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Posted by galkeepinon on September 18, 2003, at 6:20:38
In reply to Re: Topamax: Joint Pain????, posted by rainy on September 18, 2003, at 6:16:05
>>>Anybody had hairloss on lamictal, 250 mgs and lower? This is for BP II, diagnosed two months ago. I'd rather lose weight than hair!
YES!! My hair loss started when I first started on Lamictal (50mg) a while back, I am only at 25mg now after starting it over a month ago. I noticed if I brush my hair out more~the hairloss doesn't seem to be bad. Also, taking vitamins surely might help?
It's hard to see literally clumps of hair in my drain or shower after washing my hair *yikes*
Posted by rainy on September 18, 2003, at 6:26:15
In reply to Re: Topamax: Joint Pain???? » The Lorax, posted by galkeepinon on September 17, 2003, at 14:54:56
had pain in L hip for about 2 weeks but it seems to have gone away--I thought I'd injured it somehow. It felt like it had been dislocated. Main problem for me is continuing hair loss despite tapering Topamax (BPII) from 300 mgs to 150. Does it stop? I'm blaming it on Lamictal, because hair started coming out at Lam. 250. What about wellbutrin, lamictal and serzone? Anybody have experience?
Posted by galkeepinon on September 18, 2003, at 6:42:15
In reply to Re: Topamax: Joint Pain???? » galkeepinon, posted by rainy on September 18, 2003, at 6:26:15
to be honest, my hair hasn't stopped falling out since starting Lamictal.
But, it's probably because I don't have the best nutrition. Prozac never caused my hair to fall out. I've never tried Wellbutrin long enough to see.
I can talk the talk but it's hard for me to walk the walk.
Hang in there!> had pain in L hip for about 2 weeks but it seems to have gone away--I thought I'd injured it somehow. It felt like it had been dislocated. Main problem for me is continuing hair loss despite tapering Topamax (BPII) from 300 mgs to 150. Does it stop? I'm blaming it on Lamictal, because hair started coming out at Lam. 250. What about wellbutrin, lamictal and serzone? Anybody have experience?
Posted by rainy on September 18, 2003, at 6:58:34
In reply to Re: Topamax: Joint Pain???? » rainy, posted by galkeepinon on September 18, 2003, at 6:42:15
> >Thanks for your response. I have started selenium and zinc supplements as well as the usual mutilviatmin. Appetites's back so nutrition is OK. Also somebidt said she brushed her hair out and that seemed to help--I've been tentative about that. The guy who'z cut my hair twice said to rinse with cold water.
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Posted by JaneB on September 18, 2003, at 7:08:47
In reply to Re: Topamax: Joint Pain????, posted by rainy on September 18, 2003, at 6:16:05
Also, losing hair but blaming Lamictal. Anybody had hairloss on lamictal, 250 mgs and lower? This is for BP II, diagnosed two months ago. I'd rather lose weight than hair!
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Jane
Posted by JaneB on September 18, 2003, at 7:10:26
In reply to Re: Topamax: Joint Pain???? » galkeepinon, posted by rainy on September 18, 2003, at 6:24:57
Posted by JaneB on September 18, 2003, at 7:12:48
In reply to Re: Topamax: Joint Pain????, posted by rainy on September 18, 2003, at 6:58:34
Lexapro was one AD that did not cause hair loss for me. Other problems--but not hair loss.
Jane
Posted by galkeepinon on September 18, 2003, at 13:33:54
In reply to Re: Topamax: Joint Pain????, posted by rainy on September 18, 2003, at 6:58:34
>>>>>Thanks for your response.
You're welcome and I hope the selenium and zinc help.
>>>>>somebody said she brushed her hair out and that seemed to help--I've been tentative about that. The guy who'z cut my hair twice said to rinse with cold water.
that was me LOL, I also heard that rinsing your hair with cold water helps the shine :-)Good luck!:-)
Posted by Rainbowlight on September 18, 2003, at 18:26:13
In reply to Re: Hair loss on Lamictal » rainy, posted by JaneB on September 18, 2003, at 7:08:47
Recently I was losing tons of hair. This is what I bought at GNC that stopped it cold within 2 weeks. Coenzyme Q10 (1 a day), Silica (1 a day) and Kelp (5 a day). They also sell a Biotin shampoo and conditioner that is made for thinning hair (about $3.99). These are the only things that actually stopped my hairloss. Be careful with Rogaine. It made my hair fall out twice as bad.
Posted by galkeepinon on September 18, 2003, at 19:52:17
In reply to What worked for my hairloss, posted by Rainbowlight on September 18, 2003, at 18:26:13
Thanks for the info. Can I ask if the Coenzyme Q10 (1 a day), Silica (1 a day) and Kelp (5 a day) upset your tummy? I have a very sensitive tummy, but like the info you gave and want to try it. My hair falls out all the time due to the medication.
Thanks.> Recently I was losing tons of hair. This is what I bought at GNC that stopped it cold within 2 weeks. Coenzyme Q10 (1 a day), Silica (1 a day) and Kelp (5 a day). They also sell a Biotin shampoo and conditioner that is made for thinning hair (about $3.99). These are the only things that actually stopped my hairloss. Be careful with Rogaine. It made my hair fall out twice as bad.
Posted by Zenclearer on September 18, 2003, at 22:00:56
In reply to What worked for my hairloss, posted by Rainbowlight on September 18, 2003, at 18:26:13
I tried CoEnzyme Q10, and I felt like it caused burning when urinating. Do you have that problem?
I also felt a bit hot-flashed.
Do you feel any side effects from it?
Posted by Rainbowlight on September 19, 2003, at 1:31:25
In reply to Re: What worked for my hairloss » Rainbowlight, posted by galkeepinon on September 18, 2003, at 19:52:17
I took the Coenzyme Q10 in the morning, along with the Silica, and spread the kelp throughout the day. None of these bothered my tummy (I have a sensitive tummy too). I hope they work for you. I was in total panic mode, mine had been falling out for months. I lost over half my hair. It was awful. It is now growing back though.
Posted by Rainbowlight on September 19, 2003, at 1:33:01
In reply to Re: What worked for my hairloss » Rainbowlight, posted by Zenclearer on September 18, 2003, at 22:00:56
I didn't have any side effects from it (which is rare for me! LOL!) Maybe you could break the dose up and take a little at a time.
Posted by rainy on September 19, 2003, at 6:40:08
In reply to Re: What worked for my hairloss, posted by Rainbowlight on September 19, 2003, at 1:31:25
> What meds were you on,Rainbowlight? When you began using that stuff from GNC. Also when I referred to Serzon and wellbutrtin I was talking about the AD punch, not hairloss. I've been surprised by suicidal ideation lately that I'm putting on the Lamictal as well as hairloss. Attitude?
Posted by HaleyR on September 20, 2003, at 18:37:14
In reply to Re: new to topamax, question about dosage, posted by SpreadDaALoha on April 1, 2003, at 7:06:23
I have been on different anti-depressants since 9/11/01 and am currently on lexapro. I have put on 15 pounds which makes me more depressed. My eating habits have become horrible. Eating in the middle of the night (cookies and milk,) etc. My doctor has put me on topomax before things get out of control. I have been on it three weeks - am up to 75 mg. and have a very dry mouth and kinda sick to my stomach. - But no weight loss - I am still making sure I eat. I just dont know what do to - I am frightened of some of the side effects Ive been reading about and is it all worth it for 15 pounds and when will they come off - and will they come off because I feel too sick to eat? I would appreciate some advice - and I do exercise on the threadmill for my mental and physical well being, yet I just cant drop the weight. Thanks for any help.
Posted by The Lorax on September 22, 2003, at 14:14:24
In reply to Re: new to topamax, need some advice, posted by HaleyR on September 20, 2003, at 18:37:14
I hear ya! I have had the same concerns. I have been on Topamax for even longer with no results... I just talked to my Dr. and he raised my dosage to 100 mgs, this is part the reason... my Dr. said that he didn't want to "shock" my system by giving me too much at once and on lower dosages you don't really lose weight.
By the way... I have found that a lot of the side effects that you read about are temporary. Which made me very happy! I hope this helps.
> I have been on different anti-depressants since 9/11/01 and am currently on lexapro. I have put on 15 pounds which makes me more depressed. My eating habits have become horrible. Eating in the middle of the night (cookies and milk,) etc. My doctor has put me on topomax before things get out of control. I have been on it three weeks - am up to 75 mg. and have a very dry mouth and kinda sick to my stomach. - But no weight loss - I am still making sure I eat. I just dont know what do to - I am frightened of some of the side effects Ive been reading about and is it all worth it for 15 pounds and when will they come off - and will they come off because I feel too sick to eat? I would appreciate some advice - and I do exercise on the threadmill for my mental and physical well being, yet I just cant drop the weight. Thanks for any help.
Posted by lesliekay on September 23, 2003, at 6:57:05
In reply to Re: new to topamax, need some advice, posted by HaleyR on September 20, 2003, at 18:37:14
> I have been on different anti-depressants since 9/11/01 and am currently on lexapro. I have put on 15 pounds which makes me more depressed. My eating habits have become horrible. Eating in the middle of the night (cookies and milk,) etc. My doctor has put me on topomax before things get out of control. I have been on it three weeks - am up to 75 mg. and have a very dry mouth and kinda sick to my stomach. - But no weight loss - I am still making sure I eat. I just dont know what do to - I am frightened of some of the side effects Ive been reading about and is it all worth it for 15 pounds and when will they come off - and will they come off because I feel too sick to eat? I would appreciate some advice - and I do exercise on the threadmill for my mental and physical well being, yet I just cant drop the weight. Thanks for any help.
What I have found is that topamax causes the weight loss because you just lose interest in food. I lost 28 pounds on it without blinking an eye. It was lexapro that made me sick to my stomach. The only side effect I got from Topamax(and it is a big one) is becoming stupid on it. I handled that with a dosage reduction....good luck...Leslie kay
Posted by HaleyR on September 23, 2003, at 9:46:49
In reply to Re: new to topamax, need some advice » HaleyR, posted by lesliekay on September 23, 2003, at 6:57:05
> > I have been on different anti-depressants since 9/11/01 and am currently on lexapro. I have put on 15 pounds which makes me more depressed. My eating habits have become horrible. Eating in the middle of the night (cookies and milk,) etc. My doctor has put me on topomax before things get out of control. I have been on it three weeks - am up to 75 mg. and have a very dry mouth and kinda sick to my stomach. - But no weight loss - I am still making sure I eat. I just dont know what do to - I am frightened of some of the side effects Ive been reading about and is it all worth it for 15 pounds and when will they come off - and will they come off because I feel too sick to eat? I would appreciate some advice - and I do exercise on the threadmill for my mental and physical well being, yet I just cant drop the weight. Thanks for any help.
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> What I have found is that topamax causes the weight loss because you just lose interest in food. I lost 28 pounds on it without blinking an eye. It was lexapro that made me sick to my stomach. The only side effect I got from Topamax(and it is a big one) is becoming stupid on it. I handled that with a dosage reduction....good luck...Leslie kay
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>Leslie kay - Would you mind telling me the dosage you were on when you lost interest in food and when the side effect kicked in? I am just curious if it was a higher dosage than I am taking. I have just started 100 mg. Thanks Haley R.
Posted by Nitro on September 23, 2003, at 11:16:10
In reply to Re: new to topamax, need some advice, posted by HaleyR on September 23, 2003, at 9:46:49
> > > I have been on different anti-depressants since 9/11/01 and am currently on lexapro. I have put on 15 pounds which makes me more depressed. My eating habits have become horrible. Eating in the middle of the night (cookies and milk,) etc. My doctor has put me on topomax before things get out of control. I have been on it three weeks - am up to 75 mg. and have a very dry mouth and kinda sick to my stomach. - But no weight loss - I am still making sure I eat. I just dont know what do to - I am frightened of some of the side effects Ive been reading about and is it all worth it for 15 pounds and when will they come off - and will they come off because I feel too sick to eat? I would appreciate some advice - and I do exercise on the threadmill for my mental and physical well being, yet I just cant drop the weight. Thanks for any help.
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> > What I have found is that topamax causes the weight loss because you just lose interest in food. I lost 28 pounds on it without blinking an eye. It was lexapro that made me sick to my stomach. The only side effect I got from Topamax(and it is a big one) is becoming stupid on it. I handled that with a dosage reduction....good luck...Leslie kay
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> >Leslie kay - Would you mind telling me the dosage you were on when you lost interest in food and when the side effect kicked in? I am just curious if it was a higher dosage than I am taking. I have just started 100 mg. Thanks Haley R.
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> I am on my second week of Topamax now, but at a really low dosage, 25 mg morning and night and have had no side effects except some tingling in my hands after exercise (running up the sand dunes yesterday). I am on the Topamax for migranes and my doc is keeping me at the 50 mg per day level right now because my migraines have totally stopped. I cannot remember the last time I went 2 weeks in a row without a migrains so if I can do it with such a low level of topamax I will just stay there, we are kind of experimenting, want to stay with the lowest dose possible. I feel like my appetite is a little bit decreased but not much. Darn!! I am glad I haven't gotten any of the confusion some of the people here have noted - of course maybe I just haven't noticed it...Have any others noticed migraines stopping or decreasing?
Thanks! Nitro
Posted by lesliekay on September 24, 2003, at 3:28:07
In reply to Re: new to topamax, need some advice, posted by HaleyR on September 23, 2003, at 9:46:49
I lost interest in food at about 50 or so...I became stupid at 150...really stupid at200
Posted by rainy on September 24, 2003, at 9:56:14
In reply to Re: new to topamax, need some advice » HaleyR, posted by lesliekay on September 24, 2003, at 3:28:07
By stupid do you mean unable to keep train of thought in conversation, loss of names, dates, events, losing things, that kind of stuff? That began for me at 300 mgs--also disorientation while driving and a completely skewed sense of linear time. One good thing, even at 150 mgs I've lost interest in alcohol which has been an issue for me. I've gone from vodka to wine, but in the last two months even wine tastes awful, Since going below 200 mgs I've gained two pounds but from 110 to 112 isn't too bad. I do notice a tendency to binge at night which hasn't been around for years.
Posted by rainy on September 24, 2003, at 10:24:42
In reply to Yes, hairloss on Wellbutrin (nm) » rainy, posted by JaneB on September 18, 2003, at 7:10:26
This is Raney again. By "stupid" do you mean unable to hold train of thought in conversation, remember names, events, dates, become disoriented while dirivng, that sort of stuff? Also have any of you on Top noticed obsessive thinking? I've gone from 300 mgs to 150 but even at 200 I began to hold conversations with people in my head that I couldn't turn off and repeat road directions over and over and over. Is this the drug or Bipolar II? I'm also taking Lamictal 100 mgs and Wellbutrin 300. Just started Serzone 100 mgs and still depressed. Began gaining weight below 200 mgs Top. Good thing about it is that it has stopped any craving for alcohol which has been an issue for me for the last six or seven years. (I'm 61.) For this reason I don't want to stop completely, even if Top rather than the Lamictal is causing my terrifying hair loss. Sorry Haley. I need advice too. Remember, you can always stop or cut down if you think you're getting weird.
Posted by Nitro on September 24, 2003, at 10:38:36
In reply to Re: new to topamax, need some advice, posted by rainy on September 24, 2003, at 9:56:14
> By stupid do you mean unable to keep train of thought in conversation, loss of names, dates, events, losing things, that kind of stuff? That began for me at 300 mgs--also disorientation while driving and a completely skewed sense of linear time. One good thing, even at 150 mgs I've lost interest in alcohol which has been an issue for me. I've gone from vodka to wine, but in the last two months even wine tastes awful, Since going below 200 mgs I've gained two pounds but from 110 to 112 isn't too bad. I do notice a tendency to binge at night which hasn't been around for years.
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Another Topamax question - even on low levels, the literature says to drink lots of water, nowhere does it define lots of water. Is the usual 8 glasses a day, 64 oz of plain water enough? also, anyone notice sleep pattern difference at low doses? Thanks, Nitro
Posted by Haifa on September 24, 2003, at 13:38:41
In reply to Re: topomax, posted by loopie on August 27, 2003, at 1:06:26
Has anyone gotten migraine / headache relief with Topomax?;
Rule No. 1 when dealing with physicians: be an aware consumer, just like at any other transaction. it is MY body, I better know, not just trust what Dr says.
It is hard to find a physician who has the tenacity to stay with you for the duration through the frustrations of any chronic problem that cannot be "fixed".
I am once again on the trial-and-error track with my neurologist, who needs to be ‎reminded occasionally of Rule #1. After I described to him the symptoms I have with ‎what we called so far;migraines, he flinched and told me to NOT use any vassal ‎constrictors (Imitrex, Maxalt, etc): I get weakness on my left side, to the point of ‎paralysis. Imitrex and the likes does have the rebound effect, and I am trying to get off ‎the merry-go-round.
So now it is:
Excedrin (with Zantacs to coat my stomach), Darvacet for severe attacks, and the new ‎one started last night) - Topomax. (Norpramine did NOTHING).
I did not know about Topomax and weight loss - I have very little to spare. I read it can ‎increase kidney stones!
I need support right now. I am pretty much in charge of my life otherwise (single, home ‎business, my timetable, etc), but I still have 3-5 migraines/month, lasting from 12-72 ‎hours. I have on average 5 days in a week to do what others do in 7, and I am ‎constantly in time deficit, not to mention the constant cancellations of events whether ‎fun or obligations.
Posted by Nitro on September 24, 2003, at 14:26:17
In reply to Re: Migaines, and muscul weakness + topomax?, posted by Haifa on September 24, 2003, at 13:38:41
> Has anyone gotten migraine / headache relief with Topomax?;
> Rule No. 1 when dealing with physicians: be an aware consumer, just like at any other transaction. it is MY body, I better know, not just trust what Dr says.
> It is hard to find a physician who has the tenacity to stay with you for the duration through the frustrations of any chronic problem that cannot be "fixed".
> I am once again on the trial-and-error track with my neurologist, who needs to be ‎reminded occasionally of Rule #1. After I described to him the symptoms I have with ‎what we called so far;migraines, he flinched and told me to NOT use any vassal ‎constrictors (Imitrex, Maxalt, etc): I get weakness on my left side, to the point of ‎paralysis. Imitrex and the likes does have the rebound effect, and I am trying to get off ‎the merry-go-round.
> So now it is:
> Excedrin (with Zantacs to coat my stomach), Darvacet for severe attacks, and the new ‎one started last night) - Topomax. (Norpramine did NOTHING).
> I did not know about Topomax and weight loss - I have very little to spare. I read it can ‎increase kidney stones!
> I need support right now. I am pretty much in charge of my life otherwise (single, home ‎business, my timetable, etc), but I still have 3-5 migraines/month, lasting from 12-72 ‎hours. I have on average 5 days in a week to do what others do in 7, and I am ‎constantly in time deficit, not to mention the constant cancellations of events whether ‎fun or obligations.
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I have only been on Topamax 2 weeks - but have been migraine free and have been having 5 migraines a week so it is feeling like a miracle to me at the moment. Imitrex was relieving my migraines but I needed something to prevent them from coming on so constantly and top seems to do it. and at 50 mg per day. They say that the instance of kidney stones and other side effects is very minimal at such a low dose but to drink plenty of fluids (of course no definition of plenty, so I am drinking 100 oz per day). I drink a lot of water any way and tend to stay away from caffeine and carbonated drinks and sugar all together, and only drink alcohol for special occasions. I hear some people have good luck with Tryptophan for migraines - I didn't, nor any of the over the counter, the darvoset or percoset helped some with riding out the pain of migraine but didn't give the relieve the imitrex did. good luck to you. Nitro.
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