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Posted by Jaynee on December 7, 2002, at 1:19:42
Well, I am boozing it again. It's like once I start I can't stop. My husband hates me when I get like this, all I can say is I need to go to another level. The level of no worries. When I was on Celexa I didn't drink at all. It tried but it made me sick and I didn't feel the need. It's not like I drink all the time, its just when I start I can't stop. I want to go til I am no longer, no longer here. I think I am may be still depressed, but I think I am more bored than anything else. I just don't know. I think I am basically content, I am just a lost soul. What the hell. I guess there are worse things in life. I was told I have ADD, among other things and I am on no drugs other than booze, when I get going. I go usually for about 5 to 6 days straight and then I get crazy and drink for 2 to 3 day straight into complete nothingness. What is that about? Actually I have been pretty good for the past year or so, but then again I was on Celexa. Maybe I should try Strattera? I don't know. I am not about to do the Bi-polar thing.
Help......
Posted by Mal on December 7, 2002, at 3:37:48
In reply to Laying it on the line, booze............, posted by Jaynee on December 7, 2002, at 1:19:42
Hi, Jaynee. I am not sure I have any comforting words, but I hope this helps...
It is a very good thing that you acknowledge that there is a problem. I think trying another medication is a good plan, with the supervision of your pdoc, of course. Your post affected me because my (alcoholic?) uncle seems to behave as you describe. He can be soooo good for soooo long, then if he gets a whiff of beer he's out of commission (we call it "on vacation") for a week or two. I'm sure he has other problems, too, but this has been a huge factor in ruining his life. I don't want to scare you with the details, but my point is that you should do something NOW (like see your pdoc) before you damage your marriage beyond repair.
My experience with alcohol has been like this: for a long time I did fine drinking socially but earlier this year I got a lot on my mind and would drink to escape the huge decisions/issues I was facing at the time. I wasn't talking about the decisions with anyone, I was just running scared inside. I never stayed drunk for days, but several times I got plastered such that I was SSSIIIICCCKK all day the next day. That was enough for me, so I quit dirinking at all for several months. During that time, I talked about my decisions/issues, got some things resolved, and have had A DRINK (2 at the most) on a FEW occasions in the last month or 2. I am feeling better now, but I know it was the inner turmoil that was driving me to drink too much. How are you doing on the inside? Is anything nagging at you? Are there decisions you are agonizing over? Perhaps some counseling would also help?
Jaynee, I hope you manage to stay sober. The holidays will probably be difficult, but with a prescription and a new resolve, you'll pull through this tough time.
Wishing you the best...
MAL
Posted by Anna Laura on December 7, 2002, at 5:47:44
In reply to Laying it on the line, booze............, posted by Jaynee on December 7, 2002, at 1:19:42
> Well, I am boozing it again. It's like once I start I can't stop. My husband hates me when I get like this, all I can say is I need to go to another level. The level of no worries. When I was on Celexa I didn't drink at all. It tried but it made me sick and I didn't feel the need. It's not like I drink all the time, its just when I start I can't stop. I want to go til I am no longer, no longer here. I think I am may be still depressed, but I think I am more bored than anything else. I just don't know. I think I am basically content, I am just a lost soul. What the hell. I guess there are worse things in life. I was told I have ADD, among other things and I am on no drugs other than booze, when I get going. I go usually for about 5 to 6 days straight and then I get crazy and drink for 2 to 3 day straight into complete nothingness. What is that about? Actually I have been pretty good for the past year or so, but then again I was on Celexa. Maybe I should try Strattera? I don't know. I am not about to do the Bi-polar thing.
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> Help......O.K., no "preaching", nor moralist guilt-trips here; i've been there, done that, and i know that phrases like "You should be thinking about your family!" and such simply don't work. I know by personal experience that guilt and shame only makes it worse, so i'll just give you some "technical informations".
They say that ADD "MIGHT" (not always) be related to pleasure seeking and alchol craving since there seems to be an underactive part in the brain, specifically in the basal ganglia region (i have got it, in fact i used to be a alcholic as a teen-ager other then having ADHD);
just sharing some personal experience: i used to get drunk 'till i dropped; didn't care about being more "social" , didn't want to be more secure in order to approach boys, didn't give a heck about self-confidence: i just wanted to drink until my self-awareness would dissipate, until i'd go "blank": my secret intent was total mental black out and i liked it. I can understand that.
O.K/ more technical things:The "Nucleus Accumbens", the brain structure related to pleasure and reward is down there also, (in the basal ganglia) and it's probably underactive also, that's why some ADD people (not everybody) try to compensate by stimulating that region with alcohol, food, risk-taking behaviours etc.
The problem is sensitization which means tolerance: alchol looses its effectiveness over time: i quit drinking something like 18 years ago (i'm 33 now) and i still can't get any pleasure from alcohol, i can't even enjoy a nice glass of wine when i dine out, nothing!
It's like my receptors had been "shut" or something;Most important thing: alchol intake might make your disorder worse (ADD, depression or anxiety) it could become chronic and treatment resistant and you don't want that, so be careful.
Take care
Posted by Jaynee on December 8, 2002, at 12:13:50
In reply to Laying it on the line, booze............, posted by Jaynee on December 7, 2002, at 1:19:42
nm
Posted by chefdog35 on December 9, 2002, at 20:43:58
In reply to Laying it on the line, booze............, posted by Jaynee on December 7, 2002, at 1:19:42
hey i have been there its not fun i have not had a drink in 3 yrs i too am on celexa and seroquel I just stopped smoking weed 3 weeks ago and that really made me think whats going to fill that void . idont know but we all have a purpose in life. inot sure of mine all i can say is thank god for all the little things because one day you might realize those little things were larger than life itself. if you would like to chat e-mail me at barnette_kevin33@yahoo.com
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