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Posted by Nibor on July 27, 2000, at 9:03:16
As I told you before, I work on the Undoing Depression website (http://www.undoingdepression.com). I found psychbabble during a goggle search because several of you discussed our site and the book of the same name. For some reason--and here is where I REALLY need some advice--we are not listed on a few of the very important sites, including this one, Dr. Ivan's, Suite 101. This is so, even though those sites have extensive lists that include personal pages and sites that sell hundreds of books and products via links to Amazon or B&N. In addition, Suite 101, for example, has even cited our website in some of its articles.
I/we sincerely need some help in figuring out what to do. Our site is, in a way, a personal page because Richard O'Connor suffers from depression himself; indeed he has made a lifelong study of it.
Any ideas? Please do not be hesitant about telling us what you think are problems; I'm not looking for praise here because that would not explain what we are doing wrong.
Thanks,
Nibor
Posted by Dr. Bob on July 28, 2000, at 0:13:38
In reply to Need advice on what we are doing wrong., posted by Nibor on July 27, 2000, at 9:03:16
> we are not listed on a few of the very important sites, including this one
What? You're listed here, aren't you?
Bob
Posted by shar on July 28, 2000, at 0:27:53
In reply to Need advice on what we are doing wrong., posted by Nibor on July 27, 2000, at 9:03:16
Hi, Nibor (robin?) (j/k)
I visited the Undoing Depression website for the first time tonight after reading your post.I can't say from a marketing perspective why you are not included in some of the other websites, but I can make a suggestion about the U.D. website.
On the home page, I read the items in the left side frame, news, faqs, etc.--all of them except the archives. And I read the quotes and little synopsis.
The location of Living Well is the last thing on the home page, although, in my opinion it is the "substance" of the site.
Usually I think of the items in the left frame as sort of a table of contents for the site. But, as you know, these are really mostly opinion pieces by the author. With a couple of misstatements in the one about a/d meds.
After reading all those opinion pieces, I looked at the guestbook, looked at "Starting...a Group", then (because it was last) looked at Living Well.
Ahh! It piqued my interest right away! Several categories of symptoms (don't enjoy anything, stressed, trouble at work, etc.) and beneath each one, things that might help me learn about and/or cope with the symptom.
Why is this not the home page, I wonder. The little intro to Living Well says what is below is what the web site is about. So, should it be the last thing or the first thing one sees when visiting the web site?
Even just having the intro and symptoms (with links to either Living Well or to its very own list of helpful recommendations) prominently displayed would help.
And the rest of what is on the home page becomes additional information, maybe including something on "if you've read the book" and having a survey asking what people liked most, least, what they've actually used or implemented from the book, etc. That will tell you a lot about what people might want to hear/see more of. If that is doable.
Isn't it easy to make suggestions when one does not have to implement them? I hope this helps. If you visit other sites, can't you mention your web site? I hadn't heard of it, except on psycho babble, and it sounded like it would not be something I'd be interested in, so I never visited. I went through a "self-help book" phase for about 10 years, and then just stopped reading them, and I thought U.D. the book and web-site would be too self-helpy for me.
Hope this made sense!
Shar
Posted by Nibor on July 28, 2000, at 3:22:05
In reply to Re: Need advice on what we are doing wrong., posted by Dr. Bob on July 28, 2000, at 0:13:38
> > we are not listed on a few of the very important sites, including this one
>
> What? You're listed here, aren't you?
>
> Bob
No, we're not listed in your Links. I have made several requests and it hasn't happened, so I figured I needed some help in determining what changes I should make. Shar's advice looks very good [Thanks, Shar] and I will work on that next week. Any other suggestions?
Nibor
Posted by Lisa on July 28, 2000, at 4:06:53
In reply to Re: Need advice on what we are doing wrong., posted by Nibor on July 28, 2000, at 3:22:05
> > > we are not listed on a few of the very important sites, including this one
> >
> > What? You're listed here, aren't you?
> >
> > Bob
> No, we're not listed in your Links. I have made several requests and it hasn't happened, so I figured I needed some help in determining what changes I should make. Shar's advice looks very good [Thanks, Shar] and I will work on that next week. Any other suggestions?
> NiborI didn't notice a links page on your site. If you have already contacted the webmasters of the sites you mentioned and gotten no response, maybe it would help if you added a link to their pages first and then requested a reciprocal link, making sure you mention that you have already linked to their site. I've done this several times when for web sites I've worked on and always gotten a good response.
Shar's suggestion to make the "Living Well" section more visible is a good one. It does seem to be the most important part of the site, so it would be good if it was the first thing you notice when you see the page.
Lisa
Posted by ksvt on July 28, 2000, at 22:40:36
In reply to Re: Need advice on what we are doing wrong. » Nibor, posted by Lisa on July 28, 2000, at 4:06:53
> > > > we are not listed on a few of the very important sites, including this one
> > >
> > > What? You're listed here, aren't you?
> > >
> > > Bob
> > No, we're not listed in your Links. I have made several requests and it hasn't happened, so I figured I needed some help in determining what changes I should make. Shar's advice looks very good [Thanks, Shar] and I will work on that next week. Any other suggestions?
> > Nibor
>
> I didn't notice a links page on your site. If you have already contacted the webmasters of the sites you mentioned and gotten no response, maybe it would help if you added a link to their pages first and then requested a reciprocal link, making sure you mention that you have already linked to their site. I've done this several times when for web sites I've worked on and always gotten a good response.
>
> Shar's suggestion to make the "Living Well" section more visible is a good one. It does seem to be the most important part of the site, so it would be good if it was the first thing you notice when you see the page.
>
> Lisa
Nibor - I've been dropping in on your site periodically for over a year. My beef is that it has been pretty static - the contents don't change very frequently. Just my opinion.
Posted by Nibor on July 29, 2000, at 8:58:32
In reply to Re: Need advice on what we are doing wrong., posted by ksvt on July 28, 2000, at 22:40:36
> > > > > we are not listed on a few of the very important sites, including this one
> > > >
> > > > What? You're listed here, aren't you?
> > > >
> > > > Bob
> > > No, we're not listed in your Links. I have made several requests and it hasn't happened, so I figured I needed some help in determining what changes I should make. Shar's advice looks very good [Thanks, Shar] and I will work on that next week. Any other suggestions?
> > > Nibor
> >
> > I didn't notice a links page on your site. If you have already contacted the webmasters of the sites you mentioned and gotten no response, maybe it would help if you added a link to their pages first and then requested a reciprocal link, making sure you mention that you have already linked to their site. I've done this several times when for web sites I've worked on and always gotten a good response.
> >
> > Shar's suggestion to make the "Living Well" section more visible is a good one. It does seem to be the most important part of the site, so it would be good if it was the first thing you notice when you see the page.
> >
> > Lisa
> Nibor - I've been dropping in on your site periodically for over a year. My beef is that it has been pretty static - the contents don't change very frequently. Just my opinion.I agree. I am learning Dreamweaver now. My background is in publishing, and the new technology has been a mystery. So because we had to hire people to update the site, we were limited by cost. I am still having some trouble translating the previous material from Program X (the first person who set up the site used a system no one else could figure out), then it was Adobe, then FrontPage, now Dreamweaver. But I think within the next few weeks I'll get a handle on it.
Thank you all for your suggestions.
Nibor
Posted by Dr. Bob on July 29, 2000, at 11:17:42
In reply to Re: Need advice on what we are doing wrong., posted by Nibor on July 28, 2000, at 3:22:05
> > > we are not listed on a few of the very important sites, including this one
> >
> > What? You're listed here, aren't you?
>
> No, we're not listed in your Links. I have made several requests and it hasn't happened, so I figured I needed some help in determining what changes I should make.Oh, sorry, I meant your book is listed on my Read! page. Mental Health Links I have a hard time keeping up to date. So many pages, so little time...
Bob
Posted by Nibor on July 29, 2000, at 12:53:05
In reply to Re: Need advice on what we are doing wrong. » Nibor, posted by Dr. Bob on July 29, 2000, at 11:17:42
> > > > we are not listed on a few of the very important sites, including this one
> > >
> > > What? You're listed here, aren't you?
> >
> > No, we're not listed in your Links. I have made several requests and it hasn't happened, so I figured I needed some help in determining what changes I should make.
>
> Oh, sorry, I meant your book is listed on my Read! page. Mental Health Links I have a hard time keeping up to date. So many pages, so little time...
>
> BobSorry to be such a pain, but Dr. Bobbbbbbbbb, we're not there eeeeeeeither.
Posted by shar on July 29, 2000, at 14:58:03
In reply to Re: Need advice on what we are doing wrong. » Dr. Bob, posted by Nibor on July 29, 2000, at 12:53:05
Very nice whine, Nibor. I may need to borrow it sometime. (8- > Shar
> Sorry to be such a pain, but Dr. Bobbbbbbbbb, we're not there eeeeeeeither.
Posted by Dr. Bob on July 30, 2000, at 14:14:52
In reply to Re: Need advice on what we are doing wrong. » Dr. Bob, posted by Nibor on July 29, 2000, at 12:53:05
> > Oh, sorry, I meant your book is listed on my Read! page...
>
> Sorry to be such a pain, but Dr. Bobbbbbbbbb, we're not there eeeeeeeither.Sure you are! Aren't you? Do I have the wrong book in mind?
Bob
Posted by Oddzilla on July 30, 2000, at 14:59:14
In reply to Re: Need advice on what we are doing wrong. » Dr. Bob, posted by Nibor on July 29, 2000, at 12:53:05
Hi Nibor The book Undoing Depression is under the "recommended by the folks at Psychobabble" section. Is that the one your talking about? I like your site, I went to look at it a while back when dj mentioned it.
Oddzilla
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