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Posted by rabble_rouser on July 5, 2005, at 14:57:47
Hi all,
just to let interested parties know, I took my final dose of effexor yesterday alongside that scary raft of vitamins. With no effexor in my body, I have felt no withdrawal, save for a feeling of tiredness equivalent to a few late nights, and have in fact been feeling amazingly good.
I am going to continue on with the supplements, and might add 5-HTP to keep serotonin levels topped up. The aminos in the list are meant to sort out the norepinephrine, though I could add NADH (so I'm told).
Will let you know how I get on.
The list again:
Choline, L-Glutamine, DL-Phenylalanine, L-Tyrosine, Omega 3's, Co-Q10, Ginkgo Biloba, Green Tea extract (theanine) and a multivit.
Ross
Posted by Shortelise on July 6, 2005, at 13:51:52
In reply to Finished effexor today. No Withdrawal, posted by rabble_rouser on July 5, 2005, at 14:57:47
Oh, shut up!
:-)
I'm really glad for you, and am looking forward to my visit to the natural pharmacy today. You can bet I'll keep you posted.
I'm feeling awful today, it's soemthing like day 6 of 3/4 dose. I am determined to do this, and to see if I can make it without this med. There is always the possibility that my doc is wrong, and that, like my mother, I will need to stay on this med forever. Time will tell.
RR, I really appreciate you.
ShortE
ShortE
Posted by rabble_rouser on July 6, 2005, at 15:37:39
In reply to Re: Finished effexor today. No Withdrawal » rabble_rouser, posted by Shortelise on July 6, 2005, at 13:51:52
Hi ShortE,
You're very welcome! Plus I enjoy sharing :)
In addition I have found that maintaining my 'sleep bank account' of 8 hours a night (if I miss an hour, grab it later in the week - keep the account in the black!), drinking 2 litres of water a day (keeps your focus and your mind fresh) and going to the gym all really help. Distraction is a lovely way of staving off an incoming bad mood. Ive been keeping The comedy section of limewire in business for weeks! Meditation and visualisation are truly awesome - I can't recommend them enough.
I have also kept up the therapy techniques I have learned, and have been keeping a Self Development Journal. This has helped me change my view of my natural human tendencies to be flawed from 'weaknesses' to 'opportunities for directed growth'. If I screw up, I stick it in the journal. If I feel bad, I can't say "I shouldn't feel this way" because thats BS - I DO feel this way, and 'should' won't change that!
I just let the emotion rise, do what its going to do, and then let it fall. Giving up that desire for control is LIBERATING - and suddenly I felt human again. At last - I can feel!
Once it has subsided, I mentally strip away the emotion, and then ask, "what can I learn from this? how could i do it differently next time?"
The buddhist monks say "believing is seeing". Its an unfortunate truth that in humans, we say "whenI am confident enough, thenI will try" But it just doesnt work that way.
We cannot wait for the confidence to strike before we try to change because we only gain confidence by DOING. Riding a bike. Painting a vase of flowers. Surfing. How do we learn? By falling off. Screwing up the flowers. Swallowing seaweed. The same is true of psychological skills.
We can only stick our chests out, take a risk and try our best. Maybe we get rejected. Maybe someone gets upset. Just like wiping out in the surf, these personal mistakes are just that - errors to be learned from. Just think - what an empowering way to view the world!
The thing is once you start enjoying the process, and take your mind off the outcome, your ability to learn from your mistakes increases. And as you learn, something else increases.
Thats right. Your confidence.
Why do human beings have to be such a goddamn paradox?
I have been advocating this book all over the forum. I assure you I have no link with this guy and I make no profit - other than the healing this book is giving me, and the chance to help you guys.
How to Accept Yourself - Windy Dryden.
Dont be scared - this books british! ;-)
Posted by angelbean on July 16, 2005, at 0:06:39
In reply to Re: Finished effexor today. No Withdrawal, posted by rabble_rouser on July 6, 2005, at 15:37:39
Wow! I am fairly new here, so I have not ready many of your posts, but I will search them out now! Thanks for being so positive. You would be great to have around during this time of withdrawal.
Angel
Posted by rabble_rouser on July 28, 2005, at 18:04:07
In reply to Great Attitude » rabble_rouser, posted by angelbean on July 16, 2005, at 0:06:39
hey sorry, missed your post!
Glad I can be of assistance :)
Rabble
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