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Posted by fayeroe on June 27, 2008, at 16:23:21
And it's due to the PTSD. They take no responsibility for the pain that the soldiers are experiencing upon their return home. They actually had him scheduled for a fall deployment.
PTSD is now "battlefield fatigue"....We're screwed. He needs alot of medical intervention (talking of ending it all), can't sleep, can't control anger and dreams endlessly about what happened in Iraq.
We're all very depressed
Posted by caraher on June 28, 2008, at 4:35:51
In reply to Son-in Law being medically discharged from army, posted by fayeroe on June 27, 2008, at 16:23:21
> And it's due to the PTSD. They take no responsibility for the pain that the soldiers are experiencing upon their return home. They actually had him scheduled for a fall deployment.
> PTSD is now "battlefield fatigue"....What boggles my mind is that studies performed by the US military indicate that extended periods of combat will cause psychological casualties among virtually every person exposed. A few weeks followed by a chance to recover works. But even a few months pretty much guarantees lasting scars.
David Grossman, who has extensively studied the psychology of killing, observes that
"Swank and Marchand's World War II study of US Army combatants on the beaches of Normandy found that after 60 days of continuous combat, 98% of the surviving soldiers had become psychiatric casualties. And the remaining 2% were identified as "aggressive psychopathic personalities." Thus it is not too far from the mark to observe that there is something about continuous, inescapable combat which will drive 98% of all men insane, and the other 2% were crazy when they got there."
(from http://www.killology.com/print/print_psychological.htm )
Posted by seldomseen on June 28, 2008, at 6:41:59
In reply to Son-in Law being medically discharged from army, posted by fayeroe on June 27, 2008, at 16:23:21
In veterans of the great wars they called it shell shock.
The Vietnam war was the first combat experience where people began to take post combat PTSD seriously.
Now I know this can be hit or miss, but the veteran's administration hospital where I live is actually quite good. They have veteran specific therapies that are quite effective and a team of *privately* trained psychologists to help returning veterans.
Of course I live right next to a huge military base AND a major medical center.
Please babblemail me and I can give you some more info.
Seldom
Posted by fayeroe on June 28, 2008, at 11:47:44
In reply to Re: Son-in Law being medically discharged from army » fayeroe, posted by seldomseen on June 28, 2008, at 6:41:59
Posted by Phillipa on June 28, 2008, at 12:51:20
In reply to Re: Son-in Law being medically discharged from army » fayeroe, posted by seldomseen on June 28, 2008, at 6:41:59
Hey my Son who was blinded in Desert Storm is now working with the VA in Washington has an office in Dc. Pat right now Merck is working very fast and hard for a drug expressly for PTSD. Something else is a lot of military are losing their eyesight traumatic brain injury. They think the loud explosions are loosening the retinas and when released go home bend over and it detaches and they are blind. It's getting horrible. But worse yet is that with the economy and election doesn't seem like any time soon troops will come home and of course doesn't matter who the new President is Congress makes the final decision learned that last night from neighbors as I try and avoid politics. Phillipa
Posted by fayeroe on June 30, 2008, at 17:39:10
In reply to Re: Son-in Law being medically discharged from army, posted by Phillipa on June 28, 2008, at 12:51:20
Posted by Phillipa on June 30, 2008, at 21:53:28
In reply to This weekend was one of his worst.....:-( (nm) » Phillipa, posted by fayeroe on June 30, 2008, at 17:39:10
I'm really sorry. Hope in time it gets better. Lovse Phillipa
Posted by caraher on June 30, 2008, at 22:41:42
In reply to Re: Son-in Law being medically discharged from army, posted by Phillipa on June 28, 2008, at 12:51:20
> doesn't matter who the new President is Congress makes the final decision learned that last night from neighbors as I try and avoid politics.
Legally Congress and not the President has the sole authority to declare war. But Congress has not issued declaration of war since 1941. In practice, Congress has repeatedly deferred to the President, usually by passing resolutions essentially leaving it to the judgment of the President.
Since going to an all-volunteer military, only a small fraction of American families bear the burden of war. Student protesters in the 1960s faced a draft; today's youth face only an "economic draft." All of these factors seem to make the use of force a more attractive option than it might be otherwise.
At this stage the main thing Congress could consider would be to use their authority to approve budgets to force changes in policy. The "power of the purse" is rather difficult to use. As long as there are soldiers in harm's way it's politically untenable, as nobody in Congress, regardless of their stand on the war(s), is willing to be accused as failing to "support our troops" by refusing to fund budget requests to continue operations.
I wish you and your son and son-in-law the best. May the United States be worthy of their sacrifices - and yours.
Posted by fayeroe on July 1, 2008, at 0:07:20
In reply to Re: Congress, the President and war, posted by caraher on June 30, 2008, at 22:41:42
Thank you so very much. Times are rough for all and I know that there are soldier's and families going through so much now. I can hardly stand to read the newspapers anymore.
I was recently told, at work, that anyone who is in the military knew that they would someday go to war and possibly be killed. And that I need to suck it up and go with it.
It is very difficult to deal with those people who feel that way. They have no idea the hell that war causes.
Thanks, Caraher.....Pat
Posted by Sigismund on July 1, 2008, at 15:54:16
In reply to Re: Congress, the President and war » caraher, posted by fayeroe on July 1, 2008, at 0:07:20
This congress (not to speak of the Administration!!) has the lowest proportion of former servicemen of any congress since WWII.
Posted by Kath on July 8, 2008, at 19:23:40
In reply to Son-in Law being medically discharged from army, posted by fayeroe on June 27, 2008, at 16:23:21
Hi,
I want to send you this link.
This is an alternative method that has helped me alot & if you click on "Dick Merill"'s little video, he tells how he had been trapped in a helicopter crash in Viet Naam. Had almost died; had been traumatized for half his life with the memories of it.
After using this method he was freed from the emotional trauma.
I know this sounds hokey. But I do hope you will look at the video. Please feel free to babblemail me & ask any questions. I've used TAT (as it's called) for lots of things...including the trauma of my mother's breast cancer & subsequent death, decades ago.
I am so sorry this has happened. It is truly shameful that people who have served their country are being treated this way.
I send my supportive thoughts.
much love, Kath
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