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Posted by floatingbridge on July 16, 2011, at 12:47:42
In reply to You guys know europe!, posted by Lamdage on July 16, 2011, at 12:41:21
There have always been pockets of civilization in The States. Probably more so before they became The States.
I haven't been to Europe myself. My grandparents are from Europe. That count for something...?
> You guys know almost more european cities than i do..
> Thumps up! Americans are not known for knowing anything outside of the states but once again: prejudice
Posted by Lamdage on July 16, 2011, at 13:07:30
In reply to You guys know europe!, posted by Lamdage on July 16, 2011, at 12:41:21
Munich is about as good as germany gets, good choice!
Ps: Go to "Hirschgarten", relax on the lake.. You have to in the summer!
Hofbräuhaus if you are into beer and your meds allow it, but i guess thats a no brainer for tourists. Ive seen a bunch of japanese people dancing on the table to traditional bavarian music haha.
The subway system in Munich is perfect.
Been there with school, we were obnoxious "sobriety is lame folks" but anyway. "Deutsches Museum" is worth a go.. supposedly the largest technical museum in the world. Not sure about that but its pretty good.Have a good time!
Posted by Lamdage on July 16, 2011, at 13:26:38
In reply to Re: You guys know europe! » Lamdage, posted by floatingbridge on July 16, 2011, at 12:47:42
> There have always been pockets of civilization in The States. Probably more so before they became The States.
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> I haven't been to Europe myself. My grandparents are from Europe. That count for something...?
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> > You guys know almost more european cities than i do..
> > Thumps up! Americans are not known for knowing anything outside of the states but once again: prejudice
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>Just repeating the information! Were you feeling criticized? Or am i totally out of line now..
Posted by floatingbridge on July 16, 2011, at 14:19:12
In reply to You guys know europe!, posted by Lamdage on July 16, 2011, at 12:41:21
There have always been pockets of civilization in The States. Probably more so before they became The States.
I haven't been to Europe myself. My grandparents are from Europe. That count for something...?
> You guys know almost more european cities than i do..
> Thumps up! Americans are not known for knowing anything outside of the states but once again: prejudice
Posted by floatingbridge on July 16, 2011, at 14:27:04
In reply to Re: You guys know europe!, posted by Lamdage on July 16, 2011, at 13:26:38
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> Just repeating the information! Were you feeling criticized? Or am i totally out of line now..You're fine, Lamdage. You're not out of line. I don't read your post as critical at all! I was just being ironic. My apologies. I do wish I have been to Europe. Personally, I feel like I have missed out on alot of experience that traveling can bring.
(I also see that I double-posted :-/)
Posted by Phillipa on July 16, 2011, at 21:32:10
In reply to Re: You guys know europe!, posted by Lamdage on July 16, 2011, at 13:26:38
Hey Lamage I've been to Germany a few time and met my Mother's only alive relatives there near some bird museam. I had a Grandfather my Mother's Father Who died when she was two in the German army. Died of pneumonia. Phillipa
Posted by Lamdage on July 17, 2011, at 5:42:30
In reply to Re: You guys know europe!, posted by floatingbridge on July 16, 2011, at 14:27:04
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> You're fine, Lamdage. You're not out of line. I don't read your post as critical at all! I was just being ironic. My apologies. I do wish I have been to Europe. Personally, I feel like I have missed out on alot of experience that traveling can bring.
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>I feel you.. traveling is great, especially longer term trips were you can dig a little into the culture.
Haha floating i didnt get this!
Theres a funny thing about english.. in the beginning it feels real simple, you picked up words from MTV etc. maybe youve even watched a couple movies and you think you got it all figured out. Then at some point the more you learn the sh*tt**r you feel about the language lol. Did this Cambridge Advanced thing and the last days before the test we just hung out laughing about our english having fun with the language!Golden SoCal times;)
For some reason i have a different state of mind in socal, more awake sort of. Theres just something about this place. Gonna be back as soon as i can afford going for good.
Posted by floatingbridge on July 17, 2011, at 7:22:52
In reply to Re: You guys know europe!, posted by Lamdage on July 17, 2011, at 5:42:30
There is way more sunlight in southern California for starters. A nice light. But it's so sprawling, there, too. There is a neighborhood feel about sections of Los Angeles, though, I found. It's possible to go for a few days without hopping on a freeway in some neighborhoods. Then again, many there love their cars.
I have heard English is tricky because of it's mixed root origins and idioms. I only know Spanish, and that has fallen to disuse. Learning that was pretty direct, except for
remembering what objects were feminine or masculine :PDon't ask me any German :-). I love to listen to my friend from Berlin speak. German is very interesting. Love the way big compound (?) words are built. I have worked a little through Rilke.
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> > You're fine, Lamdage. You're not out of line. I don't read your post as critical at all! I was just being ironic. My apologies. I do wish I have been to Europe. Personally, I feel like I have missed out on alot of experience that traveling can bring.
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> I feel you.. traveling is great, especially longer term trips were you can dig a little into the culture.
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> Haha floating i didnt get this!
> Theres a funny thing about english.. in the beginning it feels real simple, you picked up words from MTV etc. maybe youve even watched a couple movies and you think you got it all figured out. Then at some point the more you learn the sh*tt**r you feel about the language lol. Did this Cambridge Advanced thing and the last days before the test we just hung out laughing about our english having fun with the language!
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> Golden SoCal times;)
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> For some reason i have a different state of mind in socal, more awake sort of. Theres just something about this place. Gonna be back as soon as i can afford going for good.
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Posted by Lamdage on July 17, 2011, at 8:03:17
In reply to Re: You guys know europe! » Lamdage, posted by Phillipa on July 16, 2011, at 21:32:10
Did you like? Im not terribly fond of germany but it has its good sides. Recently found that nature here is amazing.. running through the corn fields and trees with the wind moving them. aah im a dreamer and always will be hehe
Posted by floatingbridge on July 17, 2011, at 8:09:32
In reply to Re: You guys know europe!, posted by Lamdage on July 17, 2011, at 8:03:17
> Did you like? Im not terribly fond of germany but it has its good sides. Recently found that nature here is amazing.. running through the corn fields and trees with the wind moving them. aah im a dreamer and always will be hehe
The Rilke? Very much. What about you? Were you forced to read him in school?
I would like to visit Germany someday. Corn fields and trees with some wind sounds very good :-). My Berlin friend says it was a tough place to grow up, but she takes advantage of all the benefits. She loves the US, but it also drives her a little nuts, too.
Posted by Lamdage on July 17, 2011, at 9:12:38
In reply to Re: You guys know europe! » Lamdage, posted by floatingbridge on July 17, 2011, at 8:09:32
> > Did you like? Im not terribly fond of germany but it has its good sides. Recently found that nature here is amazing.. running through the corn fields and trees with the wind moving them. aah im a dreamer and always will be hehe
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> The Rilke? Very much. What about you? Were you forced to read him in school?
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> I would like to visit Germany someday. Corn fields and trees with some wind sounds very good :-). My Berlin friend says it was a tough place to grow up, but she takes advantage of all the benefits. She loves the US, but it also drives her a little nuts, too.
>Hehe no we didnt read any of his work. I was responding to phillipa with the last post cuz he has been to germany.
It is a tough place to grow up in.. German upbringing. This whole hitler psychosis didnt come out of the blue. My mother was beaten with a stick on a regular basis. Stuff like that doesnt just disappear within one generation. But thats not a pleasant topic.If you visit the right places in germany it is very beautiful indeed. Gotta lace up those shoes and check out nature, very good retreat.
Im amazed at how much you fellow babblers know about europe. Ive always felt that "mood disordered" people are more intellectual than average joe (or max mustermann;) and many have some insane talents, too. Its kind of sad that some of the most talented people are disabled by this sh*t. So much potential goes down a drain with this illness.
Posted by floatingbridge on July 17, 2011, at 9:50:14
In reply to Re: You guys know europe!, posted by Lamdage on July 17, 2011, at 9:12:38
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> Hehe no we didnt read any of his work. I was responding to phillipa with the last post cuz he has been to germany.
> It is a tough place to grow up in.. German upbringing. This whole hitler psychosis didnt come out of the blue. My mother was beaten with a stick on a regular basis. Stuff like that doesnt just disappear within one generation. But thats not a pleasant topic.Ooops. Excuse me, Phillipa. Sorry for the misunderstanding. I seem to be having difficulty with this thread :P
Yes, not a pleasant topic, but real. Even though the social board is not the place to discuss this topic, I
speculate that my grandparents did not leave their European war experiences behind them. Rather it plays out. There are broom stick type stories in my family as well.All the more to make walking in a well ordered corn field and in the trees very appealing.
I only mention it because I believe that when mentioned, sh*t should be acknowledged, even if it's just a nod.
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> If you visit the right places in germany it is very beautiful indeed. Gotta lace up those shoes and check out nature, very good retreat.
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> Im amazed at how much you fellow babblers know about europe. Ive always felt that "mood disordered" people are more intellectual than average joe (or max mustermann;) and many have some insane talents, too. Its kind of sad that some of the most talented people are disabled by this sh*t. So much potential goes down a drain with this illness.
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Posted by torrid on July 17, 2011, at 14:09:52
In reply to Re: You guys know europe!, posted by Lamdage on July 17, 2011, at 9:12:38
You got that right! we have the most beautuiful nature, lots of untouched nature too. It only takes a half day to drive from viennia to amsterdam, that's diagelnal across western europe. To go across this county it takes days, I once drove straight from san deago to new york in 52 hours, in 52 two hours starting in netherlands you could stop for breakfast in austria and keep going all the way to turkey or further but there is no wilderness, only civilization, old civilizations and culture but no nature. europians come to the us for what we take for granted, amazing nature. we have an amazing county what we lack in culture we make up in ingenewaty, I can't think of a word that I know how to spell, americans are the most inventive people in the world. In europe if it says dont cross on red, no one crosses. Americans are rude and put there feet on the seets of trains and cross on red, walk in the grass that says keep off the grass but that is where we get our inventiveness. We approach sience with the same attitude that rules don't apply. Can't type any more to much pain hope it makes sence, not going to proof what i wrote
Posted by Phillipa on July 17, 2011, at 20:55:36
In reply to Re: You guys know europe!, posted by Lamdage on July 17, 2011, at 9:12:38
You know I loved the old towns with cobbled stone streets and narrow roadways never saw cars on them. The locks were also pretty neat. Now the cities I found a lot like the USA. Phillipa
Posted by Phillipa on July 17, 2011, at 21:03:50
In reply to Re: You guys know europe! » Lamdage, posted by torrid on July 17, 2011, at 14:09:52
Torrid Europe was amazing and true what you say driving from country to country is like from state to state here. I did like Switzerland best. Started in Vienna, Got to Switzerland, went to Belgium (small) Holland, Denmark, Back down into Germany and I think first time was back in Switzerland and took a drive around a lake to one of his relatives to France for lunch. Been to Paris didn't care for it. Yes went to Louve, and Effiel Tower. Love Phillipa
Posted by Lamdage on July 18, 2011, at 0:14:16
In reply to Re: You guys know europe! » Lamdage, posted by floatingbridge on July 17, 2011, at 9:50:14
Yes its very real.. But like i said the propensity for cruelty and accepting lies have been there way before the war. The blind obedience, too.
Of course what happened reinforced all this again. The fear is instilled.
For sure, since most people run from their past as fast as they can rather than face up to it, it gets inflicted upon innocent children and the cycle of abuse is complete once again. Its very sad..
> Yes, not a pleasant topic, but real. Even though the social board is not the place to discuss this topic, I
> speculate that my grandparents did not leave their European war experiences behind them. Rather it plays out. There are broom stick type stories in my family as well.
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> All the more to make walking in a well ordered corn field and in the trees very appealing.
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> I only mention it because I believe that when mentioned, sh*t should be acknowledged, even if it's just a nod.
Posted by europerep on July 23, 2011, at 17:56:58
In reply to Re: You guys know europe!, posted by Lamdage on July 18, 2011, at 0:14:16
Aww, why am I only seeing this now? I could have told you great places to visit here, particularly in Belgium, the Netherlands and Germany.
Anyhow, I hope you have a nice trip. Or are you still about to go? If so let me know!
Posted by larryhoover on July 23, 2011, at 20:31:24
In reply to Europe, posted by europerep on July 23, 2011, at 17:56:58
> Aww, why am I only seeing this now? I could have told you great places to visit here, particularly in Belgium, the Netherlands and Germany.
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> Anyhow, I hope you have a nice trip. Or are you still about to go? If so let me know!I don't leave Canada until Friday, and I'll have internet access wherever I can get wifi. I appreciate any ideas.....
In Germany, we will be visiting Munich and Berlin, so anything within daytrip range would be great. We won't make it to the Netherlands, but we will spend a few days in Brussels, Belgium.
Thanks,
Lar
Posted by floatingbridge on July 23, 2011, at 22:18:46
In reply to Re: Europe » europerep, posted by larryhoover on July 23, 2011, at 20:31:24
Have a wonderful time :-).
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> I don't leave Canada until Friday, and I'll have internet access wherever I can get wifi. I appreciate any ideas.....
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> In Germany, we will be visiting Munich and Berlin, so anything within daytrip range would be great. We won't make it to the Netherlands, but we will spend a few days in Brussels, Belgium.
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> Thanks,
> Lar
Posted by europerep on July 24, 2011, at 10:44:17
In reply to Re: Europe » europerep, posted by larryhoover on July 23, 2011, at 20:31:24
> I don't leave Canada until Friday, and I'll have internet access wherever I can get wifi. I appreciate any ideas.....
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> In Germany, we will be visiting Munich and Berlin, so anything within daytrip range would be great. We won't make it to the Netherlands, but we will spend a few days in Brussels, Belgium.
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> Thanks,
> LarHey,
it's too bad you won't make it to the Netherlands, it's the coolest and most sympathetic European country I think... but the other places on your itinerary are quite nice as well of course.
As for Brussels:
Is your son into chocolate? Then the Museum of Cocoa and Chocolate might be worth a visit:
http://www.mucc.be/EN/index_en.htmOr do you guys like (surrealist) art, then the René Magritte museum might be an idea:
http://www.musee-magritte-museum.be/Or, if you like architecture, just walk through the city, there are beautiful buildings everywhere :).. particularly the Townhall at "Grand Place".
Or you could visit the European Parliament, if you're interested in politics.
If you want to do a day-trip in Belgium, definitely go to Antwerp or, better yet, Bruges on the coast. It's a very beautiful town!
In Berlin:
The Berlin Wall of course..
I've never been to the German Historical Museum, but I am sure it is interesting: http://www.dhm.de/ENGLISH/index.htmlOr the Jewish Museum maybe? http://www.jmberlin.de/main/EN/homepage-EN.php
If you are less into museums and more into seeing the actual city, the quarters Friedrichshain and Kreuzberg are probably the most vibrant parts of the city..
I've only been to Munich as a kid, so I can't say much about it, but theoretically you could go to Vienna for a day. Or if your son is into cars, you could take a guided tour through the BMW facility: http://www.bmw-werk-muenchen.de/lowband/com/en/index.html
That's all that comes to my mind right now.. if there's anything else I'll think of until Friday, I'll let you know! :)
Posted by larryhoover on July 24, 2011, at 17:56:30
In reply to Re: Europe » larryhoover, posted by europerep on July 24, 2011, at 10:44:17
Thank you very much for those ideas.
Lar
Posted by Phillipa on July 24, 2011, at 19:22:20
In reply to Re: Europe » europerep, posted by larryhoover on July 24, 2011, at 17:56:30
Belgium is a hop skip and a jump to the Netherlands as that was the route took. A few hours at most. The Delft factory is there and lots of seaport cities with people dressed in old world attire living the life as was with wooden shoes and all. Windmills abound. Switzerland still my favorite with day trips from Lake Geneva area to the resort spots of hour or so each way. Austria was before Switzerland for me And Freuds house is there. Lots of Castles all over Europe. Phillipa
Posted by larryhoover on August 7, 2011, at 4:05:10
In reply to Re: Europe » larryhoover, posted by Phillipa on July 24, 2011, at 19:22:20
Well, Roma was simply marvellous, but extremely hot. Thankfully, there are public waterfountains scattered throughout the city. We stayed in a hotel in a residential area, so we got to sample the local food at non-tourist prices.
The Vatican City was so beautiful, we went twice. Took a bus tour the first day, to get our bearings, and then used public transit to get around to all the amazing sites over the next three days.
Flew in to Prague yesterday afternoon. Lovely city. Great breakfast at the hotel, too (included). Off to see the castle....
Lar
Posted by larryhoover on September 8, 2011, at 18:35:13
In reply to Re: Europe, posted by larryhoover on August 7, 2011, at 4:05:10
Finally got home last night. Jet lagged as anything, but home. Feels surreal. I could travel forever.
Lar
Posted by Phillipa on September 8, 2011, at 21:12:54
In reply to Re: Europe, posted by larryhoover on September 8, 2011, at 18:35:13
Lar you have gone for months. What countries did you visit and tell about the trip. Phillipa
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