Psycho-Babble Medication Thread 208557

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lithium vs. zyprexa for bipolar II

Posted by cybercafe on March 12, 2003, at 20:28:15

hi, i am wondering if taking lithium would have a
greater antidepressant effect than 2.5 mg of zyprexa for bipolar type 2

 

Re: lithium vs. zyprexa for bipolar II cybercafe

Posted by jay on March 12, 2003, at 20:44:32

In reply to lithium vs. zyprexa for bipolar II, posted by cybercafe on March 12, 2003, at 20:28:15

> hi, i am wondering if taking lithium would have a
> greater antidepressant effect than 2.5 mg of zyprexa for bipolar type 2
>
>

Personally, I don't think so. Of course, you know YMMV, etc. But knowing the actions and mechanisms of both drugs, I would think the Zyprexa (and maybe even at a bit higher dose) would work better for BPII. At least that is what I experienced when I have taken both.

There is some research indicating effectiveness in combining a mood stabilizer with the atypicals, so you could give it a shot. If I where choosing a mood stabilizer in BPII, I'd go with Depakote, and noticed that I didn't need quite the same high levels even normally prescribed. (It only added to side effects.)

Just my take..and you know YMMV, etc. Hope that is some help.

Best,
Jay


 

Re: lithium vs. zyprexa for bipolar II

Posted by justyourlaugh on March 12, 2003, at 21:48:46

In reply to Re: lithium vs. zyprexa for bipolar II cybercafe, posted by jay on March 12, 2003, at 20:44:32

ymmv?
really have no dx..
never asked..
i am using topamax as a stabilizer..(100)
wellbutrin (300)
seroquel(1oo)
thyroid replacement
still angry as hell..
sad..
impossible to be around..
..
i am afraid to change meds again because i have been "si" free for over a month...not as delusional or disasociating..terrified to mess with that...
this combo has been in place for only 2 weeks-
just the topamax isnew-i dropped celexa ...
i cant understand why i have been so angry....i hate myself
j

 

thanks for all your help...was agood night for me!

Posted by justyourlaugh on March 13, 2003, at 10:37:40

In reply to Re: lithium vs. zyprexa for bipolar II, posted by justyourlaugh on March 12, 2003, at 21:48:46

waiting for replies
on this board...
is so addictive,
very hurtful
i feel like i am banging and no one is home............
knuckles bloody, bruised,..why do i always hurt the hands that give me my only outlet in life......
i am unplugging you ,you selfish bitch

 

Re: lithium vs. zyprexa for bipolar II

Posted by cybercafe on March 14, 2003, at 21:42:12

In reply to Re: lithium vs. zyprexa for bipolar II cybercafe, posted by jay on March 12, 2003, at 20:44:32

> > hi, i am wondering if taking lithium would have a
> > greater antidepressant effect than 2.5 mg of zyprexa for bipolar type 2
> >
> >
>
> Personally, I don't think so. Of course, you know YMMV, etc. But knowing the actions and mechanisms of both drugs, I would think the Zyprexa (and maybe even at a bit higher dose) would work better for BPII. At least that is what I experienced when I have taken both.

okay zyprexa is wonderful for levelling out moods ... but the mood i get is always depressed

i understand lithium not only provides mood stability but also has an antidepressant effect

>
> There is some research indicating effectiveness in combining a mood stabilizer with the atypicals, so you could give it a shot. If I where choosing a mood stabilizer in BPII, I'd go with Depakote, and noticed that I didn't need quite the same high levels even normally prescribed. (It only added to side effects.)

yeah i took depakote before... but just like zyprexa, it didn't give me much in the way of antidepressant effect

oh well... thanks for replying jay :)

>
> Just my take..and you know YMMV, etc. Hope that is some help.
>
> Best,
> Jay
>
>
>

 

Re: thanks for all your help...was agood night for me!

Posted by cybercafe on March 14, 2003, at 21:44:14

In reply to thanks for all your help...was agood night for me!, posted by justyourlaugh on March 13, 2003, at 10:37:40

> waiting for replies
> on this board...
> is so addictive,
> very hurtful
> i feel like i am banging and no one is home............
> knuckles bloody, bruised,..why do i always hurt the hands that give me my only outlet in life......
> i am unplugging you ,you selfish bitch
>

i hear ya.... i need more hobbies... but i need stimulation... people! .. and stimulation always involves money.. which i don't got

 

cyber cybercafe

Posted by justyourlaugh on March 14, 2003, at 22:23:16

In reply to Re: thanks for all your help...was agood night for me!, posted by cybercafe on March 14, 2003, at 21:44:14

o baby
i could get all sexual with that one hunny,no money needed cyber king ,x
whats jays talking about this ymmv or someshit????
i need good things said about lithium...
i am worried it will kill the only thing left in me..........

 

Re: cyber

Posted by cybercafe on March 15, 2003, at 19:16:38

In reply to cyber cybercafe, posted by justyourlaugh on March 14, 2003, at 22:23:16

> o baby
> i could get all sexual with that one hunny,no money needed cyber king ,x
> whats jays talking about this ymmv or someshit????
> i need good things said about lithium...
> i am worried it will kill the only thing left in me..........

haha...
ymmv = your mind may vary.... i.e. a drug may effect you differently

i hear really really good things about lithium ....
like, go to support groups and see people who say they
have been completely fine for decades on just lithium

people who take it for bipolar, people who take it for depression, etc etc

i dunno..i am really fucked because i have bipolar + ADD so there are many drugs i can't take
for most other people, i think there is great hope

 

Re: please be civil justyourlaugh cybercafe

Posted by Dr. Bob on March 16, 2003, at 9:14:54

In reply to Re: cyber, posted by cybercafe on March 15, 2003, at 19:16:38

> > whats jays talking about this ymmv or somesh*t????
>
> i dunno..i am really f*cked because i have bipolar + ADD so there are many drugs i can't take

I'd appreciate it if you didn't use language that could offend others, thanks.

Bob

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