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Posted by Bobby M on October 31, 2003, at 21:45:37
Will Didrex (diet pill) tapering ease Provigil withdrawl? Thanks. I know they're both dopamenergic.
Posted by Clayton on November 1, 2003, at 1:43:45
In reply to Provigil withdrawl, posted by Bobby M on October 31, 2003, at 21:45:37
Provigil literature claims it is NOT dopameneric (hence, not like amphetamines) but more noradernergic. Literature also claims there is no tolerance and withdrawl.
You are freightening me! I take it and it helps for cognitive function, mood and drive. There is no high and almost no subjective effect. Are you sure about your info?
Posted by Bobby M on November 1, 2003, at 5:13:19
In reply to Re: What?? Provigil withdrawl, posted by Clayton on November 1, 2003, at 1:43:45
> Provigil literature claims it is NOT dopameneric (hence, not like amphetamines) but more noradernergic. Literature also claims there is no tolerance and withdrawl.
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> You are freightening me! I take it and it helps for cognitive function, mood and drive. There is no high and almost no subjective effect. Are you sure about your info?Yes I am a health-care professional and took it as prescribed, and it is somewhat dopamenergic and if you read the PDR can cause euphoria.
Posted by Clayton on November 1, 2003, at 6:24:51
In reply to Provigil withdrawl, posted by Bobby M on October 31, 2003, at 21:45:37
Didrex is speed, pure and simple. It's the most closely related of the common diet pills to amphetamine. Taking Didrex to get off Provigil is like using a nuke to kill an ant. You will have a ten fold bigger problem getting of the damn Didrex than you had with Provigil. It is precisely the wrong thing to do. Do a search on "dopamenergics". You will find you don't have a lot of appealing options. If you want to buy a drug that makes Provigil look really rock bottom dirt cheap, try apomorphine. Or just touggh it out...probably a week at most with the first three days being toughest. I just went off 400mg/day of Provigil (ran out of money - damn!)with no depressive side-effects at all. Nothing. I lost the benefits (that included antidepressiant action but nothing akin to euphoria). There is another user in this thread with a different opinion and experience. Everyone reacts differently to a drug. I'll bet it's easier for you than getting off coffee. Best wishes!
Posted by Clayton on November 1, 2003, at 6:40:38
In reply to Re: What?? Provigil withdrawl, posted by Bobby M on November 1, 2003, at 5:13:19
Okay, everyone reacts differently to a drug. I had a very mild euphoria for about two days and then just ongoing benefits. I just came off 400mg/day with no distress whatsoever. (I should let you know I take Paxil and Remaron). You could try bromctipton, yohimbe or carboline. See
http://bnf.org/bnf/bnf/current/doc/41001i554.htm for a list of dopamenergics. Memantine is relatively affordable. You'll have to check the half-life, sirim levels, efficacies an doses. Anyway, as a pro, you know that Didrex is a sympathomimetic which is so close to amphetamine that the difference hardly matters. And Didrex is the most speed-like of all diet pills. That's a step backward.
Posted by Clayton on November 1, 2003, at 6:47:34
In reply to Re: What?? Provigil withdrawl, posted by Bobby M on November 1, 2003, at 5:13:19
And while we're at it...I just tried Penterdiazipine tapering to get off Ritalin. I should have just tapered the Ritalin. It was a stupip idea without efficacy.
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