use in trying SSRI's over and over if they keep failing.
Posted by enola on December 4, 2003, at 15:38:23
In reply to nardil, posted by migration on December 4, 2003, at 10:27:34
> hi everyone. i am new here. i have had social anxiety for the last 7 years. i have tried zoloft, paxil, effexor, lexapro, neurontin, xanax, klonopin, inderal...and none have worked. i have heard great success stories from people on nardil, but whenever i suggest this to a doctor he refuses to prescribe it to me because it's "dangerous." does anyone know how i can find a doctor that prescribes maoi's? i don't see the use in trying SSRI's over and over if they keep failing.
> Don't worry, they ARE out there! And guess what -- with your history of trying all those different meds and your social anxiety, you are a perfect candidate to try Nardil. I think you should call various psychiatrists until you find one who will prescribe an MAOi for you. That 'dangerous' stuff is crap. Nardil saved my life when nothing else worked, and if there are certain foods I can't eat and drugs I'm not allowed to take, so be it. It is WORTH IT! Where are you posting from? I'm in the SF bay area, CA, if you're around here I might be able to help you find a doc.
Posted by cosis on December 4, 2003, at 16:02:56
In reply to nardil, posted by migration on December 4, 2003, at 10:27:34
> hi everyone. i am new here. i have had social anxiety for the last 7 years. i have tried zoloft, paxil, effexor, lexapro, neurontin, xanax, klonopin, inderal...and none have worked. i have heard great success stories from people on nardil, but whenever i suggest this to a doctor he refuses to prescribe it to me because it's "dangerous." does anyone know how i can find a doctor that prescribes maoi's? i don't see the use in trying SSRI's over and over if they keep failing.
Dangerous my ass!!! He just doesn't want to be help responsible if a rare occurence would happen. Nardil saved me also - I know a doctor in the Kentucky area who will prescribe it...
Posted by migration on December 4, 2003, at 16:16:24
In reply to Re: nardil, posted by enola on December 4, 2003, at 15:38:23
> > Don't worry, they ARE out there! And guess what -- with your history of trying all those different meds and your social anxiety, you are a perfect candidate to try Nardil. I think you should call various psychiatrists until you find one who will prescribe an MAOi for you. That 'dangerous' stuff is crap. Nardil saved my life when nothing else worked, and if there are certain foods I can't eat and drugs I'm not allowed to take, so be it. It is WORTH IT! Where are you posting from? I'm in the SF bay area, CA, if you're around here I might be able to help you find a doc.
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thank you. i will try calling around. i live in the memphis, tn area. the psychologists i've seen didn't know how to help either. it seems no one knows anything about social anxiety around here!
Posted by migration on December 4, 2003, at 16:27:26
In reply to Re: nardil, posted by cosis on December 4, 2003, at 16:02:56
> Dangerous my ass!!! He just doesn't want to be help responsible if a rare occurence would happen. Nardil saved me also - I know a doctor in the Kentucky area who will prescribe it...
>exactly.. i've seen about 4 psychiatrists so far and everytime i've mentioned nardil they immediately refused. i'm in the memphis area. hopefully i will come across a psychiatrist in the know about social anxiety. last one told me my social fears would go away on their own with no kind of treatment at all!
Posted by cosis on December 4, 2003, at 17:15:45
In reply to Re: nardil, posted by migration on December 4, 2003, at 16:27:26
> > Dangerous my ass!!! He just doesn't want to be help responsible if a rare occurence would happen. Nardil saved me also - I know a doctor in the Kentucky area who will prescribe it...
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> exactly.. i've seen about 4 psychiatrists so far and everytime i've mentioned nardil they immediately refused. i'm in the memphis area. hopefully i will come across a psychiatrist in the know about social anxiety. last one told me my social fears would go away on their own with no kind of treatment at all!
haha I would like to meet that guy..........
Posted by ace on December 4, 2003, at 20:03:28
In reply to Re: nardil, posted by migration on December 4, 2003, at 16:27:26
> exactly.. i've seen about 4 psychiatrists so far and everytime i've mentioned nardil they immediately refused.That's absurd. Nardil is NOT dangerous. Stick to the diet (which is hardly anything in my experience) and you'll be right. Find another doctor and show them your educated about Nardil. And with regard to these 4 others doctors- when you finally get on Nardil tell 'em what a life-saver it is and how there are no problems- that will teach 'em! Oh, yeah, call 'em dorks too!
last one told me my social fears would go away on their own with no kind of treatment at all!That is not always correct by a long shot. For a doctor to say that is grossly negligent.
Posted by cubbybear on December 6, 2003, at 0:40:53
In reply to Re: nardil » migration, posted by ace on December 4, 2003, at 20:03:28
IT INFURIATES ME! The whole miserable bunch of them--drug companies and the doctors who cowtow to them--I firmly believe that they're all out to make MAOI drugs extinct, to take away from US what is not earning any money for THEM. Knowing that only a small percentage of ADs prescribed today are MAOIs, I'd say that the time is ripe for us to start screaming to the FDA about any doctor's unwillingness to prescribe Nardil or Parnate, especially when the patient requests it.
Just because the doctor hasn't DONE anything wrong, (like operate on the wrong leg), it's what they HAVEN'T done that is negligent and life-threatening.
I know darn well that Parnate is the only AD that will appropriately work for me, as I've been taking it for nearly 20 years. I live overseas where it is not available. Once a year, I have to visit the U.S. to get it, and have been fortunate enough to have my former psychiatrist in New York write a prescription for it and mail it to my family in Phoenix. But, I dread the day when he will be unavailable and I will be compelled to get an Rx from someone else.
Parnate and Nardil are NOT dangerous when used properly. Crossing a busy thoroughfare or driving while using a cell phone are a lot more dangerous than taking Parnate or Nardil. We are the ones who must unite to stop this concerted medical establishment conspiracy to do away with the MAOIs before it's too late.
Posted by gardenergirl on December 6, 2003, at 11:42:44
In reply to nardil, posted by migration on December 4, 2003, at 10:27:34
> hi everyone. i am new here. i have had social anxiety for the last 7 years. i have tried zoloft, paxil, effexor, lexapro, neurontin, xanax, klonopin, inderal...and none have worked. i have heard great success stories from people on nardil, but whenever i suggest this to a doctor he refuses to prescribe it to me because it's "dangerous." does anyone know how i can find a doctor that prescribes maoi's? i don't see the use in trying SSRI's over and over if they keep failing.
I too am new here. I have been struggling with atypical depression for years. Over the past decade I have been on and off of different SSRI's and Wellbutrin, but nothing was really helpful. My psychologist was the one who finally diagnosed me with atypical depression due to the following: high sensitivity to rejection, leaden paralysis type feeling (I just couldn't get out of bed), and excessive sleep (versus insomnia, which is more likely in major depression). This psychologist told me that MAOI's were a very effective treatment for this type of dep. I had similar worries about the restrictions and possible consequences of this drug. I convinced my primary care doc (helps to be a clinical psych. graduate student; he eventually realized I know what I am talking about) that I wanted to try this. While waiting for the Celexa to wash out for two weeks I "practiced" the diet to see if I could really do it. It's really not that difficult. The nardil feels like a miracle drug for me, as I am both a new person and back to my old self. It's definitely worth it to me, and I am lucky in that my primary care doc is a bit of a pushover once you get past his arrogance. Good luck to you.
Posted by ace on December 7, 2003, at 22:25:08
In reply to nardil, posted by migration on December 4, 2003, at 10:27:34
i don't see the use in trying SSRI's over and over if they keep failing.
That's a very good and common-sensical point. Pity Dr.'s couldn't see that!
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